2009 Car Reveal

stormybadger8 said:Circuit of Barcelona - Spain 10 March 2009
Pos. Driver Team Tyres Time Laps
1 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari Bridgestone 01:20.314 55
2 Kazuki Nakajima Williams Bridgestone 01:20.907 66
3 Rubens Barrichello Brawn GP Bridgestone 01:20.966 111
4 Jarno Trulli Toyota Bridgestone 01:21.182 121
5 Mark Webber Red Bull Bridgestone 01:21.347 66
6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Bridgestone 01:21.615 127
7 Adrian Sutil Force India F1 Bridgestone 01:21.834 82
8 F. Alonso Renault Bridgestone 01:21.937 111
9 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren Bridgestone 01:21.991 88
10 Sébastien Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 01:23.039 14
11 S. Buemi Scuderia Bridgestone 00:00.000

This is getting quite strange😲 and even a bit worrying. It seems McLaren is already desperate; perhaps they are playing games by showing weaknesses that aren't actually there? Still, this might be a little too much just to pull a prank, wouldn't you say?☕

The biggest shock for most people is likely Brawn GP, though if you ask me, those guys could easily find themselves comfortably in the top 5.☕

It’s the truth, really. It’s obvious to everyone that McLaren is struggling. Even that new diffuser didn't seem to do the trick, but we'll have to wait and see how the rest of the testing goes—they do have some new parts ready to go.

BGP has been solid from the get-go, likely because they spent a good chunk of last season developing the car.

Word is that Williams ran with lighter fuel loads for the first time today, but the "upgrades" they brought to this test don't exactly look like they're making things any better.

stormybadger8 said:Circuit of Barcelona - Spain 10 March 2009 Pos
Pos. Driver Team Tyres Time Laps
1 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari Bridgestone 01:20.314 55
2 Kazuki Nakajima Williams Bridgestone 01:20.907 66
3 Rubens Barrichello Brawn GP Bridgestone 01:20.966 111
4 Jarno Trulli Toyota Bridgestone 01:21.182 121
5 Mark Webber Red Bull Bridgestone 01:21.347 66
6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Bridgestone 01:21.615 127
7 Adrian Sutil Force India F1 Bridgestone 01:21.834 82
8 F. Alonso Renault Bridgestone 01:21.937 111
9 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren Bridgestone 01:21.991 88
10 Sébastien Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 01:23.039 14
11 S. Buemi Scuderia Bridgestone Bridgestone 00:00.000

This is getting quite strange😲 and frankly a bit concerning. McLaren already seems desperate; perhaps they are intentionally masking their true pace by playing up weaknesses that aren't actually there, though this might be pushing the "tactical error" theory a bit too far.☕

While Brawn GP is likely the biggest shock to most people right now, I personally suspect those guys could easily secure a spot in the top five.☕

I have a feeling Brawn GP will indeed finish among the top five.☕

Honestly, if you want my two cents, here’s how I see the bloodbath shaking out:

Top tier:

Red Bull
Brawn GP
Ferrari
STR
BMW

Bottom tier:

Williams
Toyota
Renault
McLaren
Force India

And yeah, that’s roughly the order I'm looking at.☕

P. S. even though I can't stand Ferrari,👎 I really think they're going to be two or three times better than McLaren this year.☕

stormybadger8 said:Personally, I couldn't care less about the specifics, but if I had to speculate on how the hierarchy might shake out, it would likely look something like this:

The top tier:

Red Bull
Brawn GP
Ferrari
STR
BMW

The lower tier:

Williams
Toyota
Renault
McLaren
Force India

And that’s roughly the order I'd expect.☕

P. S. regardless of my personal distaste for Ferrari,👎 I suspect they will be two or three times better than McLaren this year.☕

I would have placed BMW a bit higher, and frankly, you're underestimating McLaren.

stormybadger8 said:No matter how much I might personally dislike Ferrari...👎 I honestly have a feeling that this year, they're going to be two or three times better than McLaren. Wouldn't that just change the entire dynamic of the season?☕

🙂

mistybear87 said:It’s true, and honestly, everyone can see McLaren is struggling right now. Even that new diffuser didn't do much to help, but I guess we'll have to wait and see how the rest of testing goes since they supposedly have some new parts ready to go.

BGP has been solid from the jump, probably just because they spent most of last season actually refining the car instead of playing catch-up.

