Bad Boys - Part IV

Anonymous said:Big deal, fighting by showing up at City Hall to cheer. 🙄

Comparing these two is like comparing apples to oranges. Roads and history are totally different here. Unlike Torcida, BBB has been fighting for a clean slate since the US was even founded. This unlucky Dynamo has been getting messed with from day one—not just by some local thugs, but by the President and later the American Al Capone. Back when they faced Francis, they at least had the media on their side and that stupid name change move. But Mamić? He’s got politicians, the cops, and the media all in his pocket. To me, this fight is way harder than the old one, plus it feels more like the capitalist era. Maybe fans didn't react enough during that five-year stretch from 2000 to 2005, but who could've seen this coming? No need to even talk about money or "divide and conquer" tactics. Just look at an empty stadium and how disconnected people feel from Dynamo—that tells you everything you need to know about the situation in Chicago.

On the flip side, Torcida and the Hajduk fans basically had a chance for a fresh start right when the US became independent. But instead of using all that energy to fix their own backyard, they let small-time local Mamić types run wild with the club for nearly 20 years, driving it to the brink of ruin, while blaming Chicago and Dynamo for everything.

Honestly, those guys in Tampa should've had their club sorted out a long time ago.

Key West is screwed. 🙂

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Samuel Jones31 said:Torcida backed down. I'd rather take a bullet than cheer for club OWNERS who act like war profiteers and mobsters. Same goes for the Armada.

I'm not rooting for some private Dynamo. If they go corporate, I hope enough people step up to start a real community-owned club from the bottom, maybe starting at the local amateur leagues, rather than cheering for capitalist trash.

Whoa, easy there, Karl Marx.

Torcida didn't quit. Neither did the Armada. They just have a different mindset and opted for a softer approach. It's fine. I think we'll all contribute to making things better in our own ways—through work, fighting the system, and waking people up.

If you ask me, the '90s wrecked Torcida and they haven't recovered since—they lost their edge, or what guys from the South would call "forca." For ten long years, they were basically a circus, which is a lifetime for a fan group. But that doesn't mean today's Torcida doesn't have good people in it.

Look, we have to fight for Dynamo to be a member-owned club and selling it off shouldn't be an option, but that doesn't mean they lost the battle just because other clubs go private. Right now, our club isn't officially private on paper, but in reality, it’s just one guy calling the shots.

Luckily, that's about to change. ☕

Alright, we all know the full story now—the good, the bad, and everything in between regarding Torcida, the Bad Boys, the Armada, and the guys from Gruž... can we just get back to the actual topic?
Who's heading to San Francisco?

Benjamin Thomas2 said:Alright, so now everyone’s an expert on the sins, the wins, and the bullshit involving Torcida, BBB, and the guys from the South. Can we actually get back to the point?
Who's heading to San Francisco?

And who isn't? 😠

Jesse Campbell said:Who's skipping out? 😠

And doing it on a Saturday? Only cowards would.☕

Jesse Campbell said:I honestly can't wrap my head around why there's such a flood of bitter posts—especially since I kicked off this whole debate with lines like these:

Why do you guys feel the need to force brute strength just to be first at everything? What kind of twisted mindset is that? Look, I love you guys—I love messing with you—but this isn't healthy for you... Your city and your club have fallen apart because of that mindless mentality...

Why didn't you quote the rest of your own post?

I’m not buying into your nonsense—mostly because I'm pretty sure you're just talking out of your ass—but seriously, this is completely unnecessary...

I paid my membership renewal fee about 20 days ago, but my new ID card still hasn't shown up in the mail.
Anyone else dealing with this kind of delay right now?
I know they’re probably swamped over at the DMV...

George Gonzalez said:Why didn't you quote the rest of your post?

I'm not falling for your bullshit because I know you're just capping, but seriously, unnecessary...

What am I supposed to stay quiet about? We're a unique group in all of Europe because we've spent 23 out of our 27 years fighting battles. Real ones, too. Nobody can tell me other groups haven't had even bigger reasons to protest. But they just sat there like cowards while their clubs went bankrupt or lost their souls morally and competitively...

I don't get why you care so much about what I say regarding us. Is it your problem? I already gave you guys credit for handling things better than back in the 90s when you were ten years old singing "no more Dynamo," yet now you're acting like it never happened... What else do you want?

Honestly, you guys are as exhausting as a bout of dysentery.

steelangler12 said:I paid my membership renewal fee almost three weeks ago, and my new ID card still hasn't shown up in the mail.
Is anyone else dealing with this right now?
I know they're probably "swamped"...

Honestly, I’m starting to think they’re intentionally stalling these memberships...and I don't just think it, I'm pretty damn sure about it. Any guesses why???
It's because they're scared... those cowards... but we aren't backing down.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO JOIN DYNAMO...IT IS LITERALLY ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL STEPS IN THIS FIGHT!!!

Jesse Campbell said:Honestly, I have no clue why everyone is getting so incredibly bitter in these threads, especially since I actually kicked off this whole debate by pointing out things like:

Why on earth do you all feel the need to push forcefully just to be number one at everything? What kind of twisted mindset is that? Look, I love you guys, truly—I love messing around and joking with you all—but this attitude isn't doing you any favors... This ridiculous mentality is exactly why your city and your club have gone downhill...

😂 so what are you even talking about? You start off bragging about having the most legendary group in the world, and then you end up rambling about how you have to force your way to the top...

