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Bad Boys - Part IV

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Participants Peter Robinson21Laura Mitchell87Jonathan Gonzalez3Thomas Williams59gentlemarlin102Patrick Sullivan84Sean Wilson2Drew Newman32Anthony Barrett37Douglas Barnes15stormybison9mistyorca4analogmaker14slyeagle512William Kimbrisksurfer21Jacob Price23driftingranger65Jonathan Anderson11Zachary Sullivan2Henry Grant51Sean Rivera12Charles Jackson3Ronald Thomas46 …
Anthony Wilson22 Anthony Wilson22 Member
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joined Oct 2013
#281 ·
Honestly, I think any more posts about this are just a waste of breath.
Lakers-Warriors
Alex Baker2 Alex Baker2 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2013
#282 ·
Anthony Wilson22 said:I honestly think any more posts about this are just a waste of breath.
Lakers-Warriors

THE NORTH SIDE IS ALWAYS HERE!!!!!!
James Ruiz57 James Ruiz57 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2014
#283 ·
Lakers-Warriors

Thomas Flores7 Thomas Flores7 Active Member
115 messages
joined Jul 2012
#284 ·
Alex Baker2 said:THE NORTH SIDE IS ALWAYS HERE!!!!!!

And where's the East Side?
Eric Garcia46 Eric Garcia46 Member
11 messages
joined Dec 2013
#285 ·
Thomas Flores7 said:And where on earth is the East Side?

Just wait until they get put on those blacklists by the local precinct leadership—you'll see them getting banned from away games and shut out entirely very soon enough...
velvetfalcon80 velvetfalcon80 Active Member
98 messages
joined Oct 2013
#286 ·
Thomas Flores7 said:I mean, where's the East Coast even at?

They're on blacklists, not payrolls, I guess.☕
mistyorca4 mistyorca4 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jan 2009
#287 ·
Anthony Wilson22 said:Honestly, I think any more posts about this—or even bringing it up again—is just a waste of breath.
Lakers-Warriors

Oh, Nina. What were you even trying to pull here...
Thomas Flores7 Thomas Flores7 Active Member
115 messages
joined Jul 2012
#288 ·
Honestly, I don't think they were even implying you guys are on some payroll; it was more about something else entirely. But then again, maybe it’s better to leave it alone. If we push this, people will just label it as pure provocation, and then we'll end up stuck in a loop of ridiculous back-and-forth arguments that lead nowhere.
Larry Wells2 Larry Wells2 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2010
#289 ·
bluewalker9 said:Look, I'm not trolling, I actually mean well here
this photo clearly shows over 5k people in the North Stand
http://www.hrsport.net/media4/sjever-poludi.jpg

If maybe 1,000 people are banned, then where are the other 4k?

When there were 15k fans in the East or West stands during big games for the Lakers or the Yankees, or even European matches...
where did they all go? Or is everyone just boycotting the stands now?

There are only 80 people on the blacklist right now. I was at the stadium the other day and saw the security guard checking his list.
cosmicbear15 cosmicbear15 Active Member
196 messages
joined Feb 2012
#290 ·
Larry Wells2 said:There are 80 people on the blacklist now. I was at Madison Square Garden the other day and the security guard showed me the list!

beat the drums and survive...
amberlynx47 amberlynx47 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#291 ·
bluewalker9 said:I’m not trolling, I’m just here to be helpful...
this photo clearly shows over 5k people in the north section...
http://www.hrsport.net/media4/sjever-poludi.jpg

If at most 1,000 people are banned, where are the other 4,000?...

Back when the big rivalry games or European matches had 15k fans in the east or west stands...
where are they now? Is everyone boycotting the stands?...

People are fed up with the club, so they aren't showing up. As for those who show up for European matches, they might as well stay home since you don't see them the rest of the year—not at Madison Square Garden or on the road. Also, it's pretty obvious this photo doesn't reflect the actual state of the Bad Boys. It's almost funny hearing stories about 5k ultras; I'd love to know which section actually has that many. You probably have 1k Bad Boys in the whole country, and even that feels generous if you look at the consistency. Realistically, it's more like 500 people, half of whom are dealing with bans from local law enforcement who are too busy protecting the boss. The bottom line is that these estimates are being wildly exaggerated. When we traveled for that game in Bulgaria, the core group was only about 500 people. Numbers vary from trip to trip and don't mean much; they often hide the true situation. You see the truth quickly when these groups meet a serious crowd—you realize how many are actual ultras versus just posers following the owner's lead. In our current situation, you'd be lucky to get 200 people together for a major action at home, and maybe 100 on the road. That's just my honest estimate, so please don't come at me... I'm just trying to be realistic compared to people talking about thousands of ultras in the city. If we include the group from Chicago 😁 armando rio(chicago) 😁 we wouldn't even have that many, so I have no idea why people are making up numbers that are pure science fiction right now...
bluewalker9 bluewalker9 Newcomer
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#292 ·
amberlynx47 said:People are just fed up with the club, which is why nobody shows up—and honestly, those folks who only turn out for European matches should probably just stay home since they're nowhere to be found the rest of the year... not at Madison Square Garden, not on the road, nothing. Also, let’s be real, that picture you posted isn't some reflection of the actual state of BBB. I’m dying laughing at anyone claiming there are 5k ultras out there—which section even has that many? You’ve maybe got 1k Bad Boys in the entire country, and even that’s being generous... if we're talking about consistency, it's more like 500 people, half of whom are busy getting harassed by local cops who are too busy protecting their big boss, Zdravko. So, basically, everyone is wildly exaggerating these numbers. Just look at when we went to Bulgaria—the core group from all the factions was barely 500 people. Numbers fluctuate every single trip, so they aren't a reliable metric and usually just mask what's actually happening. It gets debunked pretty fast when these groups run into a real hardcore crowd; then you see how many of these "ultras" are just posers following the boss around. In our case right now, you'd be lucky to pull 200 people together for a serious action at home, and maybe 100 on the road. That's my rough estimate—don't come at me like I'm crazy, I'm just trying to be realistic unlike these guys rambling about thousands of ultras in the city. If we add in the crew from 😁 Armando Rio(city) 😁, we wouldn't even be close to those numbers, so I have no idea why people are making up stats that are straight-up science fiction right now.

