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Benjamin Grant6 Benjamin Grant6 Member
36 messages
joined Aug 2008
#1041 ·
Angela Wright said:My dear casualrider21, your reaction is quite predictable... However, there are always two sides to every story. In our work at the Association, we find ourselves collaborating constantly with doctors who truly pour their hearts out to us. They are perpetually fighting against hospital boards, the Department of Health, and Medicare with their rigid budgets, nonsensical regulations, and endless bureaucracy... They feel backed into a corner, having their intelligence and expertise insulted, leaving them unable to practice their craft or uphold the Hippocratic Oath. They are essentially paralyzed, often facing threats of termination if they even attempt to implement change.
While there are certainly some terrible individuals among them, most are simply people like us, reaching a breaking point under the pressure...
I am sorry for everything you have endured, but this is merely the inevitable fallout from a decaying system that is rotting from the top down... Doctors and patients are just small fragments caught in that larger chaos.

unfortunately, that is the harsh reality of it all.
Sarah Perez59 Sarah Perez59 Member
11 messages
joined Sep 2009
#1042 ·
Update: she went in for a bone marrow biopsy—actually just to see if the lymphoma has spread.
She was crying and screaming from the pain—apparently there’s no anesthesia that actually touches bone pain—and after they were done, she had to lie there in the hospital for about two hours.
They did a CT scan of her upper body, too; now they need an ultrasound of her neck and heart.
I'm shaking... honestly, I'm terrified... dreading the results. It made me so happy to hear her lungs were clear, but now I'm just spiraling, panicking about what else they might find.
It kills me to see her suffering like this when the real fight hasn't even started. I have no idea what to expect from chemotherapy—what that's even going to look like. And it drives me crazy how people bombard her with useless information and lists of every possible side effect chemo might cause. Like she needs to hear that right now. Like it’s somehow helpful.
She’s strong and holding it together, but she’s obviously struggling. There's no point in her knowing every single detail—it just leads to visualization, overthinking, and all that unnecessary fear and anxiety... more stress she doesn't need.

Though, I didn't handle things perfectly yesterday either...
She tried to talk to me about how she’s feeling, what she’s scared of—talking about maybe not being able to have kids one day, or losing her hair... and I just... I don't know. I tried to tell her it wasn't worth worrying about things we don't know yet. That she needs to focus on positive outcomes. That she'll recover 100%, that she shouldn't even think about the bad stuff. And she just shut down—she basically ended the conversation right there.
And I just felt like I failed her.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#1043 ·
Sarah Perez59 said:Update: She went in for a bone marrow biopsy—actually, it was to see if the lymphoma has spread.
She was crying and screaming from the pain; there’s just no such thing as anesthesia that works when they're digging into the bone. After the procedure, she had to lie there in the hospital for about two hours.
They ran a CT scan of her upper body, and now they have to do ultrasounds on her neck and heart.
I'm shaking... I am absolutely shaking... I'm terrified of what the results will show. It made me so happy to hear her lungs were clear, but now I'm spiraling into a panic over what else might be hiding in those reports.
It kills me to see her suffering like this when the real fight hasn't even truly begun. I have no idea what to expect once chemotherapy starts. I don't know what that looks like at all. It drives me crazy how some people bombard her with useless information, lecturing her on every single side effect chemo might cause. As if she needs to hear that right now. As if it's a choice.
She’s strong and she's holding it together, but she isn't made of stone. There’s no point in her knowing every possible worst-case scenario; it just leads to visualization, which turns into fear, panic, and anxiety—basically just more unnecessary stress...

But honestly, I didn't react the right way yesterday either...
She tried to open up to me about how she feels and what she's scared of—talking about how she might not be able to have kids one day, or losing her hair, and things like that... and I just shut down a bit. I think I tried to tell her it was pointless to worry about things we don't even know yet. I told her she needed to focus only on positive outcomes, that she'll recover 100%, and that she shouldn't even let bad thoughts cross her mind. And she just... recoiled. She just cut the conversation short.
And I walked away feeling like I failed her.

Can you remind us what this is about again? Is it Hodgkins?
A friend of mine beat Hodgkins when she was 16. They told her the same thing back then—that being able to get pregnant was uncertain. Well, she's been a mom for a year and a half now.😉
You have to follow the order of operations and deal with things as they come. You can't skip steps in life. Tomorrow is a long way off, and who knows what the future holds.
nimbletrucker72 nimbletrucker72 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2009
#1044 ·
So, we’ve finally finished our fight, but honestly? It feels like we were just getting armed for the real thing. Nothing is ever going to feel the same again. I suppose the only real comfort is knowing there isn't any more pain or struggling left for that poor, weary body. ....................Sending my love and thanks to everyone! I LOVE YOU DAD, FROM YOUR LITTLE SIS
Lisa White54 Lisa White54 Active Member
213 messages
joined Jul 2008
#1045 ·
nimbletrucker72 said:So, the fight is over. We just finished gearing up for the battle, and now it's done. Everything is different now. Honestly, the only silver lining is that there isn't any more pain or struggling with that poor, worn-out body anymore. .................................sending love and thanks to everyone! I LOVE YOU DAD, FROM YOUR LITTLE SIS


