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driftingraven53 said:Hey everyone! So, I headed over to Chase today to grab my Intel debit card and got everything verified on PayPal—everything went super smoothly, thank goodness! But now I’m sitting here wondering about a few things... First off, when it comes to withdrawals to my foreign currency account, if they ask for scans of my ID and my card, what's the deal? Should I be sending them scans of both the front and back of the card? Or just the front? Or maybe the back? And if I do send both sides, should I probably hide some of the numbers for safety? I guess it's better to be careful, right? Also, I had another thought... let's say I make a deposit into Las Vegas through PayPal. Once it's finally time to withdraw the winnings, do I have to move the money from Las Vegas back to PayPal and then finally to my foreign currency account? Or is there a way to just go straight from Las Vegas to my bank account? I'm a little confused on how that flow works!😁

If you’re planning on using a card at Pinnacle, you might find yourself dealing with a bit more of a headache, I guess. But honestly, if you just stick to using PayPal, it's pretty much zero hassle. It's way smoother that way, maybe!

So, listen, if you're doing business with a card, you really have to get this done within a few days after you make your deposit—it’s super important!
So, I was thinking... if you're trying to get things set up, you probably need to scan your debit card? Just a heads-up though—make sure you scan both the front and the back! It’s super important to get both sides so everything goes through smoothly. I guess it's just easier that way, maybe? Anyway, don't forget!
So, I was thinking... maybe if you're working in Apple, you could just take a black brush and totally mask out that three-digit CVV code on the back of the card? You know, just to be safe? But, uh, I guess you should probably leave those last four digits visible so people can still identify which card is being used. Just a thought!
So, I was just thinking... if you need to scan your driver's license or ID, you should probably make sure the lighting is actually decent? I mean, maybe try sitting near a window or something? It’s kind of a pain when the glare hits the plastic and makes everything unreadable, right? Just a thought!
So, basically, you just gotta download their form, print it out, and then fill everything in. You really have to be super careful with the dates and making sure that first deposit amount matches up perfectly, too. Then you just sign it, scan the whole thing, and you're pretty much good to go!

So, you basically just gotta go through their web app—don't even bother trying to send it via email, because that's a total waste of time. And honestly? You have to be super careful, like, really meticulous. If you miss even one tiny little detail, they’re just gonna hit you with a rejection and that annoying "Try again" message. It's such a pain!

If you’re using PayPal, man, it's just so easy! You just sign up, make a deposit, play your heart out, and then hit that withdrawal button. Honestly, you don't even have to deal with any annoying documentation or paperwork, which I guess is a huge plus? Plus, getting your payouts is way faster too. It's super smooth!

Steve

driftingorca13 said:I’ve got this buddy who moves thousands upon thousands of dollars through this thing...
he actually made enough to finish building his house.

hahaha
Well, I know a guy who finished his house and then immediately started on a second one!

-briskjackal5

Brandon Castillo4 said:So, consider yourself warned. 😉

Wow, what am I supposed to do? Not sleep tonight just because you gave me a warning? If you think my reply makes zero sense, then just delete it. That’s literally what moderators are here for—if you want to play the "warning" game, go try it on a toddler.

Dana Ortiz11 said:Wow, maybe you're right, I guess I won't be able to sleep tonight now that you've warned me! Honestly, if you think my reply makes zero sense, then just go ahead and delete it. That’s basically why moderators even exist on these forums, right? Using warnings as some kind of big deal is something you should save for little kids.

That's not how it works.
It's actually him being nice to you.
I mean, it's way better to give someone a heads-up on something, and if you have even a tiny bit of common sense, you'll see what he means on your own—rather than just having stuff deleted like some mindless computer program without anyone ever being told anything.

-Steve

Alright, here’s another newbie looking for some clarity. Check out this copy-paste from Expekt:

A PayPal account works just like an online wallet. You can use PayPal to handle both deposits and withdrawals to and from your Expekt account.
Withdrawals typically take about 48 business hours to process.
To be eligible for a withdrawal via PayPal, you have to meet one of these requirements:

1. ALL deposits made into your Expekt account must have been done through PayPal.

2. The amount you want to withdraw cannot exceed the total amount you originally deposited into your gambling account using PayPal.

I'm a bit confused by that bolded part; if I deposited $100 via PayPal, won the bet, and now have $200 in my balance, and I want to cash out that full $200 (which is more than what I initially put in), what happens then?🤷

If everything was handled via MB, you can make a withdrawal—provided you've checked off one of those two requirements.

Could someone give me a hand here?
I just opened up a foreign currency checking account over at Chase and got my Visa card. I went ahead and signed up for PayPal to try and upload some funds, but after I typed in all the numbers and details and hit "add," it keeps giving me an error saying I need to enter a valid card number 😕
. I’ve double-checked everything five times now, and I am positive the number is correct. What should I do? Is there some way to enter a "more correct" number?

