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Best protein powders for muscle gain?

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Paul Vaughn71 Paul Vaughn71 Member
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#21 ·
placidranger said:You're right that the ingredient lists aren't identical, but they function the same way. I honestly don't think a beginner would notice any difference whether they grab a pre-made gainer or just DIY their own mix of sugar and protein...

I wasn't suggesting the compositions were identical. Once you look at the math—seeing a gainer sitting at roughly 15g of protein per 100g, compared to Whey hitting around 80g per 100g (with a much better profile, too)... it's pretty obvious why people go for the Whey. Even for beginners, there's a massive gap. Gainers are usually just overloaded with carbs and lacking enough protein, plus they're overpriced for what you actually get. A newbie is going to feel the difference, both in their body fat levels and their bank account...
Scott Ortiz3 Scott Ortiz3 Member
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#22 ·
Alright, then we are finally on the same page. 😁
Angela Lopez71 Angela Lopez71 Newcomer
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#23 ·
Can anyone point me toward an online shop here in the US where I can order some proteins and supplements?

That's really all I'm looking for...
Alex Long8 Alex Long8 Member
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#24 ·
Just order them from the site where you found them. Plenty of people around here do it, and there’s even a guide at the top explaining how to handle shipping to the US
Angela Lopez71 Angela Lopez71 Newcomer
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#25 ·
I used to pay full price for this stuff, and now they’ve marked it down... but even adding another nine bucks won't cut it for me.
I have this vague memory of some domestic site where we could grab these products, but I just can't track it down anywhere.

ps. cool username
placidranger placidranger Regular
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#26 ·
Paul Vaughn71 said:I didn't realize their ingredients were identical.

😕
I know exactly what you meant.
Look at the macros—it’s a joke. You’re looking at maybe 15g of protein per 100g in a typical mass gainer, whereas a decent whey isolate hits closer to 80g—and with a much better amino acid profile, too. It’s obvious why anyone worth their salt sticks to whey. Even for beginners, the math doesn't add up. These gainers are just overpriced buckets of carbs with barely any protein to back them up. If you're just starting out, you'll feel the difference—not just in your wallet, but in how quickly that extra fat starts stacking on. Stick to the basics.

You said it yourself—a gainer is just overpriced whey mixed with glucose.
I agree.

If you want to cut costs even further—just go with whey and saccharin. Simple as that.

It’ll yield the exact same results—especially if you're just starting out. Most gainers are packed with filler ingredients like glutamine, added BCAAs, or EFAs that honestly don't do much for you. And don't even get me started on the maltodextrin—or any of those glucose derivatives they shove in there. It's mostly just empty fluff.
Jacob Carter6 Jacob Carter6 Newcomer
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#27 ·
Paul Vaughn71 said:Oh my God... 🙄

If you pack on 5 pounds of muscle thanks to all that meat protein, are you really going to just wither away the second you stop eating it? Use your head here. Don't just swallow the prejudices people try to feed you.

Look, you aren't going to pack on fat just from drinking whey—not unless you’re slamming shakes all day long. Real weight gain comes from heavy, calorie-dense meals. On the flip side, if you aren't eating right or hitting the gym, you're going to lose weight. The situation is a bit different for pro bodybuilders compared to, say, Olympic weightlifters. Because their type of hypertrophy works differently, they tend to drop muscle mass relatively quickly when they aren't careful. But honestly? If that's what you're worried about, don't be. You aren't anywhere near the level of a pro bodybuilder, so there's really nothing to fear. If you want peace of mind, just stick strictly to strength training. That’s going to trigger muscle hypertrophy—actual muscle growth—regardless.

I already had some inkling about this stuff, but I really want to clear up any lingering doubts once and for all. It’s not like I’m trying to become a dedicated bodybuilding fanatic or anything; I train UFC, and honestly, just for the sake of my performance in the sport, I really need to pack on a few pounds. 🙂

Anonymous said:Look, first things first: get your diet and training schedule dialed in. That’s the foundation of everything. As far as supplements go, you could look into whey protein and glucose, though they aren't strictly mandatory. You should also grab some Vitamin C, a good multivitamin, and Omega-3s. Here’s the deal with the whey: if you just treat it like a regular meal, you’re going to pack on fat. It spikes your insulin, which can end up shuttling all those nutrients straight to your fat cells instead of your muscles. But, if you time it right—like having it as your first meal of the day or sipping it during your workout—you don't have to worry about gaining fat. In fact, you'll be doing your body a massive favor. And don't listen to the myths. If you stop taking whey but keep training hard and eating right, you won't suddenly wither away or "flush" all your gains down the drain. The only way you're going to lose muscle and gain fat is if you quit training and start eating like most people do. Period.

