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northernviper14 northernviper14 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2013
#361 ·
So, I have an older computer setup, and I am considering picking up a new graphics card. My current motherboard is an ASUS P4S800, paired with an Intel Pentium 4 2.8 processor and about 1.5 GB of DDR1 RAM. Right now, I am running an ATI Radeon a9550, but I would like to upgrade; however, I am limited to an AGP interface rather than PCI Express. Given these specific components, I suppose I was wondering if anyone could suggest which card might be a suitable choice for this configuration?
Michael Reed72 Michael Reed72 Member
31 messages
joined May 2020
#362 ·
Like, maybe 3650 or even a beefier 4650, though honestly, it’s probably not worth dropping cash on AGP cards these days...
Jeffrey Hill5 Jeffrey Hill5 Member
25 messages
joined Aug 2009
#363 ·
If you're already hunting down an AGP card, just go with NVIDIA—ATI’s drivers for AGP are notoriously bad. You'll see plenty of people complaining about screen blackouts or games just freezing up entirely. I can tell you from experience—I dealt with those exact same issues on my 3650 and couldn't fix them to save my life.
coastaltiger2 coastaltiger2 Active Member
50 messages
joined Nov 2010
#364 ·
Picked up a pre-built rig about a year ago during a Konikom Christmas sale.. Man, this thing was loud right out of the box! It didn't bug me too much at first, but now it's seriously starting to get on my nerves since I had to move it from the floor up onto my desk.... At night, once I shut it down, man, RELIEF... absolute SILENCE.... So I popped the case open (first time ever!) and stopped the CPU fan with my finger, then the GPU fan, and yep—it's definitely the graphics card fan making all that noise... My current card is this:
http://www1.sapphiretech.com/id/prod...gpid=242&grp=3It says right on it: Sapphire HD 3870
So, some "experts" told me the best move is just to swap the card, and they suggested this one: Just a heads up, the PC is just as noisy today as the very first day I turned it on, so it's not like it's broken or covered in dust...
Is it actually smart to make that switch? Is the new one (HD 4670) any stronger than my HG 3870?? And will the 4670 handle COD 1 through 5 okay? Anyone got a smart fix for my noise problem?? PLZ... help a guy out.... I'd really love to stick with a Sapphire ATI Radeon card because I use it constantly for movies (hooked it up to an HDMI LCD) and we're already used to how it works (even my wife knows the drill!), so I'd love to stay with that software interface... Any tips? Advice? Help?? One more thing: I can't go over $233 for the new card...
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
311 messages
joined Oct 2015
#365 ·
The Sapphire HD 3870 is hands down the best ATI card I've ever put through its paces. It actually holds its own against the 8800GTS 640MB, though in my book, that card still misses the mark of being truly elite. This card did extremely well in 3DMark06, consistently beating the 8800GTS across every resolution—and the gap only widened as the resolution climbed. Honestly, I haven't seen a GPU perform this well at high resolutions before. In the 1680 x1050 setting, the Sapphire HD 3870 never dipped below 46 FPS during gaming tests. What really surprised me was the thermals; it sat at a cool 48 Celsius while idling and only hit 60 Celsius under 100% load. Even when pushed to the limit, I couldn't hear the HD 3870 over my CPU cooler. I did notice that right when I power up the PC, the card's fan spins like crazy for about a second, making a loud noise. It didn't bother me one bit, though. A moderator from The Sapphire forums told us it’s totally normal—just a quick Power-On Self-Test. Taking the card apart was a breeze, and swapping in my own thermal paste was even easier. That’s a huge plus if you're planning on slapping an aftermarket cooler on it. Usually, installing the display drivers for ATI has been a headache for me, but I didn't run into a single hiccup with this one. Plus, The Catalyst Control Center remains a solid tool for tweaking performance. With HDMI, DirectX 10, and HD support, this card covers all the bases, and at a $219.99 retail price, the value is insane. Definitely put this Sapphire HD 3870 on your Christmas sale wish list; it handles high resolutions like a champ and supports all the latest tech without breaking the bank.

Overclockers Club. Look, if this card is supposedly in the same league as the 8800 GTS, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to run every Call of Duty title out of the box. People keep telling me it isn't actually a loud card either—apparently, the fan only screams at 100% during the initial boot-up, but once you're actually gaming, it stays cool and the fan is barely even audible.

