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Am I making a mistake choosing between these two laptops? Need help!

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lonejackal6 lonejackal6 MemberOP
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#1 ·
So, here’s the thing—I was originally eyeing this specific laptop for purchase:

I was browsing through some hardware listings online today, specifically looking at a laptop that caught my eye, and I couldn't help but reflect on how much the entry-level market has shifted over the years. It’s one of those machines that looks perfectly functional for basic daily tasks—you know, the kind of thing you grab for a coffee shop session or just to keep the household running smoothly. Looking at the specs, it’s a very standard setup. We're talking about an Intel Core i3 paired with Standard Laptop Specs. For anyone who isn't a power user, that's usually more than enough for checking emails, streaming some Netflix, or getting through a few spreadsheets. It comes running Windows 8.1, which feels a bit nostalgic, doesn't it? It reminds me of the days when we weren't constantly being nudged to update to the latest OS version every five minutes. The storage is a 500 GB SATA 5400 RPM drive, which is pretty typical for this tier, though I always find myself wishing for an SSD these days for that extra snappiness. It features Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0, so connectivity shouldn't be an issue if you're trying to sync up your peripherals. It also boasts Dolby Audio, which is always a nice little touch for watching videos. It’s powered by a 32Wh Battery, and while it won't win any marathons, it should get you through a decent stretch of work. The build includes an ASUS Keyboard, which generally provides a reliable typing experience. It really makes you think about how much "enough" has changed. Back in the day, we would have been thrilled with half of this. Now, we've become quite spoiled by high-end workstations. Still, for a casual user or a student on a budget, there is a certain quiet dignity in a machine that simply does what it's supposed to do without any unnecessary bells and whistles. It’s reliable, straightforward, and gets the job done.

Here are the technical specifications:

The LCD cover features a white finish with an IMR decoration.
The top case features a White-IMR finish, which gives it a really clean, polished look.
Under the hood, this machine is running an Intel Core i3 processor, which handles its basic tasks quite reliably.
The operating system comes as Free DOS, which means you won't find Windows pre-installed right out of the box. You'll likely want to grab a license for Windows 10 or maybe even Windows 11 once you get it set up, depending on what you're planning to do with the machine. It gives you a bit of a blank slate to work with if you prefer installing a specific version of Linux or just want to handle the Windows installation yourself from scratch.
I was looking over the specs again, and I noticed that we're dealing with 4GB of RAM. Honestly, in this day and age, that feels a bit lean, doesn't it? It reminds me of when I first started working in IT back in the early 2000s—we used to think 512MB was plenty, and look how quickly that became obsolete. While it might get you through basic tasks, you'll definitely feel the squeeze if you try to run too many applications at once.
I’ve been looking into upgrading my current setup, but I’ve hit a bit of a roadblock. It seems that increasing the memory isn't an option for this particular model. It’s a bit frustrating, honestly. I remember back when I first started working on computers, you could practically swap out any component with a screwdriver and a little patience. Nowadays, everything feels so integrated and sealed off. It reminds me of those old modular synthesizers—once you realize the architecture is fixed, you just have to work within the constraints you were given. Does anyone here have experience dealing with hardware that has soldered components or non-expandable slots? I'm trying to figure out if there's any workaround to improve performance, though I suspect I might just be headed toward a new purchase instead.
Standard Laptop Specs
Standard Laptop Specs
The screen setup on this unit is a 15.6-inch LED backlit display. It’s a slim profile with a brightness rating of 200 nits, featuring an HD resolution of 1366x768 at a 16:9 aspect ratio. Just a heads-up for anyone planning to work near a window: it does have a glare finish.
When you're looking at external video display options, specifically through an HDMI 1.4 port, there's quite a bit to consider regarding how it handles different resolutions and refresh rates. It’s one of those things that seems straightforward on paper until you actually try to hook up a high-end monitor or a 4K TV and realize the bandwidth limitations. While HDMI 1.4 was a significant step forward back in the day, it does have its quirks when you're trying to push modern displays to their full potential.
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I was just looking over the specs for this unit, specifically the integrated graphics. It’s running on an Intel HD Graphics 4000. It's nothing groundbreaking, of course, but for basic daily tasks, it gets the job done well enough.
The built-in video setup is just a standard VGA webcam, fixed in place. It gets the job done for a quick video call, but don't expect anything fancy.
It features standard Wi-Fi connectivity along with Bluetooth 4.0.
The Ethernet port on this machine is limited to 10/100 Mbps speeds. It's definitely nothing to write home about if you're used to modern high-speed connections, but I suppose it gets the job done for basic tasks.
The card reader on this unit is pretty limited—it only supports SD cards.
It features one single USB 2.0 port.
It features one USB 3.0 port.
The interface features a single combo jack that handles both your headphone output and audio input.
Just a quick heads-up for anyone looking at the ports on this machine: it comes equipped with one RJ45 LAN jack for your wired network connection.
It comes equipped with one VGA port (D-Sub) for your video connections.
It comes equipped with one HDMI port.
Regarding the audio setup, you're looking at built-in speakers.
I’ve been looking over the specs again, specifically regarding the built-in microphone. It’s one of those small details that people often overlook when they're scanning through a spec sheet, but once you actually start using the device for Zoom calls or even just quick voice memos, you realize how much it matters. I remember back when I was working out of a small studio in Seattle, I used a laptop with a subpar mic, and let me tell you, trying to sound professional during client meetings while the hardware was picking up every single hum from the air conditioner was an absolute nightmare. You really do get what you pay for in these instances.
The device features Dolby Audio and weighs in at about 3.6 pounds when you aren't counting the battery.
It weighs in at about 4.1 pounds, assuming you're running it with the standard 32Wh Battery.
The physical dimensions for this unit are roughly 15.1 inches wide by 10.2 inches deep, with a slim profile sitting at just about 0.87 inches high.
The power supply unit included here is a 33W AC Adapter.
Power specs for this unit are 19V DC at 1.75A, giving us a 33W output. For the input side, it’s a standard universal setup that handles 100-240V AC at 50/60 Hz, so you shouldn't have any trouble plugging it in anywhere in the States.
The battery setup is a 32Wh Battery, featuring a 2S1P configuration with a 2-cell Li-ion Prismatic Laptop Keyboard.
The keyboard on this model features a Chiclet style.
The keyboard setup on this model features an ASUS Keyboard with a 19mm full-size key pitch, and it even includes an integrated numeric keypad for those of us who still find themselves crunching numbers all day.

