Bad Boys - Part IV

Jesse Campbell said:Get up everything that moves!!!

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Benjamin Bishop79 said:I get what you're getting at... It's high time we stop bringing out the heavy artillery before someone actually loses their cool. People are losing heart, too. I mean, they come up to me and ask, "Why even bother showing up to the game if someone's just going to..." Either smash their head with a rock... or just set their face on fire with a torch...You could just ruin your whole life... This goes for our entire scene...

Look, I don't think you can go overboard with the exaggerations here. It’s not like we're playing in a high-stakes stadium where someone is going to lose their head over a little flare. And regarding the flares themselves... you made a fair point. Anyone lighting one should have enough common sense to watch what they're doing. People aren't that reckless. Everyone knows exactly where those things are lit, and if you see someone starting up, you just step back. It's really not that complicated... 😉

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cosmicridge6 said:Fighting the Terror Machine is basically like bringing a slingshot to a tank fight... You get jumped by 200 trained thugs in their own city and you’re gonna tell me "hey, don't swing a bottle or a chair, let's be gentlemen" and end up in the ER?? Give me a break... I'd hate for anyone to walk away from a fan brawl with more than just a few bruises, but let's be real, that's how it goes... Do you even know what those guys look like?? Or what their training sessions are like? We're talking MMA fighter level, I'm not even exaggerating... And what's our 200 guys from Miami, averaging 165 lbs, supposed to do against them? It's stupid... If they invite you to a field, sure, decline if it's not your thing, but if they jump you in a plaza and you've got bottles and chairs right there, obviously you're fighting back... No matter how much people dislike you, what you guys pulled off in Poznan was impressive, hats off to you. I wasn't at that scrap the night before the game, but anyone who was actually there saw the Bad Boys hold their own, while the Lechovac guys were hiding from them most other days... It's easy to talk trash... I won't even mention what you did to us on game day, that's a whole other story, but the Bad Boys were easily number one in Poznan...

That all holds water, but what's the difference between a broken bottle and a knife? Between a marble table and a rock? Why is it somehow "fairer" to throw a bottle from Jack at someone's head than to hit them with a knee?

The average fan is maybe 180 pounds, 23 years old, drunk, high, and couldn't care less about cardio. But then there's "this guy is bigger," "this guy is tougher," "this guy is trained"—that's no excuse because you're starting from the exact same baseline as him.

Anyone who trains MMA knows an 180-pound wrestler in peak condition can toss a hundred-kilo guy around like a toy, and if they know how to strike, they can knock out a giant. They know where to aim for the KO. If you don't know how to scrap, don't show up to the games; go watch hockey instead.

Casey Gomez3 said:All of that holds water, sure, but what’s actually the difference between a broken bottle and a knife? Or between a marble table and a slab of stone? Why is it somehow more "fair" to throw one of Jack's bottles at someone's head than to just jump and drive a knee straight into their skull?

Your average fan is about 180 pounds, 23 years old, drunk, smelling like cigarettes, and couldn't care less about his cardio. But he starts making excuses—this guy is bigger, that guy is heavier, this one is more "trained." It’s total nonsense. You're starting from the exact same baseline as him, so what's the excuse?

Anyone who actually follows MMA knows how it works: an 80-kilogram wrestler in peak condition can toss around a hundred-pounder like he’s nothing. And if that guy actually knows how to strike? He can knock out a giant. You can't fake knowing where to land a punch to end a fight. If you don't understand the grit required for this sport, stop showing up to the arena. Go watch hockey instead.

