07/09 -> She wants MORE?!

I’d be asking why everyone was stuck waiting until 10:45 if the promoters explicitly promised we’d be wrapped up by 10:30... why didn't the opening act just kick things off at 9:00? What was the hold-up? 🤷

And honestly, the staff at the venue acted like total cowards, I have to admit... "Is it 10:15?" — "It's 10:25!" — "Well, what time is it EXACTLY?" — "IT'S TEN TWENTY-FIVE, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!" — "Alright, alright, one more thing..."

Great band, really, but you guys definitely lacked that punk rock solidarity... 😢

They didn't even give us a heads-up—I mean, you basically had to practically beg them just to let things run past 10 PM

Kevin Chavez3 said:Personally, I’d ask why everyone was waiting until 9:45 if the security guards clearly stated everything had to wrap up by 10:30... why didn't the first band kick off at 9:00? What held them up? 🤷

From what I gather, the promoter cleared a permit with the city for the show to run until midnight, but then they spent the whole night ignoring that and insisting things end by 10:00 PM. I actually stepped in and told them 10:30 PM was the limit, maybe pushing it to 11:45 PM at most.
I don't know exactly when the organizer found out they were supposed to cut it at 10:00. She’s the one who can give you a straight answer on that. 🤷
If she knew earlier, then yeah, damn. They should have started sooner. 🤷

Kevin Chavez3 said:The crew acted a bit soft, I'll admit... "Is it ten-fifteen?" - "It's ten-twenty-five!" - "Man, what is the EXACT time?" - "IT'S TEN-TWENTY-FIVE, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!" - "Alright, we'll squeeze in one more..."

You guys are a great band, but you lacked that punk rock solidarity there. 😢

I'm sorry it went down that way. I mentioned this to the folks from Kyle too... I'm not making excuses, but I heard you guys actually said it was 10:05 at that moment. Besides, when you're on stage, you aren't exactly thinking about the clock, believe me. The organizer should have stepped in and shut it down, or the Kyle crew could have handled it—we wouldn't have had any issue with that and would have packed up in a second.
That's how we handled things when we played Z. Buki and Hebiga; we just told them to cut it because time was up.

And okay, let's say we finished at 10:28 PM... by then, Kyle was still spending 15 minutes setting up, checking the sound, and so on. There was only time for one song. If they had jumped in five minutes earlier, they would have had those same 15 minutes just like we did. We squeezed in seven songs, which takes less than 15 minutes. But they didn't want to deal with the soundboard, and nobody from their side checked the amps or anything while we were still getting our gear ready.

One of their guys came up to us at the end and lost his cool with us. Look, I get it... what am I supposed to say? 🤷

Honestly, the biggest mess here is that most of the crowd showed up specifically for Kyle, and they probably left feeling disappointed. 😢

The party was great later on, though... not many people stayed, but people were dancing and having a good time.

Forget about concerts or the local police 😁 I just wanted to have some fun, hang out, and chat 🙂
I think I spotted that incredibly angry person 😳 😢 It’s really not cool to act like that 😢

Lale, I don't know what Pank was thinking—arguing about this online instead of just settling it with fists 🤷 or maybe over a deep-dish pizza 🤷

Harold Wright54 said:unconscious capitalist segments

🙂 🙏

Yeah, well—screw the mosquitoes too, I guess. :2up:

Alex Scott22 said:Plus, trust me, you aren't exactly thinking about timing while you're up on stage.