Also, on the section where they ask if I'm going to use the money for GAMBLING, I told them yes. Should I be honest about that, or is it better to lie?

I went through the same process, but here’s the kicker: as soon as I finish typing everything in, it tells me my card is locked. Meanwhile, my buddy is doing the exact same thing at the same Chase branch we both visited, and everything works perfectly for him. Now they’re asking me for a photo of my ID and proof of residence (honestly, I have no clue what they actually want me to send... does anyone have any ideas???)
I tried both options regarding the purpose of the transaction—whether it's for GAMBLING or not—but I just keep hitting the same wall.

I gave it another shot today and, honestly, still no luck. It’s the exact same headache I had yesterday. It’s not even getting to the point where they ask me to send anything; the app just pops up out of nowhere and tells me to enter a "valid card number" instead!

Has anyone else run into this kind of glitch? Cafa? Leonard Nimoy? briskjackal5? skeeve? Or maybe someone else entirely?

First off, the whole GAMBLING vs. NON-GAMBLING setting is basically designed to protect us from ourselves. There’s zero difference when you make a deposit, and you don't owe anyone anything regardless of which box you check. The only catch is that if you select NON-GAMBLING, you won't be able to send money to casinos or sportsbooks. If you pick GAMBLING, then you're good to go. We all know how typical gamblers act—they'll bet their last dime even when they're down. By choosing this option, you can decide ahead of time that the cash you're moving isn't meant to be blown on a losing streak, but saved for something else. At the end of the day, you put in what you want, and PayPal doesn't care what you do with your cash.

Regarding card issues, they definitely pop up. On my wife's account, she got hit with an error message during her very first deposit saying it couldn't be processed for some reason. Since I handle almost everything through my own account anyway, and my limit is already set to the max, I didn't bother digging too deep into it. Just send them whatever documentation they're asking for; clearly, they aren't going to take "no" for an answer. Personally, I just use my card to deposit directly with the sportsbook, especially since PayPal has such a low limit for card deposits—around $1,000. It disappears way too fast. Withdrawals, however, work perfectly fine.

One thing you really should do before trying your first card deposit is verify it. They’ll pull a tiny, random amount—like $2 or $3—from your account, and you have to input that exact amount. This doesn't fail; the money just stays in your PayPal balance, and after that, deposits work smoothly. If you haven't done this yet, give it a shot. If you already have, then your only options are sending them the paperwork they want or just depositing via your card directly to the sportsbook.

Alexander Hill2 said:First off, the whole GAMBLING vs. NON-GAMBLING choice is really just there to protect us from ourselves. It doesn't change anything regarding the deposit process, and you don't owe anyone an explanation regardless of which one you pick. It’s just that if you select NON-GAMBLING, you won't be able to send money to bookies or casinos. But if you go with GAMBLING, then you can. We all know how typical gamblers act—they'll bet their last cent when things aren't going their way. So, you might want to decide ahead of time that the money you're depositing isn't meant to be gambled away, but used for something else. Basically, you put in what you want, and PayPal doesn't really care what you do with the cash.

Regarding cards, yeah, issues tend to pop up. My wife actually ran into a problem right away; on her very first deposit, it just said it couldn't go through for some reason. Since I pretty much handle everything through my own account anyway, and my limit is already maxed out, I haven't really looked into it too deeply. Honestly, just send them whatever they're asking for, because apparently, there's no other way around it. Personally, I just deposit directly to the bookie using my card, since PayPal has such a low limit for card deposits anyway—around $1,000. That gets old fast. Withdrawals, though, seem to work fine.

One thing you should probably do before trying your first card deposit is verify it. They'll pull a tiny, random amount—like maybe $2 or $3—from your account, and you have to enter the exact amount to confirm it. That shouldn't fail; the money stays in your PayPal account, and after that, deposits should work normally. If you haven't done that yet, give it a shot. If you already have, then I guess your options are either sending them documents or just depositing straight to the bookie via card.

Nothing new in what you wrote. That first part? Yeah, we all knew that; it doesn't change much.
They ask for this verification while you're entering your details—you check the box saying you agree to let them verify it, hit "add card," and then it happens. In my case, it told me my card was locked for external transactions and demanded I send over my ID and proof of address. I sent everything over perfectly, but it's been two days and I haven't heard a peep. Meanwhile, I have zero issues making deposits and withdrawals on other poker sites. Their support is basically non-existent.

Alexander Hill2 said:What you really ought to do before making your first deposit via card is verify it first. They’ll pull a tiny random amount—like maybe $2 or $3—from your account, and you just have to enter that exact amount. It won't fail; it just stays on your MB balance, and from there, all your deposits work perfectly fine. If you haven't done that yet, give it a shot, but if you already have, I'd say either send them an email or just go ahead and deposit directly from your card to the bookie.

