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Nancy Bishop4 Nancy Bishop4 Member
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#941 ·
Steven Fox37 said:It’s honestly hard for me to take any Ukrainian claims at face value when they've already shown how willing they are to twist the truth and play games. Of course the Russians disagree too, but they aren't the only ones, and the Russians aren't the only ones being backed by the entire Western media mainstream that prints every single lie as gospel across a million newspapers and sites.
The whole "fake state" thing isn't really relevant here because nothing would satisfy those Chetniks except a "Greater Mexico." A better comparison would be Americans living in certain parts of the country who have been getting pushed around by local factions for decades.
If Americans reacted tomorrow the same way people in Donbas and Luhansk do, I highly doubt anyone would call them "Chetniks." In fact, it would probably be the exact opposite—people would likely be talking about signing up for a volunteer militia, and suddenly nobody would care about "internationally recognized borders" anymore. Isn't it funny how easily "the right to self-determination" and other lofty terms get tossed in the trash the moment someone we don't like uses them? It’s the same deal with Catalans, Basques, Scots, or Irish; we support them even though their goals don't align with official borders.

Yeah, because Canada and Ukraine are exactly the same.🤦
Jacob Price95 Jacob Price95 Active Member
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#942 ·
boldbadger1 said:Yeah, chasing Russian money ☕is a losing game

"The key to the special operation launched by Russia lies in the biolabs in Ukraine. There are 13 of them, including one located on Snake Island. The Russians targeted those labs first to shut them down—they were supposedly set up to produce biological weapons," he added. Lošo claims that Ukraine didn't actually have control over these facilities; instead, they let some occult oligarchy set them up on their soil

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Some kind of bio-labs exist, claims this nothing lady, though we all know she knows more about Ukraine than her own pocket does

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...YkmoKiPJabX3ow
Karen Hill40 Karen Hill40 Member
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#943 ·
Lowe spent five days guesting on my local radio station, and by some stroke of luck, I happened to be driving home right when he was on air. He was spouting such monumental nonsense that I was actually getting annoyed at first, but eventually, I just started treating it like a comedy sketch. The whole thing was basically a promotional tour for his book, 'The American Warrior,' where he tries to explain how the greatest warriors in history were all Americans. To top it all off, he ends by saying the book isn't even in stores—if you want a copy, you have to come straight to my house to get it. 🤣
Thomas Hayes Thomas Hayes Active Member
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#944 ·
Karen Hill40 said:Lowe spent five days guesting on my local radio station, and by some stroke of luck, I happened to be driving home right when he was on air. He was spouting such monumental nonsense that I was actually getting annoyed at first, but eventually, I just started treating it like a comedy sketch. The whole thing was basically a promotional tour for his book, 'The American Warrior,' where he tries to explain how the greatest warriors in history were all Americans. To top it all off, he ends by saying the book isn't even in stores—if you want a copy, you have to come straight to my house to get it. 🤣


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Jonathan Barnes5 Jonathan Barnes5 Active Member
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#945 ·
The real issue with guys like Lowe, Sharif, and most of the Mexicans over at North American info is that you just can't seem to stop tuning in. It’s exactly like @Nabat said—you find yourself just waiting for the next massive disaster to drop.

But if you ever find yourself wondering about your own value in the job market or whether you actually have what it takes, just take a look at where some of these people started out. There are some genuinely impressive resumes in that crowd, even within the private sector.
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
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#946 ·
Karen Hill40 said:Lowe spent five days guesting on my local radio station, and by some stroke of luck, I happened to be driving home right when he was on air. He was spouting such monumental nonsense that I was actually getting annoyed at first, but eventually, I just started treating it like a comedy sketch. The whole thing was basically a promotional tour for his book, 'The American Warrior,' where he tries to explain how the greatest warriors in history were all Americans. To top it all off, he ends by saying the book isn't even in stores—if you want a copy, you have to come straight to my house to get it. 🤣

Give me a break. 🤣 🤣🤣
Nancy Bishop4 Nancy Bishop4 Member
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joined Aug 2016
#947 ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:The real issue with guys like Lowe, Sharif, and most of the Mexicans over at North American info is that you just can't seem to stop tuning in. It’s exactly like @Nabat said—you find yourself just waiting for the next massive disaster to drop.

But if you ever find yourself wondering about your own value in the job market or whether you actually have what it takes, just take a look at where some of these people started out. There are some genuinely impressive resumes in that crowd, even within the private sector.

