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Orange Juice or those old-school commercials?

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placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Way back when, I was fifteen and traveling through New York City for an English course. They started serving us "juice" at breakfast. It caught me off guard, but hey, I figured it was just some typical American habit.

Because of all those movies, I was totally fine with having Orange Juice as part of my morning routine—even though back then, I only ever drank juice while hanging out at cafes in the afternoons or evenings.

(I’m old enough to remember when "juice" first hit the local coffee shops here. Before that, we were drinking Fanta, Sprite, Pepsi, blueberry juice, or heavy syrups. And obviously, plenty of coffee and tea. 😁 Then, overnight, "juice" became this thing where you couldn't even call it Orange Juice anymore without a waiter correcting you: it's *juice*. 🙄 😁 It’s all part of the branding and the image...)

The girls in my study group couldn't wrap their heads around adding something so weird to breakfast: Juice for breakfast? 😲 😲

Since it was summer and we were walking miles all over New York City—and since every bottle of water cost money (they warned us not to drink from the tap)—I gratefully scavenged every leftover cup of Orange Juice from my classmates and downed about five or six small servings to quench my thirst. 😍 🤣

Nowadays, it seems like Orange Juice has become standard folklore in American culture. And just like in the US, where people are putting on weight, our kids are developing health issues that used to be strictly adult problems—Type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure...

Here’s another shocking bit of info: given the obesity rates in today's youth, Americans expect this generation might actually live SHORTER 😲 lives than their parents did. We've certainly come a long way. 😢

We shouldn't delude ourselves into thinking we're doing much better than the USA. We don't have quite as many obese people yet, but over the last decade, obesity rates here have been climbing fast. We really need to start being mindful of every unnecessary calorie we consume:

- That Orange Juice we sip just because we're bored (why not just stick to blueberry tea?)
- Coca-Cola, Sprite... (why not just get your fix from diet cola or the caffeine in your coffee?)
- All kinds of sugary snacks (how about an apple slice with an almond instead?)

But the advertising gives us this illusion... a simulacrum... 😢
Walter Smith8 Walter Smith8 Active Member
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#2 ·
placidfox55 said:-coca cola, sprite, ... (what else is missing from diet soda or the caffeine we get from cans/coffee)

Look, placidfox55, I just had to jump in here... everything you said makes sense, but—what exactly is "missing" from diet soda? 😲 😕 😲 😕

What's actually in diet soda anyway?
placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Sandra Wood45 said:Hey placidfox55, I just had to chime in... everything sounds great, but—what’s actually missing from Diet Coke?😲 😕 😲 😕

So, what’s really in Diet Coke?

Actually, that was a rhetorical question. If someone is hooked on having a soda every single day, they might as well switch to Diet Coke. At least then they aren't swallowing the massive amounts of sugar found in regular cola or Sprite. 🙂

As for what's in Diet Coke... it's basically a cocktail of chemicals, including dyes, artificial sweeteners that can cause bloating, and caffeine...

Isn't it better to get your daily caffeine fix—since we usually drink soda for that "refreshing" kick, which is really just the caffeine hitting—from coffee or tea (black, green, white)? Those actually come with some benefits.
Sarah Ruiz42 Sarah Ruiz42 Active Member
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#4 ·
Look, all these fizzy sodas are basically a death sentence for your health and your waistline...

Coca-Cola is the absolute last thing I’d ever touch, whether it's the regular stuff or even the diet version.

If you're addicted, you seriously need to get your act together. It's not like you were "born this way"—you chose to build this habit. So, you better start choosing to break it.

And honestly? I don't buy into the idea that Orange Juice is some pillar of American culture. It's just juice. Anyone can squeeze a fruit and call it a day; we make it ourselves at home all the time. It’s just a basic commodity that has zero deep connection to the USA or our heritage. (If I remember correctly, the Brits actually popularized it, and it’s been a staple of their breakfast way longer than ours). Claiming orange juice is "American" is like saying driving a car is a cultural tradition. It's too generic to mean anything.
placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Ryan Lopez said:, it’s just juice anyone can make, even at home.


Yeah, we do make it. But when you have to squeeze six oranges just to get one glass, you realize exactly what went into it, so you usually stop after that single serving. You treat it like a dessert. Maybe you have another one later. Most people probably dilute it with water anyway, right?

But when you’ve got a carton of orange juice sitting in the fridge, you just gulp it down. You don't think about the fruit count or the calories; you just drink it because you're thirsty, knocking back 150 calories like it's a candy bar. And then maybe another candy bar. The thing is, it doesn't even fill you up.

