Bad Boys - Part IV

Sarah Jones8 said:I see the picture perfectly clearly. You won't find me over on the Hajduk or Torcida threads—I have no interest in preaching to you lot about how things "should" be done. Maybe those people should actually take a moment to reflect on what they contribute to their own groups. To be blunt, I don't like you guys; just because we share a common enemy doesn't change that—a fact you proved back in Otočac. We are rivals, plain and simple, and that’s how it ought to be—which is why I find your unsolicited advice quite grating. Regards.

Mamić will leave when the time comes—people have been counting down the days for years now—but meanwhile, we're all just sliding backward.

We're the "disasters," as you put it. Dammit. A total collapse.

vividotter40 said:Mamic will eventually leave, but only after he’s spent years counting every single pass in his version of tiki-taka while the rest of us just watch the club slide backward.

We’re total disasters, just like you said. Damn. It's a complete meltdown.

Everyone should just mind their own damn business. We’ll actually see some progress—no matter how ridiculous it sounds—once the Real Madrid fans start posting on the BBB thread and the Los Angeles Dodgers fans stick to the Ultras thread. As long as we keep doing the opposite, it's just pure stupidity, if you catch my drift. I'm done arguing about this. Peace.

Ah, I see. So the root of all our collective misery is apparently Reddit. 🤣

Bradley Garcia77 said:Oh, I see. So the root of all evil is this forum. 🤣

Exactly. Because look, man, this guy's been here for what, four years now? Constantly preaching about how we needed to kick Real Madrid out of Europe just so everything would be sunshine and rainbows. Yeah, right. 🙂

It's like saying Štimac, who clearly has an IQ of 12, was just like Mamic—except somehow even worse. 👍

Someone gave him a perfect lesson on why we shouldn't worry about today's kids. Half of us are dodging bans (myself included), while the other half are being forged in this hellhole. When things finally revert to the old ways, those "kids" are going to be laughing in your faces. I still remember the looks of pure shock last December during that brief truce, when the Ultras found it absolutely unbelievable that they could actually get into the stadium without waiting an hour or more. And that was just a teaser for the chaos in the camp. You deal with searches, ID checks, tents, and then more searches if anyone looks suspicious.

Luckily, it’s always the same twenty people posting on this site anyway, so it doesn't really matter. For those who need to know, we already know exactly who's behind the nicknames, and for everyone else, just ignore those "should haves" for your own sanity. 🙂

Bradley Garcia77 said:I honestly can't decide who’s more ridiculous—this absolute clown of a woman or that suck-up reporter.

Man, this whole thing was worth the price of admission. You’ve got some guy from the local Ultras talking about the Boys protesting against Mamic and his mercenaries, alongside some influencer's girlfriend... and it's all just totally random. Give me a break. 🤦

casualwolf48 said:If you're such a genius, tell me why you didn't deal with Mamic back when he basically spat on everyone's pride at the stadium and nearly laid hands on an old man.I remember one group of Ultras and one Miami that would have risen up over much less than that back in the late 80s. A friend of mine wouldn't have made it out of that stadium alive if that had happened then. Believe me. And no, I’m not wishing for those days. It isn't about today's Ultras or the Boys. The problem is all of us. The whole society.
And you call yourself a fan? What do you actually get out of this? You aren't playing in Europe; you're just traveling to Prague for friendlies. You can't because Mamic and his federation hit the team with a blow so hard they might not recover for years. Just stay on his good side, and maybe he'll write you a nice little soccer story like he did in his hometown. Stop barking against "Dad."
The national team is the same way. Isn't that just Dad's private playground? His showroom for selling off players. He doesn't care about Real Madrid in Europe. Just watch how he handles everything through the federation and the national team.
You claim to be a fan, but what's the payoff? You've got the North Stand, the beautiful stadium, a few small matches, some local patriotic cheering, and that's it. So go ahead, be a crazy Miami local and settle the score with the devil. If the devil would just stop screwing with me, maybe he'd screw with you a little less too.

Friend, you don't remember a specific group of Ultras and a city; you remember a time and a generation. 😉

Computers and information overload killed it all.

George Lewis27 said:.
p.s. my tablet is acting up.

Better he’s the one struggling than having it all fall on him.

Anyway, I’m feeling too tired to keep typing. All in all, I wish all the fans luck, wisdom, and everything else. Let's just get rid of this trash together; things will be better for everyone.

Except for the Ričan family.😁

And finally, someone should probably just announce that when the futsal matches happen, we should all head out together for some kind of spiritual reset... just to recharge our batteries...

Is BBB actually going to show up for our domestic European fixtures?

The Denver game is the perfect excuse for everyone to get their tickets sorted right away—let's make sure we turn out in massive numbers at the North Stand, especially since sales kick off tomorrow!!

Jerry Sanders3 said:And hey, someone better shoot me a text when the next indoor soccer game is scheduled so we can all head out together, clear our heads, and recharge the batteries.

11/15

boldeagle20 said:Exactly! You see, he’s been telling us for four years now that we need to kick LA Galaxy out of Europe just so everything can turn pink, ha! 🙂

As if Donald Trump, who surely has an IQ of 12, was anything like Mamč—actually, he's even worse! 👍

Someone explained perfectly why we shouldn't worry about our kids today. Some of us are dealing with bans (myself included), while others are being forged in this chaos. When things finally return to normal, those "kids" will be leaving you all in the dust. I still remember the horrified looks back in December when there was a truce, and the Black and Gold faithful found it absolutely unbelievable that it took an hour or more just to get into the stadium. And that was only part of the "show." First the searches, then personal checks, then the tents, and then more searches if they didn't trust you.

