#21 ·
reddrifter24 said:look, we aren't Miami or Chicago, people here just think differently...
you mean.. another powerhouse in town?
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you mean.. another powerhouse in town?
#22 ·
boldeagle20;50057279 said:Anyway, I was wondering if any of the stadium staff were actually detained for throwing flares!? (yeah, I know, ridiculous question 🤣 🤣 )
But even with those 30 people, it's pretty obvious who threw them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3iD...ature=youtu.be
We really ought to ask the local authorities to look into this... ☕
Son, do you have a fever? Come on, tell me you're joking 🤣 😂
The Tragicomedy continues, though I suspect the commentary from the rival fanbases will change completely once Jerry Maguire's tactics and red tape start being applied to Your grandstand...
#23 ·
boldeagle20 said:But hey, nothing lasts forever, right? 🙂
only the Miami crew ☕🤣
Jeremy Thomas4 said:You’re being dense. I’m not trying to insult you, just giving you a heads-up. These idiots are out here celebrating trophies handed to them by Jerry Maguire after he slapped them with fifty bans.
Now, because of this fake "success" from the guys in Portland, the city is gonna have to jump into this mess and burn through taxpayer money. Between the Dachshunds and the circus clowns, they never stop screwing us over.
Maybe there's some backroom deal... these guys will fall off because they were too small and yelled the wrong things, but they'll probably just get a pass and have their bans lifted since it's all just one game anyway. 😁
Yeah, basically... like I already said, those Portland fans should've shown where they stood during the cup run when they actually had numbers (both at home and yesterday). They should've shut the whole thing down to show respect to the Chicago Blackhawks fans (respect to Torcida for that 😉 )... that should've happened the second that new law dropped. Some people took it hard (can't expect much from small groups given the risk—like I said), but there was a massive chance to stand together against the league again... we had two huge groups that could've pulled it off (Torcida, who stayed loyal, and Portland, who should've fought the league despite the trophy chance)...
Man, Portland... looks like you guys picked a side, so now you can go eat dirt. ☕
Anyway, so we don't end up just talking nonsense about other teams, let's focus on our own... 1986 is the best, believe me when I say that. 😉
#24 ·
reddrifter24 said:We aren't Miami or Chicago; people here just think differently...
You hit the nail on the head. Every single word. 😂 😂 😂
#25 ·
Who cares about those Blackhawks fans... they just handed the trophy over to the big shots and got screwed in the process... let's go, Miami! Food and games!
#26 ·
Honestly, I don’t know whether to laugh or just cry looking at the comments from some folks I actually used to respect... Apparently, we never learn from our own mistakes.🙂
#28 ·
boldeagle20 said:Anyway, I’m wondering if any of those hired agitators actually got picked up for throwing flares. (Yeah, I know, funny question 🤣 🤣 )
But looking at those 30 guys, it’s pretty obvious who threw them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3iD...ature=youtu.be
We should probably ask the authorities to look into this matter. ☕
Same thing happened back in San Diego in 2011. The police just stood there watching them throw stuff.
But hey, nothing lasts forever, right? 🙂
There’s nothing worse than seeing a fan calling for punishment against someone else, even if we're talking about paid instigators.
#29 ·
slyeagle512 said:There’s nothing worse than a fan calling for someone else to get punished, even if you're talking about hired goons.
The paid agitators don't even count.😉
#31 ·
boldeagle20 said:Actually, I'm wondering if any of the mercenaries were actually detained for throwing flares? (Yeah, I know, it's a silly question 🤣 🤣 )
But among those 30 people, it's pretty obvious who threw them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3iD...ature=youtu.be
We should probably ask the authorities a few things about this ☕
The exact same thing happened in San Diego back in 2011. The police just stood there while they were throwing stuff.
But hey, nothing lasts forever, right? 🙂
As a fan, why would you care if the police mess with them? Of course they won't, but why would anyone even want that? From a supporter's perspective, it doesn't make any sense.
#32 ·
I think you guys are being way too hard on the Cleveland crowd and ignoring reality.
1. Koch is basically just Volpi’s guy, which makes him nothing more than a subordinate to Mamić. Mamić is just some small-town thug; these guys are playing in the big leagues. Just because Mike plays nice with him doesn't mean he likes him. It just means he knows who runs American soccer and who holds the keys to any actual results. Volpi handed him that job, so he does what he's told. Without Mamić, none of this happens.
Look, that doesn't make it right, and I'm not delusional enough to think Koch is some saint. But it explains things. It also hints that Koch might eventually ditch the Head. The fact that Mamić screwed over Štimac doesn't matter—Štimac is cut from the same cloth as Mamić. Just another small-town thug.
