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Washington, D.C. (Indianapolis) 04.05–04.09

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Participants Raymond Palmer8ironfalcon43slybison8Christian Williams61jadetrucker43Morgan Murphy7silentbear49feraltrucker5Bradley Nelson2Aaron BakerJessica Ramos12Mark Ruiz8Dennis Baker34Maria Nelson2cosmicridge5mistybear87Olivia Watson46placidsurfer9Raymond Ortiz89Jose Taylor17Anthony Peterson5redstagAmy Mendoza25stormybadger8 …
Brian Collins25 Brian Collins25 Member
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joined Apr 2009
#141 ·
Morgan Murphy7 said:exactly 😁

I follow Fernando Alonso, and if there's even a slight chance he grabs a single point, I'm practically shaking with excitement. 🤣

And once upon a time, he was actually a World Champion. 😉

Man, that’s just sad. 😢
Maria Foster372 Maria Foster372 Member
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#142 ·
ironfalcon43 said:It's better to take the leap first and worry about the landing later, isn't it?☕

Fernando Alonso plus Ferrari equals a very imminent future. 👍
Maria Foster372 Maria Foster372 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#143 ·
Arthur Fox49 said:anything but that👎

Just let it be. Coming soon. 👍
John Bennett4 John Bennett4 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#144 ·
Keith Jones19 said:I actually prefer vanilla

Just let me know if you need anything else

Lewis Hamilton's car 🙏🙏🙏

Come on, McLaren 👍
John Bennett4 John Bennett4 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#145 ·
Bradley Nelson2 said:The only thing I can say for certain after this race is that Kimi once again proved he’s just a total amateur out there.

Verbatim transcription 😛
John Bennett4 John Bennett4 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#146 ·
What a chaotic race—kudos to Brawn, really. It’s becoming painfully obvious just how much that "holy trinity" meant to Ferrari. That look on Stefano Domenicali's face when Kimi radio in to say his tires were completely shot? Absolutely priceless.

Massa, man... look, you don't have to be a fan of him, but he suddenly seems a whole lot more likable after this. Though, honestly, if he’d just shave that ridiculous little beard of his, who knows where he might end up.

Button deserves serious credit here; even Barrichello didn't put up a bad fight.

Nick Heidfeld—still the quiet type who works hard behind the scenes. It's a real shame the BMW crew seems way too preoccupied with Lewis Hamilton to notice what he's doing.

Lewis Hamilton—I mean, he was wrestling a total junker of a car with the rev limiter stuck, yet he still managed to claw his way up to 5th. Out of everyone out there, he held his line the best and, most importantly, didn't screw anything up. Seriously, hats off to him.👍

As for Lewis, he basically headed out to go farming the second the first raindrops hit. I suspect the temperature or some sudden chill threw him off; I'll give him a pass this time, even if he's acting like he has no idea what he's doing or saying.👍

Vettel—well, he's got plenty of chocolate bars left to gobble up before he sees any real success.👎

Kimi looks seriously rough. Either he’s just not a good fit at Ferrari, or he's reached his absolute limit with everything... I mean, he can't possibly be this miserable. At this rate, he'll be retiring soon to go live somewhere frozen and remote in the middle of nowhere.
ironfalcon43 ironfalcon43 Member
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#147 ·
Tyler Ross52 said:Alonso joining Ferrari seems like an imminent reality. 👍

Desires are one thing, but reality is often something else entirely.☕
slyscout13 slyscout13 Newcomer
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#148 ·
I guess I should probably mention that maminho always had such a unique way of looking at things, didn't they? It’s funny how some people just stick in your mind like that. Maybe it was the way they approached every topic—always so thoughtful and balanced. I honestly think we could all learn a little something from that kind of perspective. kaže:
It honestly looks a little ridiculous how they're handling this half-point situation.🤣🤣Does anyone happen to remember when that last happened? You know, back when they actually handed out half the floor like that? I guess it’s been quite a while, but I can't quite pin down the exact moment.🤷

I’ve been spending quite a bit of time lately thinking about the whole Ferrari situation, and I have to say, it’s such a complex puzzle to wrap my head around. When you look at a team with that kind of legacy and weight behind them, you realize it’s never just about the cars themselves, right? It feels like there is this constant, heavy expectation hanging over everything they do, which probably makes the pressure inside the garage almost unbearable at times. I guess what I find most fascinating is how they balance that immense history with the need to constantly innovate. It’s not just about being fast; it’s about carrying that entire identity through every race weekend. Maybe that's why their ups and downs feel so much more dramatic than other teams—when they win, it feels like a triumph for the whole sport, but when things go sideways, it feels deeply personal for the fans. I don't know, I just can't help but wonder how much of their strategy is driven by pure data versus how much is influenced by that legendary, almost mythical prestige they carry. It’s a delicate dance, for sure.🤣😂
Ross Brawn🙏If that race hadn't been red-flagged, I'm pretty sure we would have seen either a fifth win or at least a one-two finish on the podium.

