Bad Boys - Part IV

Peter Robinson21 · 2014-07-04T12:42:00+00:00

I suppose I should probably mention that things are looking a bit lean right now. There's just... well, there isn't any money, I guess. It’s a bit of a situati…

Anthony Wilson22 Member

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#121 · Jul 7, 2014

analogheron19 said:but there isn't a single instance where a club does everything in its power—including illegal stuff—to wreck the private and professional lives of their own fans. You know, where they non-selectively push videos on them, incite local clubs and police against them, or where customs officials personally call state ambassadors in the countries we visit to threaten them if they help their own citizens in any way.

In Eindhoven, they literally declared a state of emergency for the first time since World War II on the day Dinamo Chicago visited. Any American citizen who tried to enter the city was basically committing a crime.

neonraven112 Active Member

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#122 · Jul 7, 2014

Look, I used to be okay with all the chatter about the management at other clubs—I’ve always been more of a bystander, even though I’ve been part of the group for 25 years. I was never one for the intense factions; I just showed up to the games, cheered my heart out, and hung with the guys. Sure, I thought the group messed up certain calls sometimes, but I respected them. I was constantly torn between this pointless dilemma of hating the big boss and loving Dinamo Chicago. But once the crackdown hit full force? That’s when I realized exactly what kind of evil we’re actually fighting. When the cops hauled away a guy along with his 7-year-old kid just because of some bullshit orders from the top... when I got cornered in front of the entrance after the derby and they harassed my family—and I swear on everything, I didn't do a single thing wrong other than shouting against the brass. After that, I can't listen to any of this talk. I love the club, but as for the boss? Honestly, I don't give a damn. So, to my former friends in the stands: when you see a 7-year-old crying because the big boss ordered the police to arrest his dad just for demanding fair elections, you can take all that "loyalty to the club" crap and shove it. You can wave it right in front of your kid's face for all I care.

analogheron19 Newcomer

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#123 · Jul 7, 2014

Peter Robinson21 said:If you’d actually bothered to read my old posts, you’d already have your answer regarding where I’ve been for the last two years. I’m really not in the mood to keep repeating myself here. You want to know how many times I’ve been busted? Up north, maybe three times—spent two days in a cell for one of those. I got picked up once while traveling abroad, but they let me go. In Germany, I’ve been detained more than a few times. Last year, I ended up in court and got three years of probation because I laid out two Chelsea fans during the Bayern Munich vs. Chelsea FC Champions League final in Munich...

You want me to list every single riot I’ve been part of too, you little prick?

But yeah, look, you might be right that there isn't an exact carbon copy of this situation elsewhere, but the idea of sending the cops into people's neighborhoods, treating fans like criminals, stripping them down, and hitting them with excessive tear gas happens everywhere. Maybe it isn't quite as massive as what happened at the stadium back home, but it exists. I condemn it, plain and simple.

And as for why I don't head over to the East Side anymore, I already wrote that down—no repeats...

Dude, you’re full of it.
I asked you specifically how many times you’ve been arrested in recent years just trying to get to a game. I wasn't asking about riots or any other nonsense—just straight-up attempts to show up and support your club.
You really picked the wrong person to talk down to. I’ve tolerated a lot of your stupidity up until now because I can respect a different opinion, but I've given you a pass on pretty much everything. Not anymore. You’re officially on my radar.

Nathan Foster23 Active Member

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#124 · Jul 7, 2014

Anthony Wilson22 said:In Eindhoven, they literally declared a state of emergency for the first time since World War II on the day Dinamo Chicago visited. Any American citizen who tried to enter the city was basically committing a crime.

It was the same deal in Paris. Every single person identified as an American—whether they were there for the game, business, or whatever else—ended up in custody that day.

analogheron19 Newcomer

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#125 · Jul 7, 2014

Anthony Wilson22 said:In Eindhoven, they basically declared a state of emergency for the first time since World War II just because Dinamo Chicago was in town. Any American citizen trying to step foot in that city was treated like a criminal.

I know exactly what I'm talking about because I lived through it myself.

Peter Robinson21 MemberOP

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#126 · Jul 7, 2014

analogheron19 said:You’re being ridiculous.
I asked you how many times you’ve been arrested in recent years just trying to make it to a game. I’m not talking about any legal trouble or anything—just a straight-up attempt to show up for my favorite club.
You really picked the wrong person to talk down to. Up until now, I’ve tolerated some of your nonsense because, regardless of our differences, I’ve given you a pass on pretty much everything, but from here on out, you’re officially on my radar.

Since I have to answer you one more time, I told you to just read what I wrote... after the match in Madrid, I decided I wasn't going to the stadium anymore... so I've actually been at every single game in the West stands... if you had bothered to read my previous posts, you would know that, and you wouldn't be asking this question again...