Please accept my deepest condolences. I am so sorry...
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#1046 ·
Kitty, please accept my deepest condolences😢
Walter Newman6 Walter Newman6 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Aug 2009
#1047 ·
nimbletrucker72, I am so incredibly sorry for your loss!
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#1048 ·
As part of the Hotline project, Kuz is launching a dedicated phone line where citizens can get answers regarding healthcare and social security rights, specifically focusing on disability services and primary care. You'll be speaking directly with two experts from Kuz: Jane Smith, MD, a specialist in family medicine, and Jane Doe, a licensed social worker.

Hotline: 1-800-555-0199

October Duty Schedule:

Wednesday, Oct 7, 2009: Jane Smith – Primary Care topics – 11:00 AM - 1:00 PM

Thursday, Oct 15, 2009: Jane Doe – Social Security and Disability rights – 4:00 PM - 6:00 PM

Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009: Jane Smith – Primary Care topics – 11:00 AM - 1:00 PM

Thursday, Oct 29, 2009: Jane Doe – Social Security and Disability rights – 4:00 PM - 6:00 PM
Grace Stewart6 Grace Stewart6 Member
37 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1049 ·
Kitty, I am truly sorry.
James Cox6 James Cox6 Active MemberOP
150 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1050 ·
nimbletrucker72🙂 sorry, I know exactly how you feel😢
mistyridge5 mistyridge5 Member
25 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1051 ·
Susan Diaz91, nimbletrucker72... I am so incredibly sorry for your loss...

I haven't been around here much lately—and honestly, maybe I’m just being a coward about it... We've been fighting cancer within our own family for ten years now, dealing with it among our closest friends and relatives... I watch people pass away, I say my goodbyes... and then I try to cheer up those who are just starting their own fight... I don't know how you all handle it, but sometimes—just in those brief, quiet moments—I feel myself starting to falter...

We've been waiting on test results for my grandfather—he's basically been a father to me—and there was some suspicion regarding thyroid cancer, or rather, this monster we couldn't quite put a name to yet... The tests are still coming back, but for now, everything seems okay, which gives me a sense of hope and optimism...

...but occasionally... just occasionally... I find myself wondering... how much more... for how long... how much more do I have to endure, to show up and prove my strength? I know that by tomorrow, I'll be bright and positive and optimistic again, ready to take on anything... but right now... in this exact moment... I just... well, I don't even know... 🙄😢
Sarah Perez59 Sarah Perez59 Member
11 messages
joined Sep 2009
#1052 ·
So sorry for your loss.... 😢
Sarah Perez59 Sarah Perez59 Member
11 messages
joined Sep 2009
#1053 ·
She mostly just finished her first round of chemo.
She’s holding up incredibly well—really, she is. I felt fine during the visit, but once I left, I just started shaking.
Seriously, though, what that treatment does to a person... she was hooked up to that infusion for twelve hours straight...
Her face went completely gray—her lips were practically gone, they were just so pale...
And that’s only, you know, the beginning...
She headed home today, totally wiped out—can't even sit up properly anymore...

I don't know. Right now, I'm focusing on raising money for Noni juice—doing something tangible helps me feel a little more grounded.
John Martin14 John Martin14 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2009
#1054 ·
Does anyone happen to know where I might be able to find "Sutent" in injectable form?
A huge thank you in advance for any guidance.
Warm regards to everyone,
John Martin14
slyseal28 slyseal28 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2007
#1055 ·
John Martin14 said:Does anyone know where I can find Sutent in injectable form?
Thanks so much in advance.
Best regards to everyone,
John Martin14

Look, Sutent doesn't come in an injectable version—not here in the States and not anywhere else. I'm curious, who actually told you that? 😕

quoting: SUTENT is a medicine that treats cancer. It comes in 12.5-mg, 25-mg, and 50-mg capsules. You take SUTENT once per day by mouth. Do not open the capsules.
John Martin14 John Martin14 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2009
#1056 ·
slyseal28 said:Sutent isn't available as an injection, either here in the States or abroad. Who told you that? 😕

quoting: SUTENT is a medicine that treats cancer. It comes in 12.5-mg, 25-mg, and 50-mg capsules. You take SUTENT once per day by mouth. Do not open the capsules.