I think the last time we saw something like that was back at the 1991 Australian Grand Prix in Adelaide. If I recall correctly, that was the season finale, and they had only managed to complete 14 out of the 81 laps before everything went sideways.
So, here’s how the points—or half-points, depending on how you look at it—were handed out:
I’d have to say my pick would be Ayrton Senna driving that legendary McLaren-Honda. It’s hard to argue against that era of dominance.
2. (3) Nigel Mansell (Williams-Renault)
3. (2) Gerhard Berger (McLaren-Honda)
4. (1.5) Nelson Piquet (Benetton-Ford)
5. (1) Riccardo Patrese (Williams-Renault)
6. (0.5) Gianni Morbidelli (Ferrari)

Here’s the Wikipedia link:The 1991 Australian Grand Prix was such a fascinating race to look back on, wasn't it? It really felt like one of those pivotal moments where the sport was shifting gears. If you dive into the history of that weekend in Adelaide, there’s just so much layers to unpack. It was a massive showdown between the heavy hitters. You had Ayrton Senna driving for McLaren-Honda, absolutely dominating most of the race, looking almost untouchable. But, as often happens in racing, things didn't go exactly according to plan. He had this incredible pace, but then he ran into some mechanical trouble—specifically an issue with the car's electronics—which ultimately cost him the win. I guess it just goes to show that even when you have the fastest machine on the grid, the smallest glitch can change everything. Then you have Nigel Mansell, who was piloting that Williams-Renault. He was incredibly consistent, and while he couldn't quite catch Senna during the peak of his run, he was right there in the mix. In the end, Mansell managed to take the victory, which was a huge deal. It felt like a testament to the reliability and the sheer grit of the Williams team at that time. Looking further down the order, it was also interesting to see how the different drivers handled the pressure. You had guys like Gerhard Berger in the McLaren-Honda trying to keep up, and Nelson Piquet in the Benetton-Ford fighting for position. Even someone like Riccardo Patrese was part of that intense mid-field battle. It wasn't just about the top two or three; the whole grid seemed to be pushing the limits of what those engines could handle on that street circuit. Maybe it’s just me, but I find these older races so much more compelling because you could really feel the raw tension between the legendary drivers and the evolving technology. It wasn't just a test of speed; it was a high-stakes chess match played out at 200 miles per hour. It was a beautiful, chaotic, and ultimately brilliant display of what Formula 1 is all about.

Honestly, it drives me a little crazy when people who don't even have a 75% completion rate on their trivia knowledge start trying to lecture others. They’ll try to bring up stuff like the 1984 Monaco Grand Prix or that Spanish Grand Prix back in the mid-70s—I think it was '74 or '75, maybe? The one that had to be called off because Jochen Mass lost control of his McLaren and several spectators were tragically killed. There were plenty of other races just like that one too, but I really don't feel like digging through the history books just to prove them wrong.
Tyler Carter33 Tyler Carter33 Newcomer
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#149 ·
What an incredible race. It’s a damn shame the rain forced a stoppage, because things were definitely about to get even more chaotic out there on the track. Ferrari looks shockingly bad right now; they’ve been absolute garbage all season, failing miserably in both qualifying and the actual race.😂
Poor Massa, haha. What a pathetic display—sitting there like a total nerd just waiting for the race to restart. If he’d actually managed to scrape together even a single point, I might have felt a shred of sympathy for him.🤣
Credit where credit is due: Lewis Hamilton proved once again that he’s in a league of his own and remains the undisputed best driver in Formula 1.🙏🙏\🙏\
Jose Taylor17 Jose Taylor17 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#150 ·
Tyler Carter33 said:It was a spectacular race, though it’s a shame the rain forced that interruption; things would have surely escalated on track if they hadn't stopped. Ferrari looks surprisingly lackluster for an opening stretch of the season, making some truly fundamental mistakes in both qualifying and the race itself.😂
Poor Massa—what a tragic figure. He sat there so patiently, just waiting for the race to resume in his car. If he had actually managed to scrape even a single point from this, I might have felt a modicum of sympathy for him.🤣
As for Lewis Hamilton, one has to hand it to him; he once again demonstrated pure class and proved why he remains the premier driver in Formula 1.🙏 🙏 🙏

You're certainly stirring the pot here, ☕

But regarding Massa, Robert Kubica, and the other favorites who seem to have hit a bit of a snag... there is still plenty of time left. Everything will eventually settle where it belongs.☕
John Bennett4 John Bennett4 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#151 ·
Jose Taylor17 said:you're just being provocative ☕

it’s really just an objective ☕
ironfalcon43 ironfalcon43 Member
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#152 ·
Tyler Carter33 said:That was an incredible race. It’s truly a shame the rain forced a stoppage, because I suspect things would have gotten even more chaotic out there on the track. It is quite surprising to see Ferrari struggling so much at the start of this season; they seemed completely out of sync during both qualifying and the race itself.😂
Poor Felipe Massa—it was almost painful to watch him waiting so patiently for the restart in his car. If he had managed to snag even a single point, I think I would have felt genuinely sorry for him.🤣
As for Lewis Hamilton, all credit to him. He proved once again that he is in a class of his own and remains the premier driver in Formula 1.🙏 🙏🙏

