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Bad Boys - Part IV

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amberskipper11 amberskipper11 Member
17 messages
joined Apr 2012
#61 ·
Jamie Jackson12 said:Man, I'm finally free today... 😁

That’s exactly why you’ve been sitting in Scrapper's cafe since early this morning...
Screw Becker, Jerry, and everyone else... 🙂
cosmicbear15 cosmicbear15 Active Member
196 messages
joined Feb 2012
#62 ·
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Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#63 ·
Ashley Allen85 said:I'm staying out of the debates here. Not worth the blood pressure spike dealing with the idiots who chime in with mindless nonsense—don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about you. I could write a book on this, but why bother? Just one thing though... based on what you said, it sounds like even the mercenaries have the same goal: getting rid of Mamić. 🙂

Making moves. Yeah, exactly. But why even bother staying quiet when those suckers and losers keep baiting him? 🙂 Who cares? We all know who calls the shots here, just like how things have always been. 🙄

Of course they aren't trying to get rid of Mamić. They just want everyone looking anywhere else but at him. And honestly? It’s working.
bluewalker92 bluewalker92 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jan 2018
#64 ·
Jesse Campbell and casualri pretty much nailed the whole situation... and look, regarding the Cup, I agree that Mamić could’ve snatched it if he actually felt like playing dirty, but do you guys honestly think it makes sense for him right now? With the entire public breathing down his neck, why would he risk taking the Cup and dealing with all that drama and penalties? What does he even gain from a trophy? He’s got a ticket to the Champions League waiting for him—who gives a damn about the Cup when that's on the line? Or do you really believe he actually cares about Real Madrid? 😁 Besides, Cleveland has been holding their own, actually beating way bigger clubs in Europe this year and having a much better run on the continental stage. Anyone who thinks Cleveland can't beat Real Madrid through legitimate means is just... well, it's like what Kek would say at a reception: this forum describes everything perfectly. Nobody here is sane. 😁
boldtiger7 boldtiger7 Active Member
62 messages
joined Aug 2021
#65 ·
It is quite an interesting development if the rumors about installing cameras under the west stands are actually true; it might finally allow the guys to gather around the monument without a single damn cop in sight😁
copperheron11 copperheron11 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Sep 2013
#66 ·
I’m seriously considering sending another email over to Fareu, much like I did back in

last fall. Back then, they gave me the runaround, claiming there was nothing to be done because Mamić wasn't even at the stadium. But now? Now that Šuker has gone and made those racist remarks practically during the handover ceremony, I feel like if we can clear out certain elements from our stands, it’s high time this branded hillbilly faces some consequences too. ☕
ruggedcanyon2 ruggedcanyon2 Member
37 messages
joined Oct 2011
#67 ·
Jesse Campbell said:I think you guys are being way too hard on the Cleveland crowd. You're completely ignoring some pretty obvious facts here.

Koch is just playing Volpi's game. To Mamić, he’s basically the ultimate right-hand man. Look, Mamić is nothing more than a low-rent small-town thug—this is serious business we're talking about. Just because Mike plays nice with him doesn't mean he actually likes the guy. It just means he knows exactly who runs American soccer and understands that nothing gets done without his blessing. Volpi handed him that job, so he’s going to carry it out. Plain and simple: without Mamić, none of this happens.

Look, that doesn't make it right from a moral standpoint, and I'm definitely not under any illusion thinking Koch is some kind of saint. But it does explain a few things. It also hints that Koch might just turn his back on the Head whenever it suits him. And honestly, the fact that Mamić screwed over Štimac doesn't mean much—Štimac is cut from the exact same cloth as Mamić. Just more of that small-town, low-class mentality.

Cleveland has a much stronger economy than Miami. It’s more western-leaning, too. I was out there on business recently and honestly, their marketing game blew me away. They’re operating on the level of the Brooklyn Nets, while they're miles ahead of the Dodgers. Personally, I think the Dodgers have gone way too far—slapping their logo on every damn thing imaginable. Plus, you've got all those Mamić stories where everything just circles back to his nieces and some smoker. At this rate, Cleveland actually looks like they could be a powerhouse in the future, even after the Head is gone.

I seriously doubt anyone in Cleveland actually supports the Head or the USSF. I have no clue where you guys even got that idea. Look, it’s true we turn a blind eye to certain things sometimes. But you really think people in Chicago or Miami wouldn't be doing the exact same thing? If they weren't turning a blind eye, we wouldn't have such an empty trophy case compared to the rest of the league. And I'm talking about the general public here, not just the hardcore ultras.

