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Why was the forum feedback and suggestions thread closed?

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Participants hiddenpuma75Linda Davis2silentsailor5Ronald AllenSteven Clark2Grace Wood5Matthew Grant9
hiddenpuma75 hiddenpuma75 RegularOP
376 messages
joined Dec 2002
#1 ·
I was hoping an admin could clarify why the thread where we can all pitch ideas to improve the site has been locked down.

http://www.forum.us/showthread.php?t=459826

To be honest, it just doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Closing off a space for feedback feels counterproductive and, frankly, it doesn't really foster that sense of community or cooperation we all want for this forum.

I’d love to see that specific thread, or maybe a new one similar to it, reopened for discussion.🙂
Linda Davis2 Linda Davis2 Member
15 messages
joined Feb 2012
#2 ·
It’s completely unnecessary!
Here is something ridiculous... a moderator can't be under 30? What kind of arbitrary division is that?
What am I supposed to do with my 21 years, then? I’ve spent more than half my life online—I likely know more than some 50-year-old out there.🤷

For instance, I didn't get this role through connections—I don't know anyone in charge, absolutely nobody—but they clearly noticed my dedication and hard work, so they brought me on board.

What you're saying has nothing to do with improving the forum; it's just your own negativity and a way to point fingers at someone specific—some moderator or admin you happen to be clashing with.
Give me one example: how exactly is a 30-year-old going to manage Taylor Swift?

Besides, just because someone is older than me doesn't mean they're smarter—or that I should shut up just because they're older (and supposedly "wiser").

Please.
hiddenpuma75 hiddenpuma75 RegularOP
376 messages
joined Dec 2002
#3 ·
Bryan Wood49 said:If you ask me, it’s completely unnecessary!

I don't think I quite made my point clear regarding why I believe a thread about improving the forum's performance is unnecessary at this stage. 🤷

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What you're saying doesn't actually contribute to making this forum better; it just feels like you're airing grievances and pointing fingers at everyone else. I’m not quite sure who we’re talking about here—someone? There is a specific moderator-administrator that you happen to be at odds with.

I don't really know anyone here, and frankly, I don't think anyone knows me either. Just to be clear, I’m not here to hawk any products or push any sales pitches.
I truly wish them nothing but the best. Honestly, I couldn't care less about their private lives, and frankly, I don't have any particular interest in anyone on this forum as an individual.
I'm really only interested in the actual numbers behind these ideas.
Look, I can be pretty laid back, but once I spot an error being made, I just can't help myself—I have to speak up.
They take things so personally that they end up reacting unfairly, mostly just out of spite. They’ll shut down an entire discussion just to nitpick my font choice or claim I’m using too many emojis—focusing on those kinds of trivialities instead of actually addressing the point.
It’s pretty obvious they’re just too young. This is exactly how immature, overly emotional people react when they're under the impression that what they're doing is some kind of monumental achievement.
Let’s be honest: moderation here is a total mess. But really, they only managed to make such a disaster out of it because of their own constant blunders.
Moderation has turned into its own sub-forum, and honestly, all this constant interference is becoming a major distraction for everyone here.
It’s like being pulled over by the police every single day, where they demand to see your driver's license and all those other little bits of paperwork just because they feel like it.
Your font choice is looking a little suspicious to me. You’re moving around way too much—it's making me a bit uneasy!
Law enforcement should really aim to be low-profile.Life has a funny way of teaching you that nothing is ever actually personal. But when you’re stuck between twenty-one and twenty-five? Honestly, it feels impossible to grasp that truth. At that age, you're convinced the entire world is revolving around your own little drama.
Someone truly significant.

Give me an example here—how exactly is someone in their thirties supposed to manage Taylor Swift?

Sure, that’s one exception. But just because we have one outlier doesn't mean we should throw the whole principle out the window.
Every political party has its youth wing, so it only makes sense that someone young is at the helm.
Let’s be honest—you don't see anyone leading a major political party or running the government at 21, let alone 29. Honestly, you won't find anyone in charge at 30, either!
Take a good look at the landscape: you won't find anyone under the age of 30 sitting in the Cabinet, heading up the boards of major corporations, or holding any kind of high-level leadership position. It’s just not happening.
Give it some thought.

Look, just because someone happens to be older than me doesn't automatically mean they're any wiser. It certainly shouldn't mean I have to sit here in silence just because they're supposedly the "smart one" in the room. Age isn't a magic pass for being right all the time, is it?

