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Participants Brandon Newman95Brenda Gonzalez12Elizabeth JacksonLinda Moore51mistybisonJessica Morris6Jamie Rivera78Chris Myersstormyrider28urbangull90Roger Cooper91Linda Harris44lonewolf2velvetmoose9
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#41 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:It’s honestly pretty funny how they can't back up a single one of their claims with actual links or citations. Meanwhile, I’ve gone ahead and provided plenty of evidence, all while dealing with a mountain of insults and ad hominem attacks from them—and that’s just the tip of the iceberg! They dumped all that nonsense throughout the entire PDF, and honestly, I wouldn't mind digging up even more if needed.

What’s even more hilarious is that you actually have an "ignore list" right there in your signature with specific names, yet here you are quoting those exact people! If they were truly on your ignore list, you wouldn't be able to see their posts, let alone know what they said.

It's just another blatant lie you're spreading by playing the victim and grasping at straws. 😠
Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
28 messages
joined Nov 2016
#42 ·
Roger Cooper91 said:It’s funny how you claim mothers are to blame when babies—who aren't even vaccinated against measles yet—get exposed to infected people and die. You're pointing fingers at the moms for that... 🤦

And then you have the nerve to act like you aren't a threat. 👎

Can you actually connect the dots here? Why are those babies vulnerable in the first place? Why aren't their parents passing on that protection? You're looking for someone to blame in all the wrong places.
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#43 ·
urbangull90 said:Thanks so much for the kind words! Honestly though, I’m definitely not a doctor or anything in the medical field. I'm just a simple lawyer who doesn't spend quite as much time practicing law as I used to. 😬

SF

Well, sorry for pigeonholing you into a whole different career then, but man, you really know your stuff! 👍
urbangull90 urbangull90 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2005
#44 ·
Linda Harris44 said:Honestly, Ethan Brooks59, Jerry White29, Roger Cooper91, and User112 have been systematically wrecking these alternative medicine threads for months now, and it’s getting exhausting. These guys show up to discussions without having even the slightest clue how any of this stuff actually works, and most of what they churn out is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. It’s pretty obvious they aren't here to learn; they just swoop in specifically to insult the people who are actually trying to have a meaningful conversation about holistic health. They don't bother bringing a single real argument to the table—mostly because they lack the basic knowledge to formulate one—so instead, they just resort to those cheap, low-blow ad hominem attacks against everyone else. It's just tiresome.
Well, looks like the whole cancer treatment thread just got nuked by the mods, all because of some nonsense Ethan Brooks59 was stirring up. Typical. 👎
This kind of blatant disrespect needs to be shut down once and for all, and there should be some actual consequences put in place.

I’ve brought up this whole "raw food" thing on the forum a few times now, basically just asking for a straight answer on how exactly a vegan, raw food diet is supposed to cure progeria. It seems like a bit of a stretch, especially since Ethan Barrett22 has gone on record multiple times claiming that there’s no such thing as an incurable disease.

Still sitting here waiting on an answer, though honestly, I’m starting to lose hope...

Ethan Brooks59 As if I haven't heard this all before...
Look, I’m sorry if I ended up pushing you into a completely different career path, but let's be honest—you can't exactly argue with the facts once they're laid out like that. The expertise is there, and frankly, it's undeniable. 👍

Thanks, that's kind of you, really, but I can't exactly go around lecturing people on my medical knowledge when most of what I know is just a collection of random bits and pieces I've picked up here and there along the way... 😬

BatKol is a prime example of what happens when you combine genuine expertise with a complete lack of sanity. It’s Corduroy, really. Or more accurately, it's that specific kind of deep-dive knowledge that only comes from someone living and breathing their own niche field—you know, those people who work in medicine or some other highly specialized technical sector. If I missed anyone who fits that description, please don't come for me.

SF
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#45 ·
Jamie Rivera78 said:Do you actually know how to draw a logical conclusion? Why are babies left vulnerable, and why don't mothers pass on immunity? You're looking for someone to blame in all the wrong places.

🤦

Look, before mandatory vaccinations were ever implemented, measles outbreaks were massive. Babies were dying from them constantly. Were those moms to blame too, simply because they took a vaccine that didn't even exist back then?