Honestly, why is that even surprising? Someone can be a top-tier expert in their field and still be completely out of their mind. 🤷
driftingraven27 driftingraven27 Newcomer
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#948 ·
Which Russian official is going to be handing over those artillery logs to the Hague?
Matthew Collins20 Matthew Collins20 Active Member
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#949 ·
Garry Kasparov on Tucker Carlson, whom Brolin was praising earlier here
Jonathan Barnes5 Jonathan Barnes5 Active Member
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#950 ·
Nancy Bishop4 said:Honestly, why is that even surprising? Someone can be a top-tier expert in their field and still be completely out of their mind. 🤷

But those are highly specialized skill sets, so I certainly see your point. I know plenty of people who operate on that spectrum, perhaps with a touch of autism or ADHD, for instance. However, to actually serve as an admiral, you really need to be looking at the big picture. It isn't just about someone like Lowe being a master at reading radar on a single ship...
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
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#951 ·
Karen Hill40 said:Lowe spent five days guesting on my local radio station, and by some stroke of luck, I happened to be driving home right when he was on air. He was spouting such monumental nonsense that I was actually getting annoyed at first, but eventually, I just started treating it like a comedy sketch. The whole thing was basically a promotional tour for his book, 'The American Warrior,' where he tries to explain how the greatest warriors in history were all Americans. To top it all off, he ends by saying the book isn't even in stores—if you want a copy, you have to come straight to my house to get it. 🤣

Yeah, exactly—that’s precisely how it went down at the meetup I attended. He actually brought along a few books he was looking to sell, but honestly, everything else just ended up being custom orders straight from him. 🙂

Skrtac, they don't even have a dime left to pay the accountants. 🙂
Noah Roberts46 Noah Roberts46 Regular
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joined Jun 2021
#952 ·
Kyle Campbell4 said:The situations are completely incomparable, and that isn't just due to geography. In Iraq, Americans were welcomed as liberators by the Sunnis and the Kurds. You likely belong to that generation born in the 90s, so you have no real grasp of the devastation Saddam caused. This isn't the same as a global intervention against a dictator, nor is it the same as a powerful neighbor in the heart of Europe deciding to invade a weaker neighbor out of pure spite, especially one structured as a democracy. Let me put it bluntly: it is not the same thing when a midget bombs people in sandals as it is when someone launches an invasion on their immediate neighbor just because they’ve developed a massive ego and think they're the new Czar.

Look, I get it—Saddam was a dictator and a criminal—but that invasion had zero justification. I have to ask: would all those people have died if there hadn't been an invasion? Just because one group welcomed the USA as liberators doesn't prove anything. I could make the exact same argument that a certain group of Russians in Ukraine welcomed Vladimir Putin as a liberator. Your criteria are hypocritical. We all know the real motivation was economic interest, much like what happened later in Libya and Syria. It's the same pattern we see now in Ukraine, where Russia is operating right in areas with new energy resources that would give them a massive economic edge if Ukrainians were able to exploit them, especially with their move toward the EU. Trying to justify that war is ridiculous, and frankly, most people in America agree. It’s just as absurd to try and justify this current war.

They went in there looking for weapons of mass destruction and alleged ties to Osama bin Laden following 9/11, even though those groups hated each other. In the end, it turned out none of that was a legitimate reason. If we are going to intervene in every single country where there's a rebel faction based on human rights violations and dictatorships, why don't we go into Saudi Arabia then? Talk about double standards. Who is responsible for the millions of casualties? Where were the sanctions? If the West isn't to blame, then who exactly is, in your opinion?

And honestly, the more I think about it, the more that "heart of Europe" argument sounds laughable to me. It also used to infuriate me seeing all that performative outrage after the terrorist attacks in France, where everyone was waving flags without having any clue how it actually happened. My level of sympathy for the French and the Ukrainians is the same as it is for the people in Syria and Yemen. Which is to say: none at all. A human life is a human life; everything else is just political nonsense.
Nancy Bishop4 Nancy Bishop4 Member
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#953 ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:But those are highly specialized skill sets, so I certainly see your point. I know plenty of people who operate on that spectrum, perhaps with a touch of autism or ADHD, for instance. However, to actually serve as an admiral, you really need to be looking at the big picture. It isn't just about someone like Lowe being a master at reading radar on a single ship...

Look, he wasn't losing it thirty years ago. What we're seeing is a clear progression of an illness, and it seems to be accelerating quite rapidly over the last decade.
Noah Roberts46 Noah Roberts46 Regular
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#954 ·
Carl Hernandez3 said:Saddam was busy using chemical weapons against the Kurds—absolutely devastating—while simultaneously moving in to occupy Kuwait.
Just imagine—Zelensky actually managed to insult the Russians and then went ahead and occupied Moldova. Truly wild stuff.

Kyle Campbell4 said:He is just a mix of Assad and Saddam. He hasn't the slightest clue about the Kurds or chemical weapons. Everything from the invasion of Kuwait for oil to the prior attack on Iran—he dismisses all of it as if everything Assad did was merely propaganda 😁 when the reality is that every single clown tries to meddle in affairs where they don't belong, but since the topic is trending, he feels compelled to offer his "insight."