It’s just the natural order of things.
It’s funny how you look back on it, but there’s a definite pattern to how our brains develop. You seem to hit a stride where you're significantly sharper at fifteen than you were back when you were ten, and then by twenty-one, that intellectual growth really picks up speed again compared to those teenage years. It's like we go through these distinct waves of clarity. 😉
silentsailor5 silentsailor5 Member
46 messages
joined Mar 2009
#4 ·
Bryan Wood49 said:Could you give me an actual example? How is someone who is thirty supposed to lead Taylor Swift?

It is quite simple, 🤣

You haven't really explained why a topic regarding improving the forum's operations is considered unnecessary.

The reasoning is straightforward: a user with 10,000 posts might actually provide less value to this community than someone with only 800. Similarly, a thirty-year-old may offer less meaningful contribution than a twenty-one-year-old. Furthermore, one can contribute far more to the quality of the discussion by providing thoughtful responses to existing topics rather than simply creating new ones.
hiddenpuma75 hiddenpuma75 RegularOP
376 messages
joined Dec 2002
#5 ·
silentsailor5 said:Because someone who’s 30 might actually contribute less to this community than a 21-year-old. Or because some people provide much more value by engaging in discussions rather than constantly trying to start their own threads.

1) You seem really intent on making exceptions to the rules, getting all philosophical when what we actually need are clear, concrete guidelines.

2) If we followed your logic that men are physically stronger, we wouldn't go ahead and start a women's division in
boxing just because you happen to know a woman who can outmuscle plenty of guys.

3) If we argued that nobody under 30 sits on the boards of major corporations or heads the most important government agencies, we wouldn't be forming executive boards filled with twenty-somethings just because you know a PhD candidate who finished their doctorate at 22.

4) Sure, someone can contribute just by replying to posts, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to point out that if a person hasn't started a single thread in the psychology section and rarely participates there, they REALLY shouldn't be serving as a moderator for psychology.😉
silentsailor5 silentsailor5 Member
46 messages
joined Mar 2009
#6 ·
hiddenpuma75 said:4) While anyone can contribute to the forum appropriately, it seems perfectly reasonable to suggest that if an individual hasn't actually started any threads in the psychology section and doesn't participate there regularly, they SHOULD NOT serve as a moderator for that section.😉

How can you be certain he isn't constantly active in the psychology section? You have no way of knowing if he's reading those threads or not. Besides, all this extra formality regarding the quote is quite unnecessary. We are just on a forum, after all.
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#7 ·
Why are you guys even bothering to argue with him in the first place...?
Like, why are you even trying to justify yourselves to him?
I just don't get where he gets off thinking he actually knows how things work—and apparently, he's all upset that someone else is doing the moderating instead of him. ☕

As if he could do a better job... 😳
Steven Clark2 Steven Clark2 Active Member
85 messages
joined Sep 2020
#8 ·
Ronald Allen said:But why on earth are you all bothering to argue with him in the first place...?
Why even bother justifying yourselves to him?
I simply cannot fathom where he gets the notion that he understands how any of this works, or why he seems so aggrieved that someone else is handling the moderation duties.☕

As if he could do a better job...😳

Personally, I don't believe that is his issue at all. 🙂 Not in the slightest. Would you be interested in hearing what the actual problem might be? 🙂
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#9 ·
Steven Clark2 said:I don't think that's even his problem. I mean, maybe, but honestly? I just don't see it being an issue on his end. 🙂 Not even close. You want to know what might be the issue? Maybe. I guess. 🙂

I'm listening.
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
116 messages
joined Aug 2010
#10 ·
Ronald Allen said:I'm listening.

It’s always the same guy. He’s too busy pointing out the speck in everyone else's eye to notice the massive log sticking out of his own. And he just won't shut up about it. 🙄
Look, if you’re going to call someone out on a mistake—whether it's a regular user or a moderator—you should do it. It’s necessary. But for heaven's sake, base your argument on actual facts, not just your own damn prejudices.
When people try to pass off their own prejudices as fundamental rules or the "standard operating procedure" for how a PDF or this entire forum should run, you end up with threads exactly like this one.
hiddenpuma75 said:If men are physically stronger, then there’s no point in even trying to start an all-female squad.
I salute you. You clearly know what's up because you've actually met a woman who can outwork and outmuscle plenty of guys out there.

