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Bad Boys - Part IV

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Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
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#381 ·
I once knew a guy in Chicago who thought he could tame a wild mustang. He was wrong. Life doesn't work that way. The user says:
Jerry Maguire.

Zachary Sullivan2 said:My parents wouldn't be half as complimentary if they weren't being showered with praise by these people calling themselves fans.🤣

Jesse Campbell, thanks for ruining my night. 🙂

Zachary Sullivan2 I watched the video. It’s just more noise in an already loud world. I remember seeing similar nonsense back when I worked in Chicago; people always love to hear themselves talk. It changes nothing. 😁
analogmaker14 analogmaker14 Member
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joined Jun 2008
#382 ·
Anonymous said:When will this garbage finally be dealt with? It’s infuriating how much our country is failing us right now—an entire nation being lied to and misled in broad daylight while we just sit here. This trash is plastered all over the news, especially on those shady networks like CNN, and yet nobody dares to hold him accountable. That hack host just sucks up to him constantly; you never hear from a single sane caller because they won't risk their necks. Instead, it's just a bunch of idiots calling in to praise him while the addict keeps spinning his lies. Honestly, when I hear some lady defending him, I feel like burning the whole system down just to start over from scratch. Is there no end to this filth—the likes of Jerry Maguire, the journalists, and the corrupt board members who enable him? I truly hope Jesse Campbell is right and a miracle happens. After 27 years of fighting windmills, maybe we'll actually win this one. 🤷

😠
forget the revolution, let the apocalypse begin 🙂
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#383 ·
So what’s your take on why Zack Snyder, the greatest living American patriot, was tearing into John Doe like that tonight?

a) because he’s terrified of the law and investigators
b) because he isn't afraid of the law or investigators?

The absolute moral bottom of humanity over the last 10,000 years knows they’ll have to eat humble pie once their political protectors bail.
Peter Barrett Peter Barrett Newcomer
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#384 ·
Jesse Campbell said:So why do you think John Smith, the greatest living American patriot, was going off on Johnson like that tonight?

a) because he’s terrified of the law and federal inspectors
b) because he isn't afraid of the law or any inspections?

The absolute moral bottom of humanity over the last 10,000 years knows they'll eventually have to back down once their political protectors vanish.

If he actually feared the law or an audit, he wouldn't be talking like this and handing out grounds for lawsuits.

printer said:Johnson, a foreigner leading the American Department of Education, is an insult to everything we stand for. He wants to erase our entire heritage; he’s the biggest enemy of American values in history.

My god, look at those crimes being listed and the incitement of national hatred on live TV. In any other country, the police would be waiting for him outside the studio.
If Johnson and his crew don't react to this, let them be sued. They deserve it.

He's terrified. Actually, he's shaking with fear.🙄
Get it together.
Anthony Barrett37 Anthony Barrett37 Active Member
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#385 ·
There haven't been any political protectors for 15 months now...
Alex Barrett3 Alex Barrett3 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2012
#386 ·
Anthony Barrett37 said:there hasn't been any political backup for about 15 months now...

He’s been out in the cold ever since Smith went down. And I don't mean the guy living near the stadium, I mean Robert. He was the last one covering his back, but now he's basically http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdGNwtiHjC0 gone. I guess. Maybe.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#387 ·
Peter Barrett said:if there were actually any real laws or inspectors involved, he wouldn't be talking this much or begging for lawsuits

Man is terrified. He's shaking in his boots. 🙄
Get it together.

A dog doesn't bark at a village... you know how it goes.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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#388 ·
Anthony Barrett37 said:no political cover for 15 months straight...

I’m telling you again. 15 months isn't enough time for any administration to fix even one single thing, yet you guys act like it's impossible...

They're just slow and useless...

Besides, you were all laughing at me a few days ago when I said inspections would start, then you laughed when I said new laws were coming...

If Robert Smith thinks his downfall is finally happening, why can't you see it too?
vividotter40 vividotter40 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#389 ·
Jesse Campbell, with all due respect, you’re the only one who seems to see this—you’ve been insisting for two years now that our guy is moving, yet I still haven't a clue where or when this supposed move is happening...

