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Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
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joined Oct 2017
#901 ·
wiredfalcon2 said:Also, from what I can gather, people haven't slept for days in places like Yemen, Chad, or Honduras because they're losing their minds worrying about Ukraine.

I have to agree with you there. ☕

It’s only human nature to care more about what feels close to home, isn't it? Even if it's a bit further away, something happening in Honduras is going to grab your attention way faster than something in Yemen—mostly just because there's a bit more cultural overlap to latch onto. Let's be honest, there is a massive amount of hypocrisy floating around everywhere if we really stop to look at it.
Kyle Lopez2 Kyle Lopez2 Active Member
94 messages
joined Apr 2018
#902 ·
boldbadger1 said:

Admiral Lošo—that pro-Russian genius—just went absolutely nuclear, hitting at a level ten intensity. He’s connected everything—from COVID and reptiles to the Khazars and the October Revolution—all just to argue that Ukrainians aren't even a real nation and are basically Nazis. 😬

He keeps saying, "everyone is asking where I am," but honestly, after five minutes of listening to that podcast, it's pretty obvious he was just getting some "specialized training" in Moscow. 😬


Lošo is a pro at this pro-Russian nonsense, hitting it out of the park with ninety—actually, maybe a hundred—percent accuracy. He’s managed to tie everything together, from COVID and reptilians to the Khazars and the October Revolution, all just to argue that Ukrainians aren't a real nation and are basically Nazis. 😬

He claims "everyone's asking where I am," but honestly, five minutes into the podcast, it's pretty obvious he was just getting some "re-education" over in Moscow. 😬[/I]

This is what I’ve been waiting for for days. When the war started and there was no sign of Lošo, I wondered why. Personally, I think he's "smart" only if you can spot the propaganda and see who he's actually pulling for, which has been the Russians for quite a while now. Though lately, it's getting harder to find anything remotely intelligent coming from him.

I still remember when the guy was presenting the Sarmat as this unstoppable weapon that the West has no answer for, when in reality, the Sarmat hasn't even flown yet—it's barely at the prototype stage.🤣 🤣
Noah Roberts46 Noah Roberts46 Regular
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joined Jun 2021
#903 ·
wiredfalcon2 said:So basically, you feel just as bad in both these scenarios:
a) I wreck one of my best buddies from the neighborhood
b) I screw over some random guy in Polynesia you didn't even know existed

What a parallel. 🤣

Obviously, I feel worse about Ukraine because it's closer to home and culturally similar to us. I'm just saying the moralizing is ridiculous; back then, I don't recall seeing signs everywhere calling Obama a war criminal or a psychopath, or Bush for that matter. At least not to that extent. And I didn't see all this whining about sanctions either. You can't lecture others on morality when you're doing the exact same thing. A human life is a human life, period.
fadedridge903 fadedridge903 Member
43 messages
joined Feb 2022
#904 ·
Kyle Campbell4 said:How? Yes and no. There was a ceasefire in effect until the separatists started the provocations and the shelling themselves, all just to give that midget an excuse to bring the army in. And even if they did what you claim, they still have every right to liberate their own territory within internationally recognized borders, rather than letting those Russian chetniks carve out some kind of frontier.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2022-02-18/

MOSCOW, Feb 18 (Reuters) - Ukraine announced the evacuation of its breakaway region's residents to Southeast Russia on Friday after an increase in shelling.
Amy Bennett Amy Bennett Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#905 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:Who?

From what I can see, we've got two major hits today—the US banned Russian energy imports, and the Poles agreed to hand over Migs to the Ukrainians. 🤷

A blow to whom, though? NATO? The Americans and the Britons have been nudging the Poles and other Eastern European nations to send planes into Ukraine, but once the Poles passed the buck back to the US—stating they’re willing to send aircraft to an American base in Germany so the US can handle the delivery to Ukraine—the Pentagon shot it down. They're saying nothing will happen because launching jets from American or NATO bases is too risky, yet they still maintain that sending planes directly from Poland is entirely up to Polish discretion.

I mean, hello? Poland is a NATO member too. It seems pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that the Americans and the Britons want to throw the Poles into the fire to test the waters—that way, they can distance themselves if Putin decides to retaliate.
Jacob Price95 Jacob Price95 Active Member
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joined Jun 2020
#906 ·
Kyle Lopez2 said:Lošo is a pro at this pro-Russian nonsense, hitting it out of the park with ninety—actually, maybe a hundred—percent accuracy. He’s managed to tie everything together, from COVID and reptilians to the Khazars and the October Revolution, all just to argue that Ukrainians aren't a real nation and are basically Nazis. 😬

He claims "everyone's asking where I am," but honestly, five minutes into the podcast, it's pretty obvious he was just getting some "re-education" over in Moscow. 😬[/I]

This is what I’ve been waiting for for days. When the war started and there was no sign of Lošo, I wondered why. Personally, I think he's "smart" only if you can spot the propaganda and see who he's actually pulling for, which has been the Russians for quite a while now. Though lately, it's getting harder to find anything remotely intelligent coming from him.