Now I’m getting a little confused here... Does gaining mass actually depend on the timing—like, what specific time of day I’m hitting my whey protein? Or were you saying I should focus on avoiding catabolism instead?
All in all, thank you. This really helped me out a ton.

Scott Ortiz3 said:Take a look at the last few pages of this thread. Let me be clear: whey protein isn't some magic potion that’s going to magically add 5kg of muscle to your frame overnight. You build mass through consistent, proper nutrition combined with solid training—just like my predecessors here have already pointed out. Don't pin all your hopes on whey. That said, whey paired with glucose is an absolute powerhouse for PWM. It provides all those essential amino acids you'd normally get from whole foods, but with a massive advantage: it absorbs incredibly fast. That's the real strength of whey protein; it replenishes exactly what your body burns through during a workout. Now, if you are dead set on using supplements specifically designed for bulking up, then you should probably look into a dedicated mass gainer. Grab something like Optimum Nutrition Serious Mass, or whatever else fits your needs. 👍

I’m fully aware that gaining weight is 95% about what you eat—if not more. Honestly, I burn through calories way faster than your average gym rat because my training involves sparring, endurance work, and raw strength drills. That’s why I usually stick to whey or maybe some PWM. To be truthful, I haven't given much thought to mass gainers yet; I'll start with this and see how my body responds. I just really don't want to end up in a situation where I'm cursing my life choices for ever starting this 😁
Linda Rogers88 Linda Rogers88 Newcomer
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#28 ·
What’s the deal with mixing different protein types—like throwing milk protein in with your whey—instead of just sticking to pure whey? Is it actually true that those blends absorb slower and suck for post-workout recovery?
Scott Ortiz3 Scott Ortiz3 Member
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#29 ·
Linda Rogers88 said:What’s the consensus on blending different protein types—like mixing whey with milk proteins—versus sticking to pure whey isolate? Is it actually true that these blends absorb slower, making them less effective for post-workout recovery?

You've been issued a yellow card for using all caps. 😁

Regarding that protein blend question: it’s basic logic. If you mix fast-acting whey with slow-digesting proteins, you're effectively slowing down the entire absorption process. It's like adding heavy traffic to a highway; everything moves slower. If the goal is immediate uptake, a blend just drags out the timeline. 🤷
Jonathan Miller7 Jonathan Miller7 NewcomerOP
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#30 ·
Linda Rogers88 said:What do you guys think about blending different types of protein—like mixing whey with milk proteins—compared to just using pure whey? Is it actually true that those blends absorb slower and aren't as good for recovery right after a workout?

Yeah, they’ll absorb slower, obviously. And as for the whole "recovery" thing? Give me a break. You’re still going to recover even if you don't shove a shake down your throat the second you drop the weights. It's really not that deep.
wiredpilot30 wiredpilot30 Member
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#31 ·
Casein DOESN'T actually slow down whey. It’s not like we’re talking about a crowded nightclub where some big guy blocks the door just to stop a sprinter from getting inside, 😬

As for recovery... honestly, I think "recovery" is a pretty silly term. It always makes me think of some grueling struggle, but I don't view training as some kind of torture or a massive burden 😛

And let's be real, PWM is way overrated. People go way too overboard with it. You aren't going to wake up with depleted muscles the next day if you skip a heavy dose of PWM, and you certainly aren't going to start catabolizing overnight 😉

PWM is really just there to speed up the muscle "recovery" process, rather than being the thing that actually kicks it off
Matthew Richardson81 Matthew Richardson81 Member
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#32 ·
wiredpilot30 said:Casein doesn't SLOW DOWN whey. It’s not like we're trying to walk into a nightclub and some slow, chunky dude is blocking a sprinter from getting through the door, right? 😬

And "recovery"... man, I hate that word. It sounds so much like suffering. To me, working out isn't some grueling torture session or a massive stress fest. 😛

Honestly, PWM is totally overrated. People go way too hard on it... you aren't going to wake up with flat muscles the next day just because you skipped your heavy dose of PWM, and you aren't suddenly going to hit catabolism either. 😉

PWM is really just there to speed up the whole muscle "recovery" process, it doesn't actually kickstart it.