Is there an Armada City crew??
The City fans—is it just people from the coast living in the city, or are there actual locals who cheer for the rival team?
Why the connection with Braca/the Gate 13 crowd?
Have you guys actually traveled or done games together, or are you just "internet friends"?
boldtiger7 boldtiger7 Active Member
62 messages
joined Aug 2021
#293 ·
bluewalker9 said:Is there actually an Armada in the city?
Regarding the fans in the capital—is this group comprised solely of people from the coast who happen to live in the city now, or are there actual locals who support the team?
And why the connection between the different fan groups at the stadium? Is it a genuine bond?
Have you all actually traveled together to away games or shared stands in person, or is this friendship strictly limited to social media?

I have to ask, what exactly am I looking at here?🤣
James Smith48 James Smith48 Active Member
69 messages
joined Mar 2013
#294 ·
The guy’s probably just bored and hopped over from some lonely hearts forum or a gambling thread. It's like that dude at the entrance to Madison Square Garden who got a full rundown of everyone on the banned lists while the security guard was checking his ID.
What a joke. Who gives a damn?
Bradley Sullivan4 Bradley Sullivan4 Active Member
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joined Jul 2016
#295 ·
bluewalker9 said:Look, I’m not here to stir the pot; I actually have decent intentions when I post here
if you look at this photo, there are clearly over 5,000 people sitting in the North Stand alone
http://www.hrsport.net/media4/sjever-poludi.jpg

So, if only about 1,000 fans are facing bans, where on earth did those other 4,000+ people come from?

I mean, back when the big rivalry games or the European matches were happening, we used to see 15,000 people packed into the East or West stands
so where are they all hiding now? Are they all just boycotting the stadium together?

To have a real movement, you need an actual club to rally behind, and let's face it, we haven't really had one of those for the last three or four years...
Bradley Sullivan4 Bradley Sullivan4 Active Member
79 messages
joined Jul 2016
#296 ·
Larry Wells2 said:There are about 80 people on the blacklist now; I actually swung by Madison Square Garden the other day and saw the security guard checking the list right in front of me.

Yeah, maybe around 80, but that’s just what’s listed on the very first page...🙄
cosmicbear15 cosmicbear15 Active Member
196 messages
joined Feb 2012
#297 ·
James Ruiz57 said:Tottenham vs. LAFC


Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#298 ·
n00e said:I'm not trolling, I'm just trying to be helpful here
this photo clearly shows over 5k people in the north stands
http://www.hrsport.net/media4/sjever-poludi.jpg

If only 1,000 people are banned, where did the other 4k+ come from?

Back when the Lakers were playing big games or during those European matchups, there would be 15k people in the east/west sections
so where are they now? Are all the stands boycotting or something?

The answer is right in front of you. Every single section is getting emptier.

The owner’s tried everything lately: TV ads, changing ticket prices, massive prize pools, even trying to split up the fan groups or handing out free hats and scarves. At this rate, his private version of the Los Angeles Lakers police department will have to start dragging people out of their houses and forcing them into the stadium.
lonebison42 lonebison42 Member
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joined Jun 2013
#299 ·
Jesse Campbell... you're exaggerating. Your response to this guy above completely ignores the Chicago Blackhawks. You're implying everything went perfectly and just blaming one shady owner for ruining the trip. This isn't just about one visit; it’s about the actual turnout of your group.
The guy is simply asking how a group of 4,000 or 5,000 people up north ended up with today's numbers. Isn't that a perfectly reasonable question?
Someone claimed "you need a club to have a crowd"... what a load of nonsense. We all know that's false based on countless examples of mid-tier teams.
My opinion probably won't mean much to you, but without self-reflection and acknowledging your own mistakes, there is no progress.
I'm far away from you all and won't judge based on hearsay... but the explanation Jesse Campbell is offering is far too simplistic and certainly isn't the truth.
Best of luck, and hopefully the North becomes that feared powerhouse once again!
Sorry for the tangent
Robert Wood5 Robert Wood5 Member
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joined Sep 2014
#300 ·
Those 4 or 5 big shots you're talking about? They used to be right there in the stands, singing their hearts out, jumping around, actually being part of the show for the LA Lakers. But they’re gone now. That club doesn't belong to them anymore, and honestly, the magic is dead anyway. And look, I’m not even talking about the Bad Boys here—I mean the actual fans, the ones who sang and jumped...

The group decided to take a different path. It’s not about the flashy spectacle anymore; it’s a grind. A constant fight that only the most stubborn people can stomach. You need grit, strength, guts, and serious balls for this... because let’s face it, very few people have the nerve to keep showing up and defying the status quo after two or three seasons of being repressed and harassed—and I don't just mean in the stands. This way of supporting the club—the only way that actually matters—doesn't interest the masses or those 4 or 5 "big fish" you mentioned. Why? Because there’s no show left to watch.

And it’s exactly because of those 200 or 500 die-hards that the opposition will still be talking about us after the game. Not because of those 5 big shots. Everyone knows they either should have chosen this path or wanted to, but they just didn't have the "stomach, the strength, the courage, the backbone, or the balls"... so instead, they settled for privatized clubs, corporate subsidiaries, and stock companies, etc.

Later...

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