So, I followed their FAQ instructions to the letter this time and it actually worked! Well, sort of. I was doing the same thing I did when I just clicked "upload funds," but I realized I needed to verify by entering the precise amount they snatched from my foreign currency account. I checked my Chase app to be sure, and they definitely took $2.47.
But then, as soon as I typed it into their verification screen, it popped up with You have entered the incorrect amount... WTF?
Now I'm stuck waiting 24 hours before I can even try again.
Does anyone know if Chase might be charging some kind of transaction fee that's making the amount shown on my bank statement different from what PayPal actually grabbed?

Since I've set aside about $3,000 for online gambling, I'm curious what you'd suggest? Should I move all my cash over to PayPal, or is it better to just deposit directly to the sites using my card (like Las Vegas, which is probably where I'll be playing the most)?

Dennis Lewis50 said:They told me my card was locked for international transactions and asked me to send over my ID and proof of address. I sent everything right away, but I haven't heard a peep back in two days. Meanwhile, I can make deposits and withdrawals on all my other poker sites without any issues at all. Their support team is basically useless right now.

Hmm, I don't quite get how a card specifically designed for online shopping could suddenly be blocked from doing exactly that. Who knows, maybe Chase messed something up on their end...
I think I read somewhere once that it can actually take up to a week for them to get back to you. 🙄

amberpanther57 said:Hmm, I don't quite get how a card specifically designed for online transactions could be blocked from doing exactly that. Who knows, maybe Chase messed something up on their end...
I read somewhere that support can sometimes take up to a week just to get back to you 🙄

Regarding support, it really depends on what you're looking for, but if it's about the card verification process, everything you need is right here on this forum—just look in a different section (check the PayPal topic over in the finance subforum), or check out

amberpanther57 said:Since I've set aside about $3,000 for online GAMBLING, I’m looking for advice. Should I move all my funds through PayPal, or just go straight to the sites using my card (like Pinnacle, which is probably where I'll be spending most of my time)?

That’s a healthy bankroll. Honestly, if you’re planning on making frequent deposits and withdrawals, you'll hit those transaction limits before you know it. And why wouldn't you just go direct if the option is there? In my experience, going straight through your card is free, whereas PayPal can end up hitting you with extra fees in certain situations.

amberpanther57 said:Hmm, I don't really get how a card specifically designed for online transactions could be locked out of doing exactly that. Who knows, maybe Chase messed something up on their end...
I think I read somewhere that their support can take up to a week just to get back to you. 🙄

Yesterday, I had no trouble making a smooth deposit into an online casino and over at Bwin. But MB? Total brick wall. I actually got a letter today asking me to verify my address. Everything went fine and all, but the card is still showing as locked. I sent over my ID, driver's license, both sides of my Intel card, the address verification letter, and a bank statement. If they don't unlock this thing now, I might actually lose it...

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So, let's talk about online gambling for a second. Here’s just one little example of why you might want to steer clear of BetMGM.
I was playing some poker with my last 50 bucks, and man, I was on fire. I actually managed to turn that into 680 bucks in just about an hour. It feels like a ton of money to me, but I guess it doesn't mean much to them. Naturally, I went ahead and requested a withdrawal immediately. But then, when I logged back in the next day, my account was disabled. Of course, I reached out to BetMGM support, and all I got was this email.
Thank you for your email dated February 15, 2008. Per the decision made by our financial
> department, your account has been closed for security reasons and, unfortunately, will not be reopened. The withdrawal
> of 682.04 USD is being processed and the funds will be credited to your visa card. We
> apologize for any inconvenience. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact us. Best
> regards, the BetMGM support team

Alexander Hill2 said:It’s a pretty decent way to do things, though if you’re constantly moving money in and out, you’ll hit those transaction limits before you know it. Plus, why bother using an intermediary if you don't have to? In my experience, going direct is usually free, whereas Moneybookers can end up hitting you with extra fees depending on the situation.

Thnx.
Everything is working smoothly on my end now, but looking at those limits, it seems like Moneybookers really restricts what you can actually do. I think I'll still use them for one smaller portion of my funds, but for everything else, I'm just going to deposit directly into the betting sites.

So, I just made my first deposit over at Betway :klap:. Got a couple of quick questions. My Chase Visa debit card doesn't seem to have those three security digits on it, so I ended up using my Mastercard instead. Where am I supposed to find those numbers on a Visa if they actually exist? Or does Chase just not play ball with online payments? Also, what’s the absolute easiest way to get my cash out once I finally win something—after accounting for the massive losses and all the "stupid tax" I've paid to the universe? :asshole: 😬🙂