What's the future for talented musicians?

Half a turkey went straight into my stomach...

mistypanther said:like I said before, most of you music-obsessed idiots belong in some kind of bunker being hit with napalm.
Look, if I mention someone, I’m quoting them and responding, no big deal. Personally, I don't even know who you are, and frankly, I couldn't care less. Who are you even? I don't know you. Yet, you're arrogant and clueless enough to try and bring me up when you don't even know me, let alone anyone I know. You don't even *know* me. It's pathetic, and yeah, I'm going to quote you and tell you where to shove it because this is just sad. Honestly, it must be incredibly hard to have absolutely zero life—to the point where you're out here trying to name-drop people you've never met. Go ahead, head over to a gossip forum or start a thread about rumors. Maybe you can be the moderator there. 🤣

what a loser ☕

Guy, you're only making yourself a laughingstock because of your own actions... you can thank your condescending and low-brow comments on other subforums for that. That's how you became "famous" around here, and that's why people are reacting to you. Why act surprised?🙄 ☕

anti-person said:the band's gonna be called Schlosser and the Stairs😁

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Peter Foster93 said:And what about Christmas and the whole holiday spirit? Where's all the damn cheer? VROOM!!

Look, I can't speak for the Horse, but I'm pretty sure jimmy jazz is some kind of Buddhist or whatever, right?

np Echo & etc. - Everything Kills You

Lonesome Hobo said:Guy, you only have yourself to blame for being a laughingstock... you can thank your own arrogant and primitive comments on other subforums for that. That’s how you became notorious, and that’s why people are reacting this way. Why on earth are you acting surprised?🙄 ☕

I am honestly stunned by this comment. To think this comes from someone who actually knows their music.🤣

Nicholas Perez33 said:Give me some drums, a set of long high stairs, and I'll be ready to play free jazz. 😁

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High quality. I'm sure of it. 🙂

Or like how Lemmy once sagely pointed out that all you really need to have a band is a synth, two drenched amps, and you're good to go.

Yeah, I know a few guys who could probably outplay 95% of the local scene and 80% of the global stage, yet nobody has ever heard their names.

Why? Let me try to be objective here... though this is just my take, and I'm certainly no expert on how the industry works...

First off, there's the law of the market. They don't play mainstream stuff, and they aren't looking to sell out. Plus, we're just too small of a market for anyone to make a decent living from music unless they're a massive superstar.

Then there's "market control."
A few big players—think the major labels or those huge industry cliques—basically get together and decide which trends, genres, and artists are going to be pushed during any given era. It makes it tough to go independent, though not impossible.

Third, there's a genuine shortage of musicians. There might be a couple of geniuses out there, but you need more than two people to actually build something. There's either a total lack of professional studio musicians, or you have to pay them a fortune. As for finding bandmates at a high enough level—considering some of these fanatics would practice twelve hours a day without even noticing—people usually end up quitting every project, even if it's music they personally love.

Okay, that's the objective side of things, but there's also the subjective part...

First—they aren't hungry enough for success. They’d rather sacrifice fame to play what they want for their own pleasure instead of pivoting to fit the market. On top of that, they don't really have that drive to put themselves out there or prove themselves to the world.

Second—musical skill is one thing, but stage presence and connecting with an audience is another. That communication is just as vital, and often even more important, especially for musicians who live for the live show.

Et cetera, et cetera. It's getting late and I'm tired of overthinking it. 😁

ari peka nikkola said:😂 🙂

and all that stuff, I'm not gonna sit here and listen to it.

Well, not everyone does, but there are definitely some people out there who actually pull it off. 😁

rustymaker60 said:yeah, this whole thing about Hendrix is definitely a bit much
🤔A bit?

Honestly, I think all this hype surrounding Hendrix is basically just a musical urban legend. In my humble opinion—which might be totally wrong—there were better guitarists both before and after him. But maybe none of them were quite as influential.

You have to look at things in the context of the era. The electric guitar was still evolving during Hendrix's time, and I feel like it really hit its peak in the eighties with guys like Satriani, Vai, and that whole crew, with all that heavy metal shredding and whatnot...

So, you'll see someone like Satriani cite Hendrix as one of his idols, even though he completely outplayed him, just like everyone else did to his own heroes. But then again, without those legends, we wouldn't have Sacha or many others. Who else would they have had to learn from?