First off, that marble table is way too heavy to be tossed more than two feet unless you’re someone like Sandra Perković—maybe she could pull it off. So, what am I supposed to do, train every single day just to show up to games? If I’m training that hard, I might as well make a living out of it. All I'm saying is that in a moment like that, people act on pure instinct to protect their own heads. How many times have you been jumped by a crowd that's bigger and stronger than you? Just give me a rough estimate.
It’s stupid when you have a group of 40 going against 10, especially if those 40 show up with bottles. But honestly? If those 10 decide to grab the bottles and push back, I won't even blink. They're outnumbered, yet they're still out there defending their own ground.

cosmicridge6 said:first off, a marble table is way too heavy to be tossed more than two feet unless you're Sandra Perković—maybe she could pull it off...so what, am I supposed to train every single day just to show up at the games??if I’m training every day, then that’s basically my full-time job... all I’m saying is that in a moment like that, a person just reacts on pure instinct to protect their own head... honestly, how many times have you ever been jumped by a group that was bigger and stronger than you? just give me a rough estimate...
it seems pretty ridiculous to me when, say, 40 guys go against 10, and those 40 are carrying bottles, but if those 10 manage to knock them back, I wouldn't hold it against them much—they were just trying to keep their heads safe...

Amen to that... all this talk about organized brawls is just nonsense; where's the spontaneity in any of that? isn't that the whole point of the fan life? you travel to a different city or even a different state, you brace yourself for whatever chaos might pop up, drink yourself under the table like an elephant, and head to the game just to let loose... if some guy from Russia flies in for a fight, what then? does he just fly right back home? what is he actually going to tell his grandkids when he retires? what kind of stories will he have about traveling—just some standoff in a field with ten guys against ten? that's pretty much the extent of the excitement. the only real difference in all those trips is whether they won or lost the scrap; everything else stays exactly the same... once you really think about it and read the old travel stories from the veteran members of our groups (like on that old American forum, for instance), you realize how ridiculous those Russian types actually are, and how little they truly have in common with us...

cosmicridge6 said:first off, a marble table is way too heavy to be tossed more than two feet unless you're Sandra Perković... maybe she could pull it off. so what, I should train every single day just to show up to games?? if I'm training every day, then that’s my full-time job... all I'm saying is that in that moment, a guy reacts on instinct to save his own head... how many times have you been jumped by a crowd that was bigger and stronger than you? just eyeballing it...
meni je debilno kad ide npr 40 na 10 i ovih 40 ide s bocama, al ako ovih 10 potegne boce ne zamjeram im nista puno ih je manje brane svoju glavu...

A marble table cost me some toes. It didn't fly far, but it wrecked me. Think about it—what's the point of a crew traveling to another city when they can barely stay on their feet? What do you expect from people like that, regardless of heart or whatever. People need to think about what they're getting into and how fair they're being to others if they show up unprepared or totally unready.

What are we even talking about here? 🤦 Nobody is forcing you to train, but seriously, have some backbone. Face your opponent directly instead of hiding behind props and gear. Here’s a suggestion: if nobody on our local scene wants to put in the work, then fine—just stay exactly as you are, but fight purely for the sake of the sport. Everyone is constantly obsessed with how the guys in Poland or Russia do things, but who actually cares? We aren't even in the same country, let alone playing in the same league. We might cross paths once every decade, yet you've spent years criticizing their style when it doesn't even touch our local scene.

You don't need to master a martial art or live in a gym just to step up for a sake match! Just find some courage and get out there on the field without all the extra equipment.

Joseph Harris5 said:All this talk you guys are doing 🤦 honestly, nobody is forcing you to train, but have some backbone and actually face an opponent instead of hiding behind props and gear. Here’s a suggestion: if nobody on our local scene wants to put in the work, fine, stay exactly how you are—but go fight with actual weapons. Everyone keeps bringing up the Russians or the Poles, but who actually cares about them? We aren't even in the same country, let alone playing in the same league. We might cross paths once every decade, yet you've spent years trashing their style, even though it doesn't even touch what we do here.

You don't need to master a martial art or spend every day at the gym just to get into a scrap during a game of sake!!! Just grow a pair and step up to the plate without all the extra equipment.