In the end, I let the salesperson talk me into picking up this laptop:

I was browsing through some tech listings online earlier today—just one of those rabbit holes you fall into when you're supposed to be working on other things—and I stumbled upon this specific laptop configuration. It’s one of those entry-level machines that you see popping up everywhere in big-box retailers like Best Buy or Walmart. Looking at the specs, it’s a very standard setup for someone who just needs to get through some basic tasks without much fuss. We're looking at an Intel Core i3 processor paired with Standard Laptop Specs. It’s nothing that's going to win any speed races, but for checking emails or scrolling through news sites, it does the job. It also features NVIDIA GeForce graphics, which is a nice little step up from the bare minimum if you're doing light media work. The storage situation is pretty traditional too—a 500 GB hard drive. While we all know the world has moved toward SSDs for that snappy feel, there's still a certain reliability to a spinning disk for bulk storage, though it won't be breaking any land speed records during boot-up. It comes running Windows 8.1, which feels a bit like stepping back in time, doesn't it? Most of us have long since migrated to Windows 10, but sometimes you find these older stock items lingering in the corners of the internet. It’s got Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0, so connectivity shouldn't be an issue for your peripherals. It also boasts Dolby Audio, which is always a pleasant surprise in this price bracket; usually, the speakers on these budget models sound like they're coming through a tin can, so having a bit of decent audio processing is a plus. Overall, it’s a modest little machine. If you're a student or just need something for the kitchen counter to manage grocery lists and recipes, it's a sensible choice. Just don't expect it to handle heavy video editing or high-end gaming. It’s built for the steady, quiet life.

