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Sleep schedules and circadian rhythms

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silentwolf5 silentwolf5 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2015
#41 ·
Hey there.
I’ve been struggling to fall asleep for quite a while now; I just can't drift off normally no matter what I try. As far as work goes, I’ve cycled through all kinds of shifts—one stretch I was strictly on nights, then afternoons, then mornings, then just a total mess of a schedule. Out of all of them, those damn morning shifts hit me the hardest! In the evening, I can't sleep for the life of me, regardless of whether I hit the sack at 9, 10, or 11... The second I lie down, exhausted, my brain starts racing with everything and anything, goddammit, it feels like a full-blown battle is raging inside my head on the Mississippi River 🤣🤦 Then I glance at the clock and see it's already 2:30 AM, and I have to be up by 4:30, so panic sets in. I struggle again, finally pass out, but only for a few minutes before the alarm starts screaming at me. I perform perfectly fine when I first start my shift, but toward the end of the day, my concentration and physical strength just tank. By the time I get home, I can barely keep my eyes open, so I crash in bed, only to wake up about an hour and a half later feeling completely dazed and disoriented. It’s fine if I don't have a morning shift the next day; I can usually fall asleep in the evening without much trouble. But when I get stuck with five or six morning shifts in a row? That is pure hell. Soon, I'll probably be back to that 12-on/24-off rotation (I worked like that for a while once), which actually suits me best because I get a full day at home between shifts to rest, recharge, go biking, run, and just clear my head. But then, after that, the morning shifts come back and the whole nightmare repeats itself. I tried taking Normabel at 5 mg, then bumped it up to two of them (so 10 mg). Tried Pan Sanval at 5 mg, then two of those too... AND NOTHING!! It’s like I’m made of freaking concrete and steel. I tried it once and won't bother again because it's useless. Man, some people say they get tongue-tied or stop breathing from just 2 mg of Normabel, but for me, nothing happens. I'm part of the crowd, weighing 85 kg and physically pretty strong, so maybe these pills just don't reach the parts of my brain where they're supposed to 😁 I'm not even thinking about herbal teas. Honestly, it feels stupid to even ask for advice because that usually just leads to "go see a psychologist or psychiatrist," though I doubt even that would do any good.
I forgot to mention that I don't have any major life crises keeping me up at night; just the usual little annoyances everyone deals with, right 😉 and I actually love my job, so that isn't the reason for this mess either.
Anyway, I've gone on a bit of a rant here. It's 1:25 AM; maybe I'll actually fall asleep by 3 😉 :*
Morgan Brown4 Morgan Brown4 Active Member
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joined Dec 2024
#42 ·
This might not be the exact right spot for this, but I figured it’s probably the best one we’ve got. So, here goes...

I think we’ve all been there: Finally, the weekend hits. It's Friday or Saturday night, and since you don't have to work the next morning, you stay up until the crack of dawn. Maybe you were out at a bar, hitting some clubs, or just staying in for a massive movie marathon, bingeing a series, reading, or gaming... You're hitting the hay at 5 AM and sleeping in until 10. Living the dream, right?
And then, Sunday night rolls around. Because of that late night, you're still wide awake and wired. But tomorrow? Tomorrow you've got a lecture or work at 8 AM, which means being up by 6...

So, here's the deal: how do you actually fall asleep on time and get enough rest for an early start—especially when your internal clock is totally trashed from sleeping in late earlier that day? And ideally, I'd love to do this without relying on any pills or supplements.

I know that classic piece of advice: "If you can't sleep, get out of bed and do something else until you feel tired." But honestly, that's just not an option for me. I can't be wandering around aimlessly at 3 AM if I have to be up at 6...

The other choice is forcing myself to wake up early even after a short night, but man, I'd really rather avoid that misery if possible. 😁

Does anyone have any other tips or solutions for this?
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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joined Jan 2023
#43 ·
I can only tell you what my doctor suggested for my insomnia—back before I was completely reliant on sleeping pills—and that was hitting some intense physical activity for about two hours right before bed. On Sunday nights, it’s usually biking, running, hitting the local sports complex, or heading to the gym once it opens. Then, I head straight to bed.

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placidfalcon placidfalcon Member
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joined Dec 2012
#44 ·
There’s nothing you can really do about it besides changing your lifestyle and cutting out those habits. You've gotta decide what matters more: your health or...
Plus, hitting the gym hard late at night is just going to spike your cortisol and adrenaline, making everything ten times worse.
Robin Cruz21 Robin Cruz21 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2022
#45 ·
I’m in the exact same boat. If I hit the gym or go for a run late in the evening after dinner, sleep becomes a total stranger. It doesn't matter if it's a heavy lifting session or just some cardio; once my heart rate is up that late, I'm wide awake. Proven time and time again. 🤔
Nicholas Mendoza60 Nicholas Mendoza60 Member
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joined Jan 2021
#46 ·
Robin Cruz21 said:Man, I’m in the exact same boat. If I hit the gym or go for a run late at night after dinner, my brain just stays wired... can't catch any sleep for ages. Tried it way too many times already... 🤔


Same story here...
brightgull95 brightgull95 Newcomer
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joined May 2022
#47 ·
Morgan Brown4 said:...

So, does anyone actually have any other suggestions or real solutions for this mess?

Look, it’s simple. On Sunday morning, you just get up early. Then you go to bed earlier that night, and boom—you’re asleep. It’s not like you’ve been pulling four or five straight all-nighters from 8 to 8 and completely trashed your biological clock. Just wake up on time and hit the hay at a decent hour this Sunday, and that's it. Problem solved.

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