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Suggestion for a new PDF format

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Participants Henry Hernandez7Sophia Thomas7Alex Cookrustydrifter10loneraven25Anthony Jackson2coppersailor28William Bennett53shadowpilot8hollowtrucker77mellowlynx68northernpilot2
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active MemberOP
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#1 ·
Dear administration,

I’ve been thinking we might need a new sub-forum where the vibe is a little more relaxed—somewhere we can lean into the trolling just a bit more than what’s currently allowed without everyone losing their minds.

Picture this: you’re having a heated debate about politics, and when someone decides to hit back with that specific brand of "polite" sarcasm we all know and love, they just drop it in the "troll thread."

Obviously, there’d still be some ground rules to keep things from getting totally out of hand, mostly so people don't get banned for straight-up personal attacks.

Honestly, I think having a dedicated space like this would actually lead to way fewer bans and moderation headaches in the long run.

Hopefully, you guys dig the idea and we can make something happen.

Best,
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
183 messages
joined Aug 2015
#2 ·
If I’m following your logic correctly, I stay polite when I’m posting on one thread—but then I decide to be a jerk, jump over to a different thread, and start trolling there instead?
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active MemberOP
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#3 ·
Matthew Anderson said:If I’m following you correctly, you're saying if I play nice on one thread, I’m fine, but the second I decide to be a jerk, I’m supposed to just start a whole new topic on this troll forum to keep being a nuisance?

Pretty much, though there's a slight nuance—you aren't starting a brand new thread, you're just replying directly to a post with your own snarky take.
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
183 messages
joined Aug 2015
#4 ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:It’s pretty much the same thing—you aren't starting a whole new thread, just replying to the quoted post with your own take.

And you're just leaving a link on the main thread?

Would that PDF include trolling attempts from every single subforum, or are we just talking about specific ones?
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active MemberOP
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#5 ·
Matthew Anderson said:So you're just gonna drop the link in the main thread?

Would that PDF cover trolling attempts from every single subforum, or are we just picking out a few select ones?

Could be from all of them, why not?

Anyway, feel free to throw out whatever suggestions you guys have.
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
183 messages
joined Aug 2015
#6 ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:Why not? Anyone can chime in!

Seriously though, feel free to throw out whatever suggestions you've got.

How is anyone supposed to tell if a post was actually moved over to the new PDF?
Alex Cook Alex Cook Active Member
157 messages
joined May 2009
#7 ·
Now that’s actually a killer idea!
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active MemberOP
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#8 ·
Matthew Anderson said:How is anyone supposed to tell if a post was moved over to a new PDF?

Just drop a link, I guess. If they want to steer the conversation that way. Or they don't have to bother at all if the author isn't feeling it—they can just vent their frustrations 'from the heart' instead.
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active MemberOP
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#9 ·
Alex Cook said:That’s a killer idea.

Just hoping this isn't all for show. 🙂
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#10 ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:Can you just drop a link?