Here are the technical specifications:

I’ve been spending some time looking over the specs for this Dell Aspire ES1-520. It features a 15.6" display with a resolution of 1366x768. It's a fairly straightforward little machine, though I find myself wondering how it holds up under a heavy workload compared to more modern builds.
Processor: Intel Core i3 (1.50GHz)
Standard Laptop Specs,
1TB capacity.
DVD-SM,
The graphics situation here is running on an NVIDIA GeForce.
BT,
I was looking through my setup the other day, trying to get everything connected properly, and it got me thinking about HDMI cables. It seems like such a simple thing—just a cord to plug in—but if you aren't careful about which one you grab, you can end up with all sorts of headaches regarding resolution or signal stability. It’s one of those little details that most people overlook until they’re staring at a flickering screen halfway through a movie.
I was just sitting here thinking about how much we take our connectivity for granted these days. It’s funny, isn't it? You spend half your life worrying if the Wi-Fi signal is going to reach the back corner of the living room or if it's going to drop right when you're in the middle of something important. I remember back in the day, setting up a home network felt like a massive technical undertaking, almost like trying to wire an entire office building. Now, we just expect it to work seamlessly. But even with all the advancements in modern routers, there's still that lingering anxiety about dead zones or interference from the neighbor's setup. It really makes you appreciate the invisible threads that hold our digital lives together.
I was just sitting here thinking about how much our expectations for data transfer speeds have shifted over the years. It feels like just yesterday we were all celebrating the jump from USB 2.0 to USB 3.0, feeling like we finally had some breathing room for moving files around. Now, it seems almost quaint, doesn't it? Still, when you're dealing with large backups or transferring high-res photos, that extra bandwidth makes a world of difference. It’s one of those little technical evolutions that most people take for granted until they try to go back to the old way and realize just how much time they're wasting.
I was thinking about my old setup earlier today—it’s funny how much technology changes when you aren't looking. I was recently staring at my current webcam and realized just how much we take for granted these days. It reminds me of back in the day when everything felt so much more clunky and manual. You’d spend half your time just trying to get a clear picture before a meeting even started! Nowadays, everything is just plug-and-play, which is a blessing, but sometimes I miss that sense of tinkering with things to get them "just right." Anyway, I suppose I was just rambling. Does anyone else find themselves getting distracted by these little hardware details?
I’ve been spending quite a bit of time lately reflecting on my computing habits, specifically regarding operating systems. There is something fundamentally different about using Linux compared to the more standard Windows environments we are all so accustomed to in our daily lives here in the States. It’s a bit like choosing between a pre-built, polished sedan from a major manufacturer and actually getting under the hood of a vintage muscle car to tinker with the engine yourself. One offers seamless convenience, while the other offers a sense of true ownership and control over every single nut and bolt. Of course, for most people working in an office setting, sticking with Windows is the path of least resistance—especially when you need that seamless integration with Microsoft Office. But for those of us who enjoy a bit of a deep dive into how things actually work, there is a certain quiet satisfaction in the open-source philosophy. It’s a much more deliberate way of interacting with technology.

That's all there is to it.

Am I losing my mind here? I’m starting to wonder if I've been played. This laptop feels incredibly slow—and honestly, I can't tell if I just got stuck with an underpowered machine or if I completely botched the Windows 8.1 installation. The thing is, I actually bought this second unit because I was convinced it would be a significant upgrade. I was told it had a much better processor, which is exactly why I pulled the trigger on it. But now? It's sluggish. I've gone through the setup process multiple times, making sure everything was done by the book, but the performance just isn't there. Is it me? Did I mess up the OS install, or did I just get sold a lemon?

I find myself wondering if I should clarify this more thoroughly, as there seems to be some genuine uncertainty regarding these two machines. Is this second laptop truly an upgrade over the first one? Specifically, when we look at the processor, is it actually going to provide a noticeable boost in speed during daily tasks? I would truly appreciate it if someone could weigh in and give me a definitive answer on this.

If I really did get played here, do I actually have the right to return this laptop and swap it out for the other one? I’d really appreciate an answer, specifically regarding the processor comparison between these two machines and how they stack up in terms of actual speed. To be honest, I can't shake the feeling that the laptop I picked up is just sluggish. It’s those little things that get to you—for instance, when I click to open a basic folder, there’s this noticeable lag, like it takes a second or even a second and a half just to respond. It seems like such a minor task, yet the delay is definitely there, and it’s driving me a bit crazy.