I honestly don't get why you're pushing these anti-vax pamphlets here, though I have to admit, it’s almost impressive how much effort you put into spinning your "alternative facts."
lonewolf2 lonewolf2 Member
17 messages
joined Jun 2017
#46 ·
Look, just give me independent admin rights so I can go in there, ban all that garbage, and finally clean this place up properly.
Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
28 messages
joined Nov 2016
#47 ·
Roger Cooper91 said:🤦

So, before mandatory vaccines hit the scene, everyone was catching measles left and right, babies were dying from it, and we’re supposed to blame the moms because they took a vaccine that didn't even exist yet?

I don't get why you're shoving anti-vax pamphlets down our throats here, though honestly, it's almost funny seeing how much effort you put into these "alternative facts."

Once again, you have zero clue what's actually going on. How many babies actually died?
And who exactly decides what counts as an "alternative fact"? Or what qualifies as a pamphlet?
Linda Moore51 Linda Moore51 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Mar 2017
#48 ·
Lorelei Asks:
Ethan Brooks59, Jerry White29, Roger Cooper91, and User112 have been systematically tearing apart every single discussion thread regarding alternative medicine for months now, and frankly, it’s getting impossible to ignore.

I honestly don't understand why we keep getting our threads shut down in these alternative medicine forums. If you think our reactions—our actual responses to the absolute nonsense you people keep posting—are what's causing the bans, then you are completely delusional.
Linda Harris44 said:It honestly drives me up the wall when certain people drift into these threads acting like they actually know something about alternative lifestyles, because frankly, they don't have a clue what they're talking about. They show up, start typing away with zero foundational knowledge of the subject, and end up posting absolute nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic at hand.

Look, if you actually want to contribute something meaningful around here instead of just shouting into the void, you need to understand how this works. You can't just waltz in and start throwing random opinions at the wall like some amateur who hasn't done their homework. To actually write on these threads and have people take you seriously, there are certain fundamentals you absolutely have to grasp first. First off, you need to actually know what you're talking about. This isn't some superficial social media feed where anyone with a smartphone can act like an expert; if you’re going to jump into a debate, you better have the facts lined up and a solid grasp of the subject matter. If you come in half-cocked, people are going to tear you apart, and frankly, they'll be right to do so. You need depth. You need to be able to follow a logical progression of thought rather than just venting frustration without any substance. Second, you have to respect the flow of the conversation. Every thread has its own rhythm and its own established context. If you ignore what’s already been said and just repeat the same tired arguments, you aren't contributing—you're just making noise. You need to read, really read, the existing posts so that when you finally do speak up, your input actually moves the needle or adds a layer of nuance that wasn't there before. And honestly? You need to develop a bit of backbone. Don't be afraid to take a stand, but make sure that stand is built on something substantial. People here value someone who can lay out a reasoned, even if heated, argument. It’s about being deliberate with your words. If you’re just going to spray nonsense everywhere, don't bother posting at all. Get your head in the game, do the reading, and once you actually have something worth saying, then you can join the fray.
Are you actually going to sit there and tell me that you don't see the obvious connection between carrot juice and human blood, or do you think your little bit of "knowledge" is somehow superior to what's right in front of us? Are you really going to deny the fact that the human body is perfectly capable of synthesizing its own Vitamin C just from basic carbohydrates and water? And don't even get me started on the diet—are you honestly going to argue that sticking strictly to raw food isn't enough to completely heal yourself from cancer?
Do you actually honestly believe that doctors have somehow missed some massive, meter-long worm living inside people? Because if you're seriously suggesting there’s a biological anomaly like that just sliding around undetected by modern medicine, we really need to have a serious talk about how much misinformation you're swallowing. It's honestly mind-boggling. We live in an era where medical technology is lightyears beyond what it was even a few decades ago, yet people still cling to these bizarre, unscientific conspiracy theories about giant parasites hiding in plain sight. If there were a physical organism that large inhabiting the human body, it wouldn't be a "mystery" that doctors couldn't solve; it would be a massive, undeniable medical crisis that every hospital from New York to Los Angeles would be screaming about on the nightly news. You can't just invent a biological impossibility and expect anyone with a shred of common sense to nod along with you.
Look, from where I’m sitting, this isn't some valid alternative—it’s pure idiocy, straight-up charlatanism, and nothing more than glorified quackery. You honestly have to be intellectually stunted to write something like this, especially when you refuse to own up to being wrong even after someone lays out the actual arguments proving you couldn't possibly be right.
Linda Harris44 said:They only show up to these threads for one reason and one reason only: to disrespect the people who are actually putting in the work to discuss the subject at hand. It’s incredibly obnoxious. They don't bother showing up with actual arguments or any real substance because they clearly lack even the slightest bit of knowledge regarding alternative lifestyles, so instead, they just resort to cheap ad hominem attacks. It's pathetic, really.