She clearly doesn't quite grasp what she's talking about.🙂
Brian Collins25 Brian Collins25 Member
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#153 ·
John Bennett4 said:Lewis Hamilton drove a total junk car with a stuck rev limiter and still managed to claw his way up to 5th. Out of everyone on that track, he was easily the best at holding his line, and more importantly, he didn't screw anything up. Massive respect, once again. 👍

Vettel, you’ve still got plenty of chocolate pudding left to eat. 👎

Which race were you watching where Lewis Hamilton finished 5th?
And even then, what he actually achieved was just a fluke caused by a few random excursions and pure luck. For most of the race, he was practically invisible.

And Vettel is basically an alien to him. The season has barely even kicked off, so we'll see where he actually stands soon enough. Unless, of course, Red Bull runs into trouble because their car design is such an outlier compared to the rest of the field.🤷

Tyler Carter33 said:What a race. It’s a damn shame the rain forced a stoppage, because things were definitely about to get chaotic on track. As for Ferrari, they look shockingly bad right out of the gate this season—absolute garbage performance in both qualifying and the race itself.😂
Poor Massa. Honestly, what a loser. He sat there like such a nerd just waiting for the race to restart, hoping his car would actually pick up a single point. If I actually cared about him, I might have felt bad, but I don't.🤣
Kudos to Lewis Hamilton. He’s proven once again that he’s in a league of his own and clearly the best driver in Formula 1.🙏🙏🙏

What exactly are we supposed to expect from them?
With both Ross Brawn and Jean Todt gone, the team is completely falling apart. Kimi couldn't care less than usual, and while Massa is giving it his all, it’s damn near impossible to race seriously without real leadership at the helm.

Lewis Hamilton is the best driver McLaren has ever had... for now. ☕
ironfalcon43 ironfalcon43 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#154 ·
Brian Collins25 said:Lewis Hamilton stands as the greatest driver in McLaren history... at least for the time being.☕

It's pretty clear you weren't paying much attention to last season.☕
Brian Collins25 Brian Collins25 Member
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joined Apr 2009
#155 ·
ironfalcon43 said:Clearly, you didn't watch last season.☕

Look, I get that you're a McLaren fan—nobody's perfect—but you seriously can't sit there and tell me they're the best.

First off, McLaren performed incredibly well last year—especially compared to how they're running this season. When you pair that kind of technical performance with an elite driver, success becomes an absolute certainty.

Looking back at last season, Vettel beat him in that specific race where he lost the very position that cost him the championship. It’s a pattern, too—the year before that, he also completely bottled the deciding race and let the title slip away.

Just because someone took the title last year doesn't mean they're the greatest to ever sit in a cockpit. In my book, Alonso, Vettel, and Kubica are far superior drivers. Sure, those two might not have the trophy cabinet to back it up just yet, but their time is coming—and it's going to happen fast.
Jose Taylor17 Jose Taylor17 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#156 ·
Of course, BMW is the gold standard ☕
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 Regular
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joined Oct 2009
#157 ·
stormybadger8 said:Fellipe Baby be cool 😎 😬 🤣😂

Best part of yesterday's race...

Overall, it was a solid, entertaining race. The rain added some much-needed drama, but that downpour at the end pretty much killed the vibe since things were actually heating up.
Brian Collins25 Brian Collins25 Member
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joined Apr 2009
#158 ·
Jose Taylor17 said:oh sure, BMW is just the absolute best ☕

My grandma’s got more wrinkles than you ☕
Brian Collins25 Brian Collins25 Member
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joined Apr 2009
#159 ·
stormybadger8 said:Fellipe Baby be cool 😎 😬 🤣😂

This could be tweaked slightly to make for an incredible ad campaign!

"I need a Budweiser! Please, come on! A Budweiser! Aside from that, I can't drink anything else!"

"Felipe, baby, stay cool! We're bringing you the Budweiser, stay cool!"

-Stay cool. Drink Budweiser!-
slyscout13 slyscout13 Newcomer
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#160 ·
slyscout13 said:I guess when people with less than a 75% completion rate start talking, they tend to bring up things like the Monaco GP in '84 or the Spanish GP (back in '74 or '75—I can't quite recall which—when it was halted after some spectators were killed when Jochen Mass went off in his McLaren). There were probably plenty of other races like that too, if I were to go looking for them now.

Actually, let me correct myself there—for the Spanish GP, it was actually Rolf Stommelen in the Lola-Ford who went off, which unfortunately caused fatalities among the spectators. That specific race was won by Jochen Mass driving the McLaren-Ford, and they only managed to complete 29 out of 75 laps.

Also, during that same season, the Austrian GP had to be stopped because of heavy rain. Vittorio Brambilla ended up winning that one in the March-Ford, which I believe was the only GP victory of his entire career.

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