I know it was a disaster... but where exactly were you watching the stage last night?😁

David Sullivan4 said:Look, I get that things were messy... but where exactly did you see a stage last night?😁

Give me a break.😠

In your head. Three levels, a ramp, smoke machines. And a big Pepsi sign sitting right on top.😳

Where are all the floor fans and those fire-breathing torches supposed to be sitting in front of the monitors? 🙂

Come on, post some pictures—I know you guys have them tucked away somewhere... 🙂

Kevin Chavez3 said:I honestly want to know why we were stuck waiting until 10:45 if the security guys promised we’d be wrapped up by 10:30... why didn't the opening band just kick off at 9:00? What was the hold-up? 🤷

It's because I spent the whole night trying to charm the venue manager into letting us stay until midnight before realizing it was a lost cause. Getting a permit past 10:00 PM is basically impossible here. I thought I was being clever and "negotiating" with the guy I handed the paperwork to, thinking he'd let us roll until midnight—total rookie mistake! Then some random tenth guy shows up, won't budge an inch, and just laughs in my face like, "Why the attitude? You win some, you lose some." 🙂

Kevin Chavez3 said:And man, WCIF acted a little bit uncool, I gotta admit... "Is it 10:15?" — "It's 10:25!" — "No, like, what time is it EXACTLY?" — "IT'S TEN TWENTY-FIVE, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!!!" — "Alright, alright, we'll take one more song..."

You guys are a great band, but you definitely lacked that punk rock solidarity there. 😢

No, no, no! Don't even go there with that talk!!! 😠 😠 😠
That was totally on me for not stepping in and shutting that down. My deepest apologies to WCIF, to Kayli, and to everyone who showed up—everyone deserved a chill hour without that back-and-forth. When I'm mid-set, I'm in my own world and have zero clue what time it is, believe me! Once again, sorry WCIF! 🙂
Just throw some more fuel on the fire at the local dive bar and I'll show up for a rehearsal or two, or however many it takes... 🙂.

🙂🙂

hollowseal33 said:forgetting about the concerts and our local police 😁 I just had fun, hung out, and chatted up everyone 🙂
I think I noticed that incredibly angry person 😳 😢 it’s really not cool to act like that 😢

Bravo!
Thanks, that was actually my whole point.
Okay, maybe leaving out the part about the cops—that was a total disaster. And hey, maybe if I had managed to fix a certain vibe... oops 😬
but whatever, lesson learned... next time I'll steer clear of the law. Honestly, I'd rather deal with a few days in jail for not reporting something than deal with them like that (since I doubt I'll have $5-$15 $0.00 floating in my pocket anyway), plus those uniforms just give me the creeps regardless... :2up:

Basically, my plan was to keep things going once they left, but then someone spread a rumor that riot police were coming to beat everyone down, so people panicked... and me? I felt so embarrassed by it all 🙈... I just didn't have the energy to pull everyone back toward a positive vibe again. I mean, I had the guts (not physically, obviously, but you get what I mean) to try... but I was just too exhausted to lead more people through that 🙂.. and right at that moment over on Main Street, there was this massive car accident and none of the officers even gave us a second thought anymore... we could have totally 😢

David Sullivan4 said:I know it was a mess... but honestly, where on earth were you seeing a stage last night? 😁

Ajax!
🙂
Man, why are you being so polite? It’s almost like you grew up at MTWj instead of out on the streets like the rest of us... like a little bit of gravel is just too much for you 😕. But hey, alright, fine! Next time I'll set the stage so high that everyone's necks will be snapping just trying to catch a glimpse of the stars (and I mean that literally, not sarcastically)! 🙂

Look, my bad... but there's definitely going to be a setup. 🙂
Personally, I thought this was actually pretty sweet—it's kind of charming how only the folks in the front row get the full view.

Take a break, lady 😲

The whole stage situation is a joke. You aren't the first group to think playing by the riverfront was a bright idea 😉

Wait, seriously?!
I had no idea...🙄

Man, I can't help messing around sometimes... let them be mad! :-)

I was actually 🙂 loving the vibe there—the road, the headlights, even those discarded tires on the shoulder...

I wouldn't suggest going quite that late 🙂
. 🙂Maybe finishing up around 10 PM would be perfect, and then we could head out for a little picnic afterward
.

What a stage—honestly, unreal.

I get the hype, I really do, but I’d still go with Gas Station Raid. That one was just way better, in my opinion. 🙂

so yesterday

but you're the one who said you could use emojis

yes