Just a quick side note regarding my requirements: if anyone was wondering what I actually need this laptop for, don't worry—I'm not looking to get into heavy video gaming. My needs are much more straightforward. I just need something reliable for browsing the web and handling everyday tasks in Windows, like running Microsoft Office and similar programs. Nothing fancy, just smooth day-to-day productivity.

Could someone please provide an answer?
swiftbear7 swiftbear7 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2016
#2 ·
The Dell is actually a much better pick as a laptop because it includes a few key "little things" that the HP just lacks; the processor supports DDR3L-1600 (whereas that Celeron is stuck with a slower DDR3L-1333), plus you get 3 USB ports, Gigabit Ethernet, a hard drive that's twice as big, and a DVD burner.
Now, I guess neither of those two processors are exactly speed demons—the Celeron might be slightly faster, maybe, but at least the AMD has four cores and decent graphics. You could probably give it a massive boost by swapping in an SSD, assuming it's easy enough to reach the slot through the bottom panel? If not, you could always just grab an external enclosure for the current drive and call it a day.🙂

ps. Honestly, I don't think you'd gain anything by swapping out that HP (even if they’d actually agree to a trade now that the OS is already installed... though I highly doubt they would).
Angela Flores4 Angela Flores4 Active Member
85 messages
joined Jul 2015
#3 ·
I’ve crossed paths with quite a few laptops sitting in that sub $1333 price bracket... and honestly, I can say without any hesitation that it has never once been a positive experience, especially once you get past those first few months or years of actual use. 😢
lonejackal6 lonejackal6 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Feb 2014
#4 ·
swiftbear7 said:The Dell is actually a much better pick as a laptop because it includes a few key "little things" that the HP just lacks; the processor supports DDR3L-1600 (whereas that Celeron is stuck with a slower DDR3L-1333), plus you get 3 USB ports, Gigabit Ethernet, a hard drive that's twice as big, and a DVD burner.
Now, I guess neither of those two processors are exactly speed demons—the Celeron might be slightly faster, maybe, but at least the AMD has four cores and decent graphics. You could probably give it a massive boost by swapping in an SSD, assuming it's easy enough to reach the slot through the bottom panel? If not, you could always just grab an external enclosure for the current drive and call it a day.🙂

ps. Honestly, I don't think you'd gain anything by swapping out that HP (even if they’d actually agree to a trade now that the OS is already installed... though I highly doubt they would).

Thanks for the reply! Look, I realize neither of these processors is exactly high-performance, but... well... I have an old laptop myself with a 1.70 GHz processor (not four cores like this one), and it honestly felt faster... I don't know, really. Maybe I'm just getting a little obsessed with whether things should be faster or not, haha, I can't tell... I just know that there was this whole argument about how this one had certain GHz specs, and I was told not to even look at what the numbers say—like 1.50 GHz versus 2.50 GHz—because it doesn't matter since it has four cores and all that blah blah blah...

Look, my friend, when I go to open a folder on this laptop—just a standard, ordinary folder—there is a delay of a second, maybe a second and a half. For people like us who tend to nitpick over every little detail, we definitely notice that, if you know what I mean...

So, is that happening because I installed something incorrectly regarding Windows? I honestly doubt it, as I was quite careful with everything, but I don't know.

It’s actually gotten to the point where I was trying to disable those visual effects settings that people recommend to make Windows run faster, and man... I don't know. Everything is telling me I should just reinstall Windows, though even I am not entirely sure what I expect to happen—that Windows will somehow behave better, or run faster, or what.

I'll tell you, ever since I ran a scan with my anti-malware software, it flagged about 23 "problematic" items. They aren't necessarily dangerous, just things it suggested removing, and ever since I did that...

I noticed this issue with the folders, and on top of that, I've been sitting here wondering if I made a mistake by not picking the other laptop, and now I'm dealing with this too... man...
swiftbear7 swiftbear7 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2016
#5 ·
Look, anything is possible—you might even have some kind of glitch or malware hiding in your Windows setup, I don't know, but those "23 problematic issues" people talk about aren't exactly something you can just ignore right out of the gate. 🤷
Anyway, sticking with Windows 8.1 isn't exactly winning any prizes. Honestly, I’d say just upgrade to Windows 10; you should notice a pretty massive difference! Windows 10 feels way more fluid, like it actually has room to breathe. That's probably why they didn't bother with updates for 8 and just pushed everyone straight to 10.
As for how fast it opens folders, that usually comes down to the hard drive. If you haven't set up a Partition and everything is just crammed onto one single 1TB drive—the OS, all your programs, every single file... well, fragmentation happens a lot faster that way. But I guess that's pretty common knowledge by now.
If, for example, your videos are playing smoothly and YouTube works fine in your browser, then I don't think you're looking at a huge deal-breaker.
And if it helps at all, =2005&cmp[]=2388']I just dug this up—it's a Benchmark comparing those two processors —and it turns out the AMD chip actually beats the Celeron!