Look, you’re absolutely right about one thing: the Head has his hands in everything. Maybe he didn't go out of his way to screw over Cleveland, but he definitely didn't lift a finger to help Real Madrid grab that trophy either. If the Head had actually decided to hand the Cup to Real Madrid, they would've walked away with it. American soccer is a total circus. It's obvious to everyone. Some people just don't care—they actually enjoy the chaos. Honestly, the whole legacy of Yugoslavia, the old socialist era, that "brotherhood and unity" nonsense—it was all a joke. Our politics is a farce, which is why people keep voting for the same garbage over and over. Our job is to make sure the public sees through the act. In Miami, they made their point. In Chicago, it worked because people finally started boycotting Mamić. That first Cup final match was a massive wake-up call. Now, it's time for the Armada to step up. They need to put the pressure on Koch and the folks in Cleveland to reject this entire scam and finally show some teeth against the criminals and the gang running the show.

👍

I feel pretty much the same way about the whole situation. Here’s the thing: I know Koch and Maminho were actually decent guys back when Koch first jumped into pro sports. Just like a bunch of those other wealthy owners out there. Only difference is, Koch earned his money the right way. I seriously doubt he’d ever risk all that just because he’s buddies with Maminh. He isn't about to trade his fortune for a stint in federal prison over some shady dealings. Honestly, right now? Nobody hanging out in Mamić's circle is looking at a jail cell anytime soon.

It’s the honest truth—even if guys like casualRi won't admit it. The Armada turns a blind eye to certain things just because the city is riding high on the hype, and they don't give a damn. Most people won't own up to that, though, because then they'd have to face the fact that they aren't actually sticking to their supposed "ideals." As for Koch, I honestly think he hasn't got a clue how the ultras in Cleveland (and everywhere else) actually think. He’s too busy obsessing over how to squeeze every possible win out of Cleveland. To him, Koch equals the fans. He isn't even here because of Mamić; he couldn't care less about him or whatever drama Maminho is getting into with the supporters.

Look, what I’m trying to say is that it would be absolute perfection if the Armada just stepped up right now, tore the board apart, and kicked all those guys out for good. But the real question is how many people would actually show up to make that happen. If you ask me, 95% wouldn't do a damn thing. As for that other 5%? Respect.

For God's sake, they shut down the Armada thread just to stop the fighting, and now all that mindless bickering just migrated right here. Great. Now we've got the same old chaos happening in the wrong damn thread. 🤣
Samuel Walker10 Samuel Walker10 Active Member
57 messages
joined Sep 2014
#68 ·
Pacho, you’re acting like you haven't already taken a beating before...
Remember that? You little brat.
Raymond Gonzalez7 Raymond Gonzalez7 Active Member
89 messages
joined Sep 2011
#69 ·
copperheron11 said:I am seriously considering firing off another email to Fareu, much like I did back in the fall.

Back then, they brushed me off regarding Mamić, claiming there was nothing they could do because he wasn't physically at the stadium, but now that Šuker has gone and made those racist remarks practically during the handover ceremony, I think it's time for a change. If we're expected to clear out our own stands to maintain order, then it is high time this branded hillbilly faces some actual consequences too.☕

Damn you, Fareu.
Scott Harris6 Scott Harris6 Member
27 messages
joined Apr 2013
#70 ·
Raymond Gonzalez7 said:damn, what a total joke

so you've even got the Washington, D.C. version of this absolute farce 🤣
boldeagle20 boldeagle20 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Sep 2012
#71 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:And why on earth would anyone even want that?From a fan perspective, it just doesn't make any sense.

No sane fan would ever sign off on this. This has crossed every line of decency. When you're talking about a group that hunts down kids on the streets of Washington, D.C., and orchestrates everything from their dirty tactics to those pathetic banners—it’s just low. I have zero sympathy for them.
You people are either delusional if you're actually supporting him, or you're just trying to build some kind of imaginary moral high ground. It's laughable.
slyeagle512 said:There’s nothing lower than a fan calling for a penalty against someone else—even when those people are nothing more than paid mercenaries.

Give me a break. 😕 So we’re supposed to lecture them about honor and trust? That’s my line? Please. Half these guys are already on some blacklist anyway. If the owner just makes a few phone calls, they’ll walk right through the stadium gates like they own the place. So where exactly is the problem?
How many of our own—myself included—fell for the same idiocy and now find themselves banned from the stadium? And because of that, I’m somehow expected to feel some sense of fan solidarity with them? Give me a break.