Word is Williams ran with lighter fuel loads for the first time today, but those "upgrades" they brought to this test don't exactly look like they're making things any better.

uff... the foreign forums are absolutely blowing up right now, everyone getting worked up over testing data and leaked photos... it's all starting to feel like a prelude to something bigger.

stormybadger8 said:Honestly, I haven't given it too much thought, but if I had to guess how things might shake out, it could look something like this:

Top tier:

Red Bull
Brawn GP
Ferrari
STR
BMW

Lower tier:

Williams
Toyota
Renault
McLaren
Force India

And that's roughly the order I'm seeing.☕

P. S. regardless of how much I actually dislike Ferrari👎 I really think they're going to be two or three times better than McLaren this year.☕

I think you've seriously underestimated Williams here. ☕

stormybadger8 said:Circuit of Barcelona - Spain 10 March 2009
Pos. Driver Team Tyres Time Laps
1 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari Bridgestone 01:20.314 55
2 Kazuki Nakajima Williams Bridgestone 01:20.907 66
3 Rubens Barrichello Brawn GP Bridgestone 01:20.966 111
4 Jarno Trulli Toyota Bridgestone 01:21.182 121
5 Mark Webber Red Bull Bridgestone 01:21.347 66
6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Bridgestone 01:21.615 127
7 Adrian Sutil Force India F1 Bridgestone 01:21.834 82
8 F. Alonso Renault Bridgestone 01:21.937 111
9 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren Bridgestone 01:21.991 88
10 Sébastien Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 01:23.039 14
11 S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 00:00.000

This is getting quite strange😲 and honestly a bit worrying. McLaren seems desperate already; perhaps they're just messing around and showing weaknesses that aren't actually there, though this might be a bit too much even for a prank.☕

The biggest shock for most people is likely Brawn GP, though if you ask me, those folks could easily find themselves in the top 5.☕

Don't worry too much, my friend, everything is fine with McLaren.☕

That's just how it looks to me, and that's my take on things. You can agree or you can not, I don't really care.☕

And we all know who's actually good at making predictions, right?😉😬

stormybadger8 said:That’s just how I see it, and honestly, you guys can disagree all you want if it makes you feel better.☕

But we all know who actually calls the shots when it comes to predicting this mess.😉 😬

We can keep playing these guessing games for a while longer
even though most of what you're saying is spot on. 😉 ☕

stormybadger8 said:That’s just how I see things, and that's my take on the situation. You're more than welcome to disagree—it's certainly not for everyone.☕

And we all know who makes for a reliable prognosticator.😉😬

Look, we have to remember that these are just testing sessions. This is the phase where teams experiment with different setups and fine-tune everything to ensure the car is as ready as possible for the season opener. These practice results don't provide the full story. If you really want to see how the hierarchy stands, my advice is to wait until we get to Australia. That's when the real picture will emerge, and we’ll finally see exactly where McLaren, Red Bull, Williams, and Ferrari sit in the pecking order.😉

It doesn't feel quite right to write about "the champion" just yet, does it? 😬

Hamilton pretty much wrecked his car 🤣🤣

ironfalcon43 said:Look, this is just testing. It’s all about running different setups to see if they can actually get the car ready for the season opener. These numbers don't mean a thing; they aren't the real picture. If you want to see how things actually stand, just wait until we hit Australia. Then we'll finally see where McLaren, Red Bull, Williams, and Ferrari really sit.😉

Just keep hoping.
Australia is only two weeks away, and honestly, everything seems to be pretty much set in stone at this point.

Jose Taylor17 said:☕

Bad car, bad timing, wrong track, wrong year... it just keeps going, doesn't it?☕

mistybear87 said:Hamilton absolutely wrecked his car 🤣🤣

Given how difficult that thing is to handle...😢

It’s actually a pretty decent shot... looks almost like it's kicking up out of the sand 😉

Arthur Doyle70 said:A bad car, bad timing, a bad track, the wrong year... you name it, it's all excuses.☕

I'm not the one at fault here; it's that one website that published this image in the first place 😬 honestly, give me a break...☕

Jose Taylor17 said:It’s not on me; I'm just the victim of some random website that decided to post this picture. 😬 Man, what a mess...☕

Did someone put you under hypnosis before you posted this on the forum? ☕

Arthur Doyle70 said:So, were you under some kind of hypnosis when you posted that on the forum?? ☕

I posted it with my eyes wide open, having absolutely no idea I was falling for such a delusion. 🧐
However, I am quoting sepin's post here just to set the record straight😳—he absolutely dismantled it.🤣

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