Bad Boys - Part IV

Honestly, forget about shutting them down—just let the whole thing burn out. What they’re doing right now is just a temporary fix, a flash in the pan. This trash won't last forever; if they don't crash and burn soon, they'll end up behind bars eventually. They've started arresting government officials, but you know this piece of filth won't be touched until the timing is "perfect." I'm not going to try and pin down an exact year—it's impossible to be precise with how things run in this country—but two or three years seems like a reasonable window for the fallout. Though, let's be real, I highly doubt the Republican Party will actually try to clean house once they take over, since this guy is practically part of their DNA at this point. They probably even fund half of them, which is why he's got enough cash to stay untouchable. No trials, no accountability... and unfortunately, no real democratic elections either.

And regarding the stadium situation—if this trend of banning people keeps up, maybe we should just stop showing up to home games altogether until that scumbag is gone from the club? Just focus on away matches instead. I’m saying this because we need to protect our own. These groups survive on people, and if the authorities keep handing out bans, they can't even get into the games for free like they used to. Look, screw pride and screw playing at the stadium when it's obvious they can just do whatever they want. The government doesn't give a damn; politics is too bogged down in its own mess to care about the team or the sport. It's always the fans who take the hit. As soon as there's any kind of unrest, the politicians start preaching about "tightening the laws," trying to copy that draconian "English model" where you can't even stand in the stands without someone harassing you for supposedly "obstructing their view." 🙂

All in all, yeah, it's a rough stretch for the group, but there's no use spiraling. You just have to stay persistent and keep making the right moves.

Jeremy Thomas4 said:Roughly a hundred people got caught up in this today, and honestly, some of them were only targeted because they were forced toward the wrong exit even though they were clearly in the right section. I guess what I'm trying to say is that this whole thing was planned out and organized from the top down, so maybe we should stop acting like geniuses and waving our membership cards around like they actually matter in this situation. It’s just not the point. At this stage, I suppose the only real move left is for us to just clear out of the stands, because there really isn't any other way through this.

That’s exactly it. I guess we just can't keep going like this, unless someone comes up with a different plan or we all just decide to leave the stands entirely. Even with my own membership card, I ran into the same kind of trouble, so it doesn't seem to make much difference at all.

We were hit with about 80 citations. Everyone received a violation notice under the sports hooliganism prevention laws—it was quite the sweep. The federal authorities have already begun pulling data to compile blacklists. According to what the local police told us, a judge will probably toss the charges out, though I suppose one can never be entirely certain.

Kevin Evans3 said:Forget about shutting us down; let them try. This whole thing they’re pulling is just a flash in the pan. If this piece of trash doesn't pass away naturally, he’ll end up in federal prison sooner or later. They’ve already started arresting government officials, so there's no reason this filth won't be next. I won't put a specific year on it—it's hard to be precise with how things work in this country—but two or three years feels like a reasonable window. Though, I highly doubt the Republican Party will actually try to clean house once they take power, given how much they're constantly looking out for their own. They probably even fund parts of his circle, so the guy stays untouchable because he's got the cash. That’s why there are no trials and why we don't see real democratic elections.

As for the stadium, if this trend of banning people keeps up, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to just ditch our home turf until that bastard is gone from the club and focus entirely on away games? I'm saying this purely to prevent more bans. These groups rely on people, and if they get banned, they can't support the team for free anymore. Honestly, screw pride and screw playing at the stadium when they clearly do whatever they want. The state couldn't care less; politics is too bogged down in its own mess to give a damn about our football. It's always the fans who catch the heat. Once some unrest happens, they start preaching about tightening laws and copying that "English model," where you can't even stand in a stadium without someone harassing you for "obstructing" their view.🙂

All in all, yeah, these are tough times for the group, but there's no room for despair. You just have to stay persistent and make the right moves.

Nobody is talking about giving up or despairing. We need to distance ourselves from the repression. There are a million ways to do that, but this isn't the place to discuss them.

So, here’s the deal—there were way too many of us, ranging from the hardcore Centurions to the casuals, and honestly, nobody inside even laid a finger on me. I could've easily sneaked in some smoke and been good for fifteen minutes, but I guess that was just a one-off fluke; the other groups were getting shaken down like always. Once the game wrapped up, they kept us on a bus for two and a half hours driving around the outskirts of Chicago, and then, just for kicks, they dropped us off in the pouring rain two miles away from the highway. It felt like they were definitely settling the score for all the grief we gave them at the stadium.

Anonymous said:bbb 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZld...ature=youtu.be

The group is pretty much circling the drain☕

Regarding the debate over when politicians will finally decide to move against Mamić, I guess the most likely timing would be just a few months before the general elections. It feels like they’d want that arrest to serve as a message to the public—sort of showing that they actually can get things done and were even capable of taking down someone as big as Mamić...

Why step back now? They orchestrated this specifically because they want us out of the picture—they want us to disappear entirely. If anything, this is the moment we need to ramp up our efforts. We have to mobilize every single person we can reach!

They wouldn't even attempt something like this if we actually had any numbers behind us. Honestly, I have no idea where everyone went—where are all the people who were filling up the stands just a month ago?
Stop spreading this nonsense about the group shutting down or anyone giving up; that is simply not the case.
And for the record, you can use your membership however you see fit! For heaven's sake, people, just join already. What are you waiting for?...