2. Cleveland is an economic powerhouse compared to Miami. It's leaning towards the West Coast vibe; I was there for business recently and was actually impressed by their marketing. They're operating at a level similar to the Cleveland Browns, and they're miles ahead of Liverpool FC, who—in my opinion—overdid it by slapping their logo on everything, much like those Mamić lectures led by his nieces and smokers. This club could actually be a winner even after the Head is gone.
3. I highly doubt anyone in Cleveland gives a damn about the Head or the USSF. I don't know where you got that idea. Sure, people turn a blind eye sometimes. But do you really think folks in D.C. or Miami wouldn't do the same, considering how few trophies they have compared to Cleveland? I'm talking about the general public here, not just the ultras.
4. You're absolutely right about one thing: the Head has his hands in everything. He might not have actively blocked Cleveland, but he certainly didn't go out of his way to hand the cup to Real Madrid. If the Head decided Real Madrid should win the cup, they would've taken it. American soccer is a circus, plain and simple. Everyone knows it. Whatever, some people just enjoy the show. Honestly, the whole Soviet Union era, socialism, "brotherhood and unity"—it was all a joke. Our politics is a farce, so people keep voting for the same nonsense. Our job is to explain that farce to the public. They managed it in Miami, and they did it in D.C. because people are boycotting Mamić; that first cup final match was a massive wake-up call. It's time for the Armada to step up, put pressure on Mike, and tell the Cleveland public to reject this circus and show some teeth against the criminals and the gang.
1. Koch is basically just Volpi’s guy, which makes him nothing more than a subordinate to Mamić. Mamić is just some small-town thug; these guys are playing in the big leagues. Just because Mike plays nice with him doesn't mean he likes him. It just means he knows who runs American soccer and who holds the keys to any actual results. Volpi handed him that job, so he does what he's told. Without Mamić, none of this happens.
Look, that doesn't make it right, and I'm not delusional enough to think Koch is some saint. But it explains things. It also hints that Koch might eventually ditch the Head. The fact that Mamić screwed over Štimac doesn't matter—Štimac is cut from the same cloth as Mamić. Just another small-town thug.
2. Cleveland is an economic powerhouse compared to Miami. It's leaning towards the West Coast vibe; I was there for business recently and was actually impressed by their marketing. They're operating at a level similar to the Cleveland Browns, and they're miles ahead of Liverpool FC, who—in my opinion—overdid it by slapping their logo on everything, much like those Mamić lectures led by his nieces and smokers. This club could actually be a winner even after the Head is gone.
3. I highly doubt anyone in Cleveland gives a damn about the Head or the USSF. I don't know where you got that idea. Sure, people turn a blind eye sometimes. But do you really think folks in D.C. or Miami wouldn't do the same, considering how few trophies they have compared to Cleveland? I'm talking about the general public here, not just the ultras.
4. You're absolutely right about one thing: the Head has his hands in everything. He might not have actively blocked Cleveland, but he certainly didn't go out of his way to hand the cup to Real Madrid. If the Head decided Real Madrid should win the cup, they would've taken it. American soccer is a circus, plain and simple. Everyone knows it. Whatever, some people just enjoy the show. Honestly, the whole Soviet Union era, socialism, "brotherhood and unity"—it was all a joke. Our politics is a farce, so people keep voting for the same nonsense. Our job is to explain that farce to the public. They managed it in Miami, and they did it in D.C. because people are boycotting Mamić; that first cup final match was a massive wake-up call. It's time for the Armada to step up, put pressure on Mike, and tell the Cleveland public to reject this circus and show some teeth against the criminals and the gang.
#33 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:What does it even matter to you as a fan if the police mess with them? Of course they won't, but why would anyone even want that? For a supporter, there's just no point.
If they had actually targeted women, the elderly, or kids, maybe the Armada would have revolted. This way? There’s nothing to react to.☕
#34 ·
The people from Cleveland made it pretty clear where they stand—I’m talking about the Armada—but you really have to understand what the Armada actually represents. They’re going to face the exact same thing that happened in Washington, D.C.: a massive split between Mike’s loyalists, who just follow orders, and the hardcore fans fighting to save the club's identity. You'll see regular fans drift into the hardcore scene, while the ultras end up becoming Mike's followers. It’s the same pattern we're seeing here. If someone can't see that, they aren't paying attention. Honestly, if you can't recognize that Real Madrid's season will crater after the league ends, you're missing the point. It feels too late now, and I don't quite get why everyone is wasting so much energy on these debates. It seems like this whole nation is intentionally choosing to stay divided and fight amongst itself.
#35 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:The folks over in Cleveland have made it crystal clear whose side they're on—if you actually understand what the Armada represents. They’re headed for the exact same fate as the fans in Washington, D.C.... a massive split. You'll end up with the "Koch loyalists" in their digital avatars, worshipping the establishment, versus the hardcore supporters fighting for the club's soul. Then you've got the casuals who eventually drift into the hardcore scene, and the ultras who somehow turn into corporate shills... it’s the same cycle we’re seeing here. Honestly, if you can't see that, you're brainless. If someone can't recognize that this is just the typical Real Madrid season after the league ends, they aren't playing with a full deck. It's too late now anyway. Why is everyone wasting so much energy on these debates? This whole country seems to enjoy picking fights and dividing itself on purpose...
