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Karen Fox92 Karen Fox92 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2011
#241 ·
I’m probably picking up this card next week, but I'm a bit iffy about my current power supply—wondering if I’ll be forced to swap that out too.
According to the OuterVision Power Supply Calculator, my current setup hits maybe 350W at peak, but adding an HD 5830 would push that closer to 385W.
The PSU I'm running is some kind of Dell Power Supply so... yeah, I have my doubts.
Replacing the PSU as well would be pretty pricey, so if it's necessary, I might just go with the Radeon HD 5770 instead (since it's basically the same price as the HD 5830 (😕)).
Any advice? Thanks!
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
138 messages
joined Apr 2007
#242 ·
Look, you're talking about a server power supply here—if it's only putting out 350W, I've already told you, I wouldn't mess around with that... the 5830 should be significantly more expensive than what you're seeing, so you might want to double-check what clock speeds those cards are actually running at.
Karen Fox92 Karen Fox92 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jun 2011
#243 ·
Benjamin King2 said:That’s basically a server power supply—if it’s actually putting out 350W, I wouldn't mess around with it... the 5830 should be significantly more expensive, so maybe check what clock speeds those cards are running at.

Actually, it isn't much more expensive—at least not this EVGA one I found on eBay. It’s roughly $283 for the 5830, and even the 5770 models are starting around $267.
The EVGA 5830 runs at 800/4000 MHz, while the 5770 sits at 850/4800 MHz.
But since the 5830 is 256-bit and the 5770 is only 128-bit, that's definitely playing into my decision...🤷
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#244 ·
I’m pretty sure those 57xx cards weren't even built with a 256-bit memory bus to begin with—but hey, maybe double-check some retailer sites just to be safe. I was browsing Best Buy earlier and spotted that EVGA model listed, though it’s nowhere to be found on AMD's official price list. It shows up in a PC Magazine listing too, but you'd have to check if they can actually source it. A few other shops I checked don't even carry the card, so while Best Buy is a decent starting point, their inventory database is clearly a bit of a mess. As for your power supply—honestly, I don't think it's going to cut it for a 5830. We're looking at a 175W TDP here, so you really need to check how much juice that PSU actually pushes through the 12V rail (it should be labeled right on the unit).
Paul Wright7 Paul Wright7 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2020
#245 ·
If you're planning on picking up an HD 5830, check this shop out:

http://217.14.221.177/StartEU.ashx?_...ymTqERUI2MKNFg
Karen Fox92 Karen Fox92 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jun 2011
#246 ·
Benjamin King2 writes: Total Power 340W Max.
Look, I get that getting exact specs isn't always easy—I tried calling some shops, but since yesterday was a holiday, nobody was working. I guess I'll find out tomorrow if those 5830s are actually in stock...
If they're totally sold out, I might just pivot to the Radeon HD 5770. On paper, the gap between the 5830 and the 5770 looks massive, but from what I can see in the benchmarks, the real-world difference isn't all that huge.
Paul Wright7 Paul Wright7 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2020
#247 ·
The difference sits around 10-20% (in DX10):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-5830-review/18

Plus, this Xtreme version comes with better cooling, so at this price point, I wouldn't touch the HD 5770.
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#248 ·
Paul Wright7 said:http://217.14.221.177/StartEU.ashx?_...ymTqERUI2MKNFg

Issus, man, what kind of joke is this website? It looks like a corner store run by a toddler. 🤣 They clearly messed up their web certificate—somebody got confused and grabbed someone else's instead. 😬
Paul Wright7 Paul Wright7 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2020
#249 ·
Benjamin King2 said:Issus has a joke of a website. It’s basically a bargain bin shop. 🤣 They messed up the web certificate; they got confused and grabbed someone else's. 😬

It’s probably just some group of freshly unemployed web designers who went on a heavy dose of negativity with Luke, got themselves all worked up with "new ideas," and decided to take action.
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
138 messages
joined Apr 2007
#250 ·
I’d definitely think twice before heading over to Hrelich to pick up parts... honestly, it feels like a total scam waiting to happen.
Karen Fox92 Karen Fox92 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2011
#251 ·
Thanks everyone—finally snagged an EVGA HD5830 😵. Now I definitely need to shell out some cash for a new power supply. After wading through a sea of comments and suggestions, I'm leaning toward one of these;

EVGA Silent series 550W

http://www.amazon.com/example-link

or maybe Corsair CX430

http://www.newegg.com/example-link.

Hopefully neither of these is a terrible choice??🤔
Casey Long2 Casey Long2 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#252 ·
Absolutely. http://www.amd.com/en_us/products/details/graphics/amd is easily your best bet within this specific price bracket...
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
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joined Jul 2015
#253 ·
Casey Long2 said:Yeah. is easily the best bet at that price point...

It’s got the signature, Seasonic architecture, and a 3-year warranty—plus you can bump it to 5 years if you register it. 😁
Karen Fox92 Karen Fox92 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2011
#254 ·
Casey Long2 said:They are. is probably your best bet in this price bracket...