What kind of "knowledge" about alternatives are we even talking about here? Is there some secret academy or a specialized university degree for alternative lifestyles? It’s almost laughable when you think about people acting like this is some organized field of study you can just enroll in. There isn't some ivy league institution or a prestigious college in the States where they hand out diplomas for "alternative thinking." It's not a formal discipline taught in lecture halls; it's just stuff people pick up through experience or by digging through whatever information they can find.
What exactly gives you the right to sit there and act like you have some kind of divine authority on why you know the alternative better than I do? Honestly, I don't even know where to start with that level of arrogance. It’s one thing to have an opinion, but it's another thing entirely to make those sweeping, baseless claims about your own insight while dismissing mine without a shred of actual logic.
If you had even the slightest bit of actual knowledge regarding physics, chemistry, or biology, it would be blindingly obvious to you that everything you just claimed above is nothing more than absolute, grade-A nonsense.
Do you seriously not grasp the fundamental reality here that human blood and carrot juice are two entirely different substances? It’s basic biology, for crying out loud. We aren't some kind of biological factory that just churns out Vitamin C on command like a machine; humans don't produce it naturally. To suggest there's some sort of direct equivalence between the two is just scientifically illiterate.
Linda Harris44 said:The cancer treatment thread just got nuked by the mods, and honestly, it’s all because of Ethan Brooks59. 👎
This kind of blatant disrespect needs to be shut down immediately and dealt with through proper disciplinary action.

That isn't true—in fact, it’s a complete lie. Ethan Brooks59 already laid out exactly what Nica actually wrote right above this:
Let me make one thing perfectly clear for the future: we have completely lost our way here, and this discussion has spiraled into territory it should never have touched. You can talk about alternative wellness approaches all you want, but you cannot encourage people to ignore modern medicine or disregard their doctors' advice, and you certainly shouldn't be promoting methods that have been scientifically proven to be harmful and dangerous.


On another note, it is incredibly telling how none of you "alternative health" enthusiasts are saying a single word about those messages Ethan Barrett22 was sending to an older woman while thinking he was talking to Ethan Brooks59.
Honestly, I don't know how you all can sit there without feeling any shame, but what Ethan Barrett22 was doing was absolutely disgusting and low; you honestly have to be a total sociopath and a complete moral vacuum to behave like that.
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
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joined Mar 2017
#49 ·
And then, wouldn't you know it, the exact same crowd starts pushing carrot juice and all that other nonsense like it’s a magic cure-all for everything from the plague to a pimple on your butt—only now they're pivoting to talking about raw food and "detoxing."

The only embarrassing part is seeing people like Lorelei, who used to jump into these threads to call this stuff out, suddenly acting like it's perfectly fine.
Jerry White29 said:It is honestly hilarious how none of these pseudo-alternative types mention the messages Ethan Barrett22 was sending to that older woman while thinking he was actually talking to Ethan Brooks59.
Honestly, guys, I don't know how you aren't embarrassed, but what Ethan Barrett22 did was disgusting and low. You really have to be a total psychopath and a complete moral wreck to act like that.

Of course they think it's "ok." I wouldn't even be surprised if they just ignored the whole thing and doubled down on supporting that kind of harassment and behavior. Besides, if nobody else has caught onto this yet, Ethan Barrett22 hasn't said a single word about it.
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
195 messages
joined Nov 2022
#50 ·
@Lorelei
Don't go blurring the lines between being an actual alternative person and just some quasi-alternative pretender...
stormyrider28 stormyrider28 Member
17 messages
joined Dec 2018
#51 ·
Jerry White29 said:but honestly, it’s pretty wild how none of those conspiracy theorists are saying a word about the messages Ethan Barrett22 was sending to that older woman thinking she was Ethan Brooks59.
man, I don't know how you guys aren't embarrassed, but what Ethan Barrett22 did was just gross... totally bottom-of-the-barrel stuff. You seriously have to be a total psychopath and a complete moral wreck to pull something like that.

