Bad Boys - Part IV

mistysurfer19 said:We shouldn't just fight blindly until the very last man stands... because once we're all gone, who's actually going to be left to support Dinamo????

If there were any other way to fix this, it would have been done by now. Look, when the government doesn't give a damn about you—when they let some shady suit run the whole police force and trample over every single law in the book—you end up feeling completely alone in the world. Just totally abandoned...

We all know how many people are being banned or stuck on those blacklists, but yesterday's numbers have to be even higher. I mean, think about it... if that's the case, then what was the point of all those meetings and the huge turnout in the neighborhoods over the last month??? Seriously!!! Right now, every single person in those stands matters. Because the smaller our crowd gets, the more freedom they have to walk all over us...

boldtiger7 said:The xovjek point was valid. It’s clearly a distraction tactic; there isn't a single cop in sight right now, yet you could have five hundred on the street in five minutes if they actually wanted to. Just realize they are doing everything possible to push us out.

It’s the same story in the city. For a Cup final, you'd expect over 3,000 locals showing up, yet the police presence is practically non-existent until later this afternoon.
In the past, under these exact circumstances, the streets would be packed.

It's just one deceptive move after another across the board.

We need to handle the derby against Hajduk with extreme care. Very carefully.

Word is the feds were out of control yesterday because of all the crackdowns. Multiple people told me the same thing.

Look, plenty of idiots in the crowd are loving the chaos, but even they know this is a total disaster. Being treated like Mamićev lapdogs isn't exactly a win.

mistysurfer19 said:We shouldn't just throw ourselves into a suicidal fight out of pure spite. If we burn every single resource fighting until there's nothing left, who on earth is going to be left to support Dinamo when the dust settles?

Bandic☕

Jesse Campbell said:Word on the street is even the riot squad was losing it yesterday because of all the crackdowns. Heard it from a bunch of people.

Okay, sure, there’s a ton of idiots in that crowd who love the chaos, but even they know this is rock bottom. Being treated like Mamićev lapdogs isn't exactly a vibe.

While I was waiting for my buddy to get through all that madness, some guy outside the stadium told me a cop actually let him go after seeing his grocery receipt, saying "there are still good people out there." Problem is, those good people are maybe 1%. The rest? Just trash waiting for any excuse to act out and take their issues out on everyone else.

America—it’s the kind of place where you might actually see state troopers checking high schoolers' IDs just to make sure everyone is sitting in their assigned seats... even when the bleachers are completely empty. 🤣
Coming soon to a theater near you 😂

Honestly, whenever you see the government wasting its resources on trivial nonsense like that, it’s a pretty clear sign that the whole system is headed toward a total meltdown. ☕

Jesse Campbell said:Apparently, even the riot police were losing their minds yesterday because of the crackdown. That's what several people told me.

Look, there are plenty of idiots out there who enjoy this chaos, but even they have to realize we've hit rock bottom. They’re being treated like Mamićev lapdogs.

It wouldn't have gone to the breaking point if another hundred people hadn't been blacklisted yesterday. Antolić gave direct orders through Sokolov’s security detail to the police, and while the cops were bitter, they were essentially paralyzed. As for the actual complaints, the courts just toss them out without a second thought—but then again, the judiciary has never actually been an issue. The real problem is why people were camping out in the Oranica district yesterday for no damn reason. To quote a cop at the precinct: "You people are absolute morons. You either walk right up and hand over your info because you're too stupid to realize there's no longer any justification for a blacklist, or you're just pure masochists."

Honestly, if they’re going to treat us like this, maybe we should just show them how much we care by heading over to the South Side to cheer for the rivals. We aren't wanted anyway. I don't know if it's even doable given how clubs without real fanbases handle away tickets, but theoretically—purely as a thought experiment—it would be wild if a thousand supporters showed up. Like, imagine if a mid-tier team like the Cleveland Browns suddenly had a thousand of our guys showing up at their stadium... it would be a statement. We could seriously look into starting our own club from the absolute bottom, or even taking a case to the Supreme Court regarding civil rights. But really, the most important thing is staying smart and constructive about this. They are just looking for any excuse to blame us, so we can't let them provoke us...

Anonymous said:A similar outcome was probably inevitable given how the sectors were set up—it was really just a matter of time. To be honest, I wasn't even sure if it would go down today, but once I saw that second line of police moving in, everything clicked. It felt like some of the more experienced officers used halftime to reposition themselves over to Sector 3 since they didn't have enough coverage for Sector 4. My heart actually goes out to that one guy—he seemed less like part of the group and more like someone who just lives and breathes Real Madrid; he was trying so hard to explain that he needed to leave because he'd be late for work and might lose his job. In the end, he had to wait until the very end of the match, even though he’d hoped to slip out around the 70th minute. Just tragic...🙂
All in all, witnessing this just makes me more eager for every single match. I don't know if I'm losing my mind, but I do know that justice—even when it moves at a snail's pace—eventually prevails.

Yeah, I'm that 😁 guy who ended up being late for work, obviously. But honestly, the best part of this whole ordeal is that you can't even provide a logical answer to the simple question of why I'm not allowed to leave the stadium. It's a total paradox—during some away trips in Europe, I wasn't even permitted to enter the stadium, yet here I am, unable to leave "my own" 🤷. It feels like a direct violation of the right to freedom of movement, with absolutely no legal basis! And I have to wonder why I find myself stuck in this cycle, game after game, like a moth to a flame. Some people weren't even letting folks go to the restroom 🙄
. And yes, I do have a season pass.