I simply don't see any real strength in this administration, nor do I see any genuine interest in this matter beyond them trying to rack up cheap points—say, for upcoming mayoral elections or similar local races. They are currently using this as a distraction to pull the wool over the public's eyes, diverting attention from much more pressing issues, like those 400,000 unemployed citizens and the steady decline and sell-off of major state-owned corporations. Once the dust settles, everything will revert to the status quo. Did you catch how Bernie Madoff mocks our beloved Kansas City Chiefs? There's no way he goes down without some kind of natural end coming first.
There are far too many big names and deep secrets within their inner circles; they aren't about to go stabbing each other in the back...
Peter Barrett Peter Barrett Newcomer
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joined Jan 2011
#390 ·
Jesse Campbell said:I'll say it again. Fifteen months isn't enough time for any administration to fix a single thing, yet somehow you all seem blind to that...

They're just slow and ineffective...

Besides, you guys were laughing at me a few days ago when I predicted inspections, and then you laughed again when I said new laws were coming...

If Robert Smith thinks his downfall has begun, how can you all not see it too?

We don't see it because fairy tales only exist in books.
Alex Barrett3 Alex Barrett3 Newcomer
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#391 ·
John Doe, I guess it feels like the whole point of that Department of Destruction is just to take down Bernie Madoff and try to fix American soccer. I mean, it’s supposed to be the Department of Education, not some special Department of Overthrow dedicated to taking out Bernie Madoff. There are priorities, right? Some things just don't happen overnight, no matter how much we want them to, but things are finally starting to move in the direction we're all waiting for. Like Jesse Campbell would say, it's just tiki-taka style. We won't see it happening by Christmas, though.
Austin Chase2 Austin Chase2 Newcomer
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#392 ·
Honestly, whenever I see your little tirades like this, it just makes me more frustrated about how things are going to play out. It feels like he's clearly terrified of an audit, which is why he's acting out on TV like that. Could you please just explain to me how an inspector who doesn't even have real authority is supposed to actually kick him out? Maybe the best part is seeing how much Johnson and Biden can't stand him—do you really think they wouldn't have gotten rid of him already if they had the chance? I guess I just believe they'll find a way to deal with him eventually, maybe by waiting for him to make one wrong move, but this definitely isn't the right way to handle it.
Nicole Jackson3 Nicole Jackson3 Active Member
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#393 ·
Alex Barrett3 said:Priorities exist, and some things just don't happen overnight regardless of how much we want them to, but things are finally starting to move in the direction we're all waiting for. To put it in soccer terms, it's slow build-up. He won't be there by the first snowfall.

Look, here's the reality: the Department of Education has to remove an elite club president from the sports scene—someone who is blatantly and "transparently" breaking the law in multiple ways. By removing him, they win huge points with the general public, and frankly, it's in their best interest to get it done. If that's the situation—and it is—why is Johnson or the entire administration waiting a year and a half just to boot one guy out of the sports world? This guy is clearly violating the law right in front of everyone's eyes in America, yet practically no concrete action is being taken. It’s all just empty talk and posturing.

Someone, for whatever reason, is stalling the whole operation. Is it an incompetent Secretary who can't manage to remove an obvious criminal and liar—who happens to be playing the politicians like a fiddle—or is it due to some behind-the-scenes interests and Mamic's connections to a much wider circle of people than we know, ask God. There is a reason.

Over the last year, we've seen various investigations, like the ones run by Index, where they managed to sift through hundreds of people, dozens of universities, files, accounts, perpetrators, and witnesses in record time. They didn't just look into it; everything went through the courts and people were actually convicted.
So you have to wonder: if they could resolve hundreds of cases and lock people up in less than a year, why can't they apply that same logic to one damn person? It’s obvious that Mamic is in league with enough people to influence even someone like Johnson.
Austin Collins6 Austin Collins6 Newcomer
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#394 ·
Jesse Campbell, last summer you were swearing he’d be gone by the end of August, then by October, then by New Year's. Well, it's mid-March now. You keep repeating that he'll leave. Of course he'll leave—eventually everyone dies, that's a certainty.

