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So, does homeopathy actually work?

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shadowfalcon33 shadowfalcon33 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
You can find the answer right here.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...89&query_hl=10

For those who refuse to read: no, it doesn't work. It’s politically incorrect to say, but it's basically a tax on the poor.
Alexander Phillips4 Alexander Phillips4 Newcomer
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#2 ·
I'm not quite sure what to say, but it’s well-known that it works for little kids and even animals, so I don't know if you can really call it a placebo effect... besides, it’s approved in plenty of countries and was even recognized by the World Health Organization not that long ago. At the end of the day, I think all that matters is that it helps people. Personally, I use it quite a bit 🙏
driftinggull13 driftinggull13 Active Member
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#3 ·
I was skimming through some research in Wilderness a couple of years back, and honestly, it’s the same old story... if I remember the study correctly, the vast majority of controlled trials involving homeopathic remedies show absolutely zero effect beyond just a placebo. Some people try to argue there's stuff going on that can't be explained by the placebo effect alone, but the authors actually pointed out that a lot of these homeopathic studies weren't even conducted properly—they frequently blew right past the whole double-blind protocol. That was the conclusion after they analyzed about a hundred different studies... if anyone actually wants to dig into it, I could probably track down the reference later.
Personally, I think it's all just a bit of psychological maneuvering that might help someone feel better here and there, so hey, if it works for you, go for it... but otherwise, it flies in the face of common sense. It’s wild how much money is being funneled into this industry when they’re essentially just prescribing overpriced water.
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
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#4 ·
Of course it doesn't work! Advil is the real deal! 👍 🙄

(I mean, homeopathy is pretty amazing, but thank god not everyone uses it, or there'd be way too many people on Earth. Cheers to Advil and the doctors who prescribe it!)
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
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#5 ·
Jessica White24 said:>
I mean, I don't really know what to say, but it's known to help little kids and even animals, so I guess maybe it isn't just a placebo effect...

Nah, it’s not. Back then, they either hypnotized the cows or just convinced them they'd feel better, playing music and stuff... and honestly, they probably just faked the whole study. It's all just fluff, really. You can see how much money homeopathy makes globally! The homeopathic industry is absolutely booming! 😲 🙄 😁 😉
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#6 ·
Just started homeopathy. After four months of conventional medicine doing absolutely nothing for me, I know I can't claim to be an unbiased observer here.😁 But I'll report back on how it goes.
I've had good experiences with it before, though...
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
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#7 ·
shadowgardener12 said:I just started homeopathy since regular medicine hasn't really helped me at all over the last four months, so I guess I can't be totally unbiased here. 😁but I'll let you guys know how it goes.
I've actually had some good luck with it before, too.

Just another sucker falling for the placebo effect. 😢 😁 😉
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
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#8 ·
shadowgardener12 said:standard medicine hasn't worked for me for 4 months now,

Man, I'm almost tempted to start a whole thread asking, 'Wait, does mainstream medicine even work?!' 😬 🙂
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#9 ·
In a lot of cases, conventional medicine just fails. When they can't fix it, they just label it "chronic."
But nobody ever teaches you that there are things standard doctors simply can't cure—things they just write off as lifelong issues—while other systems actually do provide relief. Things like Ayurveda, homeopathy, or yoga therapy. Especially when it comes to respiratory issues.
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
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#10 ·
shadowgardener12 said:A lot of times, standard medicine just doesn't work. If it fails, they just label it chronic.
But I guess people aren't really taught that there are things conventional doctors can't fix—things they just call "chronic"—that other systems actually handle. Like Ayurveda, homeopathy, or yoga therapy. Especially when it comes to respiratory issues.

Pa yeah, but honestly, most people don't know much about "alternative" options. Aside from stuff like Reiki or acupuncture, mostly. 🙄 It makes sense, though. In a massive industrial nation like the US, it's hard for people to accept anything "weird," so they just reject it or make fun of it. It's like we're all just mindless zombies only seeing what's put in front of us...😳
driftinggull13 driftinggull13 Active Member
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#11 ·
You’re spot on, honestly... these incredible methods work so incredibly well that even the people who actually came up with them—you know, the folks from places like China or India—spend all their time practicing them while completely tossing out mainstream medicine. And bloodletting? People were doing that for hundreds of years because, hey, what else works better? But no, modern medicine has to turn its nose up at it, ignoring centuries of perfectly fine experience just because it doesn't fit the current mold. It’s such a beautiful homeopathic principle too, you know, like treating like with like, or maybe using a specific herb to soothe a nasty wound... it’s been proven absolutely reliable in medical history...
Nah, mainstream medicine just doesn't work, it’s nothing more than a bunch of nonsense cooked up by various medical and pharmaceutical lobbies... I mean, they went through the trouble of inventing organ transplants when they could have just been sipping water poured over crystals and energized by the sun... 😉
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#12 ·
haha...if I could just stick to the topic... maybe save my fantasies for some new sci-fi thread instead.

my doctors, who practice both Ayurveda and homeopathy, are actually solid conventional MDs too... they just happen to know a bit more about 😉
driftinggull13 driftinggull13 Active Member
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#13 ·
shadowgardener12 said:haha... if I could actually stay on track for once... instead of just dumping all my little fantasies onto some newly created sci-fi thread...

