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Anyone still running Windows 7?

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Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1841 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:So, you pop in the Windows 7 DVD, try to boot the system directly from the disc—after adjusting your BIOS settings accordingly—and absolutely nothing happens?

Please take a moment to look over this: Recovering the Vista or Windows 7 Bootloader from the DVD


I am going to attempt to dive into that guide you recommended later this afternoon; perhaps I can actually make some sense of it, though my schedule is quite packed at the moment. Just tell me one thing: in your estimation, is this a major technical hurdle that would require a professional technician, or is it merely a minor hiccup that could be cleared up in five minutes flat? My primary concern is the cost; I really cannot afford to drop a couple hundred dollars on a repair shop right now because things are already looking pretty tight financially. For context, my Windows 7 is an original OEM version. When I try to run the installation on my desktop computer, it tells me the hardware configuration doesn't meet the necessary requirements (specifically mentioning the 512 MB of RAM and such).
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#1842 ·
Lawrence Doyle7 said:I'll try to dig into that text you recommended this afternoon—maybe I'll actually wrap my head around it—but I'm swamped right now. Just tell me: do you think this is some major headache for a pro technician, or just a quick fix they can knock out in 5 minutes? My concern is that I can't afford to drop a few hundred bucks on repairs right now; money is tight as it is. For what it's worth, the Windows 7 is an original OEM version. On my desktop, it offers installation, but the hardware doesn't meet the requirements (512 MB RAM, etc.).

I'd attempt to fix this without a tech, but it won't be a 5-minute job. It'll take more effort than that. 🙄

Are we talking about that eMachines E640 running Windows 7 that died after two days? Are you trying to install a new week's OS on it? 🤔

Unless you're planning to upgrade the desktop with more RAM, don't even bother attempting the installation. (link)
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1843 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:I would certainly attempt to tackle this issue without calling in a technician, though I suspect it won't be a mere five-minute fix; it will likely require a bit more elbow grease and patience. 🙄

Are we talking about that specific eMachines E640 running Windows 7 that kept crashing after just two days? Are you planning to try installing a new week's worth of updates on it? 🤔

Unless your intention is to boost a desktop PC with extra RAM, I would strongly advise against diving into an installation like this. (link)


Yes, I am going to give it a shot—likely over the weekend, as things are quite hectic right now... I have some translating work to wrap up as well... but it is definitely a pursuit worth trying...

Yes, that is indeed the E640 that has been giving me such a headache..

Oh, I have absolutely no intention of installing anything on my desktop; I wouldn't dream of breaking that machine when it's working perfectly fine just the way it is...

Do you suspect there might be a much larger underlying issue with the E640?
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#1844 ·
Lawrence Doyle7 said:Yeah, I'll give it a shot, maybe over the weekend. I'm swamped right now... got some translating to get through... but it's worth a try...

Right, that's the exact E640 that's giving me grief..

I'm definitely not installing anything on my desktop. I don't need to crash that one too; it works perfectly fine as it is...

Do you think there's a deeper issue with the E640?

The issue is clearly with the Windows Boot Manager, just like you mentioned earlier.

And at the top of the page I linked you to, it explicitly states in bold:
"Use this section only if you cannot boot into any version of Microsoft Windows. If you can boot into Windows, we highly recommend..."

And you can't even boot Windows from the DVD or run a Repair, right? 🙄
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1845 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:The issue clearly resides within the Windows boot Manager, just as you pointed out earlier.

It’s right there at the top of the page I linked you to, highlighted in bold:
"Use this section only if you cannot boot into any version of Microsoft Windows. If you can boot into Windows, we highly recommend..."

And honestly, you aren't even able to boot into Windows using the DVD, nor can you run a repair, right? 🙄

Precisely! That's the heart of it—no matter what route I attempt to take, I just keep getting looped back to those same pre-set suggestions. I am still able to access the BIOS by tapping F2, and I can get into that other menu via the Del key which offers some more advanced, albeit rather complex-looking, configurations; I can't recall all the specifics offhand, but I can power up the laptop and check the details later...

I should be able to dive into fixing this pretty soon; I just need to wrap things up with an online poker tournament I'm playing, which shouldn't take much longer, I think...
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1846 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:It appears quite evident that the crux of the matter resides within the Windows boot Manager, just as you so aptly pointed out above.

At the very top of the webpage—the one I provided you with the link to—there is some text displayed in bold:
Please utilize this specific area for your input! Now, I must insist that you only attempt this particular course of action if you find yourself in the unfortunate position of being completely unable to boot into any version of Microsoft Windows whatsoever.If you find yourself in a position where you can actually successfully boot into Windows, I would go so far as to say that our most fervent recommendation is to...