The sheer ease of pouring from a carton completely kills any awareness of what you're actually consuming.
silentsailor63 silentsailor63 Member
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#6 ·
Orange Juice is incredibly healthy, though you really can't beat the 100% pure stuff.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#7 ·
Daily calorie needs usually sit somewhere between 1300 and 1700 for guys, depending on height, I guess.
A 100 ml serving of Juicy Fruit orange juice has about 43 kCal (or 180 kJ). Looking at the label, it's just water and concentrated orange juice. It's pasteurized and doesn't have sweeteners... I don't think there are any preservatives either.

An Aquafina orange, carrot, and lemon blend comes in at 51 kCal per 100 ml.
The ingredients are water, a juice base (18% orange, 8% carrot, 4% lemon, sugar, lutein, 5% milk), plus stabilizers. Aside from those stabilizers, there aren't any preservatives.

So, if someone actually wanted to hit their total daily calorie goal just by drinking juice, they'd have to chug at least 3 liters every single day... personally, I like 🙂 fine, but I really can't imagine anyone actually drowning themselves in this stuff.
placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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#8 ·
silentsailor63 said:Orange Juice is super healthy, but the 100% kind is even better.

That’s just big juice industry propaganda. Whole fruit is way healthier than any "100%" juice you can buy.

Basically, the juice industry tries to sell us on the idea that 100% juice can replace the high-quality nutrients we'd normally get from eating actual fruit. People get lulled into thinking they're being healthy, when they're really just drinking a sugar bomb—sure, it's fructose, but it's still sugar—with just a tiny sprinkle of vitamins and antioxidants.

The issue is how fast that stuff hits your system. You dump all that sugar and those vitamins in at once; your blood sugar spikes instantly, and then your body just stores the excess as fat. As for the vitamins and antioxidants? They help for a split second before you just pee them out. We're missing all the fiber that comes with real fruit. If we ate the actual fruit, that fiber would give our gut something to do, keep us feeling full so we don't overeat, and slow down the sugar absorption. That would provide steady energy without the fat storage and give our bodies enough time to actually use the vitamins.

You should be aiming for at least five servings of fruit a day. Some recent studies even suggest more. Juice—even the 100% stuff—is no substitute for the real thing.
placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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#9 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:d
100 ml of Juicy Fruit 100% orange juice packs about 43 calories (or 180 kJ).

though I don't know who actually chugs those juices by the liter.

Thanks for the data.

Hardly anyone drinking OJ at breakfast stops at just 100 ml.
Usually, you’re looking at a full glass (250 ml), which is 130 kcal. And if kids have access to it, they might sip on juice all day long. Three glasses puts you at 390 kcal—that's basically a whole meal right there. Except it won't actually fill you up; it just tricks your stomach for a second.

It'd be way better to just eat a few actual oranges instead of washing them down with several glasses of juice.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#10 ·
You aren't even getting any fiber from orange juice... unless you're planning on chewing on the peel 😉

Fiber should really be coming from other sources—like whole grains or legumes, I guess...

Honestly, I think this idea that fruit juice is inherently bad is just some myth. Personally, there are other things I’d actually love to hear an expert weigh in on—like alkaline versus acidic foods, you know? The stuff that shifts your pH levels. Apparently, certain illnesses are supposed to stem from that sort of thing.
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#11 ·
As far as I can tell, the real issue isn't just kids drinking soda—it's the fact that they barely move these days.
placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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#12 ·
Kimberly Davis52 said:As far as I can tell, the bigger issue isn't just kids drinking juice; it's the fact that they barely move anymore.

Sure, kids aren't active enough. That's a fair point.
But the real kicker is the massive amount of calories they're packing in that they have zero chance of burning off.
I'm not sure if you're counting calories burned at a gym or something, but even a solid twenty-minute run on a treadmill won't burn more than maybe 150 calories. You can blow through that in no time. Take an ice cream cone, for example—that's easily 450 calories right there.

Drinking Orange Juice is just one habit where people take in extra energy they don't need, which then just sits there and turns into fat.

If you're thirsty, water is always your best bet. 🙂 😎
Jamie Johnson6 Jamie Johnson6 Member
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#13 ·
placidfox55 said:It is quite a sobering reality to face, but we have to admit that kids these days just aren't getting nearly enough physical activity. I remember when my own nephews used to spend every single afternoon running around the neighborhood until sunset, but now it seems like they’re much more content staying indoors. It's a tough trend to witness, but it's certainly something we need to address.
The real issue here is that they are consuming massive amounts of calories that they simply have no way of burning off. I remember when I first started my fitness journey back in Chicago, I used to think I could just eat whatever I wanted as long as I hit the gym for an hour, only to realize pretty quickly that the math just doesn't add up that way. It's all about that balance.
I’ve been wondering lately if anyone else here actually tracks their calorie burn while working out at the local gym. I was on the treadmill earlier today, and even though I was sweating quite a bit after about twenty minutes of running, my fitness tracker showed that I barely burned 150 calories. It’s a bit humbling when you realize how much effort it takes to burn off a single snack; for instance, I once grabbed a simple ice cream cone on my way home from the gym, only to realize it packed about 450 calories. It really puts the math into perspective when you see how easily those numbers climb back up.

