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What's the most important ingredient in music?

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Jonathan Ramirez6 Jonathan Ramirez6 NewcomerOP
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joined Apr 2008
#1 ·
So, what is it actually that makes music worth listening to, admiring, or obsessing over?
What’s that one magic ingredient that, if missing, would make a track lose its "soul"?
I know a great song usually comes down to a specific blend of desirable
qualities, but I want to know if you can isolate just one or two core elements. What is it you look for when trying to find more tracks that possess that exact thing you love?
Peter Ross61 Peter Ross61 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2008
#2 ·
I don't believe such a thing exists.
Every single song, every album, and every artist or band possesses its own unique essence that defines them. Therefore, I find it hard to argue that there is some universal "magic" present in all music.
Sean Patel4 Sean Patel4 Member
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joined May 2009
#3 ·
energy 🙂
Chloe Smith11 Chloe Smith11 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#4 ·
I suppose I’ve always been more of a sucker for a solid melody, regardless of whether it's some catchy pop tune, an electronic track, or even heavy death metal. I guess you could say my taste is pretty much all over the place. On the other hand, lyrics don't tend to carry much weight for me; back in high school, I don't think I ever really cared about what a poet or a songwriter was actually trying to convey.
Pinpointing just one specific thing is quite difficult, though maybe I’d have to go with Coldplay - Yellow. That melody is absolutely infectious; from about 2002 to 2004, I think it was playing on a loop in my head almost every single day.
wanderingraven20 wanderingraven20 Newcomer
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#5 ·
For me, it all comes down to the singer's charisma 🙏

If the vocalist sucks, the whole track is garbage ☕

And if there isn't even a singer? Then you're just listening to instrumentals—like some techno loop or classical stuff—which, let's be real, just isn't good music 🤮
Michelle Sanchez3 Michelle Sanchez3 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2009
#6 ·
wanderingraven20 said:for me, the singer's charisma is really the most vital element 🙏

I suppose if the vocalist isn't quite right, then the music itself won't feel right either, ☕

and if there isn't even a singer involved, then you're just left with instrumentals, maybe some techno or classical pieces, which I don't particularly consider to be great music, 🤮

you're almost driving me crazy 🙏 🙏 🙏 even though I might not entirely agree with your final point, 🤮

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placidnomad50 placidnomad50 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#7 ·
The lyrics are sitting right there in front of the music ☕
amberskipper452 amberskipper452 Newcomer
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#8 ·
A decent beard matters too, I suppose 🙂 ..and there's certainly nothing wrong with a short skirt 🙂
boldscout72 boldscout72 Newcomer
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#9 ·
amberskipper452 said:..and honestly, a short skirt isn't doing any harm either...

I was actually just about to mention—that's precisely my main point. 😍
Richard Thompson33 Richard Thompson33 Active Member
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#10 ·
The melody or the rhythm that makes you sway, groove, move, or just toss yourself off a bridge...
The lyrics where I’m basically speaking through someone else’s mouth

And one spoonful of Maggi seasoning

There’s actually one more category that sits entirely outside the rules and can't really be judged
That is when/if I tie something emotionally to a specific person or thing
In which case, every single rule goes right out the window...
Emily Chavez31 Emily Chavez31 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#11 ·
It’s all about the drum beat for me. And those smooth transitions when the key shifts? That's where the magic happens. Everything else is just background noise.
Jack Scott64 Jack Scott64 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2008
#12 ·
Initially, the melody has to catch my ear first; only then do I find myself paying closer attention to the lyrics. To me, the melody is the core element—it’s what truly needs to strike a chord with my soul.
Of course, everything is contingent upon one's current state of mind. The rhythm is equally vital. It is a difficult question to answer definitively...
rowdyridge3 rowdyridge3 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#13 ·
Megan Rodriguez44 said:It’s either the melody or the beat that gets you moving—swaying, grooving, shaking, or just tossing yourself off a bridge or something.
The lyrics to "When I Speak Through Someone Else's Mouth"

And just one teaspoon of Maggi seasoning.

There's another category here that's completely off the charts—it's outside the scope and can't even be scored.
And that's because I'm emotionally attached to someone or something.
And every single law just goes down the drain anyway.

I couldn't agree with you more!!!!!!!

Anyway...
Beautiful melody, pure romance, great lyrics...😍 Once someone charms you with songs like that, you end up loving everything about them. That’s exactly how I fell for Belinda Carlisle.😳 She hooked me with those sweet love songs, but now I find myself listening to her entire discography.😍😳🙏
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#14 ·
wanderingraven20 said:At the end of the day, it all comes down to the singer's charisma. That’s what actually matters to me. 🙏

If the singer is no good, then the music just isn't any good either. Period. ☕

If there isn't a vocalist involved, you're just left with instrumentals—whether it’s techno or classical—and honestly, I don't consider that real music. 🤮

So, what you're basically saying is, "I'm shallow and I don't have an ounce of musical taste." 😁
Alright, I'm assuming you're just messing with me.

Everything matters when it comes to music, but if I really have to pin it down to one thing, it’s gotta be the melody.
rowdyridge3 rowdyridge3 Member
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#15 ·
James Kelly said:Basically, you're saying "I'm shallow and have zero musical taste."😁
Alright, I'm assuming you're just messing with me.

Everything matters when it comes to music, but if I had to pick one thing, it's gotta be the melody.

You're spot on. I have this friend who decides she doesn't like someone based on looks alone, and then automatically assumes anything they've recorded is garbage. When I finally forced her to actually listen to some stuff, she admitted she liked it—but getting her to listen to her own music is still an uphill battle.🙄🙄🙄🙄
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#16 ·
rowdyridge3 said:You're totally right! I have this friend who decides she hates someone just based on their looks, and suddenly everything that person ever recorded is garbage. Once I finally forced her to actually listen to some tracks, she admitted she liked them, but getting her to sit through anything by that artist is still an uphill battle.🙄🙄 🙄 🙄

Yeah, typical. Some people should just grab a photo of anyone they find attractive, hang it on their wall, and stare at it if they think music doesn't matter. As if looks actually dictate the quality of the sound. Play her Dvorak's New World Symphony, for example, and she'll just be sitting there confused because she has no clue what Dvorak looks like... honestly, what a joke. 🙄
rowdyridge3 rowdyridge3 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#17 ·
Exactly😂

Sure, looks matter when you're making music videos—beauty is subjective, obviously, but let's be real: a pretty face helps sell the vibe. But then again, there are plenty of tracks out there that never even got a video...
Kimberly Rodriguez5 Kimberly Rodriguez5 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Look, I’m telling you, it’s pretty simple. At the end of the day, quality is everything. It applies to every single genre out there, really. If you look at all the absolute garbage being pumped out right now—whether it's that mindless pop, half-baked rap, or even some of that overproduced heavy metal—you just won't find any actual substance or craft in that trash.
rowdyridge3 rowdyridge3 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#19 ·
Yeah, but what really gets me is when someone—especially a singer—has everything going for them. Great voice, great lyrics, catchy melodies, looks to die for... and then some idiot decides they just have to start a war over her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydw5qIycHE0
Look at the people trashing this video. Come on, guys, tell me she isn't stunning. Especially in this part...😍😍😍😍😍
ruggedpanther64 ruggedpanther64 Member
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joined Aug 2007
#20 ·
The energy within the vocal performance, combined with the overall arrangement,

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