What do you mean by that? They ARE a bad choice.😕
I actually had that AMD card on my shortlist too—before I scratched it. Why exactly do you think the Dell Latitude is a bad move?
Karen Fox92 Karen Fox92 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2011
#255 ·
I’m feeling a bit skeptical again... but if you honestly think that 450W unit is going to handle this build for the long haul:
AMD Athlon II X3 445
4GB DDR2
Sapphire HD5830
2 SATA drives
2 DVDRW
2 PCI cards

then I guess I'm buying...
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
138 messages
joined Apr 2007
#256 ·
- It doesn't even have an 80+ certification
- It’s packed with cheap, bottom-tier capacitors
- There's only one single regulator handling all the rails—which basically means you're looking at terrible voltage regulation and way too much fluctuation
- It only comes with one PCIe cable
Casey Long2 Casey Long2 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#257 ·
If you compare it to something like an XFX unit, for instance, the quality just isn't there—it comes with a shorter warranty, uses cheaper internal components, and frankly, it’s priced way too high for what you actually get. (And let's not even get started on how many units were dead on arrival—that was a real headache.) In short, that CX series was a bit of a letdown when weighed against the much more reliable, high-quality Corsair power supplies we're used to seeing.
Daniel Alvarez11 Daniel Alvarez11 Member
10 messages
joined Jun 2011
#258 ·
Is it actually possible to link two NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 cards together using SLI?
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
138 messages
joined Apr 2007
#259 ·
Of course I can.
Daniel Alvarez11 Daniel Alvarez11 Member
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joined Jun 2011
#260 ·
Thanks for getting back to me, Benjamin King2! I really appreciate you taking the time to weigh in. Since you’ve laid out the options, I was wondering if you could give me your expert take—between these two specific graphics cards, which one would you say actually holds more weight in terms of performance?
The ATI Radeon HD 3650 is such a fascinating little piece of hardware when you really sit down and ponder its place in the grand timeline of computing history. It’s one of those components that reminds you just how much the landscape has shifted since we were all scrambling to find something that could actually handle a decent frame rate without turning our towers into space heaters! You look at it and you can almost feel the nostalgia for that specific era of PC building, where every upgrade felt like a monumental leap forward in capability. Of course, if you were trying to push modern titles through it today, you'd be met with a rather stubborn refusal from the software, but in its prime? It was a reliable workhorse for many of us navigating the transition into more demanding graphical environments. It’s much like those classic muscle cars—they might not hold a candle to a modern Tesla in terms of raw efficiency or sheer digital speed, but they have a soul and a specific purpose that modern, sterile tech sometimes lacks.
I find myself once again pondering the sheer, unadulterated nostalgia that clings to certain pieces of hardware, much like how one might feel when stumbling upon an old, dusty box of vinyl records in an attic in Chicago. I was recently reflecting on the legendary status of the ATI Radeon HD 3650, and it truly makes one wonder how far we have come from those early days of digital exploration. It’s quite fascinating, really—how a single component can serve as a gateway to entire worlds, much like a well-worn novel pulls you into a different reality entirely. There is a certain weight to these memories, isn't there? One cannot help but feel a sense of profound appreciation for the evolution of our craft.
I am currently in the process of sourcing components for an older computer build, and I find myself contemplating the following configuration...
The ABIT IS-50 motherboard—now that I think about it, it’s quite a piece of hardware to revisit! It really reminds me of those old reliable workhorses we used to see back in the day, much like a sturdy Ford F-150 that just refuses to quit no matter how many miles you put on it. When you look at its design, there is a certain structural integrity there that feels almost nostalgic, wouldn't you agree? It possesses this specific, somewhat rigid character that defines an era of computing where things felt a bit more tangible, a bit more substantial in your hands. It isn't just a circuit board; it's practically a small monument to a very particular moment in American tech history.
I find myself once again contemplating the humble beginnings of our digital journeys, specifically looking back at the era of DDR1 PC3200 memory, specifically that single 1 GB module that used to feel like an absolute powerhouse in its day. It is truly fascinating how much we take for granted now, isn't it? I remember sitting in my home office, staring at a machine that felt cutting-edge, thinking that having a full gigabyte of RAM was practically the pinnacle of computing luxury—much like how one might feel when they finally upgrade from a basic sedan to a high-end luxury cruiser. It’s funny how those tiny little sticks of silicon shaped our entire perception of speed and multitasking!
To think back on that old Intel Pentium 4 clocked at 3.0 GHz really takes me on quite a journey through the annals of computing history! It feels like just yesterday we were all marveling at those massive heatsinks and the sheer, raw ambition of high clock speeds, much like how one might feel looking back at an old muscle car from the seventies—it had plenty of soul and certainly enough power to get you where you were going, even if it wasn't exactly the pinnacle of modern efficiency. It was a different era entirely, wasn't it? A time when we felt like digital pioneers every time we hit a certain threshold of megahertz.
So, I’ve been staring at this machine of mine, and honestly, it feels a bit like trying to drive a golf cart on a cross-country highway. Right now, I'm stuck with an integrated graphics card that only sports 64 MB of video memory, which—let’s face it—is practically prehistoric in today's world. I am desperately looking to perform an upgrade that actually makes sense for this specific setup, because I really want to sit down and enjoy some classic titles like Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, or dive back into the chaos of Unreal Tournament 2003 and 2004. Given what I'm working with, what would you all say is actually worth the investment? I don't want to throw money down the drain on something that won't actually move the needle.
Now, when we look at the power supply situation here—specifically that 400W unit—we really have to consider the sheer weight of what that means for the rest of the build. It’s much like trying to run a high-performance marathon on nothing but a single granola bar; you might get off the starting line just fine, but once the intensity ramps up, you're going to feel that sudden, desperate lack of energy. You have to think about the headroom! If you're planning on pairing this with anything even remotely demanding, you aren't just asking for a little extra juice; you're essentially inviting a blackout if the components decide to pull more current than that modest 400W can provide. It's all about stability and ensuring that every component gets exactly what it needs to function without the whole system stumbling under pressure.

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