😎

I completely agree with that sentiment. It really isn't worth stressing yourself out just to enjoy a few extra minutes of indulgence with some chocolate; quite simply, it’s just not a sound economic decision for your health. I actually had a bit of an eye-opening moment with this while I was on the elliptical at my local gym—looking at the calorie counter was a genuine shock, honestly, because that thing tracks progress much slower than I ever anticipated.😠 )
placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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Jamie Johnson6 said:I’m with you on this. It’s just not worth stressing over a few minutes of extra chocolate bliss. It doesn't make sense mathematically. I realized that while I was on the elliptical—the calorie counter on that thing is a total joke, it moves so slow😠 )

Haha. 🤣 Or look at it the other way: It’s not worth eating more than one square, because it all just ends up in my gut, and there's zero chance I'm spending three hours on a treadmill just to offset half a candy bar. 😬
placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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#15 ·
http://www.whitehouse.gov
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#16 ·
A quick 10-minute bike ride burns at least 90 calories. Just rolling around on a skateboard? That’s maybe 80 kCal for the same amount of time.
Look, this isn't just some random trivia for girls, but if you do these things for 30 minutes, here's what you're burning:

Cleaning the house = 120 kCal
Taking care of a kid = 120 kCal
Chopping wood = 210 kCal
Washing and waxing a car = 150 kCal
Active sex = 85 kCal
Pouring concrete = 240 kCal

So, I guess it's not actually the damn soda companies' fault, it's just that the vacuum cleaner broke down. 😈
Sarah Ruiz42 Sarah Ruiz42 Active Member
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#17 ·
placidfox55 said:Yeah, we make it. But once you've squeezed six whole oranges just to get one glass of juice, you realize how much work it was and you usually just call it a day after that one glass. You treat it like a dessert. Maybe have one more later. Most people probably just water it down anyway, right?

I don't know about that... I definitely won't stop at just one glass, and honestly, that glass isn't even as high in calories as you're making it out to be. If I stop drinking juice, it'll be because you can't drink much of it before it hits—it gives me massive heartburn, and I already deal with way too much acid as it is.

I mostly drink Orange Juice as an aperitif, not a digestif.

And when I make fresh juice from oranges at home, I don't bother watering it down. It's not some cheap syrup; it's actual juice. Thick, delicious, yummy...
Sarah Ruiz42 Sarah Ruiz42 Active Member
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#18 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:daily calorie needs (kCal) are around 1300-1700 for guys (depending on height, obviously).

Are you talking about some lazy Bushman who does absolutely nothing all day? 😕

Look, if you're an average American guy—say, 6 feet tall and weighing around 200 pounds—who’s actually working a real job, let alone trying to get lucky with a girl later that night, there is NO way you can function on 1400 or even 1700 calories a day...

When I factor in hitting the gym, pulling a 12-hour shift, messing around with my girlfriend, and dealing with all the stress at work and home, 1400 calories isn't enough to even help me sleep through the night...
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 Regular
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#19 ·
Real juice doesn't have any added sugar, and you're getting about 7 to 10 pounds of actual oranges in a single liter. It’s a solid way to kickstart your day with some vitamins.
Second off, soda is total crap, even if I personally prefer it over coffee when I need a massive jolt to actually get stuff done. Plus, because of its weird chemical makeup, it somehow works wonders for settling an upset stomach during a stomach bug in record time.
Third, if we're gonna sit here and talk about American garbage, look at those awful pancakes smothered in maple syrup people eat for breakfast 😁
or those Uncle Ben's sauces.
Anyway, juice is a decent invention. And Jazz 👍
placidfox55 placidfox55 Active MemberOP
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#20 ·
Megan Peterson87 said:if we're talking about American junk, you've got those nasty pancakes smothered in maple syrup for breakfast😁

😁

You think some kid twenty years from now won't be posting online about how Americans used to gorge themselves on those gross maple syrup pancakes like it was totally normal?

Haha, honestly, who would've thought five years ago that we'd actually be eating Uncle Ben's plum sauce? 🤣

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