Has anyone else actually considered pulling out a phone or maybe even just a digital recorder when dealing with these guys at the exit? I mean, specifically during those moments when they start claiming their numbers are dwindling, or when they’re shoving their way into a crowded subway car... is there really any reason why one couldn't just whip out a device to document it? Is it truly such an issue to record a standard, non-confrontational question for the sake of accountability?

casualrider43 said:They wouldn't be pulling this on us if we actually had numbers. I mean, seriously, where did everyone go? Where are all the people who were filling up the stands just a month ago???
Stop talking nonsense about dissolving the group or giving up, because that isn't even on the table.
And besides, you can use your membership however you damn well please!! Just join already, people, what's the hold-up...

Furthermore, where are the people who showed up to those neighborhood town halls? Every single meeting had 80 to 100 people there, and it wasn't always the same small circle of faces. Where are they now? Why is nobody willing to put their neck on the line? If people actually stepped up to work for this group even half as much as they whine and complain, we would have dealt with the undercover agents and Mamićev ages ago.

cosmicbear15 said:

Sixty of our guys got hauled in—half at Petrov's and half over at Trešnejvka—and you just know they're all getting banned...🙂 🙂
On top of that, they’re hunting for some guy in the footage who supposedly punched a security guard being carried off the stands. Newsflash: the guy wasn't hit, he just wiped out in that massive stampede through the sections.
So yeah, just another day of them handing out penalties to whoever they feel like... totally random!

The title of this thread should honestly just be "Drama Queens"🙂
Look, I get it—things are tough right now. But for heaven's sake, can we please just stop with the endless complaining? Nothing is actually going to change because of these outbursts; all you're doing is fueling unnecessary hysteria without any real purpose.

We need to look at this situation realistically—we should probably boycott the local domestic matches. I mean, sure, keep showing up for the big European nights or maybe the Hajduk and Rijeka games where you actually see crowds of 1,000 to 3,000 people... but these small-scale matchups? When there are only 300 people in the stands, nothing changes. All we're doing is racking up fifty or a hundred individual bans, and before you know it, after just a few rounds, nobody’s even going to show up anymore. 🙂We really need to sit down during the mid-season break and put a solid plan together—something to actually get people mobilized for the away games once more. We need to act AS ONE.

mistysurfer19 said:We need a reality check here. We should boycott local home games—except maybe big European matches or when Hajduk or Rijeka are playing where we get crowds of 1,000 to 3,000. On those small games with maybe 300 people, nothing changes except everyone gets hit with 50 or 100 bans, and in a few weeks, nobody shows up anymore. 🙂We need a solid plan mid-season to actually mobilize the core group for away games... ALL HANDS ON DECK.

Just do what you can. This is war. You won't accomplish anything by charging out alone just to take a bullet. If there’s no way to stay organized, then don't be organized. Just grab a vuvuzela, blow it in their faces, and whistle the whole damn game. Who cares?

Focus on away games whenever possible. If they ban us from the stadium, we gather in the streets or at Congress, or right outside Congress. Crying about it won't do a thing.

And we need to educate the regular fans—the ones planning to go to Europe—so they support the movement too. If we can win them over, great; if not, nobody’s going to stick around anyway.

As for the guys in the North, just ignore them. Who cares? There aren't even twenty of them, their opinion doesn't matter, they aren't right, and nobody wants them in the stands. Let them do whatever they want. Even if we all get banned and they're the only ones left, who cares? They fit this kind of club perfectly.

For us, it's about fighting smart. As long as we're still standing, we keep moving forward.

Christian Jones said:Sixty of us got detained—half at the local precinct, half over at Trešnejvka—and they’re all gonna get banned 🙂 🙂
On top of that, they're hunting for some guy in the footage who allegedly punched an officer being carried off the stands. Newsflash: the guy wasn't even hit, he just wiped out during that massive crush in the aisles.
So yeah, just another case of them handing out random penalties to whoever they feel like!

You really think the bans are happening? I don't see any actual grounds for it, but they'll definitely expand the blacklist by 60 or 70 names for sure.

Jacob Price23 said:Are you actually betting on those bans being lifted? Honestly, I don't see much legal ground for them to stick, but mark my words—they’re just going to expand that blacklist to include another 60 or 70 names...

Even if the bans don't happen, the blacklists aren't going anywhere... at the end of the day, this is a total fight to the bitter end!

Christian Jones said:Look, if they don't step in with bans, those blacklists aren't going anywhere... at the end of the day, this is a total fight to the last man standing!

You really shouldn't push for a "fight to the death" mentality—it’s reckless. Because once everyone is exhausted and broken, who on earth is going to be left to help Dinamo????

Well, the xovjek perspective holds some weight here. It’s clearly a case of misdirection—just like how there isn't a single cop in sight, yet within five minutes, you'd have five hundred of them swarming the area. You really have to realize they are doing everything in their power to phase us out entirely.

It’s not that they can't pull it off; honestly, it's fascinating how we've managed to stick around this long given all the tactics they've used against us. It’s actually incredible that we're still standing. And I'm not just talking about us older guys who drift in and out... this younger generation of Bad Boys has a mindset that's just untouchable.

But I guess if there aren't any viral clips, flyers, or flags, it doesn't really count, right?