What's the future for talented musicians?

I have just one name for you true believers. John Fahey. 🙂

I don't know, but honestly, a remix of Hendrix's fart would be more interesting than all those Yngwie, Satriani, and Vai symphonies combined

Balkanijan Pimp said:It’s not that there are idiots out there, it’s just that everyone thinks their opinion actually matters☕

Finally, something we can actually agree on.😬

bluemaker said:Since we're talking about guitarists, I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share their thoughts on these names:

Wes Montgomery
Django Reinhardt
Joe Pass
Grant Green
Barney Kassel
Jim Hall
John Scofield

I haven't spent a massive amount of time diving deep into jazz guitarists, but there's always plenty of time for that... As for the ones mentioned, here is what I've gathered so far:

Wes M.
I've listened to a few duets with Jimmy Smith and that Moving' Wes album, and I really enjoyed it, truly quite good... Apparently, there are some recordings of Wes playing with John Coltrane's classic quartet from those old Village Vanguard sessions, does anyone know where to find them?

Django Reinhardt = the king
Everything I've heard from him has been absolutely magnificent...

Joe Pass
I have one of his Pablo records featuring Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Brown, and the playing is just superb, wonderful stuff... I picked up an original pressing at a flea market downtown for next to nothing. A friend and I were walking away from the market, chatting about how incredible the musicianship had to be just looking at that lineup, when this older gentleman walks past us and says, "Oh yeah, those guys are all absolute legends." I looked closer, and it was actually Jimmy Stanić... 😁

Jim Hall
I recently caught a sharp duet he did with Pat Metheny and found it quite lovely... His album Concierto is a total classic, definitely worth a listen...

As for the rest, I haven't had the chance to give them a serious listen yet...

Should we just split this thread up? For this whole thing about guitarists, I’m thinking we call it Hendrix under Sacha?.

Balkanijan Pimp said:The media is just inflating his image, and now everyone is suddenly acting like he's a god. If the media hyped up Mecalpine this much, people would be swearing by him instead of Hendrix right about now.

Instigators ☕

Hendrix lacks talent; Hendrix is just on LSD with a fried brain.👍

🤣 :asshole:

A list of guitarists who could actually turn these Guitar Hero wannabes into something useful, or just the legends whose critiques always crack me up

1. Those two guys from Slayer—I swear, they're the ultimate icons, pure grit and endless tremolo.
2. The duo from Iron Maiden; same reasoning as above.
3. Sepra—the guitar honestly sounds more like an accordion. 🙂🙂🙂
4. That guy from Wildwood; same reason as the first two.

''The moment I hear musicians with real talent, I reach for my gun'' Joseph G., 1938

Alex Scott22 said:''The moment I hear a truly talented musician, I reach for my gun'' Joseph G., 1938

As I’ve mentioned before—and I do mean this quite sincerely—a truly gifted musician... well, they can be the absolute worst kind of musician. 😬

Drew Adams58 said:1. Those two guys from Slayer—man, they've gotta be the biggest legends ever, just pure grit and tremolo

😍
Slayer's solos are probably the best solos 👋

People who obsess over guitar virtuosos are basically musical fascists—it’s scientifically proven.

bluemaker said:Look, Hendrix was good—exceptional, even. But if Miles had been him... loved it Maybe that's a bit too strong.

Maybe not...
The fundamental problem with music criticism isn't that people are wrong—it's that they're often boringly right. They follow the rules, cite the theory, and explain exactly why a certain chord progression works, yet they fail to capture why the music actually matters. It’s like reading a technical manual for a Ferrari instead of feeling the wind in your hair while driving it through the canyons. Take the way most critics approach jazz. They treat it like a math equation. They dissect the syncopation, analyze the modal shifts, and act as if they've solved some grand mystery by identifying a specific scale. But if you strip away the intellectual posturing, you're just left with someone describing the plumbing while everyone else is busy dancing in the living room. Real listening isn't an academic exercise. You don't need a degree to know when a solo hits you in the gut. When I first heard Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker, I wasn't thinking about bebop structures or rhythmic displacement. I was just experiencing something massive. That's the gap. A critic can tell you what happened on the record, but they rarely tell you what happened to *you* while you were listening to it. If we want to talk about greatness, we have to stop hiding behind jargon. We need to talk about the soul of the thing. Whether it's the raw power of Jimi Hendrix or the sophisticated cool of Miles Davis, the impact is visceral. If your writing doesn't reflect that visceral reality, you aren't really talking about music; you're just talking about yourself.
http://www.furious.com/perfect/miles.html
Check out this breakdown of funk history: http://www.soul-patrol.com/funk/jhfunk.htm

Amanda Fowler64 said:maybe not.....
http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column13a.htm

Alright, let me pull a quote straight from that link you shared here:

'Jimi was one of those kids who had grown up worshipping Miles as Miles kept getting younger. Which Black Kid Who loved Music Had never heard of Miles Davis? For as long as Jimi could remember, Miles Had been a legend to Him, and it was only when he felt secure enough as a legend himself that he came to sit at Miles' feet and ask Miles to record an album with him.'

So, would you mind walking me through how exactly you concluded that Miles Davis actually worshipped Jimi Hendrix?

If there was anyone Miles truly looked up to, it was definitely Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker.

gentlepuma20 said:😍
Slayer has the best solos 👋

Man, seeing Slayer live at the arena back in '98... if I didn't die of pure boredom then, I never will.
Let's put together a list of the most overrated metal bands of all time:

1-Metallica
2-Slayer
3-Mayhem
4-Cannibal Corpse
5-Deicide (Legion is decent, but the rest... ugh!)

IMISSOVO

gentlepuma20 said:IMISSOVO

Solid post. 🤣 🤣 👍

bluemaker said:Fine, here’s the quote from your link...

Taking things out of context doesn't get you anywhere.

gentlepuma20 said:I MEAN

Sorry... I didn't mean to hurt your feelings🙂

Bob Dylan said:I am so sorry... I really didn't mean to hurt you🙂

And it isn't just her! You... you... 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Nicholas Perez33 said:And she isn't the only one! You... you absolute... 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Man, guys, that’s not what I meant at all. Now you've gone and made me feel bad too.🙂 🙂 🙂