Are you actually trying to convince us that Johnson is going to kick him out of Dinamo or ban him from sports entirely? Mamic is out there calling him a rat and insulting him in the news lately. In what kind of damn country does that happen? It's obvious he isn't afraid; he's just mocking him...

And this pathetic inspection business... the best they'll manage is maybe forcing Dinamo to tweak a few minor details in their bylaws, or slapping them with a $10 $0.00 fine for whatever reason. We all know who Zdravko Mamic is and the level of influence he holds over the courts, politics, and the police. Do you honestly think some lowly sports inspectors are going to oust Mamic from Dinamo? 😂 There is far too much money at stake here. You're incredibly naive, probably from watching too many movies where one honest guy takes down the mafia running the whole city (thank God there are movies like that 🙂).

It's clear to most people that this fight is just tilting at windmills. That’s exactly why fans are slowly trickling back to the stands. Eventually, people will just accept things as they are and return to the old, easier way: go to the game, grab a drink, blow off some steam, shout "screw Split, Dinamo are champions," and call it a day. Mark my words.
Casey Gomez3 Casey Gomez3 Newcomer
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#395 ·
Jacob Newman74 said:Look, here's the deal: the Department has to strip an outstanding football club president out of the sports world—someone who breaks the law in several ways, totally "transparently." By getting rid of him, they gain massive points with the working class, so they definitely have every incentive to pull the trigger. If things are actually playing out this way—and they are—why is Johnson and the entire political establishment waiting a year and a half just to remove one guy from the scene? This man is clearly breaking the law right in front of everyone in America, yet nobody takes actual concrete action. It’s all just talk, talk, talk.

Someone, for whatever reason, is stalling the whole operation. Is it an incompetent Secretary who can't manage to kick a blatant criminal and liar out of sports—especially one who toys with politicians and leads them by the nose—or is there some backroom interest at play? Maybe Mamic is connected to a much wider circle of people than we know, God only knows. There's a reason for this.

Over the last year, we've seen various crackdowns, like the Index investigations, where they processed hundreds of people in record time—dozens of universities, files, accounts, perpetrators, witnesses... everything was scrutinized. Not just looked at, but actually went through the courts and resulted in convictions.
So you have to wonder: if they could resolve hundreds of cases and lock people up in less than a year, why can't they apply that same logic to one damn individual? It's obvious Mamic is in league with enough people to influence even Johnson.


The Index thing is just a distraction. All those professors who were taking money before the investigation started are still taking it now. Completely unchecked.
ironpanther5 ironpanther5 Active Member
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#396 ·
Casey Gomez3 said:The whole Index exposé is nothing more than a smoke and mirrors show. All those professors who were pocketing cash before the investigation started are still doing it today. They haven't been reined in one bit.

I’d say things have actually gotten a lot tougher for students since that whole thing went down. It’s become much harder to pass exams, even when you actually know your stuff—and I'm talking specifically about the College of Engineering.
Calling it "smoke and mirrors" feels a bit off to me, mostly because a huge chunk of the university just stayed completely silent about it.
Alex Barrett3 Alex Barrett3 Newcomer
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#397 ·
Jacob Newman74 said:Look, here’s the deal: the Department has to kick an elite club president out of the sports world—someone who is basically breaking every rule in the book in a way that’s totally "transparent." Removing him would be a huge win for the administration with the general public, and honestly, it’s right in their interest to pull the trigger. If that’s how things stand—and they definitely do—why is Johnson, or the whole political machine, waiting a year and a half just to get one guy out of the game? This dude is clearly violating the law right in front of everyone in America, yet nobody is actually doing anything concrete. It’s all just talk, talk, talk.

Someone, for whatever reason, is blocking the whole operation. I guess you have to wonder if it’s just an incompetent minister who can’t handle removing an obvious criminal and liar—someone who’s basically playing the politicians like a fiddle—or if there are deeper interests at play. Maybe Mamic is connected to a much wider circle of people than we realize, ask God. There’s gotta be a reason.