So, yeah... if that even matters...
lonejackal6 lonejackal6 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Feb 2014
#6 ·
swiftbear7 said:Look, anything is possible—you might even have some kind of glitch or malware hiding in your Windows setup, I don't know, but those "23 problematic issues" people talk about aren't exactly something you can just ignore right out of the gate. 🤷
Anyway, sticking with Windows 8.1 isn't exactly winning any prizes. Honestly, I’d say just upgrade to Windows 10; you should notice a pretty massive difference! Windows 10 feels way more fluid, like it actually has room to breathe. That's probably why they didn't bother with updates for 8 and just pushed everyone straight to 10.
As for how fast it opens folders, that usually comes down to the hard drive. If you haven't set up a Partition and everything is just crammed onto one single 1TB drive—the OS, all your programs, every single file... well, fragmentation happens a lot faster that way. But I guess that's pretty common knowledge by now.
If, for example, your videos are playing smoothly and YouTube works fine in your browser, then I don't think you're looking at a huge deal-breaker.
And if it helps at all, =2005&cmp[]=2388']I just dug this up—it's a Benchmark comparing those two processors —and it turns out the AMD chip actually beats the Celeron!

So, yeah... if that even matters...

Thanks so much, friend, but I have one very important question before we move forward 🙂: are you honestly advising me to switch to Windows 10 using THIS specific laptop with the specs you now know about?

I always had this nagging thought that it might be a bad idea, fearing this laptop simply wouldn't be able to handle the load given its hardware...

P.S. Movies, videos, and basically everything online works perfectly; I'm not experiencing any sluggishness there.
swiftbear7 swiftbear7 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2016
#7 ·
No problem at all! 👍

Honestly, I don't think there's a laptop out there that can't handle Windows 10. In fact, I suspect it might actually run smoother and feel a bit snappier. I'm not entirely sure what your specific setup allows for regarding the upgrade, but I personally jumped from 8.1 over to 10 on both a nine-year-old ThinkPad and my newer desktop. Both were running Windows 7 before that. Interestingly enough, that old ThinkPad actually struggled quite a bit with Windows 7, but once I moved it to 10, it started singing—even with an ancient Pentium processor and just 3GB of RAM, though I did swap in an SSD 🙂
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Also, if you haven't done it yet, I'd really suggest what I mentioned before—maybe grab at least a 60GB SSD specifically for your OS and main programs? My advice would be to format that big hard drive during the new installation and split it into two partitions. If you set aside about 100-150GB on the first one for Windows and your essential apps, it should make things much easier.

Cheers!
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
311 messages
joined Oct 2015
#8 ·
This is easily one of the dumbest things you can do. First off, partitioning a drive just slows it down. Second, most users don't give a damn about where stuff gets downloaded or installed; they just mash the Enter key whenever a prompt pops up. Everything ends up on the C: drive—all the music, movies, cache files, documents, emails, system restore points, backups... and of course, Windows itself along with every single program installation.

And don't even get me started on fragmentation on such a tiny space where everyone is constantly writing data. Pretty soon, even the swap file won't be contiguous.

And leaving 100-150GB for that? Within six months, that user will be knocking on your door whining about how their computer is lagging because they're out of space, even though they have a whole terabyte drive!

Sure, you could avoid this by being careful and manually moving files around—but why bother? Most people don't care. They aren't studying how Windows operates or where it stores its junk; they just want their PC to work as a tool for some other task and want zero contact with this kind of technical nonsense.

What's wrong with using folders? You can organize things however you want inside them.