I wasn't talking down to you... that’s just your own interpretation... and honestly, why should I care if I'm under your "radar"? You aren't exactly a major figure in my life ;-)

I think people tend to make themselves the center of attention a bit too much in these discussions... I'm really not that important, nor is my opinion... just like your opinion of me doesn't matter, whether you think you're vital to this whole thing or not...

By the way, I don't know how old you are, but calling me a "kid" is a bit much since I'm a little past that stage... you could have said "grandpa" or "old man," but calling me a kid just isn't quite right ;-) ☕

boldtiger7 Active Member

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#127 · Jul 7, 2014

There is some rather suspicious construction work happening up north, and then you have those small houses sitting to the west. I can’t help but wonder if that’s where the workers are actually stationed, or if it serves as some sort of front for funding the local nonsense coming out of the northern districts... I honestly don't see any point in continuing this debate regarding Gastic anymore. If he lacks the courage to even stand his ground in the north, that should tell you everything you need to know about his character.

Austin Collins6 Newcomer

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#128 · Jul 7, 2014

These mercenary followers are my favorites. It’s not even that they're mercenaries—everyone knows they’re just here for the paycheck. The real joke is the ones preaching to us that Dinamo Chicago is everything above all else.🤣Someone is essentially gutting the club and treating it like trash, yet you walk in like the ultimate naive fool, heading to the stadium to cheer for "your" Dinamo. It's because of people like you that the stereotype exists—that fans are just mindless cattle, blindly pushing for their team without having any clue who they actually support or what the club even stands for. When you really sit back and think about it, it’s honestly pathetic.

Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer

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#129 · Jul 7, 2014

What’s so strange about this?

I see it all the time. People spend all day hating on the party in power, then when election day actually rolls around, they just stay home.☕

Jack Myers2 Active Member

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#130 · Jul 7, 2014

I don't know why everyone is acting so shocked; this is just the classic American story of how we ended up in this mess.🙂

The FBI over at the headquarters is basically running at a hundred miles per hour right now, so I wouldn't be surprised by posts like this one.
Honestly, I don't even see the point in arguing with anyone who doesn't realize that Dinamo Chicago essentially doesn't exist anymore. How can anyone identify with that club while that whole group of losers is running the show instead of being stuck at Remka...

I'm done talking about the agency, though. Everything is already out in the open, and there's no sense in just going in circles again.🙂

Eric Phillips52 Active Member

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#131 · Jul 7, 2014

Peter Robinson21;50712421 said:I don't know who you are, but if you know me, you know I’ve always marched to my own beat. I never just drifted along with the crowd... Back when there was the Boycott, I was one of the first to stand with everyone else, even though most people I knew—who have since moved out East—called it "stupid." But fine, we went with the boycott. A year later, everyone could see it hadn't achieved a damn thing. Around June of that year, I said, "The boycott isn't working; we need a different approach." That’s when the threats started: "You're against us," "You're against the association," and all that nonsense. All I said was, "It yielded nothing; let's try something else." Then, by August, the group decided, "No more boycotting," and it was back to the games. Some said only MLS matches, others said every single game. I decided to go with the crew I've been traveling with for 20 years. If one goes, they all go. So there I am, standing in the stands at the Santiago Bernabéu in Madrid, surrounded by people I know who acted like they were part of the boycott during the Champions League (even though they were actually showing up to Champions League and EL matches while I sat them out during the boycott)...]

You and EVERYONE like you—the ones who kept showing up to games during the boycott, whether it was MLS or European matches—are absolute bottom-feeders. Both the ones who made themselves known and the ones who tried to hide. You are truly a disgrace to humanity. Can you even look yourselves in the mirror knowing you turned your backs on the group? You spat in the faces of your own comrades and sided with the very people trying to dismantle the Bad Boys. And you still have the nerve to stand in the North Stand acting all neutral. Honestly, man, what a massive collection of morally bankrupt individuals.

Peter Robinson21 MemberOP

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#132 · Jul 7, 2014

Eric Phillips52;50717573 said:
Peter Robinson21 said:I honestly don't know who you are, but if we have met before, then you probably know I've always been the type of guy to march to the beat of my own drum; I’ve never really been one to just drift along with the crowd... back when there was the Boycott... I was actually one of the first people to stand up for everyone else, even though most people around me—and I mean the majority of folks I knew who ended up moving out East—were telling me, "Man, this is just foolishness." But, well, I suppose one goes along with a boycott... fast forward a year later, and everyone can see that the boycott didn't achieve a single thing... I remember saying back in June of that year, "Look, the boycott hasn't brought anything to the table, maybe we need to try a different path"... and that’s when the threats started coming at me, things like, "You're against us," or "You're against the association," and so on... all I said was, "It didn't work, let's try something else"... which led to the group deciding in August that "the boycott is over" and it was time to start going to games again... some people thought we should only go to MLS matches, while others argued we should attend every single game... personally, I decided to just head out with the same crew I've been going to matches with for twenty years... if one goes, they all go... so there I am, standing in the stands at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium in Madrid, surrounded by a bunch of guys I know who acted like they were part of the boycott during the Champions League (even though they were still showing up to Champions League and EL matches while I stayed home during the boycott period itself)...QUOTE]