I couldn't even muster a laugh at this. You’re the only one sitting here playing the sympathizer, wishing them well while they continue to gut everything our group stands for.
Daniel Carter9 Daniel Carter9 Member
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joined Jul 2009
#72 ·
boldeagle20 said:No decent fan would ever want that. This has crossed every line of what’s considered acceptable. For a group that spends its time hunting down kids in Washington, D.C., and engaging in everything from shady stunts to disgusting banners, I have zero sympathy.
You all look ridiculous trying to defend them or act like there's some shared moral ground here.

I couldn't care less about them. The only thing separating you, me, and the rest of us from people like that is simply refusing to be like them.
Eric Phillips52 Eric Phillips52 Active Member
105 messages
joined Oct 2013
#73 ·
I just want to weigh in on these cowards who are terrified of anything even remotely radical or extreme. If we had actually embraced a radical approach when it mattered most, we would have kicked the agents, the establishment hacks, and the entire corrupt leadership out of power ages ago. Instead, we were constantly coddling the sensitive types—people more worried about whether they’d "get in trouble" than actually fighting. We spent all our energy agonizing over how the sympathizers would react or what the media would say, and now look where that got us. The old guard and their cronies are still running circles around us, while those very people we were trying to protect have completely vanished. Unfortunately, we haven't had enough true radicals, and frankly, we still don't.
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
437 messages
joined Oct 2007
#74 ·
feralpanther50 said:It’s funny how things flip. One day you’re all worshiping those absolute morons and their little cronies, and the next thing you know, they’re "useless" or "sellouts." Honestly, people just jump on whatever bandwagon is winning. It all comes down to who's serving who and whether you're part of the "in" crowd or not.

Man, things work totally differently over here in America.😁>
Joseph White12 Joseph White12 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2010
#75 ·
might say:
No decent fan would ever agree to this. It’s crossed every reasonable line. For a group that hunts kids down in Chicago and carries out those kinds of shady operations—from the people involved to the banners they hang—I have zero sympathy.
It’s honestly laughable that you’re supporting them or trying to establish some kind of moral high ground with them.

Give me a break. 😕 You expect me to talk to them about honor and trust? To look at them that way? They’re basically on a permanent blacklist anyway, and they still slip into the stadium whenever N. pulls a few strings. So where’s the actual problem there?
So many of our own people (myself included) fell for stupidity and got banned from the stadium. Am I supposed to feel some sort of fan solidarity toward them now?

I couldn't even laugh at this one. Just pity them. I hope they never get caught for the things they do that drag our whole group through the mud.

🙏

It’s completely nonsensical to bring up "ultra mentality" when talking about them. We're talking about people dedicated to destroying the very lifestyle I love. They've made deals with the devil to corrupt fans. And yet, here are people starting debates with such scum, actually treating them like a legitimate faction of fans. 😲

That is exactly what they want. But seriously, don't insult me. They aren't a faction, and they aren't fans. They’re just low-life thugs and degenerates.
Jack Myers2 Jack Myers2 Active Member
58 messages
joined Aug 2013
#76 ·
It seems... you guys are spending more time debating about sons now. 🙂
gentlegull3 gentlegull3 Member
15 messages
joined Mar 2014
#77 ·
boldhound8 said:Things work quite differently here back home😁

It’s pretty much the same story everywhere you look across this country, not just when it comes to the sports fans.
I really hope the Bad Boys end up teaching those pampered little softies a lesson they won't forget.
casualrider43 casualrider43 Active Member
205 messages
joined Nov 2012
#78 ·
Let's go, BBB!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GILXx_JVtdg For this city and this club, we would give our very lives!!
Everyone, get ready for Railroad Saturday!
Forget about the traitors and those self-righteous hypocrites. They’ll eventually realize just how badly they screwed up...
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#79 ·
Look, if the moderator from the Bad Boys doesn't want to open a dedicated thread—or even just a discussion specifically about the Bad Boys, their rhetoric, and Miskovic—then at least move the whole conversation over to the chat-topic.
We actually had plenty of room to breathe because the debate was surprisingly constructive, and the mods were only deleting the absolute essentials.
Charles Ward6 Charles Ward6 Member
24 messages
joined Apr 2013
#80 ·
no money;50071805 said:

Friday, May 16th—catch the BBB "Resistance to the System" concert at the local arena!
Saturday, May 17th—it's game day, Lakers-Celtics—EVERYONE HEAD TO THE EAST SIDE!
Sunday, May 18th—check out the "for all those who have nothing" tournament out on the Plain


Get everyone on the phone—let's show up in a massive crowd!

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