As for processor speeds, I'm not looking for a debate over which one is better or faster (since honestly, both are pathetic), but I'll say this: Benchmark tests are pure synthetic garbage. They're lab measurements—and that's when a lab actually does them, not like this case where they're just scraping samples from random users. Just because someone drew a two-colored diagram doesn't mean those results reflect real-world usage or common daily workloads.

Given that the Celeron is newer, built on a more advanced process, uses half the power, and hits up to 2.6 GHz via turbo—go ahead, draw your own conclusion about who's actually faster in single-core tasks and who's leaving who in the dust.
swiftbear7 swiftbear7 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2016
#9 ·
Oh, it’s honestly so great to see you popping up here again (and no pressure to jump straight into an argument or anything)! 🙄 👍
lonejackal6 lonejackal6 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Feb 2014
#10 ·
darkowl72 said:This is easily one of the dumbest things you can do. First off, partitioning a drive just slows it down. Second, most users don't give a damn about where stuff gets downloaded or installed; they just mash the Enter key whenever a prompt pops up. Everything ends up on the C: drive—all the music, movies, cache files, documents, emails, system restore points, backups... and of course, Windows itself along with every single program installation.

And don't even get me started on fragmentation on such a tiny space where everyone is constantly writing data. Pretty soon, even the swap file won't be contiguous.

And leaving 100-150GB for that? Within six months, that user will be knocking on your door whining about how their computer is lagging because they're out of space, even though they have a whole terabyte drive!

Sure, you could avoid this by being careful and manually moving files around—but why bother? Most people don't care. They aren't studying how Windows operates or where it stores its junk; they just want their PC to work as a tool for some other task and want zero contact with this kind of technical nonsense.

What's wrong with using folders? You can organize things however you want inside them.

As for processor speeds, I'm not looking for a debate over which one is better or faster (since honestly, both are pathetic), but I'll say this: Benchmark tests are pure synthetic garbage. They're lab measurements—and that's when a lab actually does them, not like this case where they're just scraping samples from random users. Just because someone drew a two-colored diagram doesn't mean those results reflect real-world usage or common daily workloads.

Given that the Celeron is newer, built on a more advanced process, uses half the power, and hits up to 2.6 GHz via turbo—go ahead, draw your own conclusion about who's actually faster in single-core tasks and who's leaving who in the dust.

What exactly am I looking at here—making the jump to Windows 10, or messing around with the Partition settings?

darkowl72 said:This is easily one of the dumbest things you can do. First off, partitioning a drive just slows it down. Second, most users don't give a damn about where stuff gets downloaded or installed; they just mash the Enter key whenever a prompt pops up. Everything ends up on the C: drive—all the music, movies, cache files, documents, emails, system restore points, backups... and of course, Windows itself along with every single program installation.

And don't even get me started on fragmentation on such a tiny space where everyone is constantly writing data. Pretty soon, even the swap file won't be contiguous.

And leaving 100-150GB for that? Within six months, that user will be knocking on your door whining about how their computer is lagging because they're out of space, even though they have a whole terabyte drive!

Sure, you could avoid this by being careful and manually moving files around—but why bother? Most people don't care. They aren't studying how Windows operates or where it stores its junk; they just want their PC to work as a tool for some other task and want zero contact with this kind of technical nonsense.

What's wrong with using folders? You can organize things however you want inside them.

As for processor speeds, I'm not looking for a debate over which one is better or faster (since honestly, both are pathetic), but I'll say this: Benchmark tests are pure synthetic garbage. They're lab measurements—and that's when a lab actually does them, not like this case where they're just scraping samples from random users. Just because someone drew a two-colored diagram doesn't mean those results reflect real-world usage or common daily workloads.

Given that the Celeron is newer, built on a more advanced process, uses half the power, and hits up to 2.6 GHz via turbo—go ahead, draw your own conclusion about who's actually faster in single-core tasks and who's leaving who in the dust.