Look, let's be real: Mamić is a monster. His entire strategy for running Real Madrid is basically dismantling it just so he can build a private empire on the ruins. On the other hand, Koch might actually have motives that benefit the club for once...
But that doesn't change the fact that his method for getting there involves teaming up with crocodiles in a swamp instead of taking a clean, decent path. It really makes you wonder how much anyone could actually enjoy or celebrate something built like that.
#36 ·
Jesse Campbell said:I think you guys are being a little too hard on the folks from Cleveland—honestly, I feel like some pretty glaring facts are being brushed under the rug here.
Koch is essentially just playing by Volpi’s rules—he’s basically the cosmic director reporting straight to Mamić. Look, let's be real: Mamić is nothing more than a low-rent, small-town hustler, whereas these other guys are actually operating in the big leagues. Just because Mike has learned how to grease the wheels with him doesn't mean there's any actual respect there. It simply means he understands exactly who pulls the strings in American soccer and knows that, without that specific brand of "assistance," nothing gets done. Volpi handed him the assignment, and he's just following orders. Without Mamić, the whole thing would fall apart.
Look, obviously that doesn't make it morally right—and let’s be real, I’m under no illusions thinking Koch is some paragon of virtue. But it does shed light on certain things. It even suggests that this same Koch might eventually turn his back on the Head. As for the fact that Mamić screwed over Štimac? That doesn't change a thing—because, honestly, Štimac is just as bad as Mamić. They're both just small-town thugs at heart.
Cleveland is a much stronger economic powerhouse than Miami—it’s oriented toward the West, and having been there recently for business, I was genuinely impressed by their marketing game. They're operating at a level comparable to the Cleveland Browns, and they are miles ahead of Liverpool FC. Personally, I think Liverpool has gone way too far, slapping their crest on absolutely everything under the sun, not to mention all those Mamić's endless lectures that seem to lead nowhere except into a dead end. Honestly, if they keep this up, that club actually has a shot at long-term success even after the Head is gone.
I highly doubt anyone in Cleveland actually plays favorites when it comes to the Head or the USSF. Honestly, I have no idea where you all even got that notion. Sure, maybe there’s a bit of selective blindness going on—let’s be real—but do you honestly think things would be any different in Washington, D.C. or Miami? If they weren't cutting themselves some slack, we wouldn't be sitting here staring at such an empty trophy case compared to the rest of the league. And I'm talking about the general public here, not just the hardcore ultras.
Look, you’re absolutely right about one thing—the Head has his hands in everything. He might not have actively sabotaged Cleveland, but he certainly didn't go out of his way to make sure Real Madrid snatched him up either. If the Head had actually decided that Real Madrid should land that cup, we would’ve had him in a heartbeat. Let’s be honest: American soccer is a complete farce. It’s obvious to everyone. Some people just accept it—they actually seem to enjoy the circus. Honestly, the whole legacy of the Soviet Union, the era of socialism, all that "brotherhood and unity" nonsense—it was all just one big joke. Our politics is a farce, too, which is why people keep voting for the same old nonsense. Our job is to finally explain this absurdity to the public. In Miami, they managed to push back, and in Washington, D.C., it worked because people simply boycotted Mamić—that first cup final match was a massive wake-up call. Now, it’s time for the Armada to step up, put the pressure on Mike and the Cleveland crowd, and reject this entire charade. It’s time to show some teeth and stand up to the criminal element and the gang running the show.
And you really manage to capture all that—just from a single business lunch followed by a stroll along the boardwalk?😁
Way to go!
Mike is a total hillbilly at heart—I mean, just look at the way he dresses. He looks like some third-rate drill sergeant who clearly hasn't seen a tailor in his entire life.
It’s the exact same mentality—it's all just different shades of the same thing. Honestly, there isn't much of a difference, aside from some minor nuances and the fact that he actually set foot in Africa, whereas our boy here only ever experienced it through a postcard—or perhaps in some past life where he was actually a primate.😲
At Liverpool FC, the only thing actually separating us from the rest of the pack is our marketing—and even then, we’ve barely moved the needle by a fraction of an inch.
Just look at Bayern's marketing strategy—they actually went so far as to slap their crest on a rubber duck for the bathtub!
Slapping a logo on everything is just a survival tactic at this point—it’s nothing more than a desperate play for applause. It's all about trying to scrape together some funding, by any means necessary, as long as they aren't technically picking the pockets of the taxpayers!
