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Which PSU should I buy?

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James Castillo8 James Castillo8 Member
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joined Dec 2013
#181 ·
So they’ve got a few different models of those GTX 250 cards in stock—honestly, I have no clue which one to pick... 🙂 Most of them look like they're 256-bit, which matters to me—should handle some games a bit better than the 128-bit versions..

The rest of the build is 2GB of RAM on a single 800MHz stick—currently running an HD 2600XT, a Codegen 400W, an AMD Athlon x64 x2 5200+, a 500GB HDD, a 320GB HDD, and an MP2L-S3P motherboard
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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joined Jun 2010
#182 ·
Personally, I’d probably lean toward the HD 4770 if you're looking to save a bit of cash, but if you can swing it, go for the GTX 250...
The GTX 250 actually edges out the HD 4850 slightly, whereas the HD 4770 is pretty much on par with the HD 4850—maybe a tiny bit slower, but honestly, you probably wouldn't even notice...

EDIT: Since the CPUs here won't really be able to keep up with high-end graphics anyway, these two are likely your best bets.🙂
James Castillo8 James Castillo8 Member
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joined Dec 2013
#183 ·
So, I'm looking at the 12-month financing plan—which puts me at about $5.00 a month... Honestly, isn't the GTX 250 a decent steal if it actually outperforms the 4850 and my CPU can keep up with it?
I'm planning to throw in another 2GB of RAM later and grab a 22" monitor, too—hopefully that'll be enough to run stuff like NFS or CoD at full resolution...
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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joined Jun 2010
#184 ·
The processor is decent enough, but honestly, it won't fully utilize the card. You’d probably need at least an Athlon II X2 250/255—though since you're already on dual-core, that might not be worth the jump. If you are looking to invest more, I'd suggest going for the x4 630, and maybe even a new motherboard if your current one is just a basic AM2 setup. I mean, you can't really be 100% sure an AM3 chip will play nice with an AM2 board. 😉
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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joined Aug 2007
#185 ·
Wait, isn't there some kind of workaround with AM2+ boards or whatever?

I had no idea AM3 works on AM2.
Thomas Martin4 Thomas Martin4 Member
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joined Jun 2009
#186 ·
wiredotter14 said:Isn't there some kind of workaround involving AM2+ boards or something along those lines?

I wasn't aware that AM3 would work on an AM2 socket...

In xxx instances where you perform a BIOS update, it might be possible—though one really ought to check if a specific motherboard actually supports an AM3 processor...
quietrider9 quietrider9 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#187 ·
So, here's the deal... I'm trying to figure out if this cx400 can actually handle running a 4850CF or maybe even a 5770CF alongside an x4 630
Sarah Turner98 Sarah Turner98 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#188 ·
It can handle it..
The GPUs pull about 110-120W each, and the CPU is pulling either 95 or 125, I can't quite remember which....
So you're looking at roughly 330W total.. plus the HDD, RAM, and motherboard puts you at maybe 350-360W..
Those are my numbers for when everything is pinned at full load (not like you'll be running it at max capacity for 5 hours every single day).. so at idle, we're probably talking around 150W...
Besides, the 4850 draws a bit more than the 5770..

Yeah, it can definitely take the brunt of those heavy loads....
If you end up hating how it performs, it's easy enough to just sell the cx400 and grab a 450-500W unit (but honestly, I don't think you'll need to)..
loneraven loneraven Newcomer
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#189 ·
I’m considering picking up that Corsair unit from $133 over at ADM; it seems like everyone can't stop raving about it. I'm primarily wondering about the noise levels. The Chieftec one I've been running for the last few years—right up until it started acting up this week—was marketed as being silent, yet it produced this constant, irritating hum that becomes quite distracting whenever the room goes quiet...
Aaron Cooper41 Aaron Cooper41 Newcomer
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#190 ·
I've been looking at the power supplies over at ADM and noticed that the SeaSonic 520w has dropped in price, making it cheaper than the Corsair vx450w by about $10.

SeaSonic 520w
Corsair vx450w

I think I read somewhere that Corsair offers around 500w of actual capacity, and they're supposedly pretty good about working with you if a unit fails, kind of like how Logitech handles things.

Since I'm getting close to buying my new PC (with an x4 630 and an HD 4770), I really want to grab a beefier power supply so that in a few years—maybe four or five—I can upgrade to an x6 processor and add a second HD 4770 in my CF.

http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine According to this calculator, using a Thuban and a CF5850, I'll need about 467w.

So, the big question: should I go with Corsair or SeaSonic?
Sarah Turner98 Sarah Turner98 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#191 ·
Personally, I’d go with a Seasonic...
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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#192 ·
Bryan Evans77 said:I'd probably go with a Seasonic...

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Casey Long2 Casey Long2 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#193 ·
Seasonic. That Corsair unit is actually manufactured by Seasonic anyway—so you're looking at basically the same build quality—but having that extra bit of headroom doesn't hurt one bit. 🙂
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
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#194 ·
At ADM (as usual), some cheap Chicony power supplies have popped up: 380W/23A for $57 and 430W/27A for $70. They’ve got passive PFC, dual rails, and zero 80+ efficiency certification. Perfectly fine for budget builds. Now, why Chicony instead of names like MSI, Linkworld, Sweex, Spira, or Frontier (ignoring the actual brand names on the boxes, obviously)? Most people probably don't remember, but Chicony is a pretty old-school firm that used to churn out keyboards, mice, and even webcams back in the day—and they did a decent job. Long before Logitech was everywhere, if you were shopping in Germany (which meant having a code available on 😁), you’d look for Cherry, which was the gold standard—top-tier clicky and non-clicky boards that still hold up today. Then there was Chicony—solid enough stuff, basically the equivalent of what you'd find from Genius today (they also make peripherals all the time, but Chicony felt more accessible back then)—and then there was just a sea of generic junk under various labels you might have seen on ancient machines. Like I said, nowadays when we recommend quality peripherals (not some overpriced, "gamer" garbage 😁), we say Logitech first, then Genius, and that’s about it... 😁 , but it used to be simple: Cherry, Chicony, end of story. Don't come at me saying there are plenty of other great brands now—I know there are, but that's not the point here...