Look, friends, I stepped away from the hardware world quite some time ago, which is precisely why I’ve come here to seek your seasoned advice. I'm struggling to see what your point is—are you trying to tell me one of these two laptops is a complete waste of money? My entire objective when purchasing was simply to ensure the processor was fast enough for my everyday, mundane tasks. The salesperson insisted that the quad-core model was significantly superior just because it had four cores, telling me not to worry about the 1.50 GHz clock speed. He acted as if I were stuck in the dark ages by even considering the raw GHz rating for single-core performance...
lonejackal6 lonejackal6 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Feb 2014
#11 ·
swiftbear7 said:No problem at all! 👍

Honestly, I don't think there's a laptop out there that can't handle Windows 10. In fact, I suspect it might actually run smoother and feel a bit snappier. I'm not entirely sure what your specific setup allows for regarding the upgrade, but I personally jumped from 8.1 over to 10 on both a nine-year-old ThinkPad and my newer desktop. Both were running Windows 7 before that. Interestingly enough, that old ThinkPad actually struggled quite a bit with Windows 7, but once I moved it to 10, it started singing—even with an ancient Pentium processor and just 3GB of RAM, though I did swap in an SSD 🙂
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Also, if you haven't done it yet, I'd really suggest what I mentioned before—maybe grab at least a 60GB SSD specifically for your OS and main programs? My advice would be to format that big hard drive during the new installation and split it into two partitions. If you set aside about 100-150GB on the first one for Windows and your essential apps, it should make things much easier.

Cheers!

Well, I have actually already gone ahead and partitioned my drive. Out of the 1 Terabyte of space on my hard disk, I set the C: drive to 350 GB (which is where Windows lives, naturally), leaving the rest for the D: partition to hold all my other programs and files. 🙂

P.S. Once I find a spare moment in my schedule, I'll get around to performing the Windows 10 upgrade myself...
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
311 messages
joined Oct 2015
#12 ·
Splitting a drive into partitions isn't exactly smart. Those partitions don't actually change how the physical hardware is laid out; they're just logical divisions, which means something—or someone—has to manage them, adding extra work to the mix. You didn't mess up by partitioning, but you have to be careful to actually install your programs onto that second partition. If you just mash the Enter key during installation, everything defaults back to C:\Program Files.

Also, every once in a while, take whatever junk accumulates in the subfolders of your User folder and move it over to the other partition (and I mean *move* it, not just copy it). That way, your C: drive doesn't run out of breathing room. It’s basic logic. Physically, you're creating a bit of a mess (but that's an OS issue, not yours) because when you move things this way, you're really just updating pointers in the Partition table to point to D: instead of C:. This makes the disk a bit more fragmented... nothing major if you just run a defrag every six months or so. Look, you haven't done anything catastrophic; you've just given yourself more chores to deal with later...

Back in the day, computers worked differently. Hard drives were tiny, but honestly, what people were doing on them wasn't nearly as demanding or space-hungry as it is now. Nowadays, since drives are dirt cheap, it’s just bad practice to leave your boot disk (C: 🙂) struggling with less than 50 GB or 100 GB of free space. That kind of thing leads to unexpected headaches.

Here’s a stupid example from a month ago: I record shows on my PC—movies or whatever else looks interesting. I noticed a movie from the night before didn't save, even though I was positive I set it to record. Usually, recording works fine, whether it's live or on a timer. But there was no movie. After wasting an hour digging into it, I realized I had left the target folder (where recordings go) at the default setting on the C: drive. In the meantime, a bunch of downloads had piled up (I wasn't using the PC myself, and others had been using it too), so the free space dropped below 10%. The recording software I use has a built-in limit where it won't save content if the drive has less than 10% free space. The stupid program records the entire movie into a temp folder, then "smartly" realizes there isn't enough space to move it to the final destination and just deletes the whole recording...

I've been working with computers for a long time. I know all this stuff, I stay on top of it, and I'm careful, yet... even this happens to me. Imagine what happens to someone who just sees a computer as a tool for work...

Regarding the processor, like I said, they're basically the same kid. One might be slightly faster at certain tasks, the other at different ones. If we're talking single-core tasks, the Intel Core i3 is a bit faster. But if we're looking at multitasking—which is most people's setup, running an antivirus, listening to music, browsing, etc.—then yeah, the seller was right: the AMD should be a little more responsive ... But those differences are...