The real question isn't whether someone can be (technically) better than Hendrix. That’s not even a real concern for a serious guitarist—you know, a pro who spends their days in the studio practicing, rather than some guy getting wasted with his band for days on end, dreaming of fame after a two-hour rehearsal 😁 ). That doesn't take away from Hendrix's greatness, his originality, or whatever else he brought to the table.

Maybe, in the end, 😳 🤣 😛

Congress said:It's pretty wild that one of the top fusion guitarists out there right now, Nguyen Le, dropped an album called "Purple" back in 2002 featuring his takes on Hendrix classics. In one interview, he actually mentioned that Hendrix's playing style is still a massive mystery to him, and this album was just his first attempt at cracking the code: "Music Has its Gods, and Jimi Hendrix is One of them". It’s funny how a jazz musician who grinds on the guitar for 12 hours a day still struggles to pin down Hendrix's technique, yet here in the States, we've got every kid who's been playing for five years acting like they're twice as good as Hendrix.

Can't blame him for not being a Metalhead🤣

Balkanijan Pimp said:I mean, I think they really hit their peak back in the eighties with Satriani, Vai, and that whole crew—just pure, heavy metal madness...

😂 😂 😂

driftingeagle27 said:I don't know about the Horse, but I think jimmy is Buddhist or something, right?

like Echo & stuff - Everything Kills You

We get along just fine with Christians!

for example, What is Wrong with Groovin by Letta M'bul

People used to hype up Hendrix quite a bit. Word was he had a massive ego, I guess.

Nicholas Perez33 said:😂 😂 😂

And what's supposed to be funny about that? 😛

Back then, guitars were just "it." They were everywhere—massive popularity, music where the guitar was front and center—so you had these fanatics who would spend entire days just practicing.

Like Sach said, today's guitarists are lazy; people don't really put in that kind of effort anymore. 😉

It's simply not the vibe anymore. Guitarist virtuosity isn't the trend it used to be, and it's unlikely we'll see those kinds of players popping up again...
On top of that, kids spend way too much time in front of a computer to think watching fingers scramble over some piece of wood is the greatest thrill in life. 😂

It's also true that, generally speaking, some of the best bassists came out of the jazz and funk scenes. Of course, those aren't hard rules and there are plenty of exceptions, but that's the broad reality. 😛

Balkanijan Pimp said:Who is to blame when someone just isn't a Metalhead? 🤣

Metalheads—especially those 80s hair metal guitarists—are totally gay. Can we please just get some punk instead? 🙂 🙂

Balkanijan Pimp said:And what’s so funny about that? 😛

It was simply a time when guitars were "in." Everyone was playing them, music where the guitar took center stage was everywhere, and all that created a massive wave of fanatics who would spend entire days just practicing.

Sure, technically he might be one of the most shred-heavy players out there, but creatively? He kind of misses the mark. I guess anyone sitting around for ten hours a day obsessing over etudes just to become the next Malmsteen is eventually going to sound like Malmsteen. Thank God that besides those heavy metal guys who worship at the altar of Malmsteen, nobody really takes him seriously.

Nicholas Perez33 said:Yeah, technically he's the most shred-heavy, but creatively? He's a disaster. Anyone spending ten hours a day obsessing over etudes just to become the next Malmsteen will eventually get there. Thank God that besides those heavy metal guys worshipping Malmsteen, nobody actually takes him seriously.

Vai, Satriani, and Malmsteen are complete caricatures. It’s just something people here seem to fall for. We only need three chords at most, plus, of course, some frantic typing-style solos on the accordion.

Drew Adams58 said:Just three chords at most—that’s all we really need—plus, of course, those rapid-fire, finger-tapping accordion solos...

Love ya, man! 😬

unknown said:accordion fingerstyle solos.

🙏 🙏 🙂

Grandma Moses said:on all those professional rankings for the top 10 or 15 guitarists of all time, Jimi Hendrix consistently takes the number one spot, even though anyone who has been playing for five years or more actually plays twice as well as he does...

Haha, wow... 🙄

That is certainly an interesting take. You're talking about Jimi Hendrix? 😠 Maybe take a breather and just relax a bit...

Are you perhaps part of this elite group of "masters" with over five years of experience who could easily outplay Jimi Hendrix before breakfast?

You might be better off finding a hobby like gardening instead...