So, here’s what we can take away from all that:

Maybe you just got a dud that keeps pinning the fan at 100%. Try fixing that through The Catalyst Control Center or SpeedFan to get those RPMs down. Just keep an eye on your temps—use the numbers mentioned above as your baseline. If your temperatures start spiking wildly once you dial back the fan speed, let me know.

Either they shoved some refurbished card down your throat from a pile of returns where the fan's already dying and making a racket...

Look, here’s how you handle it: if the PC is still under warranty, just take it back to the shop and tell them it suddenly started making a ton of noise. Don't mention that it's been loud since day one. Just get them to swap out the GPU for you. If the warranty is expired, you've basically got two moves: either buy a new card or just fix the cooling on the one you have. Honestly, any decent cooling kit is going to cost way less than a whole new graphics card. If your current card is still performing well enough for you, upgrading the cooler is probably the smartest way to go.

If you're looking to swap out that GPU, the HD 4670 is technically an option since it’s stronger, but I wouldn't suggest it. Honestly, you should go for the HD 4830 instead. It sits right in that same price bracket—you can find it at Best Buy—and it's a significantly better card. The memory bandwidth is way higher thanks to that 256-bit bus, so you won't run into any issues running whatever games you throw at it. Plus, it runs cool and quiet. I actually picked one up for my son recently and I'm pretty happy with it. For the cash you're spending, it's easily the best bang for your buck, even if it isn't exactly top-of-the-line cutting edge stuff. I can't find anything using that search engine link. It looks like it's broken or just isn't pulling up any results.

Look, just to be safe, you should probably list out your specs first: what CPU are you running, how much RAM do you have, what kind of power supply are we talking about, and what resolution are you playing at? Before you make any final decisions, give me those details—it could totally change my recommendation.

And look, at the end of the day, you probably haven't even fixed your case airflow yet. It’d be smart to just slap a 120mm intake fan in the front and a 120mm exhaust in the back. That’ll seriously help the airflow and stabilize your temps if they actually are an issue—though I don't think they are right now. If you've got the rig sitting out on the desk with the side panel open, the fans should have already dialed back their RPMs. But hey, just something to keep in mind for later...
coastaltiger2 coastaltiger2 Active Member
50 messages
joined Nov 2010
#366 ·
Warranty's gone... it's basically junk now... honestly, I don't know the first thing about all this tech stuff (like how the CPU, motherboard, and GPU actually play nice together). Looks like my only move is to drag this thing to a repair shop and just give them a straight order: I don't want to hear any weird noises when it boots up, and I want to keep the performance right where it is at $333... what do you think?? You know any solid repair shops over in Indianapolis??? 😁
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
311 messages
joined Oct 2015
#367 ·
Getting it fixed by a shop is easy enough... though if you’ve got a buddy who knows his way around hardware, it’ll be way cheaper than paying a pro... you just have a bad approach here. 🙂 You're leaving way too much room for error when picking a technician. 🙂🙂🙂🙂 Just lay it all out clearly for me... I need to know your CPU, how much RAM you're running, what kind of power supply (brand included) and its wattage, plus what resolution you actually play at... also, does your case have any extra fans, and is your current GPU doing the job for you, noise aside?

Once we've nailed down those specs, then you head into a shop and ask: "How much to upgrade X, Y, and Z?" Use that to hunt for a mechanic who isn't going to rip you off. If you walk in there saying you've got a thousand bucks to spend, just be ready to walk out with a thousand-dollar bill. 😂
coastaltiger2 coastaltiger2 Active Member
50 messages
joined Nov 2010
#368 ·
Hey, I'm stuck at work right now so I can't dig up those specs just yet... I'll shoot everything over to you as soon as I get home... probably around 8:00 or 9:00 PM... and if my wife isn't riding my back too much, maybe even sooner! :-)
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
311 messages
joined Oct 2015
#369 ·
Alright... 👍
coastaltiger2 coastaltiger2 Active Member
50 messages
joined Nov 2010
#370 ·
I found some analysis software online... SiSoftware Sandra.... will the data I pull from that be enough for you???? yeah?? ... I ran it on my work computer here and it spits out pretty much everything about the rig except for the power supply.... so I'll just have to read those specs directly from the unit itself.
Thomas Martin4 Thomas Martin4 Member
23 messages
joined Jun 2009
#371 ·
And then there’s Mount Everest...
Sarah Turner98 Sarah Turner98 Member
15 messages
joined Jul 2010
#372 ·
Thomas Martin4 said:And then there's Everest...