But wouldn't that just be considered spamming on that other original thread? If they do that, the user is basically asking for a warning. And honestly, if that gets them banned and someone here tries to jump in to help, there won't even be anyone left to talk to!
loneraven25 loneraven25 Active Member
77 messages
joined Jul 2013
#11 ·
I was thinking, maybe we should look into making this a stickied thread? It feels like it could really serve the community if we kept it pinned at the top. Is there anything more exhausting than dealing with a total troll trying to hide behind a PDF? Honestly, I can't decide if it's just pure laziness or some kind of weirdly specific power trip when people drop a massive file like that instead of actually typing out a coherent thought. Are we really at the point where we need a digital document just to facilitate basic internet arguments? It’s such a transparent move—hide behind a wall of text, hope nobody bothers to download it, and then act like you’ve dropped some undeniable truth bomb. Does anyone actually find this effective, or is it just a way to avoid being held accountable for the nonsense they're spewing? It's honestly just tedious.,
"Is there actually a training academy out there specifically designed for amateur trolls, or am I just dreaming? Because honestly, looking at some of the nonsense floating around online lately, you’d think there was a mandatory orientation course and a starter kit being handed out to every basement-dweller with an internet connection. It feels like people are just stumbling into being obnoxious without even putting in the effort to be truly convincing. Don't they realize that if you're going to dedicate your life to being a nuisance, you should at least graduate from the school of basic logic first?Now, we really need to sit down and hammer out some binding Rules of Conduct. It’s high time we established a formal set of guidelines that everyone actually has to follow, don't you think?
They’re going to be wiping those records clean and slapping sanctions on anyone caught breaking the rules.
Who on earth has managed to stay on this board forever without ever catching a single ban for trolling?
Honestly, shouldn't we be looking at doubling the fines for those kinds of violations? If someone’s out there breaking the rules like that, a standard ticket just feels like a slap on the wrist, doesn't it? We need to be talking about making the penalty twice the actual nominal amount on the citation, just to ensure people actually take these regulations seriously.
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Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active MemberOP
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#12 ·
rustydrifter10 said:Wouldn't that just end up being spam on the other original thread? The user would be risking a warning, and if that leads to a ban and someone here replies to them, they wouldn't even be able to see the response.

Honestly, looking at it now, we probably need to tweak how this works.
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#13 ·
Alex Cook said:Brilliant idea!

I'm with him on this one.

Maybe this finally fixes the mess on this forum—if that one nuisance actually likes the change, we might finally get some peace.
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active MemberOP
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#14 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:I'm with this guy

honestly, I think this might finally fix all the drama on this board. Plus, I bet even that one resident nuisance will dig it, so we won't have to deal with his constant headache anymore

And what's a "nuisance" exactly...?
Alex Cook Alex Cook Active Member
157 messages
joined May 2009
#15 ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:I'm really hoping this isn't just some act... 🙂

Would I ever lie to you, sweetheart?
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
156 messages
joined Mar 2012
#16 ·
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Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active MemberOP
128 messages
joined Apr 2014
#17 ·
Alex Cook said:Would I ever lie to you, darling?

I guess if you're a moderator, lying isn't really part of the job description.🙂
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#18 ·
It would be reminiscent of those old Hollywood movies: someone insults you inside a restaurant, and then you challenge them to settle the score out on the sidewalk. This approach offers several advantages:
1. Inside the establishment (in a civilized discussion thread), there are no physical altercations; everything remains peaceful because the space is protected as a sanctuary for decent discourse.
2. Those who have a particular urge for conflict can step outside to "fight," allowing everyone to get what they came for.
3. If someone is challenged to settle things outside (meaning, away from the main topic), and they fail to show up, they suffer a minor blow to their ego rather than being subjected to a barrage of trolling.
And everyone wins...
Have I interpreted the concept correctly?
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#19 ·
William Bennett53 said:It’s basically like those old Hollywood movies where someone insults you at a diner and you challenge them to a showdown out in the alleyway to settle things once and for all. If we did it that way, we'd actually get a few benefits:
1. The dining room (our main discussion thread) stays peaceful because there aren't any brawls happening right at the table; it remains a protected sanctuary for civilized conversation,
2. The folks who have a real itch for conflict can just head outside to "square off," so everyone gets exactly what they're looking for,
3. And if someone gets challenged to a duel out back (meaning, away from the main topic) and they decide to chicken out, they just take a little hit to their pride instead of getting pummeled by trolls online.
Everyone wins...
Did I capture the essence of the idea correctly?


If that's what you mean, then honestly, it sounds a lot like a formal debate, and I think we already have a dedicated PDF format for handling stuff like that. 😬
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#20 ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:And what about Hrcak...?


🤷

Isn't the whole point of trolling just being a well-packaged provocation—or straight-up an insult to the person you're talking to? You can't really troll someone if they already know you're doing it. 🤔

There are plenty of technical hurdles in this proposal.

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