Choices! 🙂

Mad respect to anyone who's still out there fighting the good fight...

ivann88 said:

Honestly, Z. A. deserves a monument—every single fan in America, especially you guys, should be out there building one. Every week this guy does more to help take down the mob than half the fanbase combined, and he’s doing it right on the biggest news sites in the country.
And God forbid those fans over in San Diego or anyone else actually sees these thugs get ousted before the next administration takes over. If they stay, it won't just be that they can't get rid of them—it'll be that they'll be ten times more powerful than they are now.
Look, I'm not trying to make this political or about team loyalty; it's just what everyone has known for ages.
P.S. I was chatting with some non-sports people the other day, and they were all baffled by how nobody has used "unofficial" methods to deal with this guy yet. My take? It wouldn't last this long in a place like San Diego. Someone would have settled the score—some local legend or a hero from the stands.
Also, I still can't wrap my head around why you guys keep calling Mamić a junkie. Even the fans say it. It's an insult to anyone who's actually struggled with that. It should be obvious to everyone by now—the guy is just a textbook psychopath, straight out of an encyclopedia.

Matthew Foster8 said:I honestly can't wrap my head around why you people keep labeling Mamić a drug addict. It’s even coming from the fans now, which is just an insult to anyone actually dealing with addiction. I don't know how many times we have to make it obvious that this guy is basically a textbook definition of a psychopath.

The level of insight on this forum is such a perfect, tragic microcosm of the entire fan base; it’s truly a depressing benchmark for everything wrong with sports culture today.🤣

What a joke of a boycott. The traitor’s out there making clones while you guys tear each other apart like piranhas.

This guy was just ranting a couple of weeks ago about how filing appeals is basically pointless and that we should just take everything straight to the Supreme Court immediately—that whole vibe. Now, suddenly, he’s some enlightened ultra. Tomorrow, he’ll probably be playing the "dad with a kid" who can't even make it to the stadium because of those old-school hooligans, only to pivot a week later into being some undercover HaHao member who's actually "on the side of the fans," talking all about how the North and East stands need to unite so he doesn't have to drag his toddler all the way to Yankee Stadium anymore. Just keeping it chill, I guess! 😉

Jesse Campbell said:What kind of boycott is this? We're seeing clones of traitors everywhere while you lot tear each other apart like piranhas.

Even if we don't know exactly who's behind it, this isn't just one guy's opinion. Just wait until we see the new roster at the next game; we'll probably have another hundred names on a blacklist just because of Mamić. You're acting like Napoleon, Thomas, leading people further and further down a path while the blacklists just keep growing. I'm not saying you're doing this on purpose, but dragging everyone down with you might be a worse strategy than us just stepping back for a while. People are getting burned, whether you choose to see it or not.

Jeremy Thomas4 said:I could potentially agree with you, though one could simply say all of this directly. It is true that currently, the younger generation is being sidelined... but if a boycott is truly the solution, then a decision must be reached quickly and within the appropriate channels.

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I am in complete agreement. There are many matters that ought not to be discussed publicly on a forum like this.

The issue remains that during certain meetings, the younger staff are afraid to speak up or offer their genuine opinions for fear of facing judgment... regardless, it is certainly better than having such discussions here.

We really need to architect a robust public awareness campaign built upon clearly defined objectives and backed by sufficient resources. Anything less than that is just shouting into the wind for the sake of the higher-ups.

Jeremy Thomas4 said:Look, even if we don't know who's pulling the strings, this isn't just one guy's take. We'll see how things shake out with the new roster at the next game, and there'll probably be another hundred names on some blacklist because of Mamić. You're acting like Napoleon, leading people straight into a wall while the blacklist keeps growing. I'm not saying you're doing it on purpose, but dragging everyone down with you might be worse than us just walking away for a bit. People are getting burned and you're totally blind to it.

Me leading people? Are you out of your mind? This isn't some massive political rally.🙄

I called this exact mess eleven years ago when I said the football mafia was behind all the crackdowns... and that Mamić buys people off. Back then, maybe 5% of people listened. Today, 95% believe me.☕

Jesse Campbell said:Me, leading people? Are you out of your mind? This isn't some small internet forum group...🙄

What we are witnessing right now is exactly what I predicted eleven years ago when I claimed that football syndicates were pulling the strings behind this repression... and that Mamić was buying everyone off. Back then, maybe 5% of people believed me. Today, 95% do...☕

We all agree on the existence of the repression and the football mafia, but we don't have to agree on how to fight them. Even if we reach a consensus on the big picture, our views on tactical execution vary wildly...

There is no sense in drowning in idealism. The higher goal must be our shared purpose, not just settling personal vendettas. Pushing people toward bans, reports, and trouble might prove we were right, but the question remains... what do we actually gain from that?

Jesse Campbell said:Me, leading people? Are you out of your mind? This isn't some small-time internet message board.🙄

I saw this coming eleven years ago when I first claimed there was a football mafia pulling the strings behind all this repression... and that Mamić was buying everyone off. Back then, maybe 5% of people believed me. Today, 95% of them do.☕

What are you even talking about? Any Bad Boys who actually showed up back then knew exactly what was going on. At the time, they didn't call it bribery or shady agents; they called it "club cooperation" and "marketing." Look, I know you want what’s best, but think about the footprint this kind of repression leaves behind and the fallout from escalating these crackdowns. Personally, I'd rather see us stir the pot within the rules than face bans and shutdowns just because of some stupid jokes.