It’s one thing to get into a scrap when you run into another crew in town or at a party 🙂 I can agree with you there, but I’ll say it again: organized fights out in the middle of nowhere feel totally pointless to me... now, something like those Russian raids on cargo in Riga (or wherever) or targeting people over in Kyiv—that's a completely different story.

Joseph Harris5 said:All this talk you guys are doing...🤦 nobody’s forcing you to train, but have some backbone and actually face an opponent instead of hiding behind props and gear. Here’s a suggestion—if no one on our scene wants to train, fine, stay exactly how you are, but just fight with sticks. Everyone keeps bringing up the Russians or the Poles—who even cares about them? We aren't even in the same country, let alone the same league. We might cross paths once every decade, yet you've spent years trashing their style when it doesn't even touch our local scene.

You don't need to master some martial art or hit the gym just to brawl with sticks!!! Just grow a pair and step into the ring without all the extra equipment.

Finally, everything said in one single post.🙏
You people are getting exhausting, trying to define every tiny little detail in the Bad Boys thread. Just get out there to the damn matches and stop obsessing over nonsense... As for fighting, people will always respect those who stood their ground and fought honorably with sticks, like actual human beings... not like those thugs using telescopes, clubs, knives, or throwing rocks😲 like total animals...
Imagine what kind of empty headspace you need to think throwing a five-pound rock from five meters away or maiming someone with a telescope is okay—I wouldn't be able to sleep at night...

We need some kind of code of conduct introduced to our scene so that when things go south, we can fight fairly, like decent people, and that's that.

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Michael Jordan: "If you don't know how to fight, you have no business being at the games. Go watch hockey instead."

Probably one of the most mindless takes I've heard lately. So, according to this logic, if you aren't willing to get into a scrap, you shouldn't be in the stands or call yourself a fan? By that standard, there would be maybe 100 people left in every stadium who actually "know how to fight," and everyone else just wouldn't belong...

Anthony Phillips7 said:Pescaboys: "If you can't act right, you shouldn't even be at the games. Go watch hockey instead..

Probably one of the dumbest takes I've heard lately. So what, someone who doesn't know how to behave isn't allowed in the stands or to be a fan? By that logic, there'd only be like 100 people left in the whole stadium who "act right," and everyone else just... stays home? Total nonsense.

🤣🤣 Look at you, acting like the gatekeeper deciding who gets to show up to games and who doesn't.

Just ignore Pescaboys. He's just here to,🤷honestly, I have no clue why he hangs around. Probably just here to complain about everything wrong with America, the fan scene, the Bad Boys, Los Angeles FC, and all that stuff from his little corner of nowhere. Don't take him seriously.😁

-just bring up his weird history with those cultists and he'll leave you alone.☕

placidbadger58 said:I guess if you just bring up that whole situation with the Tulians, he’ll probably just leave you alone—it might actually be enough to get him off your back. ☕

I guess I'm just not quite following that joke—I don't think I really get what they're going for there. 😢

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gentlefox52 said:I'm the only one who doesn't get this joke 😢

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In Canada, tough guys spend their weekends doing stuff like this...

What's this video doing hanging out here in the Football Fans section? There’s an entire subforum dedicated to that kind of stuff, so if you guys want to go obsess over sweaty Russ fans or whatever, go do it over there, you weirdos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Vb1XsplUg

Jeremy Brooks3 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Vb1XsplUg

🙏 Killer video. No giving up here... we’re seeing this through to the end!

Look, Pesco, I haven't messed up this bad in my 15 years online, but PLEASE stop hijacking every single thread.

I’ve never seen such a massive group of people all agreeing on one thing, and right now, everyone is collectively fed up with you.

I get it, you're bored and life sucks out there in the middle of nowhere, but seriously, quit riding everyone's case.

Can we just move on? 🤷

I honestly think trying to kick a few trolls off this forum would be harder than trying to fire a high-profile coach from a major NFL franchise...