And here we go again with the insults. It’s actually good that Ethan Barrett22 pointed out how you two just exist to tear people down, which you’re clearly doing right here without even a shred of shame. Like, who even gives you the right to call someone a psychopath or a moral wreck? Where do you get that authority? Or are you just handing out medical diagnoses now? Because last I checked, being a "psychopath" isn't something you can just claim over a message board... that's doctor territory, not internet troll territory!
Anyone could make up stories like what Ethan Brooks59 is claiming—saying people are threatening him, stalking him, tapping his phone, or even jumping him on a street corner... all it takes is one person to say it and suddenly it’s "fact," right?
And since we all know Ethan Brooks59 absolutely loathes Ethan Barrett22 from the bottom of his soul—which is obvious by the way he keeps attacking and insulting everyone—it’s pretty clear he’s just making up whatever nonsense comes to mind just to drag him through the mud because he's got nothing else left. We see him failing to even provide actual links where Ethan Barrett22 or anyone else breaks the rules, so he just invents stuff. And obviously, this is more of the same. It's honestly sad to see how far he's fallen... we really can't expect any truth from a guy who told this forum he just walked back from his neighbor's funeral, only to get caught in a lie when the service wasn't even scheduled to start until an hour later than what he claimed... I mean, who's actually going to believe a guy who lies every single time he hits the keyboard?
stormyrider28 stormyrider28 Member
17 messages
joined Dec 2018
#52 ·
Roger Cooper91 said:You guys basically just admitted it.

So, "If I ever had kids..."—how am I supposed to read into that? 🕺

Still no link provided... and honestly, Ethan Brooks59 totally laid it out plain and simple regarding why that stuff shows up on the alternative site.
Ethan Brooks59 said:hahaha, you're sitting there all morning glued to your computer trying to cook up some clever comeback while me, I'm actually sitting here working, getting paid for it, and just messing with you.

How should we take that?
Linda Moore51 Linda Moore51 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Mar 2017
#53 ·
stormyrider28 said:Here we go again with the insults; Ethan Barrett22 was absolutely right when he pointed out that a few of you are just here to throw shade, and honestly, you’re doing it here without even a shred of shame. Seriously, who do you think you are, calling someone a psychopath or a moral degenerate? Where on earth do you get the authority to pass judgment like that? Or maybe you think you’re all licensed psychiatrists now, handing out clinical diagnoses to people over an internet forum? That’s pure amateur hour, because unless you have a medical degree, you aren't qualified to slap a label like "psychopath" on anyone
. The kind of stuff Ethan Brooks59 is claiming—that he’s being threatened, stalked, or having his phone tapped, or even getting jumped on a street corner—anyone could just make up a story like that. All it takes is one person to spin a tale about being harassed, and suddenly it’s treated like gospel, right?
And since it’s blindingly obvious to everyone watching that Ethan Brooks59 harbors a deep-seated hatred for Ethan Barrett22—which shows in every single one of his petty attacks and insults—it's clear he'll just invent whatever nonsense he needs to tear him down because he has nothing else left to work with. We see it clearly: he can't even provide a single link proving that Ethan Barrett22 or anyone else is actually breaking the site rules, so he just fabricates things. This is classic behavior for him. It’s honestly pathetic to see how far he’s fallen... we really can't expect an ounce of honesty from a guy who sat here once claiming he had just come straight from his neighbor's funeral, only to be caught in a blatant lie when it turned out the service wasn't even scheduled until hours later than what he claimed. Who in their right mind would believe a man who lies every time he hits a key?

I'm going to try to explain this simply so even you can grasp it... if someone gets into a dispute on a forum and then takes it a step further by calling that person privately to threaten them, that person is a psychopath. Period. Full stop. This is a forum where people are anonymous, which means, theoretically, you could say whatever you want about me, but that doesn't mean I'm going to hunt you down and start sending you threatening messages. Do you follow me?

But what happens if it turns out everything Ethan Brooks59 said was actually true? Are you going to go back to stormyrider28 and apologize for claiming he was lying? Or are you just going to pull the same stunt you did with Roger Cooper91?

Personally, I don't doubt a word Ethan Brooks59 said, because Ethan Barrett22 actually reached out to me via private message once too. But unlike Roger Cooper91, I told him to get lost and insisted we handle everything publicly, whereas Roger Cooper91 went along with the private talk and ended up getting blasted with a barrage of insults.
Look, stormyrider28, your buddy is a straight-up psycho.
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#54 ·
By the way, since we’re bringing up the topic of cancer treatment research and why that thread was shut down, here only a tiny fraction of the actual insults from that discussion remains on file. A whole lot of other vitriol—some even harsher than what you see—was scrubbed away, much like most of these posts were later on.

I can't help but wonder if anyone actually believes this kind of behavior is acceptable, or that it wasn't the primary reason the thread was closed in the first place?