The situation in Cleveland is absolutely maddening—honestly, they’re just as much "old-school mentality" folks as the rest of us. It’s really just the fallout from that massive influx of people with that specific way of thinking back during the war years. But even setting that aside, it's still at that same frustrating level—because, unfortunately, we all carry those same traits deep down.
If you’re willing to trample over your own dignity, throw away your honor, and completely wreck your future just to get your hands on a trophy—then honestly, you’re just being an idiot. It’s that same old, flawed mindset we see all too often back home—that irrational, short-sighted way of thinking that seems to pop up whenever things get intense.
I’m with the fourth guy on this—mostly. Though I have to disagree on one thing: the fans are going to claim the whole thing is just a massive farce. The average person out there thinks we're all nothing but hooligans who deserve a beating!!🙂
#37 ·
Whether you want to focus on Saturday's matchup or stay stuck in this endless debate, it honestly doesn't matter; who cares, really? We can't change anything right now, so we just have to sit tight and let time reveal the truth in its own way...
#38 ·
What’s been going on with the BBB crew just isn't going to happen to the Armada. Seriously, if you have an opinion about someone, maybe try keeping it to their own specific thread.
BBB taking the show on the road to San Francisco and Cleveland.
BBB taking the show on the road to San Francisco and Cleveland.
#39 ·
boldeagle20 said:Anyway, I want to know if any of those hired goons actually got busted for throwing flares!? (yeah, I know, ridiculous question 🤣 🤣 )
But you can clearly see who threw them among those 30 guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3iD...ature=youtu.be
Maybe we should ask the authorities a few questions about this ☕
Same exact thing happened in San Diego back in 2011. The cops just stood there watching them throw stuff.
But hey, nothing lasts forever, right? 🙂
I threw a flare—actually, two—and I was the only one taken in for throwing flares. When I asked the officer why none of you guys were arrested since you were the first ones tossing seven damn flares, he just said: "We weren't filming them" 😉 so much about being arrested 😉
#40 ·
Those cowards weren't shouting at the Bad Boys; they were aiming right at the USSF.
Don't you dare try to compare what's happening at Yankee Stadium to the situation over at Dodger Stadium and claim things will play out the same way here. If, by some stroke of luck, Koch had taken over Real Madrid—regardless of whether the club was private or not, I'm talking strictly about the leadership's conduct—Yankee Stadium would be packed today. We'd have a polished, top-tier club planning a brand new stadium, a powerhouse competing at the highest levels in Europe. Instead, Mamić is just a primitive opportunist who does everything for a quick buck. He shames the club's reputation at every turn, couldn't care less about the fans, and has effectively driven them out of the stands. He wastes money on mediocre, unproven players when that capital could have been used to build a squad capable of dominating Europe year after year. Koch isn't like that.
Koch is part of the USSF, and damn it, people are naturally going to resent him for it. But look, you have to realize that when private capital is being injected, people are going to act ruthlessly just to ensure that money is maximized. There is a massive difference between spending someone else's money without having to answer to anyone and spending your own. Even those guys using his image in their avatars ( 👋 ) hold him responsible for this mess with the USSF and the players we poached from Real Madrid. Honestly, it's embarrassing, and I’ll admit that. But I don't believe this will cause the club to collapse, nor will it tear down an administration that has accomplished (and plans to achieve) more than any other board could in 250 years. I’m saying this as a supporter who isn't a hardcore ultra, but that's pretty much how the general public feels at Dodger Stadium (in the non-fan sections).
Don't you dare try to compare what's happening at Yankee Stadium to the situation over at Dodger Stadium and claim things will play out the same way here. If, by some stroke of luck, Koch had taken over Real Madrid—regardless of whether the club was private or not, I'm talking strictly about the leadership's conduct—Yankee Stadium would be packed today. We'd have a polished, top-tier club planning a brand new stadium, a powerhouse competing at the highest levels in Europe. Instead, Mamić is just a primitive opportunist who does everything for a quick buck. He shames the club's reputation at every turn, couldn't care less about the fans, and has effectively driven them out of the stands. He wastes money on mediocre, unproven players when that capital could have been used to build a squad capable of dominating Europe year after year. Koch isn't like that.
Koch is part of the USSF, and damn it, people are naturally going to resent him for it. But look, you have to realize that when private capital is being injected, people are going to act ruthlessly just to ensure that money is maximized. There is a massive difference between spending someone else's money without having to answer to anyone and spending your own. Even those guys using his image in their avatars ( 👋 ) hold him responsible for this mess with the USSF and the players we poached from Real Madrid. Honestly, it's embarrassing, and I’ll admit that. But I don't believe this will cause the club to collapse, nor will it tear down an administration that has accomplished (and plans to achieve) more than any other board could in 250 years. I’m saying this as a supporter who isn't a hardcore ultra, but that's pretty much how the general public feels at Dodger Stadium (in the non-fan sections).
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