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granitecrane2 said:Are you actually being serious right now, or is this some kind of joke? The final export comes from the original high-res files. Your editing, cutting, and compositing happen using the proxy. That’s literally what a proxy is—a substitute. You work with the proxy, and once you're finished, you just hit render and the software (whether it's Premiere or DaVinci) pulls from the original footage for the final output.

Is the video industry really in such a state of decline lately that people don't even understand basic workflow anymore?

It honestly feels like you have absolutely no idea how things work in a real production environment. I'll just leave you to your little theories.

Terry Collins9 said:I don't mean to overstep or meddle in anyone else's business, but around here, we have... Gigabyte za $1467It features two fans rather than three, assuming that makes any difference to you.
When you're ordering something from Germany, you really have to account for an extra 5% on top of the sticker price to cover the VAT difference, not to mention shipping costs. So, taking all that into consideration, yours ends up being roughly... $1600.

The landscape of retail trade policies is becoming quite interesting. It seems we're seeing a split in how things are handled: some retailers insist on selling a GPU only when bundled within a full system configuration, while others offer them as standalone items without any restrictions. Why the inconsistency? It makes you wonder what's driving these different approaches to hardware sales.

Even if they were. $500 I wouldn't bother picking up a cheaper RTX 2060 GPU from that particular retailer. They have the audacity to act like they actually care about gamers while simultaneously padding their margins with those hidden fees. Why even bother? ☕

My Sapphire RX480 kicked the bucket yesterday. It couldn't have happened at a worse time, either—I’d just finished upgrading my rig with a motherboard that lacks integrated graphics, leaving me completely stranded. But that was just the first wave of the shock; the second hit when I actually looked at the current state of the GPU market. ☕

wanderingbison9 said:It seems to me like you don't have the slightest clue how things actually work in practice. I'll leave you to your little theories.

Well, if "internship" at your firm is just a fancy word for being clueless, then I guess we’re on the same page: I haven't the slightest idea what your version of "professional experience" actually entails.
What part of my explanation did you miss? I clearly stated that the final export comes from the original source files. Proxies are strictly used during the editing process as a lightweight substitute for the raw footage—usually at a much lower resolution—to make the workflow less demanding on your system.
It’s honestly no surprise that our animation and film industries are falling apart here in the States, and advertising is following right down the drain when this kind of "practice" is allowed to continue.

granitecrane2 said:Well, if "standard practice" at your company is just code for ignorance, then sure, I'll admit I have absolutely no clue what your version of "best practices" entails.
Which part of my explanation did you miss regarding how the final export comes from the raw footage, while a proxy is merely used during the editing process as a lightweight substitute—usually at a much lower resolution to save resources?
It’s honestly no surprise that the animation and film industry here in America is struggling, and advertising is falling apart too, when this is the kind of "professionalism" being practiced.

You’re certainly firing on all cylinders today, aren't you? It seems like you've completely lost the thread of our actual argument because you're just arguing for the sake of arguing now. Why don't you take a step back, look over what we actually discussed, and try telling me again that you don't need more than 6GB of VRAM? I explained quite clearly that you need it when rendering the final product, and you certainly need it even when working with proxies that match the original resolution. Even if you are working with half-resolution files, there are times when you absolutely have to see how an effect looks at full resolution because, wouldn't you know it, the result doesn't always look the same... and then suddenly, your software throws a "GPU memory full" error right in your face.

Please, feel free to swoop in and save the entire American animation and film industry (🤦) just by using proxies. It’s clear you have a very firm grasp on the situation, provided we ignore the fact that you don't actually have a clue what you're talking about.

granitecrane2 said:Well, if "industry standard" is just code for being clueless, then sure: I have absolutely no idea what your version of "standard" is.
Which part of my explanation didn't sink in? The final export comes from the raw footage. A proxy is just a substitute used during the edit—usually at a much lower resolution to make things easier on the system.
It’s no wonder the animation and film industries here in the States are struggling, and advertising is falling apart too, when this is the kind of "professionalism" being practiced.

wanderingbison9 said:Man, you're firing on all cylinders like a bad set of Bosna svjećica. You completely lost the thread of what we were even arguing about because you're just picking fights for the sake of it. Go back and read our previous messages. If you still want to claim we don't need more than 6GB of VRAM, then fine, but I already explained why you need more when rendering the final, and even when working with proxies that match the original resolution. Even if you're working with half-res, you eventually need to see how an effect looks in full res because—guess what?—it doesn't look the same... and then your software tells you that your GPU memory is full.

Feel free to swoop in and save the American animation and "film industry" 🤦 with your little proxy tricks. It’s clear you think you understand the situation perfectly, even though you clearly don't have a clue.

