The Armada

Everyone’s got an opinion, and most of them are garbage

Look, I’ve got nothing but respect for the die-hard fans, but honestly? I still think they need to put in a whole lot more work if they ever want to catch up to us, even if they have been playing pretty damn well this season.

The Navy sat down for a chat with the players:

Mark Wilson72 said:Can someone give me an objective count of how many people are actually in the cup here?

There are roughly 150 folks in the cup itself. However, if you factor in the veteran Navy supporters who typically don't crowd the stands and tend to be a bit more reserved with their cheering, the total number is significantly higher.

Honestly, I feel like the Navy's visual setup is looking pretty rough right now. If you want to use the local fan slang, they’re basically just "tacking random rags onto the fence." I guess they really ought to put a bit more effort into the aesthetics and work on that.

Joshua Lopez13 said:Honestly, the Navy’s visual game is pretty weak right now. Or, if you want the fan slang version: they’re just "tacking random rags onto the fence." They really need to step up their design game.

Come on, don't talk nonsense. The banners and the pole flags are actually top-tier—it's everything else that went totally south. Don't forget that the Navy was doing small banners and pole flags long before Torac or BBB ever thought of it—though, I suppose, that doesn't exactly excuse how messy things look today.

Joshua Lopez13 said:Honestly, the Navy's visual presence is pretty weak. To use supporter slang: they’re just "tacking random rags onto the fence." They really need to put more work into that aspect.

In my opinion, there needs to be a bit of chaos in the stands—even when it comes to the trans banners—rather than everyone being so perfectly polished... that feels artificial to me.
The only thing that actually needs attention visually is the choreo.

Look, I never actually said everything had to be aesthetically flawless, and honestly, I’m probably not even well-versed enough to know if any local Navy groups were making moves before the Torac or BBB eras. Not that the historical context really matters much to me, I suppose. My point was just that I’m not a fan of the protest signs—the design, the quality, all of it. I mean, for heaven's sake, it isn't exactly rocket science to whip up a decent banner these days; if nothing else, you could just grab the board members by the collar and make them pay for it 😉. When it comes to the stands, you really need to get some creative minds involved, because let's face it, not everyone has an eye for this kind of stuff.

Joshua Lopez13 said:Look, I never said everything had to be a damn masterpiece. And honestly, I’m not even deep enough into the scene to know if the Navy was actually doing anything significant before the Torac and BBB eras. Not that the historical context really matters to me anyway. My point was just that the banners look cheap—the design is lazy and the quality is garbage. I mean, for crying out loud, it’s not like making a decent banner is rocket science in this day and age. If they can't get it right, they should just grab the board of directors by the wallet and force them to pay up. 😉Look, if we're actually going to make this forum worth anyone's time, we need to bring in some creative minds. Not everyone can just grind away at the same repetitive tasks all day.

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Terry Lee3 said:I can't see the image you're trying to share, man. If you want me to take a look at it and give you my two cents, you'll have to try uploading it again. I'm sitting here ready to weigh in, but right now I've just got a blank screen. Give it another shot.

Look, everyone in the Navy feels pretty bad that you've got such a negative take on these two heavy hitters in the photo, especially since they were only just released.😢 😁 🤣

Joshua Lopez13 said:To be fair, the Navy looks terrible visually. Or, to use supporter slang: they’re just hanging random rags on the fence. They really need to step up their game.

Right, because you people are clearly the ultimate authorities on banner design.🙄
Just some 4c, two eagles, and "Russians and Mexicans."🙄
The hyenas have a few decent ones, but everything else is awful—nowhere near the level of BBB or Torac. Honestly, your entire scene is lacking when it comes to banners. But since that isn't exactly a major benchmark, there's no reason to get upset at my comment; it's just my personal take on things.

Joshua Lopez13 said:Honestly, the Navy's look is just rough. To put it in fan speak: they’re basically just pinning random rags to the fence. They really need to step up their game on the aesthetics.

