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Timothy Vaughn44 Timothy Vaughn44 MemberOP
27 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1 ·
If there’s any woman or girl out there who has actually gone through this, please reach out 🙏... or maybe someone who knows someone close to them who has
. I’m really just looking to hear about everyone's experiences—like, what’s the best approach, what does the recovery look like, how are the results, etc... basically everything!
My mom is planning on doing this pretty soon and she’s feeling a bit lost because she doesn't know anything about the process or even which method to pick, and honestly, there’s such a lack of helpful info online... I'd mostly love to hear from women who have personally been through it.
brighttiger40 brighttiger40 Newcomer
1 message
joined Nov 2008
#2 ·
And what is the medical consensus on her case? It is frankly pathetic that patients are forced to scavenge for information online. I realize I am overstepping here, but I simply cannot help myself; the dismissive attitude some doctors maintain toward their patients is infuriating. If we are discussing breast reconstruction following cancer surgery, my understanding is that both autologous tissue reconstruction and silicone implants are viable options. While I may not be providing exhaustive assistance, perhaps someone here who has personally navigated this or supported a family member could provide more detailed insight...
Timothy Vaughn44 Timothy Vaughn44 MemberOP
27 messages
joined Feb 2009
#3 ·
So, yeah, we’re looking at reconstruction following breast cancer surgery from about three years ago..
There’s basically the choice between using a silicone implant or doing a flap reconstruction using tissue from her back..
The surgeon seems to be leaning toward the second option, though honestly, that’s pretty much all the info we’ve managed to squeeze out of him. She went in for a consultation a few days ago, and he just showed her a couple of diagrams and called it a day. When she tried to ask for a more detailed breakdown of the actual procedures, he kind of brushed her off, acting like there wasn't much point in explaining it all to her. She’s actually scheduled for the surgery in two months, so she really needs to make a call on which way to go by then. People say he’s a great surgeon and really knows his stuff, but I have to say, their whole bedside manner is just incredibly disappointing..
I’ve been scouring the internet trying to find stories from other women who've gone through this, but I haven't found much, so I was really hoping someone here might know something or has personally dealt with this before..😕
From what I can gather online, the muscle/tissue route sounds a lot more complicated, involving more incisions and a much longer recovery period. With the implants, it's more of a multi-step process, but the actual procedure is less invasive and the downtime is shorter. Then again, I can't be entirely sure because everything I read feels like it's just pulled from a dozen different random sources, and we still have no idea what the final results actually look like..🙄
Kyle Brown88 Kyle Brown88 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Dec 2009
#4 ·
Look, first things first... if a doctor is being rude, just tell them you’re done with them. Seriously. Report them to the department head for being unprofessional and treating a patient poorly... just so they get what's coming to them. Then, move on to a different hospital where people will actually treat you with some dignity. You're a human being, not just a piece of meat...

Regarding reconstruction, you basically have two paths: muscle flap surgery or implants. With the muscle approach, the perk is that you aren't putting a foreign object in your body, though water-filled implants aren't exactly "dangerous," I suppose. My main issue with the muscle route is that if you harvest half a muscle from your back, you're essentially sacrificing some functionality... which seems like a pretty questionable trade-off to me. Cutting into a muscle that helps you move, knowing it might never fully recover... it's a lot. Just a heads-up, a surgeon who favors the muscle method probably won't give you the full, honest picture regarding loss of function or pain... they'll likely just sing praises for their own preferred technique.

As for implants, the standard process usually starts with an expander—basically a smaller version of the implant. They inject fluid into the expander over several sessions until the skin stretches enough to accommodate the final volume (if they had just placed the implant immediately after the tumor removal, this whole step wouldn't even be necessary...). Once the skin is ready, they swap the expander for the actual implant. In the end, you're left with a scar running roughly down the middle of the breast, and there's no nipple. You can reconstruct the nipple using local tissue flaps, or you could just go the tattoo route. Personally, I think tattooing looks better... and you can probably find a really talented tattoo artist in any major US city who can pull that off perfectly.