🤣Give me a break with these comparisons. We’ve got people in our high school classes who just can't wrap their heads around math—so what, should we just scrap it from the curriculum entirely?
I don't know what you're trying to say with that. If you have a point, make it. Don't just drop a single word and expect me to do the heavy lifting for you. I'm not here to play guessing games. Either speak up or move on.
Why on earth shouldn't there be a women's boxing division? If women are interested in boxing, why stop them? It makes zero sense to shut them out just because of some outdated idea of how the sport should look. If they want to step into the ring, let them. Period.
What makes you think women couldn't put on a fight that’s actually high-quality—or at least just as good as the men's? If you look at it from a purely technical standpoint... I don't know what kind of logic you people are using, but this whole "sports" thing is getting ridiculous. It’s all noise and no substance lately. I remember watching games back in the day where people actually cared about the fundamentals, not just the highlight reels and the social media drama. Now? It's just a circus. If you aren't watching for the actual competition, what are you even doing? Total waste of time. Stalls?! Are you kidding me?
That’s what you call having a prejudice—and honestly, that's the nicest way I can put it right now.

If there isn't a single person under 30 in the room, we've got a serious problem on our hands. It all comes back to the people sitting in the high offices—those running the government and the boards of directors at the biggest organizations in the country. It’s the same old story everywhere you look. Whether it's Washington D.C. or the boardroom of a massive corporation like JPMorgan Chase, the power dynamics rarely change. You have these elite circles making decisions that affect millions, often without a second thought for the actual people on the ground. I’ve seen it firsthand in my own career; you can follow every rule in the book, but if you aren't part of the "inner circle" in management, your input doesn't mean squat. It's a closed loop. We aren't going to start handing out executive positions to twenty-year-olds just because you happen to know some genius who snagged a PhD at 22.

🤔 Is this even a forum anymore?
Is this just another failed comparison?

Look, anyone can contribute to this forum if they stay on topic, but let’s be real here: if someone hasn't even started a single thread in the psychology section and isn't active there regularly, they have no business being a moderator for that subforum. It just doesn't make sense.

😂 So, let me get this straight. Is the fundamental requirement for moderation now just sending private proofs to specific users to show them we’re actually tracking or understanding PDF files?!
What exactly does it take to pull this off? Give me the full list.
Do two witnesses and a notarized statement cut it, or do I actually have to go out and prove academic credentials through the American Academy of Arts and Sciences or some other high-brow institution?

Finally, the forum is public. But let’s be clear: this is private property. Whether you like it or not, we play by the house rules here. If anyone has a problem with that, there's a massive world of other options out there—including starting your own forum where you can make up whatever rules you want, provided they don't break the laws of the country where you're registered.
Matthew Grant9 Matthew Grant9 Active Member
76 messages
joined Jul 2011
#11 ·
I honestly can't help myself when I see someone posting under a name like that! It’s just such a grand, dramatic way to introduce yourself to the group, isn't it? I always find myself smiling whenever I encounter those kinds of legendary references popping up in our little corner of the internet. It really adds a certain flair to the conversation, even if I am just sitting here feeling slightly uncoordinated and overly enthusiastic about everything! kaže:
I truly believe that while everyone is more than welcome to contribute to our community in their own unique way, it’s only fair to point out that being a moderator for the psychology section should probably come with a little more experience! It seems a bit much to hand over the keys to the kingdom if someone hasn't actually started any discussions there or even popped into those threads very often, don't you think? I'm sure I'm just being a bit overly picky, but it feels like having a steady presence in the sub-forum would make so much more sense for the role! 😉

People around here seem to use this point as a go-to argument for all sorts of different PDFs, but honestly, I find myself getting a little tripped up by the whole language aspect—it just feels completely nonsensical to me!
If we’re assuming that a moderator actually has the right credentials—you know, like being a licensed psychologist, a physicist, a computer scientist, or some other kind of specialist—then I honestly can't help but wonder why on earth they would bother starting a discussion thread on their own personal PDF!
I honestly feel like Temu only opens up these forums when they’re stumped by something, yet most of the questions people actually have are things they probably view as totally trivial! It’s almost funny how they see our basic inquiries as such minor details. If we actually started asking what they *really* wanted us to ask on a community board, wouldn't that just turn into pure, unadulterated trolling anyway?
Of course, we have to admit that not all PDFs are created equal, so I really don't think that argument holds any water when you're looking at something like a policy proposal! In those cases, you're mostly dealing with someone's personal opinions and perspectives rather than hard, scientifically proven facts, so it's a totally different ballgame.

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