Luckily, it's always the same 20 people posting on this forum, so it doesn't really matter anyway. For those who need to know, we know exactly who is behind the nicknames, and as for the rest of the "should-bes," just ignore them for your own sake.🙂

And who are you going to leave in the dust, you dried-out little thief, when you're carrying 50 pounds of gear in your nightstand?

It is truly terrible what is being written here and the kinds of people participating.

Guys, I really think everything is going to work out in the end. Maybe if we can just bring that same high energy from the indoor courts over to the Rose Bowl, we'll be golden. Things will turn positive again! We just have to power through this crappy stretch and deal with the head man, whose influence is bound to fade eventually, I'm pretty sure about that.

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boldeagle20 said:Exactly—you get what I'm saying. This guy has been here for, what, four years now? Telling us how we need to kick LA Galaxy out of Europe just so everything can turn all rosy and perfect... yeah, right. 🙂

As if Donald Trump, who apparently has an IQ of 12, was anything other than exactly like Mamč—actually, maybe even worse. 👍

Someone explained quite perfectly why we shouldn't worry about our kids today. I guess some parts of us deal with bans (myself included), while others are being forged in this absolute hellscape. Once things eventually go back to the way they were, those "kids" will be the ones leaving you in the dust. I still remember those horrified faces back in December last year when there was a brief truce, and the Black and Gold faithful found it unbelievable that it would take an hour or more just to get into the stadium. And that was just part of the "show" in the camp. You know the drill: searches, ID checks, the tents, then more searches if they feel like being difficult.

It’s probably for the best that it's always the same twenty people posting on this forum anyway, so it doesn't really matter. For those who need to know, we know exactly who everyone is behind their handles, and as for the rest of those "should-be" types, honestly, just ignore them for your own sake. 🙂

That's true. But honestly, the horror came from two specific things. I’ll write this clearly so nobody tries to misinterpret my words as the official stance of the Black and Gold faithful. Why is it that I can't just speak for myself on this forum? What's the deal where anyone who supports the Boston Red Sox is automatically interpreted as speaking for the entire fan base or being some kind of provocateur? 🤷🤷 Basically, if one person posts here and they support the Red Sox, they're suddenly labeled as representing the whole group or acting as a troll. So, I am going to speak strictly for myself right now.
Back then, I was horrified for two reasons. First, there was the actual repression—but honestly, the first thing was the claustrophobia in that forty-minute crush. God forbid anyone actually dies because of the people responsible. Then there was the crackdown: the lists, the security guards acting like they have ultimate authority 😵 and a million cops everywhere. It's not like we haven't seen similar things during away games in the past—even back when Bechtel was still in the league—but this wasn't an away game; this was our home stand, and it just wasn't right.
The second thing that shocked me is how you guys can even tolerate this at all?! Personally, I don't think I could handle five games where I can't enter my own stadium on time or where I'm treated like a dog. There's no way I could put up with that. Now, whether I'd actually do something about it or just go watch a baseball game instead... well, I won't get into a debate about that, but it's a separate issue. You talk about the bans, but I'd rather have a ban under those conditions than live without one.
I don't want to argue anymore; it just drains my energy. You guys can wait for the local authorities or the American justice system to fix it, but I see things differently, and that's that.
And sure, the owner is our problem too—that's 100% certain—but we've dealt with much bigger issues than him, and we still are to some extent. This club came within a hair's breadth of bankruptcy; I honestly don't know how that isn't clear to you.

Based on what you’re saying, you’d rather see the club go bankrupt than watch them swallow the humiliations they've endured for years. That’s your version of "better safe than sorry," which is just code for you not giving a damn.

A few idiots have been acting like geniuses for days now. Then comes that photo from Boston—Mamč laughing in the coal mine while everyone crowds around him with congratulations. He screws over the Red Sox, eats his cake, and keeps on laughing. Whatever. Everyone was part of planning those massive trips to Savannah... some members of the Black and Gold faithful weren't, but most Red Sox fans I know haven't changed their minds after decades of every single management screw-up and fight with club legends. Most would still give anything to have Mamč running things. So much for "awareness"—whether it's fan loyalty or basic human decency, most people in this region are still stuck in the same mindset.

Joseph Turner41 said:And another thing—how can you even stomach this? Honestly, I couldn't deal with five games of this crap. If I couldn't walk into my own stadium whenever I wanted or if they treated me like a dog, there's no way I'd put up with it. Whether I'd actually do something about it or just go watch a baseball game instead isn't really the point, but the whole situation is just revolting.

We both know you wouldn't lift a finger. So quit blowing up the thread with these massive, rambling posts that just make everyone's eyes bleed.

Is everything all set?

What's the deal with Salzburg?

The European Commission is knocking on our door?
http://www.nogometplus.net/nogometpl...x#.VFdR1De9Kc0

analogmaker14 said:The European Commission knocking on the door?
http://www.nogometplus.net/nogometpl...x#.VFdR1De9Kc0

I posted about this ages ago and everyone just laughed in my face.

Remember when the EC started digging into those Dutch clubs? Nobody got it then either. Read this and you'll see why they're finally cracking down:

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-192_en.htm

Some guy posted saying he misses the days when rival fanbases would step up and actually do something about this mess. Honestly, I feel the same way. I miss those old-school Bad Boys who used to scrap with those Green crews under the stands—the ones lighting fires and wanting to toss these paid agitators straight into the Mississippi. There were times when the stands were packed with people screaming their lungs out against the club, standing tall despite all the heavy-handed repression from the league. But let’s be real: those days are gone, and comparing then to now is a stretch.
And I still don't get why people can't see the truth: whenever the owner pulls some bullshit in the stands, nobody in the North section even notices or says a word. It didn't hit me until I finally got back home and saw it for what it really is.