I don't know about you guys, but today I finally got back at it after an 8-day break. Hit squats, military press, and rows—all 5x5. Since I hadn't touched a barbell in a week, my legs were literally shaking like crazy after those squats. It was a struggle to finish the set! Now, six hours later, I can already feel the soreness creeping in. Tomorrow morning is going to be brutal. I'm definitely going to need some serious recovery after this one.
Just a little side note, but that nightclub analogy is spot on. Over here in the States, people are actually talking about widening all the hallway exits because Americans have gotten even bigger over the last few years. I've even heard stories about folks getting stuck in hallways because some huge guy collapsed and blocked the path, making it impossible for anyone else to get through.
wiredpilot30 wiredpilot30 Member
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#33 ·
Matthew Richardson81 said:I don't know, man. After taking eight days off from the gym, I went back today to knock out some squats, military presses, and rows—all on a 5x5 program. Since I hadn't lifted all week, my legs started shaking like crazy right after the squats, and finishing the session was a total struggle. It’s been six hours now, and I can already feel that soreness creeping in. Tomorrow morning is going to be brutal. I'm definitely going to need some serious recovery time after this.
Just a quick tangent, but this whole thing about widening disc spaces is actually a smart move. Here in the States, there's even talk about expanding the standard width of hallways because Americans have put on quite a few pounds over the last few years. I've even heard a couple of stories about people getting stuck in corridors because some huge guy collapsed in the way and blocked the path.

Look, the soreness is coming regardless of whether you take whey or not. 😉

As for Americans, it's a mixed bag... they've even started widening seats in arenas and stadiums to accommodate everyone. Personally, I tend to think Americans aren't significantly larger than people in the rest of the world, but hey... that's just my two cents. 🙂
Paul Vaughn71 Paul Vaughn71 Member
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#34 ·
Jacob Carter6 said:I already had a hunch about some of this, but I really want to clear up any lingering doubts. I’m not exactly looking to become a hardcore bodybuilding fanatic or anything... I just train UFC, and honestly, just for the sake of the sport, I need to pack on a few pounds... 🙂

If I were in your shoes, I’d stick strictly to strength and explosive training. You'll pick up the mass from those movements anyway... provided you're actually eating enough to back it up.

You can honestly drink whey mixed with some glucose after every single workout... works like a charm. 😉
A Anonymous Veteran
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#35 ·
@ Jacob Carter6 Just wanted to jump in and correct one thing here... you shouldn't be treating a shake of whey and glucose like a standard meal. That specific combo is really meant for right after your workout. If you want to use whey as a meal replacement—like when you're stuck at the office or running between classes and can't carry a Tupperware container—mix it with some slower-digesting carbs or healthy fats instead. PWM is a perfect example of why understanding nutrient timing matters.
At the end of the day, slamming whey at a specific time isn't what determines how much mass you put on; it’s your overall diet, your training intensity, and your sheer grit. Supplements are just there to help you bridge the gaps.
James Cruz4 James Cruz4 Newcomer
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#36 ·
Just a quick question from the ladies' side of things 😍
I've been sticking to just Optimum Nutrition Elite Whey, specifically the chocolate flavor, right after my workouts😬
To be honest, I'm getting a little tired of the taste... does anyone know of a better one out there? Also, I was wondering, why don't they ever make those little sample pouches for testing them out?😍
placidranger placidranger Regular
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#37 ·
Amy Morris36 said:The chocolate flavor 😬
is getting old... any better options out there?

Nope. It’s easily the best one.
wearyotter81 wearyotter81 Member
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#38 ·
Amy Morris36 said:Quick question from the ladies side of things😍
I've been sticking to nothing but Optimum Nutrition Elite Whey right after my workouts... specifically the chocolate flavor.😬
But honestly, I'm getting so tired of this taste... is there anything better out there? And seriously, why don't they ever sell those little sample packets?😍

Oh, believe me, there are plenty! 🙏
Try Muscle Milk Banana😍
Paul Vaughn71 Paul Vaughn71 Member
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#39 ·
placidranger said:Nope. It’s easily the best flavor out there.

😁

I'm with you on that. Honestly, I haven't found anything better...
And I'm not even much of a chocolate person. 😳
Angela Cox4 Angela Cox4 Active Member
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#40 ·
Amy Morris36 said:quick question from the ladies side of things😍
I’ve just been sticking to Optimum Nutrition Elite Whey right after my workouts... specifically the chocolate flavor😬
but honestly, I am so over this taste... is there anything actually good out there? And seriously, why don't they sell those little sample packets?😍

Look, I wouldn't be the guy to judge your taste buds, but when it comes to timing—personally, I think you're better off slamming that stuff before you even hit the gym. It just makes sense to have those nutrients already circulating in your system right when your body starts screaming for them, rather than making it wait until you're finished...

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