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2017 NASCAR Season

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northerncobra31 northerncobra31 Active Member
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#381 ·
Now I see how many people jumped ship after testing and actually voted for Sebastian Vettel in the poll.
Kyle Edwards5 Kyle Edwards5 Active Member
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joined Apr 2020
#382 ·
I didn't cast my vote just to participate in some little test; I did it out of pure, unadulterated hope and a desperate sense of optimism that someone might actually manage to take down Mercedes...
Kyle Edwards5 Kyle Edwards5 Active Member
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#383 ·
Kyle Edwards5 said:Great idea! I'll get on this today...

Australian Grand Prix

graniteharbor502 said:image
A total of 19 forum members participated in our recent poll,
The average AFL rating came out to be: 3.0 (out of 6)
Or, if one prefers a more descriptive summary: it was a decent race.

Bahrain Grand Prix

fortinbras said:image
43 forum members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Bahrain Grand Prix: 3.95
In plain terms: a very good race.

China Grand Prix

fortinbras said:image
33 forum members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the China Grand Prix: 3.45
In plain terms: a decent race.

Russian Grand Prix

fortinbras said:image
28 forum members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Russian Grand Prix: 1.82
In plain terms: a mediocre race.

Spanish Grand Prix

fortinbras said:image
22 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Spanish Grand Prix: 3.91
In short: a very good race.

Monaco

fortinbras said:image
12 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Monaco Grand Prix: 2.25
In short: a mediocre race.

Canada

fortinbras said:image
15 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Canadian Grand Prix: 3.27
In short: a good race.

Azerbaijan

fortinbras said:image
37 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Azerbaijan Grand Prix: 4.81
In short: an excellent race.

Austria

fortinbras said:image
A total of 22 forum members weighed in on the poll.
The average rating for the Austrian Grand Prix: 2.32
To put it bluntly: a mediocre race at best.
Kyle Edwards5 Kyle Edwards5 Active Member
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#384 ·
Great Britain

fortinbras said:image
12 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the British Grand Prix: 2.33
In plain terms: a mediocre race.

Canada

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17 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Canadian Grand Prix: 2.76 (out of 6)
Or more simply: a decent race.

Belgium

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19 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Belgian Grand Prix: 2.31 (out of 6)
Or more simply: a mediocre race.

Polls for the USA Grand Prix, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, and Italy are pointless; we moderators posted them way too late, so we’ve only got one vote on each right now. My bad. 😁

Mexican Grand Prix

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22 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Mexican Grand Prix: 2.54 (out of 6)
Or more simply: a decent race.

Brazilian Grand Prix

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20 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Brazilian Grand Prix: 2.95 (out of 6)
Or more simply: a decent race.

Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

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11 members voted in the poll.
The average rating for the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix: 1.09 (out of 6)
Or more simply: a boring race.
Kyle Edwards5 Kyle Edwards5 Active Member
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#385 ·
Here’s the race ranking according to the forum. 👍

1. Azerbaijan 4.81
2. Bahrain 3.95
3. Spanish Grand Prix 3.91
4. China Grand Prix 3.45
5. Canadian Grand Prix 3.27
6. Australian Grand Prix 3.0
7. Brazil 2.95
8. Canadian Grand Prix 2.76
9. Mexico 2.54
10. Great Britain 2.33
11. Austrian Grand Prix 2.32
12. Belgian Grand Prix 2.31
13. Monaco Grand Prix 2.25
14. Russian Grand Prix 1.82
15. Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 1.09
Kyle Edwards5 Kyle Edwards5 Active Member
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joined Apr 2020
#386 ·
Best of team radio 2017 - Part 1. Naturally, Kimi is just cruising toward a smooth win here...
For me, nothing beats the Russian Grand Prix! 😁
Kyle Edwards5 Kyle Edwards5 Active Member
71 messages
joined Apr 2020
#387 ·
Top tier team radio moments from 2017 - Part 2.
👍
stormytiger4 stormytiger4 Active Member
148 messages
joined Feb 2020
#388 ·
Man, Kimi wants to move that concrete block just like master Yoda would. 🙏
Linda Peterson43 Linda Peterson43 Active Member
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joined Mar 2018
#389 ·
I was watching the second episode of the Grand tour last night, and Jeremy Clarkson mentions that Kimi Räikkönen broke some kind of unusual record this season at the Mexican Grand Prix... 🙂
Apparently, he held onto his champagne bottle during the podium ceremony longer than anyone else, sipping from it for almost two full minutes... 🙂

Then they joked that the guy was probably just thirsty because "he did not have a drink for 2 hours"... 🙂
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#390 ·
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns37989.html

According to this, here’s the horsepower breakdown for 2017:
Mercedes - 949 hp
Ferrari - 934 hp ( -15 hp)
Renault - 907 hp ( -41 hp behind the Mecca and - 27 hp behind Ferrari)
Honda - 860 hp (in a massive hole...)

Could actually be spot on...
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#391 ·
stormybadger8 said:http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns37989.html

According to this, here’s the horsepower breakdown for 2017:
Mercedes - 949 hp
Ferrari - 934 hp ( -15 hp)
Renault - 907 hp ( -41 hp behind the Mecca and - 27 hp behind Ferrari)
Honda - 860 hp (in a massive hole...)

Could actually be spot on...


Why don't I see any clear dominance from the Mercedes engine here?

Are these rough estimates including or excluding oil burning?

The data doesn't seem quite right to me either; both Ferrari and Mercedes were blathering about figures near 1000 hp last year, weren't they?

My prediction for engine power in 2018—specifically the Mercedes vs Ferrari ratio—is that it will mirror last year's table perfectly. In other words: equal!
Kyle Edwards5 Kyle Edwards5 Active Member
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#392 ·
Mercedes' engine also holds a massive edge when it comes to fuel efficiency, which is honestly just as critical a factor during a race...
Linda Peterson43 Linda Peterson43 Active Member
100 messages
joined Mar 2018
#393 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Why don't I see any clear dominance from the Mercedes engine here?

Are these rough estimates including or excluding oil burning?

The data doesn't seem quite right to me either; both Ferrari and Mercedes were blathering about figures near 1000 hp last year, weren't they?

My prediction for engine power in 2018—specifically the Mercedes vs Ferrari ratio—is that it will mirror last year's table perfectly. In other words: equal!

Well, now, people have been taking measurements, but he knows better—he just knows, in that certain way... 🙂

Take a look at the article in the link; it really covers everything... 🙂
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#394 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Why don't I see any clear dominance from the Mercedes engine here?

Are these rough estimates including or excluding oil burning?

The data doesn't seem quite right to me either; both Ferrari and Mercedes were blathering about figures near 1000 hp last year, weren't they?

My prediction for engine power in 2018—specifically the Mercedes vs Ferrari ratio—is that it will mirror last year's table perfectly. In other words: equal!

Maybe that's why you've seen Ferrari outperforming Mercedes in almost every race lately, while Red Bull is right up there with them, posing a serious threat to the whole setup.
Oh, look, it's Toto Wolff. I’m terrified. Seriously, I am very afraid! style...🙂😁

mellowtiger83 said:Why don't I see any clear dominance from the Mercedes engine here?

Are these rough estimates including or excluding oil burning?

The data doesn't seem quite right to me either; both Ferrari and Mercedes were blathering about figures near 1000 hp last year, weren't they?

My prediction for engine power in 2018—specifically the Mercedes vs Ferrari ratio—is that it will mirror last year's table perfectly. In other words: equal!

949 = 934 🤔 Is this some kind of new Wolff math or what?

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