It seems to me that you find yourself in quite a predicament, doesn't it? It appears as though you are currently unable to successfully boot into Windows using a DVD, nor can you manage to run any of the necessary repair functions to mend the system. Am I reading the situation correctly? 🙄


From what I can gather, my best course of action would be to download the Recovery Disc directly from the website and move it over to my desktop. However, I’ve hit a bit of a snag: I can't actually open the file because it seems to be hardcoded to launch through Internet Explorer. To make matters worse, I’m currently locked out of Internet Explorer entirely because I set a password for it that has since slipped my mind! I almost exclusively use Opera for my browsing, so this is quite a predicament. If my understanding of the process is correct, I am supposed to burn the contents of that recovery disc onto a physical CD and then slot that disc into my E 640 drive. But, as it stands, I'm stuck in a bit of a digital stalemate—I can't access the files due to the Internet Explorer issue, and I haven't quite figured out how to reconfigure my settings so that the file opens seamlessly in Opera instead.

I think I’ll just leave things exactly as they are for now—honestly, what else can I really do? Once I find myself with a little extra breathing room in my budget, I’ll head over to the shop to get a proper quote for the repairs and a fresh installation. If the total comes out to a reasonable number, then I'll gladly settle the bill, but if it ends up being some astronomical figure... well, I haven't quite decided on my next move yet.
crimsonpuma92 crimsonpuma92 Member
25 messages
joined Jun 2010
#1847 ·
Taylor Morales31 said:I'm not entirely sure how you'd even go about installing a test version of Windows 7. Since you mentioned both system partitions are occupied, I guess there's no way to create an E drive to install it on for testing. You could try a fresh install just to see if Aero works there; that would rule out any software issues within Windows. If Aero still doesn't show up after a clean install, then I suspect it might be a hardware problem. You might have to take the risk of reinstalling Windows 7 just to verify if the issue lies with the OS or the graphics card. I don't think there's any other way, unless someone has a more clever suggestion—though I'm certainly not claiming this is the smartest approach. 👍

So, I reset the computer and booted it up in Safe Mode. From there, I just shut it down, and when I turned it back on, Aero was working and the taskbar looked normal again. However, that annoying error message is still popping up. I went into the services menu and everything seemed to be set correctly, so it seems to be running fine for now, but I honestly doubt it'll stay this way the next time I boot it up.
vividwolf1 vividwolf1 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2010
#1848 ·
So, here’s the situation: I’ve got a laptop running Windows 7—which, mind you, isn't the OS that originally shipped with the machine—and I’m currently stuck without the installation disc. I was wondering if there's still a way to trigger a fresh installation and wipe the C: drive using some specific key combination during the boot sequence. Since these aren't the factory-original Windows files that came pre-installed, I'm questioning whether they even exist on a hidden recovery partition anymore. If that's a dead end, is there any other viable method to perform a reinstall without having a physical CD on hand?
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#1849 ·
Lawrence Doyle7 said:From what I can gather, I’m supposed to download the Recovery Disc from the site, move it to my desktop, but then I can't actually open it because it's tied to Internet Explorer. And I can't even get into Internet Explorer because I reset my password once and lost access. I usually just use Opera anyway. Basically, if I understand correctly, I need to burn the contents of that recovery disc onto a CD and pop it into the E 640, but... I'm stuck because of this Internet Explorer mess, and I have no clue how to set it up to open with Opera instead...

I'll just leave it be; there isn't much else I can do. Once I have a few extra bucks in my pocket, I'll take it in to get an estimate for the repair and installation. If the quote is reasonable, I'll pay it. If not... who knows...

That's right. It's a Windows 7 Recovery Disc (either 32-bit or 64-bit) provided as a .torrent file that you open using some kind of torrent client. The actual ISO file that the program downloads is about 165MB and has absolutely nothing to do with Internet Explorer; I downloaded it myself today using Firefox. 😉
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1850 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:That’s precisely right! You have the Windows 7 Recovery Disc (whether you need the 32-bit or 64-bit version) provided as a .torrent file, which you then open using some sort of torrent client. The actual ISO file that the software downloads is only about 165MB, and it doesn't have any dependency on IE at all—in fact, I just finished downloading mine using Firefox earlier today. 😉


I went ahead and grabbed this one and got it set up: torrent Stable (2.0.4). However, I am standing here wondering what the next move in this chess game is, because I'll admit, I have absolutely zero experience working with torrents. Now that I look closer, I see the program has already flagged the file (that recovery disc) and is slowly pulling the data down. My assumption is that once the download wraps up, I'll need to burn that image onto a blank CD and then pop that disc into my laptop, all in the hopes that it finally fixes everything...
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#1851 ·
Lawrence Doyle7 said:I downloaded this and installed:BitTorrent (2.0.4). But now what? I have no idea how to proceed; I've never actually used a torrent before. It looks like it's already flagged it (that recovery file) and is downloading slowly. I assume once it's done, I'll need to burn it to a CD, pop that into my laptop, and hope for the best...