Man, you should probably keep your mouth shut. Your own setup looks terrible—those massive 60-foot tarps and banners scattered all over the place? Please... worry about your own backyard first.

Paul Taylor2 said:Maybe you should just stay quiet. Your own fence looks like a disaster zone—all those 60-foot tarps and plastic sheets scattered everywhere... please. Look at your own yard before judging anyone else...

😕idiots?

Joshua Lopez13 said:Look, I never claimed everything needs to be aesthetically flawless, nor am I claiming to know enough about whether the Navy was active here prior to Torac or BBB. Honestly, that historical context doesn't interest me. My point was simply that I don't care for the banners, nor their quality. Seriously, it’s not exactly difficult to produce a decent banner these days, unless you're just letting the board take you for a ride 😉. For the stands, it's vital to involve creative people; not everyone can handle the design work.

That bolded part nearly brought a tear to my eye...😁
What is wrong with you? Just tell us how you consult with designers on the banners, since not everyone can fight, so what is this? What kind of logic is this? Of course, forget (forgive my language) a group like that—their actions, their cheering, their numbers—just because their banners aren't to your liking or if the colors don't match perfectly...
Why don't you write down for us exactly how many banners we need, what dimensions they should be based on different subgroups, neighborhoods, cities, or the main group? Or how many different colors can be used on one banner?
People are overthinking the look of the stands; if this is really about "occupying" the space, then I would be asking questions from their perspective.

hiddennomad42 said:😕thugs?

They already swapped him out for Torac the second time around; looks like they're getting paranoid about some avatar...😁

Frank Gomez31 said:Honestly, I think there needs to be a little bit of chaos in the stands. Even when it comes to stuff like trans issues—if everyone is just sitting there being perfectly polite and quiet, it feels totally fake.
The only thing you really need to watch out for visually is the choreo.

What do you guys think of this shot?
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6...0finalekul.jpg

Yeah, they think it’s a joke because the North Stand looks just like the one at SoFi Stadium.
The choreography is basically a carbon copy of what we saw during the rivalry game...
And honestly, looking at that Navy barricade—that setup with the heavy-duty tarp over the Rijekas looks incredible!

My point is that people focus far too much on how the stands look, when there are much more important things at stake... A group of fifty people can put together a beautiful choreo and wave flags and display images, and the comments will be great, but it's all just for show 😉

Frank Gomez31 said:@Paul Taylor2/">@@Paul Taylor2, since the photo is tiny, there isn't much to actually see here. My point is that people focus way too much on how the stands look. Other things matter more... even a group of 50 people can put together a decent choreo or some flags and post photos to get great comments, but at the end of the day, it’s just an image. 😉

Take a company in Mexico, for instance. In just a few years, they swapped out all their banners for these cartoonish, flawless designs. Personally, I couldn't care less.
To me, the history of the banners is what matters, not the aesthetics.
For example, a couple of our own banners have been remade recently, but they were made to look identical to the originals from years ago.
It's about tradition and history, not following some fleeting fashion trend...

hiddennomad42 said:Take a company over in Mexico, for instance; they swapped out all their transit buses in just a few years for these cartoonish, flawless models. Honestly, I couldn't care less.
For me, the history of the bus is what matters, not how pretty it looks.
A few of our local buses have been rebuilt recently, but they were made to look exactly like the originals.
It's about tradition and heritage, not chasing trends.

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That’s the part the younger generation doesn't quite grasp. They don't understand that a bus—forgive my language—isn't worth much if, after a few years on the road, it doesn't have those dents from the torches, the grease stains, or the spilled soda and stories of everywhere it's been. It's funny to me when people criticize an old bus, claiming it doesn't "fit" anymore or suggesting we should build smaller, sleeker models based on today's templates. The irony is that the very people making those comments probably haven't even stepped foot on one during a real rush hour.

Paul Taylor2 said:Here is the link to the photo mentioned above:

Thanks for the link. 😉
The protesters are fine, but I think there are far too many of those light blue flags everywhere. They aren't bad per se, but to me, the idea of making every single flag identical feels a bit mindless...