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10 Vitamins You Should Probably Avoid

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Bryan Sanders5 Bryan Sanders5 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Give this a look. It’s actually quite useful...

http://top10.saznaj.info/index.php/c...e/202-vitamini
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
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#2 ·
This title is completely mindless, and honestly, the article itself is just poorly written. Look, we all need vitamins, sure, but nobody needs nearly as much as these people claim you should be popping every single day. If you cut out even one essential vitamin, yeah, you'd probably drop dead, but that's not an excuse to overdo it.
Plus, half the stuff they listed in there isn't even a vitamin to begin with.
Jerry Phillips2 Jerry Phillips2 Member
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#3 ·
The information provided here is quite limited and honestly doesn't apply to most people out there. There seems to be this underlying assumption that when you consume nutrients through food, the absorption rate is naturally 100%, which is fundamentally incorrect if you ask me. I’ve personally known individuals who have reached a state of truly optimal health by significantly increasing their supplemental vitamin intake, whereas there are others who don't seem to need any extra help at all. It’s typical to see people citing a 90 mg daily dose of Vitamin C as the "recommended daily allowance," but that just isn't the full story; that amount is really only sufficient to prevent scurvy, rather than supporting the demands of a modern, active lifestyle.
So, it feels like these studies are, as per usual, heavily biased and overly averaged out. Honestly, it might be better to just look the other way. 👎
Robin Robinson8 Robin Robinson8 Newcomer
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#4 ·
This is honestly such nonsense—they claim iron is just some unnecessary mineral, yet they completely fail to mention who actually needs it. It’s pretty ridiculous, really. I deal with anemia myself, and tablets are basically the only way I can keep my levels steady. Just pointless!! 👎 😕 👎
Jerry Booth10 Jerry Booth10 Member
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#5 ·
Jerry Phillips2 said:The data provided is limited and frankly inapplicable to most people. The assumption that nutrient absorption from food is a perfect 100% efficiency is a fallacy. We see individuals who have achieved peak physiological health by significantly increasing their supplemental intake, while others require nothing at all. They typically cite 90 mg of Vitamin C as the "recommended daily dose." That is an absurdity; that amount is merely a baseline to prevent scurvy, not a target for maintaining vitality during actual daily activity.
Consequently, these studies are, as per usual, biased and over-averaged. It is better to look elsewhere. 👎

I recall reading somewhere that a daily dose of Vitamin C should actually be closer to 1000 mg. It’s such a volatile substance—it's constantly being depleted; light exposure breaks it down, and we flush it out through excretion. To me, that makes far more sense than this 90 mg nonsense, which feels like practically nothing. In this modern era, I find it hard to believe we get sufficient nutrients naturally. Even if someone eats plenty of produce, much of it is GMO, which in my view means the vitamin density isn't what it used to be. Add in the constant stress and the frantic pace of life today, and our reserves are drained even faster. While I try to eat my fruits and vegetables, I don't necessarily do so every single day, so I rely on supplements to ensure I am hitting the exact dosage my body requires.
Emily Rogers63 Emily Rogers63 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Wow, you guys really went to town trashing his choice of article...🙄 👎talk about being rude
Jerry Phillips2 Jerry Phillips2 Member
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#7 ·
Sandra Martin72 said:I remember reading somewhere that a daily dose of Vitamin C should really be around 1000 mg, mostly because the body flushes it out so easily and everything living seems to deplete it—light exposure, the way we process it, you know... it just makes sense to me. That 90 mg figure feels like absolutely nothing, and honestly, in this modern world, I find it hard to believe we’re getting nearly enough of anything through food alone. Even if someone is diligent about eating their fruits and vegetables, there’s my personal take: so much of what we find now is genetically modified, which I suspect means the nutrient density isn't quite what it used to be. Plus, between the constant stress and the sheer frantic pace of life today, our bodies just burn through resources so quickly. So, while I do try to eat my greens, I find myself reaching for supplements more often lately; it just gives me that peace of mind knowing I've actually hit the specific dosage my body requires each day.

There is some truth to that perspective. Personally, I tend to supplement with somewhere between 500 and 1500 mg of extra Vitamin C every single day, and I can't say I've been sick in ages. Since it's water-soluble, you just flush out the excess, so there aren't really any major downsides for most people. I used to catch a cold four or five times a year, but nowadays, I barely even deal with a runny nose.

My brother, who works as a chemist, always points out how vital Ascorbic Acid is to our physiological processes, though he does caution against taking massive amounts that might mess with the stomach's pH balance—though we're talking about doses exceeding 100 grams a day, which is an extreme amount.