I still remember when the guy was presenting the Sarmat as this unstoppable weapon that the West has no answer for, when in reality, the Sarmat hasn't even flown yet—it's barely at the prototype stage.🤣 🤣

Exactly 🤣

Honestly, the one thing I’m missing most in this whole conflict is Lazanski; his takes would be worth their weight in gold right about now. 🙏 🤣
Anthony Wright30 Anthony Wright30 Active Member
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joined Oct 2017
#907 ·
Amy Bennett said:A blow to whom, though? NATO? The Americans and the Britons have been nudging the Poles and other Eastern European nations to send planes into Ukraine, but once the Poles passed the buck back to the US—stating they’re willing to send aircraft to an American base in Germany so the US can handle the delivery to Ukraine—the Pentagon shot it down. They're saying nothing will happen because launching jets from American or NATO bases is too risky, yet they still maintain that sending planes directly from Poland is entirely up to Polish discretion.

I mean, hello? Poland is a NATO member too. It seems pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that the Americans and the Britons want to throw the Poles into the fire to test the waters—that way, they can distance themselves if Putin decides to retaliate.

Right, because it’s perfectly clear to every fool out there that some evil American is pulling all the strings, while the good Russian is busy saving the world from Nazis in Ukraine. They are quite clearly just liberating concentration camps around Kyiv.
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
491 messages
joined Mar 2005
#908 ·
Noah Roberts46 said:What a parallel. 🤣

Obviously, I feel worse about Ukraine because it's closer to home and culturally similar to us. I'm just saying the moralizing is ridiculous; back then, I don't recall seeing signs everywhere calling Obama a war criminal or a psychopath, or Bush for that matter. At least not to that extent. And I didn't see all this whining about sanctions either. You can't lecture others on morality when you're doing the exact same thing. A human life is a human life, period.

For those of you who are still learning how internet speak works, isn't this a textbook case of virtue signaling? Here we have user Noah Roberts46 explaining to us how someone else is a hypocrite—when he’s actually the one being hypocritical.

Now, let me give you my two cents. For you to actually care about something, you have to know about it first. When 35 people die in Peru because a bus flips over, you barely even glance at the headline. You don't give a damn. That's just basic human nature. Until you see the news, you didn't even know those people existed. You can't care about something you don't know exists. It's the same with distant wars—people might be against them in theory, but to actually feel something, you have to get to know the people involved; they need to take on human characteristics that you recognize. Going back to Peru, if some kid falls into a well and they spend seven days trying to rescue him, and we follow the story, and then classmates and parents start talking about it—suddenly we care, because that kid has gained a human element that we can relate to.

Claiming you shouldn't care any less about someone in Yemen than someone next door, and calling someone a hypocrite for that, is just a fundamental failure to understand psychology. Besides, you end up doing the same thing anyway, which is why every single war uses propaganda to try and dehumanize the enemy—so that we won't care about them.
Amy Bennett Amy Bennett Active Member
76 messages
joined Feb 2018
#909 ·
wiredfalcon2 said:So basically, you feel just as bad in both these scenarios:
a) I wreck one of my best buddies from the neighborhood
b) I screw over some random guy in Polynesia you didn't even know existed

Look at this specialist here—defending American brawls just because they happen under the Stars and Stripes.
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
491 messages
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#910 ·
So, the EC just dropped a proposal to slash reliance on Russian gas by two-thirds before the year is out. They’re heading to Versailles tomorrow to hash it all out.
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
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#911 ·
Amy Bennett said:Look at this specialist here—defending American brawls just because they happen under the Stars and Stripes.

Look at this absolute tool, can't even wrap their head around the fact that nobody's out here defending American thugs—totally missed the whole point.
Amy Bennett Amy Bennett Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#912 ·
Anthony Wright30 said:Right, because it’s perfectly clear to every fool out there that some evil American is pulling all the strings, while the good Russian is busy saving the world from Nazis in Ukraine. They are quite clearly just liberating concentration camps around Kyiv.

But hold on a second—who was the untouchable global hegemon until very recently? Whose unipolar order have we all been living under since the 90s?

We're Europeans. It feels like it should be about time for Europe to finally become sovereign, rather than just acting like someone else's errand girl.
Amy Bennett Amy Bennett Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#913 ·
wiredfalcon2 said:Look at this absolute tool, can't even wrap their head around the fact that nobody's out here defending American thugs—totally missed the whole point.