You people have no clue. The invasion of Kuwait happened in the early 90s—how could that possibly be a reason for an invasion in the 2000s? We are talking about actual motives here. I know the history of Iraq and Iran well enough. I have zero issues with Saddam being taken down since he was a criminal, especially if it had happened back in the early 90s. But should they have occupied territory thirteen years later and slaughtered so many civilians just for that? To grab their oil? Don't give me that bullshit.

What I'm saying is that the US intervention in Syria, where they claimed Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons on his own people without any real proof, ended up being proven wrong. The USA even admitted to arming ISIS, but you all conveniently ignore that. It seems to me that some people only bother with geopolitics when something relevant is happening in Europe, without having any grasp of global affairs because, frankly, they don't give a damn. This is a perfect example.🤦
Jacob Price95 Jacob Price95 Active Member
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#955 ·
Noah Roberts46 said:You people have no clue. The invasion of Kuwait happened in the early 90s—how could that possibly be a reason for an invasion in the 2000s? We are talking about actual motives here. I know the history of Iraq and Iran well enough. I have zero issues with Saddam being taken down since he was a criminal, especially if it had happened back in the early 90s. But should they have occupied territory thirteen years later and slaughtered so many civilians just for that? To grab their oil? Don't give me that bullshit.

What I'm saying is that the US intervention in Syria, where they claimed Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons on his own people without any real proof, ended up being proven wrong. The USA even admitted to arming ISIS, but you all conveniently ignore that. It seems to me that some people only bother with geopolitics when something relevant is happening in Europe, without having any grasp of global affairs because, frankly, they don't give a damn. This is a perfect example.🤦

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Nancy Bishop4 Nancy Bishop4 Member
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#956 ·
Noah Roberts46 said:You people have no clue. The invasion of Kuwait happened in the early 90s—how could that possibly be a reason for an invasion in the 2000s? We are talking about actual motives here. I know the history of Iraq and Iran well enough. I have zero issues with Saddam being taken down since he was a criminal, especially if it had happened back in the early 90s. But should they have occupied territory thirteen years later and slaughtered so many civilians just for that? To grab their oil? Don't give me that bullshit.

What I'm saying is that the US intervention in Syria, where they claimed Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons on his own people without any real proof, ended up being proven wrong. The USA even admitted to arming ISIS, but you all conveniently ignore that. It seems to me that some people only bother with geopolitics when something relevant is happening in Europe, without having any grasp of global affairs because, frankly, they don't give a damn. This is a perfect example.🤦

By the way, the vast majority of those civilians were killed by the Iraqis themselves using various improvised explosive devices.
Nobody went into Iraq to steal oil.🙄
And for the record, Americans don't deny the existence of Iraq or the Iraqi people the way the Russians do with Ukrainians.
Noah Roberts46 Noah Roberts46 Regular
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#957 ·
Nancy Bishop4 said:By the way, the vast majority of those civilians were killed by the Iraqis themselves using various improvised explosive devices.
Nobody went into Iraq to steal oil.🙄
And for the record, Americans don't deny the existence of Iraq or the Iraqi people the way the Russians do with Ukrainians.

Would they have been massacred if there hadn't been an intervention? Honestly, Americans killed more people there than the Russians are killing Ukrainians right now (and let's hope the Russians don't cross that line). You can't just parachute democracy and Western values into a country that operates on a completely different mindset and culture. It doesn't work. How many interventions have we seen that left things in a state even worse than when they started? A hell of a lot. And it’s not just about wrecking a region; the fallout hits Europe directly. You end up having to deal with massive refugee waves and try to assimilate them into the Western way of life, not to mention the inevitable terrorist attacks.

God, those former Eastern Bloc countries have been struggling just to get their democratic institutions and market economies off the ground—and honestly, they're still fighting that battle. It’s because those systems had centuries to mature in the West. You really think you can just drop those same concepts into a total wasteland like that? Give me a break. Get out of here.

The mainstream media is at it again, spinning narratives that barely scratch the surface of what’s actually happening on the ground. This latest report is just more of the same—surface-level analysis masquerading as deep reporting while the real geopolitical implications get swept under the rug. It’s frustratingly shallow. We see these massive shifts in power and international tension, yet the coverage remains stuck in a loop of predictable talking points. Honestly, if you want the truth, you have to look way past these polished headlines.

Honestly, I’d much rather have someone deny my very existence than watch them tear this country apart. I'd take being erased over seeing the nation dismantled and plunged into a state of chaos that lasts for two decades. 🤣

The strikes on the oligarchs by the USA are nothing more than a distraction from the current Russian warfare.
William Gomez5 William Gomez5 Active Member
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#958 ·
Uber Eats bumped the delivery fee from like $7.00 up to $7.50 now.