Regardless, I've always felt it's better to opt for more natural forms of vitamins, simply because the gut tends to absorb those much more efficiently than synthetic tablets. Besides, multivitamins can sometimes feel a bit heavy on the system.
In my view, the sweet spot is eating moderate amounts of fresh produce and using supplements to bridge the gaps. If you follow the standard dietary guidelines suggested by the Mayo Clinic, you might still find yourself running low on Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and Vitamin E. Everything else usually stays pretty balanced. One thing to keep in mind, though, is not to overdo it on heavy, greasy foods or excessive whole grains, as both can really overwork the digestive system, making it harder for your body to properly absorb the nutrients from your fruits and vegetables.
Jerry Phillips2 Jerry Phillips2 Member
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#8 ·
Emily Rogers63 said:And what on earth were you all spitting on regarding his choice of article...🙄 👎as if it dictates how someone should behave.

I suppose that's because the article itself isn't particularly useful; it’s just quite limited in scope. At the end of the day, a person has every right to read whatever they please, but honestly, most pieces you find in an American newspaper tend to be exactly like that—narrowly focused and, more often than not, rather inaccurate.
Jamie Edwards32 Jamie Edwards32 Newcomer
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#9 ·
I mean, I've heard some pretty ridiculous stuff in my time, but this? This might actually take the cake.
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
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#10 ·
Emily Rogers63 said:So you're just going to bash a guy's choice of articles...🙄 👎instead of looking at how he actually acts.

The guy is a blatant spammer. He signs up and immediately drops three posts that all point back to http://saznaj.info.

After that, he just vanishes. It's classic spam behavior. There's no sense in getting hung up on polite formalities here. He flies into the forum just to kick off mindless threads advertising junk.
loneviper18 loneviper18 Newcomer
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#11 ·
😕 Lately, I keep seeing ads popping up all over my feed basically admitting that certain vitamins are pretty much useless. Honestly, I’m not surprised... But why is that?
It’s because clinical studies conducted on synthetic vitamins tend to show they don't do much. They aren't looking at the stuff that’s actually bio-synergistic or derived from real, natural sources.

Just take a second to look at the ingredient list and decide if you're buying synthetic junk or actual natural stuff. If it’s synthetic, just toss it back on the shelf—you're literally just flushing money down the drain.

Trust me, you’ll never see a label out there screaming, "Hey, these are synthetic vitamins!"

Here’s some examples of those synthetic ingredients:
• Additives: Glucose, Sucrose, Starch, Microcrystalline Cellulose
• Dyes: FD&C Blue #2 Lake, or FD&C Red 40
• Preservatives: sorbates (like Polysorbate 80), benzoates (like sodium benzoate), nitrites (like sodium nitrite), sulphites (like Sulfur Dioxide)

Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Phosphate, Magnesium Oxide, Chloride, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Gelatin, Starch, DL-tocopheryl acetate (Vitamin E), Crospovidone, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Niacinamide, Zinc Oxide, Calcium Pantothenate, Glucose, Silicon Dioxide, Titanium Dioxide, Manganese sulfate, Magnesium Stearate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Sucrose, Cupric Oxide, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Beta Carotene, Triethyl citrate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Vitamin A, Vitamin D, Lactose, Polysorbate 80, Chromium Chloride, Borates, Folic Acid, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Molybdate, Sodium Selenate, Biotin, Cyanocobalamin (Vitamin B12),

Your vitamins are only actually doing something for you if they come packaged with fruit or vegetable components;
For instance;

If it says “Vitamin C (from oranges),” it means the Vitamin C is in its natural state alongside the nutrients found in real fruit, rather than just being isolated Vitamin C. Or if it says “Vitamin A (100% as Beta Carotene from Dunaliella),” it means Dunaliella is the source of that Vitamin A.

If you don't see any mention of natural ingredients on the label, then yeah, they're 100% synthetic.
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
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#12 ·
loneviper18 said:😕 Lately, I keep seeing ads online basically confirming that some vitamins are totally useless. I believe it... But why?
It’s because clinical studies often focus on synthetic vitamins rather than those that are biologically synergistic or derived from whole food sources.

Just look at the ingredient list and decide for yourself if it's synthetic or natural. If it's all synthetics, toss it—you're just flushing money down the toilet.

Trust me, you won't find an ad out there saying, "Hey, these are synthetic vitamins."