Or perhaps this kind of conduct is actually encouraged and perfectly fine here?
If that's the case, then come on, moderators—just say so plainly to everyone, and we'll all start acting this way too. 🤷
But no, despite everything, I've personally never stooped to that level of communication.

This collection of insults found in the link I provided only serves to prove that this endless stream of toxicity has been going on for months, driven by the exact same group of people and the fundamental issue with this subforum is quite simply their constant harassment.
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#55 ·
stormyrider28 said:Hey Link, you forgot to include the link again! And honestly, Ethan Brooks59 basically just went ahead and admitted exactly why that stuff shows up on the alternative site.

"Just sitting here, grinding away at work! That’s exactly what I get paid for! I'm just messing with you!"

How should we make sense of this?

Look, gnu, I don't think you're quite grasping the core of this. Honestly! So, let me try breaking it down for you in much simpler terms so we're finally on the same page.
Just sitting here—I'm sitting in my chair right now—not lying down, and definitely not standing!
I'm on it! So, I’m sitting here at my desk, right in the middle of the office, fully clocked in and tackling my to-do list. I know you might be taking it easy or hanging out, but just so we're clear—I am officially on the clock and getting things done!
That’s exactly what they pay me for! I’m finally getting paid for my work!
I'm just pulling your leg! Whenever I get a little breather between my two jobs, I find myself popping onto the forum just to check out your latest blunders. Honestly, it’s become my favorite way to pass the time—I can’t help but treat myself to a bit of fun by tearing those ridiculous mistakes of yours apart!

Does that make more sense now? Hopefully, it all clicks! 😂 😂
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#56 ·
Jerry White29 said:I’ll try to frame this in a way that makes sense to you... If someone starts calling another person a psychopath just because of some petty disagreement on an online forum—and they're actually making threats to boot—then I guess we're dealing with someone who is genuinely unhinged. That's just going too far.

I suppose I agree that only an absolute psychopath would act in such a manner, though I honestly can't quite wrap my head around what you'd even call someone like that, or what their actual motivation could possibly be. 🤷

Honestly, I don’t have the slightest clue who this person is, nor do I care even a fraction of a percent. But given that he’s spent months obsessively targeting me—which is pretty painfully obvious considering the dozens of insulting posts he’s dropped—I suppose this is just his latest desperate attempt to get under my skin now that he’s run out of actual arguments.
At the end of the day, if there’s some sort of drama unfolding in his private life, I honestly can't wrap my head around why he thinks I'm the one responsible for causing it. We aren't even acquaintances, let alone friends—we don't communicate at all—yet he seems to have decided that I am somehow the target for his constant insults and attacks. It just doesn't make any sense, I guess. 😁
It’s just... it's all so incredibly obvious.😁

Besides, there are actual institutions designed to handle these matters. It seems more appropriate that they direct their concerns there rather than continuing to clutter up this forum with the same grievances. 🙄

Jerry White29 said:I don't doubt a single word of what Ethan Brooks59 wrote. To be honest, Ethan Barrett22 actually reached out to me privately to have a chat about it, just like he did with Roger Cooper91. But where Roger Cooper91 might have gone along with it, I decided to shut that down immediately. I told him straight up that if we have things to say, we should say them right here in the open for everyone to see. While Roger Cooper91 was agreeing to the terms, he ended up catching quite a volley of insults for his trouble.

How on earth did you find out what he and I were discussing in our private messages?

Could you perhaps shed some light on how exactly you arrived at that conclusion? I’m curious to know where you're getting your information from.


No, Now, hold on just a second—I’m fairly certain that isn't actually true....in those few messages. I didn't say a single nasty thing to him—not even one little word.
If things had actually played out that way—considering how much this person has been hounding and insulting me for months now without me ever once lifting a finger in response—then... I honestly can't wrap my head around why he didn't report me for those awful insults back there. I guess it's just one of those things that leaves you wondering.

Of course, Because they’re nothing more than fabrications, if you ask me.

Honestly, I don't have any issue with the administration stepping in to double-check things and verify the facts, if that’s what it takes to get this sorted out.
It is somewhat curious to observe that you seem to be relying exclusively on arguments that you aren't actually capable of substantiating, let alone presenting with any degree of clarity. 😁

It’s becoming pretty obvious that on this thread—just like in the PDF—a handful of you are exclusively using... It seems we’ve drifted into the territory of the *ad hominem* argument. Rather than addressing the substance of what was actually said, it feels like the focus has shifted toward attacking the individual making the point. I suppose it's a common enough reflex when a debate gets heated, but it doesn't really move the needle on the actual issue at hand, does it? It’s a bit of a detour from the logic we were originally discussing..