You guys are hilarious. It's been three months since the last post, and now you're jumping in to fight because someone posted in the exact thread where the argument started to remind you where you left off. 😬

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Just ordered an Nvidia 3070 Ti today.
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 Ti gaming OC 8 g

It is strictly for video editing.
I was weighing it against the RTX 3080, but I suppose I wouldn't see a massive difference in my workflow, and the price jump seems pretty steep.

What’s a fair price for an MSI RX 580 8 GB gaming x? It’s about 3.5 years old now and I've used it strictly for gaming. I'm noticing prices are tanking lately, so maybe it's time to just let this one go and grab an RX 6600.

Jerry Watson2 said:What's a fair price for an MSI RX 580 8 GB gaming x? It's about 3.5 years old and was used strictly for gaming. Prices seem to be tanking lately, so maybe it's time to dump this thing and pick up an RX 6600.

1700, maybe 1800

Christian Torres3 said:Maybe 1700, possibly 1800

Those prices are insane. You could have bought a brand new one for that much.😵

Zachary Nguyen2 said:Can you believe these prices? Honestly, back in the day, you could have picked up several brand-new units for what they're asking now.😵

So, I was looking at the numbers, and it seems like those MSI RX 580 8 GB gaming x cards were going for over $500 used, while those leftover "new old stock" units sitting in warehouses were hitting the $750 mark... isn't that just wild?

wanderingbison9 said:Those RX580 8GB cards were moving for over $450 used, and you could find "new old stock" sitting in warehouses for about $750...

I actually sold my 480 8gb for $900 just two months ago.

You can occasionally stumble upon a GPU on sale right at MSRP here and there.

I ended up ordering an RTX 3060 12 through my cousin over in Germany.

If I recall correctly, the MSRP is roughly $1000, and my total landed around $1050, which is basically that plus shipping. Plus, it isn't exactly a bottom-tier cooler—it actually has more VRM phases and heat pipes than the cheaper models.

I had to sacrifice FreeSync on my monitor (since it only works via HDMI, and only AMD supports FreeSync over HDMI 2.0 on my specific screen), but I skipped the RX 6600 because of that x8 bandwidth issue. That’s likely going to be a headache for anyone on PCI-e 3.0 motherboards down the road, though it's fine on PCI-e 4.0. Right now, the only place I've noticed the hit is in Doom (about a 20% performance drop), but that trend will only increase.

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Timothy Kim60 said:You can still find GPUs on sale here and there at MSRP.

Ordered it. RTX 3060 12 Through my cousin in Germany.

I reckon it's around the MSRP. $1000I walked away from all of it. $1050It’s roughly that, plus it isn't exactly some budget-tier cooler—it's got more VRM phases and beefier heatpipes than those cheap models.

I sacrificed FreeSync on my monitor since I'm stuck using HDMI—and with my setup, only AMD supports FreeSync over HDMI 2.0. I ended up skipping the RX 6600 entirely because of that x8 bandwidth limitation. It’s fine on PCIe 4.0, but on PCIe 3.0 boards, it's going to be a headache. Right now, I'm seeing about a 20% performance hit in Doom, but that gap is just going to get wider as more games come out.

Still waiting for those RTX 3060 Ti and RX 6700 XT cards to hit some actual, sane price points. Not happening until then. $1667☕

I'm looking to swap out my Rx580 later this year. Goal is 3440x1440p at 144Hz.
Hopefully, by the second half of the year, we’ll see something significantly better than an RX 6700 XT hitting the shelves for around $650.

wiredotter14 said:I’m looking to pick up a replacement for my RX580 later this year, specifically something that can handle 3440x1440p at 144Hz.
I’m really hoping that by the second half of the year, something significantly better than an RX6700XT shows up on the market for around $600.

I have to admit, my experience using the RTX 3060 for video editing and post-production hasn't been particularly impressive, especially with all those annoying bugs. Like you, I'm just waiting for an affordable AMD card that offers at least 2x or 3x the performance of my old Rx580; I haven't really warmed up to Nvidia unless we're talking about a Quadric, but there's just no way I can swing that kind of budget right now...

Hey, is it actually worth dropping $2167 on an ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3060 12GB that's brand new in the box, but comes without a receipt or any kind of warranty?

Ethan Miller96 said:Hey, is it worth dropping $2167 on an Asus ROG Strix rtx3080 12gb? It's brand new in the box, but there's no receipt or warranty included.

No.

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Ethan Miller96 said:Hey there, I was just sitting here wondering if it’s actually worth pulling the trigger on this one. $2167 I have an Asus ROG Strix RTX 3080 12GB sitting here, completely brand new and still in its original packaging, though I should clarify right upfront that it doesn't come with a receipt or any remaining manufacturer warranty.

If you can manage to get a chance to run some tests on it before actually pulling the trigger on the purchase, then I suppose everything is perfectly fine.

The 6800XT straight from the store is sitting at $2333 now. Honestly, that beats out a 3080 with no receipt or warranty, plus you’re getting an extra 33% more VRAM on top of everything else.