See, those are the real issues we're facing here.
Steven Fox37 Steven Fox37 Active Member
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#959 ·
Kyle Campbell4 said:I find it quite easy to believe, because I seriously doubt the Ukrainians would be the first to start raining artillery fire on separatists while expecting a massive invasion of their own country any day now. There is absolutely no connection there. But you, however, choose to blindly trust the Russian dictatorship. Naturally, everyone stands on the side of the one who was attacked and invaded. The comparisons to the frontier are entirely appropriate. They were the majority population in occupied territory, pushed out the dissenters, and seized the narrative that they were being threatened by the majority population. Just like the Russian militants in Donbas. It is strange how the Russian minority in other parts of Ukraine isn't feeling threatened; in fact, they fight heartily against the aggressors and consider Ukraine their home, yet this group of militants in the east suddenly finds itself under threat. This is cheap propaganda that only fools fall for. Realize once and for all that there is no Soviet Union, there is no empire, and there is no Tsar. Those eras are long gone. The little guy you idolize so much will ultimately become a victim of his own people. The only question left is whether they handle him quickly or throw him in a cell.

I know you think none of this matters because, in your eyes, the saintly Ukrainians would never do something like that.
How do you actually know the Russian minority in other areas is fighting the aggressor? Is it because you watched a few clips served up to you by the Ukrainians or the Mainstream Media and decided that's the whole story? This seems to be the pattern with everything you write here. Whatever the Ukrainians say is 100% truth... until a few days later when it turns out the video was actually from a video game, or those "brave fallen heroes" are actually still alive, and so on. And then your new allies—the New York Times reporters and those purple-haired Twitter libtards—write about how we shouldn't criticize such lying because it's "good" propaganda.
The Soviets, the empire, the Tsar, the little guy you're obsessed with... you're basically just copy-pasting the same lines from post to post now. 🤣

Nancy Bishop4 said:Yeah, because Canada and Ukraine are exactly the same.🤦

Well obviously they aren't. In one case, our guys are fighting, and in the other, it's the bad Russians.

William Gomez5 said:Uber Eats bumped the delivery fee from like $7.00 up to $7.50 now.

See, those are the real issues we're facing here.

I ordered for the first time about a week ago (I resisted as long as I could, DoorDash was doing the job fine) and the geniuses added a "bad weather surcharge" of $4-$1.75 And there isn't even a single drop of rain in sight.
Nancy Bishop4 Nancy Bishop4 Member
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#960 ·
Noah Roberts46 said:Would they have been massacred if there hadn't been an intervention? Honestly, Americans killed more people there than the Russians are killing Ukrainians right now (and let's hope the Russians don't cross that line). You can't just parachute democracy and Western values into a country that operates on a completely different mindset and culture. It doesn't work. How many interventions have we seen that left things in a state even worse than when they started? A hell of a lot. And it’s not just about wrecking a region; the fallout hits Europe directly. You end up having to deal with massive refugee waves and try to assimilate them into the Western way of life, not to mention the inevitable terrorist attacks.

God, those former Eastern Bloc countries have been struggling just to get their democratic institutions and market economies off the ground—and honestly, they're still fighting that battle. It’s because those systems had centuries to mature in the West. You really think you can just drop those same concepts into a total wasteland like that? Give me a break. Get out of here.

The mainstream media is at it again, spinning narratives that barely scratch the surface of what’s actually happening on the ground. This latest report is just more of the same—surface-level analysis masquerading as deep reporting while the real geopolitical implications get swept under the rug. It’s frustratingly shallow. We see these massive shifts in power and international tension, yet the coverage remains stuck in a loop of predictable talking points. Honestly, if you want the truth, you have to look way past these polished headlines.

Honestly, I’d much rather have someone deny my very existence than watch them tear this country apart. I'd take being erased over seeing the nation dismantled and plunged into a state of chaos that lasts for two decades. 🤣

The strikes on the oligarchs by the USA are nothing more than a distraction from the current Russian warfare.

Lol, would they have been slaughtered? Maybe. If Americans hadn't gone to war with Iran, maybe they would've been killed even more. Maybe it would have turned into a civil war like in Syria, or maybe Saddam would have started using poison gas again—maybe, maybe.

Sure, and we can just blame the Americans for everything. Is that any different from blaming the Republican Party for how long they've held power here?
The fundamental issues in those countries aren't actually about the USA; it's because most of them are Frankenstein states. They don't make sense in their current forms, and honestly, most should probably break up into several smaller nations that are ethnically and religiously homogeneous.

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