Jeremy Torres17 said:...

You just got hit with the ultimate ignore! 🙂

By the way, a little reality check and some humility wouldn't hurt anyone.

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Jesse Campbell said:What exactly should I stay quiet about? We’re a unique breed in all of Europe because we’ve spent, what, 23 out of the last 27 years fighting battles? And let me be clear: they were righteous fights. No one can sit here and tell me other fan groups haven't had even bigger reasons to take to the streets. But those people? They just sat there like cowards, watching their clubs slide into moral, financial, and athletic bankruptcy...

I honestly don't get why you're all getting so worked up over me talking about our own group. Is this somehow about you? I even gave you guys credit earlier, noting that you reacted far better than you did back in the 90s when you spent ten years chanting "there is no more Dynamo," yet now you're choosing to stay silent... What else am I supposed to do?

Honestly, you lot are as exhausting as a bout of dysentery.

Back in the nineties, they used to mock us with songs about how everything was fine while saying "there is no more Dynamo," but in this current situation, the chants are about loving Mamić and Bandić... So really, the reaction hasn't changed at all. It's perfectly natural that they didn't react, because in the world of fandom, you rub salt in the wound of your rival. You have to look at our own provocations toward them in that same context (like that old message from 2008: claiming they swear by Ajax but won't give him a single cent!).

The Armada sings to us, "you're just Zdravko Mamić's private army"... that kind of provocation is exactly what's required. If it weren't, it wouldn't be true fandom; it would be abnormal.

It’s a bizarre scene, really—watching different groups publicly support and cheer for one another, even though every single one of them holds virtually identical values when it comes to fighting against organized crime, theft, monopolies, and the various other anomalies plaguing the game of football.

slysailor52 said:Back in the nineties, they used to mock us with lines about how there’s no more Dynamo... now it’s all about how everyone loves Mamić or Bandić. It’s the same old story. People react how they react. It’s just standard fan behavior to take shots at the rival, just like how we poke fun at them (like that one message from 2008 about how they claim to love Hajduk but won't even give them a dime!).

The Armada keeps singing "you guys are just Zdravko Mamić's private army"... that kind of provocation is mandatory. If it wasn't happening, it wouldn't be real fans.

It's a joke, honestly—seeing these groups publicly cheer each other on when they actually share the exact same goals. They all want to fight against the mafia, the corruption, and the monopolies ruining American soccer.

Obviously. These are just standard fan jabs. They take things out of context to build these flimsy, half-baked arguments. It’s just a house of cards that shows how insecure they really are about their own group.

Jesse Campbell said:Oh, absolutely—it’s just standard fan banter, nothing more. They take every little thing out of context just to spin these half-baked, flimsy arguments that fall apart the second you look at them. Honestly, it just screams how insecure they are about themselves and their own crowd.

We really are that desperate for validation, aren't we? Just picking fights over every little thing that moves...☕

steelangler12 said:paid my membership renewal over 20 days ago, still haven't seen my new ID card.
anyone else dealing with this?
I know they're "swamped"...

Mine hasn't shown up either, and I joined nearly six months ago.

The thing is, I didn't pay for the certified shipping option, so they have the perfect excuse to blame City Express for not tracking those kinds of packages.
There's a real chance they aren't even sending them out.
I know people waiting for nine whole months.
Your only way out is to actually show up at the club and pay $3.25 just to have them send it again.

People living in Chicago could always just opt to pick up their membership cards directly at the stadium (or maybe grab one at the local 7-Eleven near Ćiro's place) and then while they're already there for the game, they can take the opportunity to really turn up the heat on management.

I honestly don't get how the Bad Boys can be so blind to the fact that pretty much every fan group in the country is currently united against the sheep. When those Hajduk fans start posting their nonsense, you guys find a way to spin it or twist it to fit your narrative... but when every single group says you're talking absolute garbage, I’d probably stop and think for a second.

It's always the same story with you people—claiming you're the only ones who care while everyone else is supposedly doing nothing. It's actually kind of morbid because I'd bet anything that none of you have any clue what the other groups are actually up to. Take that one guy, for instance, who claims Torcida was fighting through bad results, completely forgetting that when they were at their most intense, the team's performance was actually at its peak. And then there's the person writing about how the club needs a complete overhaul just to insult Torcida. It makes me want to gag. It’s always someone else’s struggle that matters more than yours.

Benjamin Cruz29 said:I honestly cannot fathom how the Bad Boys fail to see that every single supporter group in America is currently tearing itself apart over what is being written. It’s funny, isn't it? When fans from some other club write something, you all find a way to spin it or rationalize it to suit your narrative... but the moment every major group collectively tells you that you're talking nonsense, I’d suggest you take a long, hard look in the mirror.

It is always the same old song with you people, starting every single argument by claiming you are the only ones with any integrity while everyone else is just lost or wrong...which is frankly quite morbid because I would bet my last dollar that none of you actually have a clue what the other groups are even doing. Take, for instance, that one guy who claims the Torcida was fighting hard during those bad seasons—he conveniently forgets that when they were at their most intense, the team's performance was actually at its peak. And then there's the type who writes that the club desperately needs a complete overhaul (while subtly insulting Torcida in the process), which honestly makes me want to retch. It is always someone else's fault, isn't it?

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Hold on, isn't that how it works... just find me one single post where someone actually criticizes what you guys do or how you do it without being directly provoked by your own nonsense.