You and EVERYONE else like you—the ones who kept showing up to games during the boycott, whether it was MLS or European matches—are absolute bottom-feeders. That includes both the ones who made themselves known and those who tried to hide. You are truly a disgrace of human beings. Can you even look yourselves in the mirror knowing you turned your backs on the group? You spat in the faces of your comrades and sided with the very people trying to shut down the Bad Boys. And yet, you still have the nerve to stand in the North Stand acting all neutral. Honestly, what a massive collection of morally bankrupt individuals.

... if you haven't read carefully, I didn't go to any games during the boycott period... but since you're so incredibly bright, I went ahead and bolded that part just for you... perhaps you missed it, or maybe you just weren't reading properly... so yeah...

And if those who hid are such huge pieces of trash, then maybe you should just head out East and say that to their faces, because some of them are still living right among you...

Eric Phillips52 Active Member

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#133 · Jul 7, 2014

Peter Robinson21;50718339 said:
Eric Phillips52 said:It’s obvious you’re just as clueless as whoever inspired that username of yours... If you didn't bother reading, I stayed away from all matches during the Boycott period... but since you're clearly such a genius, I went ahead and extra-bolded that just for you... maybe you missed how things actually work... so yeah...

And if those guys who were hiding are considered the absolute worst of the lot, then why don't you head out East and say that to their faces? Because some of them are still living among you...

So, let me get this straight—you were in Madrid?!?!? Was that during the Boycott? Yes. So did you break the Boycott? Yes. And yet, here I am writing that down, and you have the nerve to call me stupid. Then you try to act clever with your little jokes and "extra bolding," you idiot. Let me simplify this for you and everyone else like you: if you broke the Boycott, or any other major decision made by the group you claim to belong to, then you're a traitor, a coward, and an enemy of that very group. Is that clear enough for you now?

goldenskipper6 Newcomer

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#134 · Jul 7, 2014

You’re out here coming for a guy who barely even has anything to do with the group, all while the core circle is busy hanging out with those guys from up north 🤷

Scott Jones9 Newcomer

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#135 · Jul 7, 2014

goldenskipper6 As I have previously noted:
It seems rather unfair that you are all targeting an individual who has almost no connection to this group, while those within the inner circle continue to socialize freely with the Northerners. 🤷

Could you perhaps be a bit more precise? Given that you claim to have such thoroughly verified information, I would appreciate a little more clarity.

goldenskipper6 Newcomer

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#136 · Jul 7, 2014

People know what's really going on, they just aren't saying anything, but it doesn't much matter anyway.

...you might want to delete that previous post because this whole thing is just spinning wheels in the mud.

Jonathan Anderson11 Active Member

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#137 · Jul 7, 2014

goldenskipper6 said:you guys are out here coming for a guy who barely even has anything to do with the group, meanwhile the "inner circle" types are out there hanging out with those folks from up North 🤷

so, just curious, how much are they paying you per hour?

Scott Jones9 Newcomer

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#138 · Jul 7, 2014

goldenskipper6 said:People are aware of it, they just stay silent. It doesn't matter.

...I suggest deleting the previous post, as this conversation is nothing more than empty rhetoric.

So, in that case, you are also one of those people who knows the truth yet chooses to remain silent. I simply fail to grasp the purpose of venting your frustrations here if that is the case. If you truly possess evidence, then present it; I fail to see what the obstacle is.

hiddenridge99 Member

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#139 · Jul 7, 2014

Come on, everyone—let’s stop giving these insecure, half-witted losers any more of our mental energy...

Do not engage with this idiot. Don't quote him, and for heaven's sake, don't share his mindless Facebook ramblings on a page that barely pulls seventy likes. Stop reposting whatever garbage his mother’s PR firm vomited onto Facebook, YouTube, some random forum, or a news site...

STAY POSITIVE AND KEEP RESISTING THE SYSTEM!!!!

Harold Kim5 Newcomer

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#140 · Jul 7, 2014

Good grief, the sheer level of Mamić-FBI corruption being funneled into this situation... it's incredibly insidious, operating entirely behind the scenes just to force their own agenda through. But honestly... it’s sickening, really. I can't even fathom how far they've actually gone with this...

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