So, what's the point? Right, there's no Gilbert around. Since he's our PSU guru and the only one with enough authority to pass a death sentence on a power supply or breathe life back into one 😁, the issue with these Chicony units is this: they're cheap and don't look bad, but is it actually worth it? Since the name Chicony triggered some memories of really old tech I hadn't thought about in ages, I decided to dig around a bit. Not that I consider myself an expert, though; the final verdict will have to wait until Gilbert gets back...

Chicony still makes keyboards, I just haven't seen them much around here lately and I honestly don't know how they stack up on quality anymore. Back in the 2000s, they acquired a Taiwanese company called HIPRO, which was a long-time OEM manufacturer for big names like Apple, Dell, HP, IBM, and Microsoft. But since those power supplies weren't sold as standalone products, finding reviews online is pretty much impossible.

Even without reviews or technical specs regarding voltage stability, max wattage, heat dissipation, and whatnot, we can assume companies like that wouldn't put absolute trash in their gear. Then again, they wouldn't put high-end, expensive units in there either, because where would their profit margin be? So, it stands to reason that these Chicony (HIPRO) units are likely just right for low-end office rigs, HTPCs, or similar setups. And they come at a very interesting price point (which is the whole point 😁)... If you compare a 400W Fortron $100 to these Chiconys priced at 170 and $70, it's pretty obvious what that price gap means for a cheap office build...

These Chicony units are coming in from Germany (imported, obviously, not made there) and thanks to some cryptic labeling and the fact they were likely made specifically for the EMEA region, there are no reviews or detailed technical specs to be found—or at least, I couldn't find any. Maybe that'll change soon, and maybe Gilbert will be back soon too, so perhaps he'll know more... 😁

Until then, if you need a cheap but decent power supply for an undemanding machine (in the same ballpark as Fortron), feel free to grab a Chicony.😁

Chicony HPD4302RWB2 Power Supply, ATX 2.2, 12cm fan, 380W - $57
Chicony HPD4802RWR2 Power Supply, ATX 2.2, 12cm fan, 430W - $70

http://www.chicony.de/html/psu.html

A quick look at Chicony Power
Chicony Power Technology Co., Ltd. (previously known as HIPRO Electronics) is a heavy hitter in the power solutions industry, employing over 8,000 people worldwide. They focus heavily on power supplies for desktops and laptops, supplying big names like Apple, Dell, HP, IBM, and Microsoft.

HIPRO Electronics Co., Ltd. handles the design, manufacturing, and supply of power units for OEMs. Their lineup covers everything from desktop PC power supplies and server units to laptop adapters and gear for the telecom and data sectors. HIPRO is headquartered in Taipei, Taiwan. Following the deal announced back on June 9, 2000, HIPRO Electronics Co., Ltd. operates as a subsidiary of Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.
stormywolf39 stormywolf39 Member
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joined Dec 2008
#195 ·
HIPRO components were actually used in serious IBM workstations and small-scale servers back in the day. It’s not some cheap junk you can just toss out.
William Mitchell8 William Mitchell8 Newcomer
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#196 ·
Can anyone give me the lowdown on this power supply? I’ve been scouring the web but can't find much info on it. Does anyone know if the wattage is legit or what the build quality is actually like? Would love to hear if anyone's messed around with one of these before.
Thomas Martin4 Thomas Martin4 Member
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joined Jun 2009
#197 ·
William Mitchell8 said:Could someone perhaps elaborate on this power supply? I haven't been able to dig up much info online regarding its specifics. I suppose I'm wondering about the actual wattage, the build quality... maybe anyone here has some firsthand experience with this particular unit?

Personally, I’d probably lean toward those Silverstone units listed further down the price list rather than this one... assuming you actually have any in stock.
William Mitchell8 William Mitchell8 Newcomer
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joined May 2012
#198 ·
Thomas Martin4 said:Honestly, I’d rather just grab those Silverstone power supplies listed further down the price list instead of this one... what kind of PSU are you running exactly?

BIOSTAR A880G+
AMD Athlon II 245 2.9 GHz
2 GB DDR3 RAM
Integrated graphics

I'm planning on slapping a decent GPU in there later on.
I know I probably shouldn't be cutting corners on the power supply, but I barely scraped enough together to build this rig. If anyone thinks this setup is solid and can handle the load, I'm definitely interested.
Casey Long2 Casey Long2 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#199 ·
Look, if you just look at the raw numbers, it seems like it should be able to handle the load—but honestly, given the price tag and the fact that there’s absolutely zero documentation available on this power supply, I’m having a hard time trusting its quality...
Thomas Martin4 Thomas Martin4 Member
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joined Jun 2009
#200 ·
William Mitchell8 said:BIOSTAR A880G+
amd athlon ii 245 2.9 ghz
2 gb ram ddr3
integrated graphics

I’m thinking about adding a better GPU later on.
I realize I probably shouldn't be cutting corners on the power supply—given how tight my budget was for this whole setup—but if this unit is decent enough to handle it, I'd take it.

If you grab that Silverstone 400W, it should actually be plenty for almost any card. Since you aren't planning on dropping a high-end beast in there, 400W will be more than sufficient. Even if you decided to throw in something like a 5850 or a GTX 460, it would likely run without any issues....

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