My doctors, who dabble in Ayurveda and homeopathy, are actually pretty solid when it comes to standard Western medicine too... they just happen to know a little bit more about the deeper stuff 😉

Paaaa, everyone loves a good hunt, even the doctors... though this whole thing about "fantasies"... well, since you're clearly prone to them—given the homeopathy talk and everything else you've said—it makes perfect sense that it all looks like pure fantasy to you. Honestly, what are all those scientists and their rigid "scientific approach" in their studies really worth compared to your doctors who supposedly "know a little more"... just a way to make a buck, right?😉
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#14 ·
They know what they're doing... unlike those cheap rhetoricians just stirring the pot without a clue how things actually work 😉 👍
driftinggull13 driftinggull13 Active Member
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#15 ·
shadowgardener12 said:they actually know what they're doing... unlike those cheap shots who just spin nonsense and move warm water around without having any real clue how things work 😉 👍

Are you actually bragging about that, or are you complaining?...
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#16 ·
driftinggull13 said:Are you bragging about that or complaining?

haha... writing your own posts while half-asleep? absolute legend.
driftinggull13 driftinggull13 Active Member
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#17 ·
shadowgardener12 said:haha.. are you seriously writing your own posts while sleepwalking? that's just legendary...

I mean, honestly, anything goes on this thread... it's just pure madness from start to finish, between all the homeopathy nonsense, the subconscious rambling, and then there's your "genius" intellect 😉
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 Member
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#18 ·
So, I was over at the main pharmacy in downtown Seattle—the one right near Pike Place Market—and I noticed they actually have an entire section dedicated strictly to homeopathy. 😲
Can anyone weigh in on this?
Does this mean homeopathy has finally gained some level of legitimacy from mainstream medical professionals?
Or is it just another way for them to squeeze more money out of people?
shadowfalcon33 shadowfalcon33 Active MemberOP
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#19 ·
Daniel Chavez14 said:Anyway, I was at a major pharmacy in downtown Chicago (right near Pike Place Market) and noticed they had an entire section dedicated solely to homeopathy. 😲
Can anyone weigh in on this?
Does this mean homeopathy has actually gained some level of legitimacy among mainstream medical professionals?
Or is it just a blatant cash grab?


I think you answered your own question. 🙂

Regarding the medical community, take a look at driftinggull13's first post here, as well as my own introductory post (feel free to click the link and read the summary if you have a moment). I'm not sure how closely you follow the field, but The New England Journal of Medicine is one of the most prestigious medical journals in existence—ranking third globally in terms of impact within general medicine.
Of course, you'll find doctors who support homeopathy. Interestingly, in my experience, the most fervent homeopathy enthusiasts tend to be those physicians who lacked the capacity to grasp complex medical concepts due to their own limitations, often characterized by spending excessive amounts of time in school while struggling with poor grades.
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
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#20 ·
Homeopathy is pretty much recognized all over the world. According to the World Health Organization, homeopathy is actually the second most used treatment method globally, right after traditional Chinese medicine, followed by herbalism, with conventional medicine coming in fourth. It’s used by the British Royal Family, Tina Turner, and even Mother Teresa, along with millions of other people, famous or not.

France

Recent studies show about 40% of the population uses homeopathic remedies, and surprisingly, around 39% of doctors either recommend or prescribe them. Homeopathy is taught in all pharmacy schools and four veterinary colleges, plus at least six specialized schools for training homeopaths. Even President François Mitterrand publicly called for more research in this field. In France, homeopathic treatments are 65% covered by health insurance.

United Kingdom

According to the New England Journal of Medicine, 42% of doctors refer patients to homeopaths. Another study found that 80% of recent medical graduates want training in homeopathy, acupuncture, or hypnosis. Per The New York Times in London, homeopathy is currently the fastest-growing alternative therapy in Scotland, where 40% of those surveyed embraced it back in 1990.

There are three professional associations in the UK. One is strictly for MDs with about 1,000 members, while another includes non-physicians and has over 2,500 members. Prince Charles is a huge supporter, and thanks to him, homeopathy isn't just seen as "alternative" anymore, but as a complementary branch of medicine.

A few years ago, homeopathy started getting integrated into the national healthcare system, so you can actually find non-physician homeopaths working on teams in hospitals. There are even five dedicated homeopathic hospitals, plus general hospitals that offer a whole range of natural therapies, including homeopathy. Treatments can be reimbursed through insurance, just like other alternative therapies, and the government funds research in the field.

Germany

Maybe it's out of respect for Hahnemann or just that German precision, but homeopathy is officially recognized and legally equal to conventional medicine in Germany—and that goes for some other alternative therapies too. It's fully part of the country's healthcare system, meaning it's used in hospitals, costs are covered by health funds, and the state pays for research. Former President Karl Karstens and his wife even started a foundation specifically for homeopathic research.

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