Over the last year, we’ve seen plenty of action, like those Index investigations where they processed hundreds of people in record time. We're talking dozens of colleges, files, bank accounts, culprits, witnesses—they literally combed through everything. And it wasn't just looking; things went to court and people actually got convicted.
So, you really have to ask yourself: if they could wrap up hundreds of cases and lock people up in less than a year, why can't they do the same to this one guy? It seems pretty obvious that Mamic is in league with enough people to influence even someone like Johnson.

You hit on a lot of true points there, though maybe the biggest "protector" has just lost his grip. Everyone knows what Mamic is up to, but then again, everyone knew what Al Capone was doing too. On the flip side, politics is a fickle thing; everything waits for the perfect (election) moment. Timing is everything, I guess.

Mamic has been tolerated for about a decade, but at least they've finally started working on taking him down. Screw waiting an extra year or two if it means doing it right, rather than letting him slip away and laugh from the Bahamas. I’m hopeful his downfall will be quick and decisive when it happens, and I really think it'll be soon.

He isn't just acting out for no reason; it's a pure defense mechanism. The beast knows the dogs are at his heels, so he’s doing everything to dodge them. He plays his lowest cards (Nora), then moves to the political cards (Republican circles), and even pulls out the heavy artillery—like using that "Ukrainian twin brother" type to lecture the Government that's hunting him. In his eyes, it’s not the "hooligans" that are the issue, but rather attacking an incompetent Government that’s trying to stand up to Mamic and his crew.

I tend to be an optimist. Just a few years ago, Mamic was seen in most households as a successful American businessman (okay, maybe Americans aren't the smartest, but most people who don't follow sports saw him as a winner). He was close to power, and don't even get me started on how great the media used to write about him. Now, it’s the exact opposite. Most people see exactly what ZM and the politicians are about, and they're calling them out publicly. Even some news outlets have flipped the script. Things are moving (too) slowly, but if that's the price to pay to "drain the swamp" and crush the biggest leech, then so be it...
vividotter40 vividotter40 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#398 ·
The "Index" investigation is a joke 🙂

It’s always easiest to go after some poor professors and students. What about Sanader? Is it even possible that he's the only one facing consequences while the entire Republican Party—which, miraculously, seems to have no idea anything about theft—just walks free? People, take a look around. They are just blinding us with these wannabe stings that fade into obscurity almost immediately... 🙂

It's hard to kill an octopus that has spread its tentacles into every single crack of this country; it's difficult... All they'll do is send in new ones to fill those same holes. This is the damn North America, not Germany...
Austin Chase2 Austin Chase2 Newcomer
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#399 ·
vividotter40 said:I guess this whole "Index" thing is just a mess 🙂

It seems like it's always easiest to go after some poor professors or students. I mean, look at what happened with Sanader. It’s hard to wrap my head around how he’s the only one facing consequences while the rest of the Republican Party—who, somehow, apparently know nothing about embezzlement—just keeps walking free. People really should take a second look. I feel like they're just trying to distract us with these flashy little crusades that end up being forgotten pretty quickly... 🙂

It’s probably just impossible to kill an octopus that has its tentacles spread out through every single corner of the country, I guess... You'll just keep seeing new ones coming along to fill those empty spots. This is just how things work here in the States, it isn't like Germany...

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Ivo Sanader, Mladen Barisic, Ratko Macek, Branka Pavosevic, Nevenka Jurak, Petar Cobankovic, Damir Polancec, and I honestly can't think of everyone else right now
vividotter40 vividotter40 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#400 ·
So, what—are Kosorica and Karamarko, who are basically the gold standard for terrible moral character, also completely clueless? Look, there are plenty of big fish involved here, and they'll have to prosecute some of them—that much is obvious... but let's be real, we all know how things work in the States. 🙂

I mean, you get what I'm saying, right? It isn't enough to just pluck "a few people" from the top; they need to clear out the entire deck and start over. It’s just like when Mamic goes down—you have to sweep away everyone who was even remotely in his orbit, whether they were in the boardroom, the management, or involved in smuggling and god knows what else...

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