You were defending them before based on the idea that they're victims from halfway across the world. So, why the sudden change in story?
ironranger67 ironranger67 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#914 ·
Admiral Lošo seems pretty rattled—honestly, it feels like the Russians might have finally asked him, "Why on earth are we even paying you?" 🤣
Even if we decide to just tune out all those conspiracy theories of his, he still managed to churn out a whole string of inaccuracies regarding Russian military hardware and their overall capabilities. His biggest stretch, though, was claiming that the Russians are some kind of top-tier experts when it comes to anti-electronic warfare. 🙏🤣
Anthony Wright30 Anthony Wright30 Active Member
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joined Oct 2017
#915 ·
Amy Bennett said:But hold on a second—who was the untouchable global hegemon until very recently? Whose unipolar order have we all been living under since the 90s?

We're Europeans. It feels like it should be about time for Europe to finally become sovereign, rather than just acting like someone else's errand girl.

Perhaps bringing back the Warsaw Pact wouldn't be the worst thing; things have been quite difficult across Eastern Europe from the 90s onward. Between the Czechs, the Poles, and the Baltic states, everyone seems to be practically gasping for freedom.
Amy Bennett Amy Bennett Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#916 ·
Anthony Wright30 said:Perhaps bringing back the Warsaw Pact wouldn't be the worst thing; things have been quite difficult across Eastern Europe from the 90s onward. Between the Czechs, the Poles, and the Baltic states, everyone seems to be practically gasping for freedom.

I'm struggling to see how any of this actually connects to my point about the aircraft.

By the way, it seems like the concept of sovereignty is pretty foreign to people like you. All you seem to care about is whether it's America or Russia calling the shots. It’s a pretty intense way of looking at things, if I do say so myself.
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
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#917 ·
Amy Bennett said:You were defending them before based on the idea that they're victims from halfway across the world. So, why the sudden change in story?

Nah, I just said it’s perfectly normal to care more about Ukraine than Yemen—didn't say anything about people getting killed being okay.
Kyle Lopez2 Kyle Lopez2 Active Member
94 messages
joined Apr 2018
#918 ·
Amy Bennett said:But hold on a second—who was the untouchable global hegemon until very recently? Whose unipolar order have we all been living under since the 90s?

We're Europeans. It feels like it should be about time for Europe to finally become sovereign, rather than just acting like someone else's errand girl.

If we're being totally honest, the USA has more influence over Europe than Russia does😁. Another thing is how a certain imperialistic Europe actually benefits from having a stable and strong Great Russia🤔

In all reality, seeing a militant Russia shake things up serves our interests way more than the American ones
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
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joined Apr 2023
#919 ·
Justin James10 said:Loso is a total pro at spinning pro-Russian theories to the ninetieth degree! He manages to connect absolutely everything—from COVID and reptiles to the Khazars and the October Revolution—all just to argue that Ukrainians aren't even a real nation and are actually Nazis. 😬

He claims, "everyone keeps asking where I am," but honestly, after just five minutes of this podcast, isn't it pretty obvious he was just getting some "specialized training" in Moscow? 😬[/I]

Listening to this stuff while you're already feeling burnt out by everything... what a complete circus! 🙏 🙏 🙏

On the other hand, isn't it a little unsettling how some people listen to this with a completely straight face, treating it like serious news? 🤣

Lošo is probably the closest thing we have to a Malnar production. I suspect today’s vibe is much like it was twenty years ago—back before podcasts existed—when Lošo used to be a regular guest on Malnar’s shows, usually alongside Schwartz. 😬

Justin James10 said:Loso is a total pro at spinning pro-Russian theories to the ninetieth degree! He manages to connect absolutely everything—from COVID and reptiles to the Khazars and the October Revolution—all just to argue that Ukrainians aren't even a real nation and are actually Nazis. 😬

He claims, "everyone keeps asking where I am," but honestly, after just five minutes of this podcast, isn't it pretty obvious he was just getting some "specialized training" in Moscow? 😬[/I]

Listening to this stuff while you're already feeling burnt out by everything... what a complete circus! 🙏 🙏 🙏

On the other hand, isn't it a little unsettling how some people listen to this with a completely straight face, treating it like serious news? 🤣

Luckily, we live in a democratic and tolerant society where any clown can stand up and spout whatever nonsense they want in public—just look at Šarić, for instance. People should just enjoy the spectacle; there's really nothing to fear. If it wasn't him, it would just be someone else playing the part.
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
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joined Oct 2017
#920 ·
wiredfalcon2 said:So, the EC just dropped a proposal to slash reliance on Russian gas by two-thirds before the year is out. They’re heading to Versailles tomorrow to hash it all out.

At this point, it’s just straight-up trolling. 🤣🤣🤣

They’ll probably announce some "groundbreaking" decision, except they won't actually do anything! 🙏 It reminds me of that one drunk guy at the local bar who keeps bothering everyone else with grand stories about how he’s going to do this or that, while in reality, he’s just slumped over the table, totally useless. 🙂

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