The term *ad hominem*—which is Latin for "to the person"—is essentially shorthand for an *argumentum ad hominem*. In the world of logic and debate, this refers to a specific type of fallacy where someone bypasses the actual merits of an argument to launch a direct attack on the individual making it instead. It’s a bit of a cheap shot, really. Rather than addressing the substance of what is being said, the critic shifts the focus toward the person's character, background, or traits, presumably to discredit their position by association. I suppose you could say it's an attempt to win a debate not through superior reasoning, but through social or personal sabotage. Essentially, you’re looking at a logical fallacy where someone tries to dodge the actual substance of an argument by attacking the person making it instead. It’s that classic move where, rather than addressing the facts or the logic presented, they pivot to pointing out some perceived flaw, negative trait, or questionable belief held by the speaker. I guess you could call it a way of trying to discredit the message by casting doubt on the messenger—which, honestly, rarely does much to actually disprove the point being made.
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
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joined Mar 2017
#57 ·
stormyrider28 said:Anyone could come up with the exact same story Ethan Brooks59 is spinning—claiming people are threatening him, stalking him, wiretapping his phone, or even jumping him on the street. It’s all he has to do is make the claim, and suddenly it’s gospel, right?
Since we can all see how much Ethan Brooks22 absolutely loathes Ethan Barrett22 based on his constant attacks and insults, it's pretty obvious he's just making stuff up whenever he feels like it just to tear him down because he’s run out of actual arguments. We’ve noticed he can't even provide links showing where Ethan Barrett22 or anyone else is actually breaking the forum rules; he just fabricates things. And of course, this latest drama is just more of the same invention, which is totally classic for him. It’s honestly sad to see how far he’s fallen... we really can't expect any truth from a guy who once told the forum he was just walking back from his neighbor's funeral, only to be caught in a blatant lie when the service didn't even start until an hour later than what he claimed. Who is going to believe someone who lies the second they hit the keyboard?

Do you actually have the guts to call me a liar, you absolute creep?

Look, stormyrider28, you specifically mentioned that you know Ethan personally and even sit together while playing games.

555-012-xxxx (I'm not typing the whole thing because I don't want to violate privacy rules here, but if you really know him like you claim, you'll recognize the number immediately).

-Sent via a masked caller ID (a total playground move) to a number where the lady didn't pick up.

Message from May 6th, 2019, at 8:31 PM.
"Why aren't you picking up the phone, you absolute piece of filth? You're nothing but trash!!!"
"You're a disgrace, I hope you rot for bringing this garbage into the world."


Just so we're clear, this message was received by a 70-year-old woman. So, when I say I hope the person responsible gets what's coming to them, and then *you* turn around and call *me* a liar, I am officially demanding an apology. I can easily pull up more examples from this "collection" of messages if needed. 😠

And then this lowlife has the audacity to act like he can tell me what I've received in my messages...
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#58 ·
Jerry White29 said:If you're worried about losing credibility, I'd say you and your followers are doing more damage than anyone else by posting such nonsense.

Well, calling something nonsense is just your subjective opinion. I happen to see things quite differently.

Actually, on this forum, nobody is held accountable for having a subjective opinion; people only get flagged for breaking the rules.
So, I don't think the issue lies with anyone's personal viewpoint, but rather with the insults being hurled at those who simply provide more detailed arguments.
urbangull90 urbangull90 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2005
#59 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:(...)
How on earth do you know what he and I were discussing in our DMs?>
(...)

And how exactly are you seeing what Jerry White29 is posting if he’s sitting right there on your ignore list?

Don't tell me you got "notified" about him again.

🤣🤣🤣


😬

SF
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#60 ·
stormyrider28 said:You didn't even include the link again,

🤣 Who do you think you are? You had the nerve to demand links from me while mocking me, calling me some carbon copy of Monty. Then, once I actually provided them, you just went "ha-ha, gotcha!" It was obvious you were just trying to waste my time. And now you expect me to go hunting for more names just because you asked? No thanks, I'm done 😉. Or are you going to demand a link for this, too?

If anyone actually has the guts to moderate that absolute garbage PDF, they'll see these statements for themselves. Honestly, it's baffling how you can still sit there and lie through your teeth, even now. 🕺

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