I hope these thoughts help... there's plenty of info out there online if you keep looking.
Timothy Vaughn44 Timothy Vaughn44 MemberOP
27 messages
joined Feb 2009
#5 ·
She’s already made up her mind about going to that specific doctor, and honestly, I’ve reached the point where I can't really sway her anymore... everyone says he's highly skilled, even if he does come across as a bit cold, which seems pretty obvious from what's been shared here. I suspect there might be some systemic issues at the hospital too, especially since she’s had such bad experiences with them in the past, and we don't exactly have many options since this is the only major medical center in our area—we aren't out in Washington, D.C. after all.
Everything you mentioned is exactly what I managed to dig up online, though it feels like that's really the extent of the information available. I'm still a little unsure about how that muscle involvement plays into things, specifically regarding how much that loss of tissue in her back actually impacts her, but the doctor did mention it shouldn't be an issue.🙄

He was also quite critical of the fact that they didn't leave enough skin coverage—I assume they used a certain type of implant during the initial surgery—and he felt they ended up removing way more tissue than was actually necessary... but I suppose what's done is done now.
Regarding the implant itself, from what I gather, silicone seems to be the only real option; it's not like they use saline or anything else. Based on my research into reconstruction, it looks like silicone is the standard, so there must be a good reason for that, even if it often leads to needing extra corrective procedures down the road.😢

My mom is leaning more towards the muscle-based procedure now because it avoids having a foreign object in her body, and the doctor seems to favor that route too. My main worry, though, is that her arm has been feeling weaker since the last surgery, and I can't help but wonder if messing with the muscle again will just make it worse. The doctor insists it won't, but I find myself wondering if I should actually take his word for it.
On the flip side, there's the idea of choosing the silicone and dealing with a foreign body inside her that could potentially leak or cause complications at any moment, which is already a lot to handle, not to mention the likelihood of needing more touch-ups. The doctor brushed it off by saying if it does leak, it can just be replaced, as if she hasn't already been through enough surgeries in her lifetime.🙄

If it were up to me, I’d love for her to skip any further surgery altogether, but she’s set on this, and if it makes her feel better, I don't think anyone can really tell her otherwise.😢
It really feels like nobody has any firsthand experience to share.😢
darkmaker darkmaker Active Member
73 messages
joined Apr 2008
#6 ·
A friend of my mother's went through this, though it was quite some time ago—roughly ten years back. She dealt with cancer in both breasts and ultimately decided on silicone implants. In her case, the reconstruction was performed very shortly after the tumors were removed. She recovered well from both procedures, and fortunately, the cancer hasn't returned since.

I came across this information regarding reconstruction while browsing the Eljuga clinic website:

Silicone Implant Reconstruction
Following a mastectomy, the surgeon places an expander, which functions much like a balloon, beneath the pectoral muscle. Over the following weeks or months, saline solution is gradually injected through a tiny valve under the skin to expand the device. Once the skin above the expander has stretched sufficiently, a subsequent surgical procedure is performed to replace the expander with a permanent implant. It is worth noting that certain expanders are designed to remain in the breast permanently. The nipple and the surrounding areola are reconstructed at a later stage. For some women, there is no need for the expansion phase, allowing for immediate implant placement.

Flap Reconstruction
An alternative reconstructive approach involving the use of skin grafts taken from another part of the body, such as the back or abdomen.

There are two primary methods for performing this procedure. The first utilizes tissue that remains connected to its original site, meaning the blood supply is never severed. This graft—consisting of skin, fat, and muscle with its own intrinsic blood supply—is moved beneath the skin of the chest to create a pocket for an implant, or in certain instances, the tissue itself provides enough volume for reconstruction without needing an additional implant.

The second method involves using tissue that is surgically harvested from the abdomen, thigh, or buttocks and then transplanted to the breast. In this scenario, the surgeon must manually reconstruct the blood supply for the transplanted tissue.

Because flap reconstruction uses the patient's own tissue, the results tend to look more natural, and the potential complications associated with silicone implants are entirely avoided. It should also be noted that this procedure alters the appearance of the donor site, often leaving the abdomen looking tighter. On the downside, one must consider a longer recovery period, a higher risk of complications, and more prominent scarring at both the breast site and the donor site.
Kyle Brown88 Kyle Brown88 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Dec 2009
#7 ·
When you're looking at blade reconstruction, you also have to account for the loss of muscle tissue, darkmaker.
darkmaker darkmaker Active Member
73 messages
joined Apr 2008
#8 ·
I was merely relaying what was explicitly stated on the clinic's official website... since I'm a patient there for gynecology, I happened to recall that they specialize in that field as well...
hollowranger8 hollowranger8 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jun 2008
#9 ·
Hey everyone, I wanted to reach out because I recently got some pretty heavy news—I’ve been diagnosed with breast cancer. After sitting down with my doctors to talk through the next steps, I've decided to go ahead with a mastectomy along with reconstruction. However, I just found out that they’re planning to use tissue from my back for the procedure, and they mentioned it might leave me with some permanent physical limitations on that side of my body. Honestly, that part really spooked me! I would love to hear from anyone who has gone through something similar. Personally, I’m leaning more towards using silicone implants or something similar instead. Any advice or personal stories you could share would mean the world to me!
bluesailor14 bluesailor14 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Apr 2010
#10 ·
I have no idea where you’ve been looking, but whatever you do, do not let them perform any procedures on you until you are absolutely certain.
You need to consult with additional physicians; seek out a second opinion, or even a third if necessary.
The leading breast specialist is based in Washington, D.C., at the Mayo Clinic under Prof. Stanec—I believe he sees private patients as well, so I would suggest scheduling a consultation just to get a clear picture of your options and the proper protocol.