If you Google that bolded term, the first link gives you exactly what I sent you in my last post: µTorrent - a (very) tiny BitTorrent client

Look, if the download started in your software, just let it finish.

The program is grabbing an ISO which you can later write to a disc using something like Nero Burning ROM (don't let the "XP" in the name trip you up; it works fine all the way up to Windows 7, both 32-bit and 64-bit).
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1852 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:That is exactly right! You would take that Windows 7 Recovery Disc—whether you're working with the 32-bit or the 64-bit version—and grab it as a BitTorrent file, which you then simply open using something like Firefox. If you want to get this sorted out, your best bet is to simply grab a reliable BitTorrent client to handle the heavy lifting!The ISO file that particular program is downloading is only about 165MB, and honestly, it has absolutely nothing to do with Internet Explorer; I actually just finished grabbing it myself using Firefox earlier today! 😉

Noah Sanchez39

I find myself at a complete standstill regarding my next move; I am honestly quite stumped as to how I should go about burning this onto a CD, though I suspect that is precisely the course of action I ought to take. I am operating under the assumption that you are quite well-versed in these matters and might be able to guide me through the process!
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1853 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:The software downloads an ISO file, which you can then burn onto a CD using a tool like, say, Nero Burning ROM (and don't let the "XP" part throw you off—it works perfectly fine all the way up to Windows 7, whether you're running a 32-bit or 64-bit system)

I went ahead and grabbed that myself; it’s about 4.7 MB, so I’m going to jump right in and get it installed now.
placidcobra49 placidcobra49 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2009
#1854 ·
You can probably restore and install the original Windows that came with the laptop, provided you haven't wiped the recovery partition. I guess the specific key combo to trigger recovery depends on which laptop model you're using.
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#1855 ·
Lawrence Doyle7 said:Noah Sanchez39...

I'm honestly stuck on what the next move is here. I need to burn this to a CD, right? I assume that's the way to go. You probably know your way around this stuff...

Once you've burned the ISO to a CD and booted up using it, just follow the steps on the Recovering The Vista or Windows 7 Bootloader from the DVD page. Basically, you'll hit "repair your computer," which is just "startup repair"

Take it easy... 🙂
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1856 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:Once you have successfully used Nero Burning ROM to burn that ISO onto a disc and booted up your system using it, you'll want to follow the steps outlined on the Recovering The Vista or Windows 7 Bootloader from the DVD page—essentially, you're looking to select "Repair Your Computer," which leads you right into "Startup Repair."

Let's take a breath here... 🙂


I've run into a bit of a snag. I launch Burner, click on "Burn ISO image (allows burning an ISO file to a disc)," and the very next window pops up asking me to select the specific ISO I want to burn. However, when I hit browse and navigate to my desktop where the BitTorrent file containing the actual ISO is located, I'm completely stuck! The selection window seems to only be showing me the folders sitting on my desktop rather than letting me access the actual torrent folder where the ISO is tucked away. I'm totally hitting a wall here—do you have any advice on how to get past this, Noah Sanchez39?
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1857 ·
Well, I believe I’ve finally pulled it off...
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#1858 ·
Lawrence Doyle7 said:Alright, I think I actually pulled it off...

So, did the BitTorrent client finish grabbing that 165MB ISO recovery disc? Can you see the file on your desktop (or wherever you saved it)?
Did you actually Burn ISO to a CD?

🤔
Lawrence Doyle7 Lawrence Doyle7 Member
43 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1859 ·
It claims that it can't burn to the CD-RW, and frankly, I haven't the slightest clue why that would be happening. But here’s the real kicker: the drive actually ejected the disc right in the middle of the process! I genuinely thought the session had successfully finished, but when I pop the disc back in, it shows up as completely blank...
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#1860 ·
Lawrence Doyle7 said:But he claims he can't burn to a CD-RW—no clue why—but the real kicker is that the drive just spat the disc right back out. I thought the burn actually finished, but once I popped it back in, the disc showed up completely empty...

Where exactly are you in the process?

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