Plus, there's dxdiag, which doesn't even need an install 🙂 I mean, it's probably already up there 😁
coastaltiger2 coastaltiger2 Active Member
50 messages
joined Nov 2010
#373 ·
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 dual core 5000+ with MMX3DNow (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2GB RAM
PSU: It just says ATX 500W P4 on the label (no other details besides some input/output chart)
So, about that question regarding what resolution I play at... it's kind of hard to say. Like with Call of Duty 4, I didn't mess with any settings at all. Just launched the game and went for it! Didn't touch a single resolution setting.
This graphics card totally does the job for me... (aside from being super noisy)
I just stopped the fans on both my CPU and the GPU at once... man, now THAT is what I'm talking about! That silence is sweet. It would be awesome to grab a new CPU cooler soon too.
Other than the fan inside the power supply, I don't have any other extra fans in the rig.
Here...
Help me out!
😉😉🙏
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2012
#374 ·
The 3870 is still a decent enough card; it'll pair fine with that processor and should satisfy you. You could grab an aftermarket cooler for the GPU and something similar for the CPU, then everything might actually stay quiet. 🙂 It’ll probably run you around $250-$100 all told:

For the CPU, I guess aim for something with a larger fan—92mm or bigger—to keep the noise down. Or maybe go totally passive. As for the GPU... well, depends on your budget. I'm running a Zalman VF900 on my Sapphire HD 3870, and it gets audible when you crank it up, though it's more air rushing than actual humming. It comes with a potentiometer, so you can adjust it yourself if needed.
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
311 messages
joined Oct 2015
#375 ·
Look, Green hit the nail on the head... I'm totally with him on this. Just head over to Best Buy and ask them how much they'd charge to install: and Both of those would fit your current setup perfectly. They should have them in stock, and since they aren't exactly slammed right now, you could probably get them installed in a day or two.

Anyway, you should know your monitor size—whether it's 19", 20", 22", etc. As for resolution, just check your display properties or your GPU settings; it'll show something like 1024x768, 1600x900, or 1680x1050.
Regarding the power supply, honestly, if you aren't changing anything else, it doesn't really matter. But if you want to be sure, check the spec sheet to see if there's one +12V rail or two (like +12V1 and +12V2) and look at the amperage listed under each... specifically how many watts it puts out on those +12V rails.

But again, the PSU isn't the issue here. Just swap out the coolers on the GPU and the CPU and the whole thing will be silent.🙂
coastaltiger2 coastaltiger2 Active Member
50 messages
joined Nov 2010
#376 ·
🙏🙏 Thanks so much, guys... if this actually works, drinks are on me! I got a similar suggestion once before, but they told me those fans were at least $400 $167... while these ones you're suggesting are basically half that price. How does that even work??? Honestly, I don't mind dropping up to $500 or $600 total for both—don't hold back on my account. Will these last two suggestions really be quiet enough?
coastaltiger2 coastaltiger2 Active Member
50 messages
joined Nov 2010
#377 ·
Man, I had no clue there were even any links in Indianapolis...
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
311 messages
joined Oct 2015
#378 ·
Those coolers are top-tier, so don't even sweat it... honestly, they're probably the only decent thing left in Indianapolis, or anywhere else in this part of the Midwest, once you head west from the main drag towards the outskirts...
coastaltiger2 coastaltiger2 Active Member
50 messages
joined Nov 2010
#379 ·
I saw... they even have a map right there on their site. You think they actually have guys on staff who can handle the install too?
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
311 messages
joined Oct 2015
#380 ·
I'm sure they have some... from what I've seen, the guys there are solid and actually know their stuff, though it wouldn't surprise me if they charge a premium just to drive out to Chicago for every little screw-up. 🙂

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