Best of luck.
I truly hope everything turns out fine.
feralmoose32 feralmoose32 Regular
302 messages
joined Nov 2018
#11 ·
bluesailor14 gave a really solid recommendation for Stanec—he’s honestly a fantastic doctor when it comes to this kind of thing... you should definitely go see him to get his take on everything...
driftingpanther69 driftingpanther69 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2017
#12 ·
The Eljuga Medical Center. A close friend of mine went there for cancer removal and reconstruction—she was actually incredibly happy with the results. She mentioned they’re exceptionally attentive and really go out of their way to make you feel heard.
hollowranger8 hollowranger8 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jun 2008
#13 ·
Thanks so much for the help! Honestly, you feel so lost when you first start navigating all these doctor appointments. Does anyone happen to know what private specialists usually charge for these services—specifically for the removal and immediate reconstruction?
bluesailor14 bluesailor14 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Apr 2010
#14 ·
Stanec works over at Mayo Clinic; I honestly think we're looking at a very serious procedure here, so if I were in your shoes, I’d definitely prioritize a major hospital over some small private clinic. I was actually thinking that if the crowds at the hospital make it impossible to see him right away, you might want to try reaching out to his private practice for a consultation instead.
Vercingetorix likely has a website where you could check their pricing or find a direct contact number to get more details and schedule an appointment.
dustyraven43 dustyraven43 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2010
#15 ·
So, here is my situation,

About two years ago, my mother underwent surgery for breast cancer, which unfortunately required a mastectomy. She is still in her middle years and really wants to feel like herself again, so she has been looking into different reconstruction options.
From what we have gathered so far, this seems like a much more intricate journey than just getting implants. Several doctors have suggested that using a flap from her own tissue might be the most effective route for reconstruction. That being said, I would truly value hearing from anyone who has gone through this personally or has firsthand experience with the process. My main concerns are regarding the level of pain involved, how noticeable the scarring might be, and if there are any specific surgeons you would highly recommend!

I hope I haven't made myself sound too scattered...

Thank you!
hollowranger8 hollowranger8 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jun 2008
#16 ·
Hey! I wanted to get back to you regarding your mom and her breast reconstruction surgery. I’m actually scheduled for my own procedure on April 28th, so once I’m back home and feeling up to it, I’ll definitely reach out and let you know how everything went and what my experience was like. Honestly, from everything I’ve researched and heard, Dr. Stanec is absolutely incredible. My only issue is that I just can't swing his private fees right now, and if I try to go through my insurance, I'd be stuck waiting at least another month. I really don't want to wait that long—I've already been out on medical leave for way too much time already!
dustyraven43 dustyraven43 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2010
#17 ·
Thank you so much! Best of luck to you. I'm really looking forward to hearing some good news from you soon! 🙂))
brightmason37 brightmason37 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2011
#18 ·
So, I recently went through surgery for breast cancer, and after the mastectomy, they did a reconstruction too. Now I’m stuck with an implant, just a silicone breast. I was wondering if anyone else on here has gone through something similar? And honestly, are you guys actually happy with how things turned out? Because I’m definitely not... I've already got another procedure lined up on my calendar.😢
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
312 messages
joined Jun 2006
#19 ·
So, what’s actually bothering you guys?
brightmason37 brightmason37 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2011
#20 ·
The implants I got are way too small for my frame. My breasts are actually pretty large, so honestly? It looks worse than if I hadn't done anything at all. Plus, there’s still some of my natural tissue left over from before, and now I’ve got this scar from the last surgery sitting right there... ugh. So yeah, I have to head back into the hospital for another round, and just thinking about it makes me feel physically sick.

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