It’s like when some guy in a hardware thread claims he measured program speeds on one machine with slower memory versus another with faster memory and didn't notice a damn difference. 🤦

Don't stress about it. The dumbest thing you can do is stress after you've already bought the machine. You bought it, it's yours now. Take care of it and enjoy it. And don't be a whiner; you bought a low-end machine, and it’s going to act like one if you push it too hard. Honestly, it wouldn't have mattered much even if you'd bought the other one. Trust me...
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darkowl72 said:Splitting a drive into partitions isn't exactly smart. Those partitions don't actually change how the physical hardware is laid out; they're just logical divisions, which means something—or someone—has to manage them, adding extra work to the mix. You didn't mess up by partitioning, but you have to be careful to actually install your programs onto that second partition. If you just mash the Enter key during installation, everything defaults back to C:\Program Files.

Also, every once in a while, take whatever junk accumulates in the subfolders of your User folder and move it over to the other partition (and I mean *move* it, not just copy it). That way, your C: drive doesn't run out of breathing room. It’s basic logic. Physically, you're creating a bit of a mess (but that's an OS issue, not yours) because when you move things this way, you're really just updating pointers in the Partition table to point to D: instead of C:. This makes the disk a bit more fragmented... nothing major if you just run a defrag every six months or so. Look, you haven't done anything catastrophic; you've just given yourself more chores to deal with later...

Back in the day, computers worked differently. Hard drives were tiny, but honestly, what people were doing on them wasn't nearly as demanding or space-hungry as it is now. Nowadays, since drives are dirt cheap, it’s just bad practice to leave your boot disk (C: 🙂) struggling with less than 50 GB or 100 GB of free space. That kind of thing leads to unexpected headaches.

Here’s a stupid example from a month ago: I record shows on my PC—movies or whatever else looks interesting. I noticed a movie from the night before didn't save, even though I was positive I set it to record. Usually, recording works fine, whether it's live or on a timer. But there was no movie. After wasting an hour digging into it, I realized I had left the target folder (where recordings go) at the default setting on the C: drive. In the meantime, a bunch of downloads had piled up (I wasn't using the PC myself, and others had been using it too), so the free space dropped below 10%. The recording software I use has a built-in limit where it won't save content if the drive has less than 10% free space. The stupid program records the entire movie into a temp folder, then "smartly" realizes there isn't enough space to move it to the final destination and just deletes the whole recording...

I've been working with computers for a long time. I know all this stuff, I stay on top of it, and I'm careful, yet... even this happens to me. Imagine what happens to someone who just sees a computer as a tool for work...

Regarding the processor, like I said, they're basically the same kid. One might be slightly faster at certain tasks, the other at different ones. If we're talking single-core tasks, the Intel Core i3 is a bit faster. But if we're looking at multitasking—which is most people's setup, running an antivirus, listening to music, browsing, etc.—then yeah, the seller was right: the AMD should be a little more responsive ... But those differences are...

It’s like when some guy in a hardware thread claims he measured program speeds on one machine with slower memory versus another with faster memory and didn't notice a damn difference. 🤦

Don't stress about it. The dumbest thing you can do is stress after you've already bought the machine. You bought it, it's yours now. Take care of it and enjoy it. And don't be a whiner; you bought a low-end machine, and it’s going to act like one if you push it too hard. Honestly, it wouldn't have mattered much even if you'd bought the other one. Trust me...

Man, I really appreciate all the help but now I’ve run into a whole different headache, and it's happening on my desktop setup, which makes this even more frustrating. I actually started a separate thread specifically for this issue, but could you take a look and see if you can help me out? I'll just paste the text from my other post right here:

So, guys, I have no idea what’s going on. I’ve been using this Samsung monitor for about two years now, but for the last three days, I’ve noticed this weird stuttering—like everything just "hangs" for a split second whenever I move the mouse or type... I couldn't figure out what was causing it until I went into the screen resolution settings and saw this under the display section (THIS WASN'T THERE BEFORE; I don't know exactly what it used to say, but it definitely didn't mention the Dell 24 Monitor!), any ideas?

And check out what it's showing for the graphics card—it NEVER used to say Dell 24 Monitor! What does that even mean? I'm completely lost here... How do I get rid of this nonsense regarding the Samsung unit and just revert everything back to how it was before?

Everything is CONSTANTLY "lagging" while I'm working on the PC—the cursor freezes for a second, the typing stutters... what should I do?

Here is the link to the thread where I posted this: View on reddit

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