Examples of Synthetic Ingredients:
• Additives: Glucose, Sucrose, Starch, Microcrystalline Cellulose
• Dyes: FD&C Blue #2 Lake, or FD&C Red 40
• Preservatives: sorbates (e.g., Polysorbate 80), benzoates (e.g., sodium benzoate), nitrites (e.g., sodium nitrite), sulphites (e.g., sulfur dioxide)

Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Phosphate, Magnesium Oxide, Potassium Chloride, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Gelatin, Starch, DL-tocopheryl acetate (Vitamin E), Crospovidone, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Niacinamide, Zinc Oxide, Calcium Pantothenate, Glucose, Silicon Dioxide, Titanium Dioxide, Manganese sulfate, Magnesium Stearate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Sucrose, Cupric Oxide, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Beta Carotene, Triethyl citrate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Vitamin A, Vitamin D, Lactose, Polysorbate 80, Chromium Chloride, Borates, Folic Acid, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Molybdate, Sodium Selenate, Biotin, Cyanocobalamin (Vitamin B12),

Your vitamins are only actually useful if they come paired with fruit or vegetable components;
For instance;

“Vitamin C (from orange)” means the Vitamin C is in its natural state alongside the actual nutrients found in fruit, not just isolated Vitamin C. “Vitamin A (100% as beta Carotene from Dunaliella)” — that means Dunaliella is the source of the Vitamin A.

If you don't see any natural ingredients listed, then they are 100% synthetic.

Did you register just to tell us this? 🙄
Good grief, what nonsense.

A vitamin, whether it's extracted from a plant or synthesized in a lab, is identical. It's a molecule.

The terms "synthetic" and "natural" refer to how the substance was obtained, not the molecules themselves. They are the same thing; they don't carry some "artificial" or "natural" label. There isn't some magical "force" marking them. Your body might absorb a vitamin more easily if you get it from a piece of fruit rather than a pill, sure. But a pill usually has much higher concentrations than a single piece of fruit. You really need both.
In tablets, you might find tiny amounts of inactive molecular isomers, but even those are strictly regulated.

As for the other chemicals you listed, it sounds like you have no idea what a chemical actually is.

I'll break down how "artificial" each one actually is for you:

glucose - glucose, you have this in your bloodstream right now.
sucrose - sucrose, plain old sugar.
starch - starch, you eat this every single day.
microcrystalline cellulose - processed cellulose, which is found in every plant on Earth.
Dyes, FD&C Blue #2 Lake, or FD&C Red 40 - common food dyes used in tiny amounts.
sorbates (e.g., Polysorbate 80) - these are found in plants as a way to protect themselves from microorganisms.
benzoates (like sodium benzoate) - you'll find this stuff in apples
nitrites (like sodium nitrite) - they're present in the soil, but if you're loading up on them, you're basically forcing your body to deal with carcinogenic nitrosamines
sulphites (like sulphur dioxide) - same deal as the nitrites

Calcium Carbonate - CHALK! 😵
Calcium Phosphate - BONE MATERIAL!
Magnesium Oxide - 🤣
Potassium Chloride - potassium and chloride ions are right there in your blood. Your whole life depends on them.
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) - a staple in every single citrus fruit
Gelatin - gelatin
DL-tocopheryl acetate (Vitamin E) - 🤣
Crospovidone - just a completely inert polymer

... I could honestly go on about this until tomorrow. You clearly haven't a clue what you're talking about. You're just spreading misinformation.
loneviper18 loneviper18 Newcomer
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#13 ·
If you want your body to actually absorb synthetic vitamins at a cellular level, they’ve gotta be paired up with natural ingredients.
The end of the Price game is near 🙂

You're pretty sharp, Styler, but you're clearly Confused 🤷
stormyheron4 stormyheron4 Active Member
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#14 ·
loneviper18 said:Synthetic vitamins have to be paired with natural ingredients if you want your cells to actually absorb them.
That's just a little Price joke for you. 🙂

You're pretty smart, Styler, but you're definitely Confused. 🤷

So apparently there's a massive difference between natural and synthetic vitamins. I've heard the rumor that synthetic ones are useless without natural components, but I was chatting with a pro working in pharmacology recently and they told me straight up: that's just not true.
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
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#15 ·
loneviper18 said:Synthetic vitamins have to be linked to natural ingredients if you want the body to actually utilize them at a cellular level.
At the end of the day, it’s just a little Price 🙂

You're a real genius, Styler, but you're clearly Confused oprostiti 🤷

Sorry, but that's just total nonsense.
Calling something a "synthetic vitamin" versus a "natural vitamin" describes how the product is categorized, not its actual chemical makeup.

Take a look at these images of thiamine (B1) link
It is IDENTICAL whether you get it from a steak or a supplement. It's the thiamine molecule. There isn't some magical "natural energy" signature attached to it. I see where you're coming from, bird, but you're missing the point entirely. 🙂

And I guess you aren't going to address the fact that you clearly have no clue what constitutes a toxic, dangerous substance—like, say, Calcium Carbonate, aka limestone... 🙄

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