Thanks for getting back to me.
If it's not an injection, what form does this medication actually come in, and where can one find it?
My friend's son has been diagnosed with Stage IV melanoma, and unfortunately, it has already metastasized to his brain. The doctors have recommended Sutent.
Could you please send over a link in Spanish or German if possible? Our English isn't quite strong enough to navigate all the technical details.
Jose Mendoza5 Jose Mendoza5 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2008
#1057 ·
So, here I am. We last spoke back on August 15th. I really have to brag a little bit—I’m almost finished with my radiation treatments, and honestly, I haven't taken a single sick day. Every single workday, I’d head straight to my appointments after finishing up at the office; I suppose you could say my job serves as its own kind of psychotherapy.
To give you the full picture, I first felt that little lump on June 10th. My first surgery was on July 5th, which is when they actually discovered that what looked benign was actually a papillary invasive growth, so that was surgically removed on July 15th. Since then, I've been on oral chemotherapy along with a course of 40 radiation sessions. And well, I just hope that with regular follow-ups, everything turns out okay.
I refuse to give up, and I truly want to share some of this optimism with all of you.

I know I might have seemed incredibly exhausted at times—after all, balancing a career with radiation isn't exactly easy—but believe me, the hardest part is being stuck at home, just lying there, listening to the silence and letting your mind wander... and the nights, they feel so long.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#1058 ·
John Martin14 said:Thanks for the reply.
So, what form does this medication actually take, and where can you even get your hands on it?
My friend's son is battling Stage IV melanoma, and it’s already spread to his brain. The doctors are recommending Sutent.
Could you please send me a link in either Spanish or German? Our English isn't exactly top-tier.

So, just like @FighterGirl pointed out, Sutent only comes in capsule form.
slyseal28 said:Quoting: Sutent is used for cancer treatment. It’s available in three different capsule strengths: 12.5-mg, 25-mg, and 50-mg. You take it orally just once a day. One thing you absolutely cannot do: do not open those capsules.

Sutent is a medication used in cancer treatment—though, let’s be clear, we aren't talking about every single type of cancer here. It comes in 12.5, 25, and 50 mg capsules. You take it orally once a day, and whatever you do, don't go opening those capsules.

Getting hold of Sutent is an absolute nightmare of red tape. I don’t know where you’re located, but here in the States, for this specific indication, the drug isn't even registered or covered under standard Medicare protocols. If a doctor actually tries to prescribe it, they hit a brick wall: the request gets tossed to a hospital review board that has to vote on whether to approve or deny it. More often than not, the answer is a flat "no." In fact, doctors are often scared to even write the prescription in the first place. Even though there’s a general policy that says if a doctor prescribes a medication, the patient should be able to get it, the reality is much grittier. These drugs end up being paid for directly out of the hospital's own budget. It would all be simple if Sutent wasn't so obscenely expensive, but hospital budgets are razor-thin and strictly capped. It’s a high-stakes game—hospital directors who blow past those budget limits face getting fired by the Secretary of Health. So, right from the jump, the doctor's neck is on the line, and don't even get me started on how much it puts the patient in a desperate position.
Look, when it comes to the US, getting a prescription for a drug like this isn't just a simple matter of walking into a pharmacy and buying it out of pocket to start treatment. You might be able to track down a prescription through a private oncologist, but let’s be real—private practices just don't have the infrastructure or the specialized equipment required to monitor a treatment plan like this properly. You need a full-scale medical institution, like a major hospital, to handle that kind of oversight.

I don't know exactly how things are going for Vanda, but I'd bet it's pretty much the same situation everywhere else: if Medicare doesn't cover the medication, you're stuck paying the full price out of your own pocket.

I have to admit, this is the first I've heard about Sutent being used for malignant melanoma, too. As an association, we spent a huge chunk of this past year fighting the Sutent battle, and we finally managed to pressure the government into getting it added to the Medicare coverage list for kidney cancer. Honestly, I can't believe we didn't stumble across any data regarding its use for this specific indication during all that work.😕

And one more thing that’s absolutely critical:
If you find yourself in a position where you have to source your own medication, listen to me: do not, under any circumstances, buy anything without a legitimate prescription. Don't fall for those shady internet vendors or random resellers. These people are experts at playing the victim; they’ll spin a sob story about losing a loved one to make it seem like they're just passing along a leftover miracle cure. It’s a total scam. And for heaven's sake, don't ever touch an unsealed container. Some of these predators are so depraved they’ll actually encapsulate bacteria and sell it to you as medicine. It's pure filth.
So, we're talking about a prescription-only drug from the pharmacy!

EDIT: From what I gathered after digging around online, Sutent is still being tested in clinical trials for malignant melanoma. It would be worth asking his doctor about getting him enrolled in one of those studies. If he gets accepted into a trial, the medication could end up being free. As it stands, the current data suggests that Sutent shows some level of effectiveness in roughly one-third of melanoma patients.
http://www.pharma24.de/sutent-sunitinib.html
slyseal28 slyseal28 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2007
#1059 ·
John Martin14 said:Thanks for getting back to me.
In what form can this medication actually be found, and where?
My friend's son is battling Stage IV melanoma, and it's already spread to his brain; they've been recommended Sutent.
Could you please send over a link in either Spanish or German? Our English isn't exactly up to par.

And who exactly gave you that recommendation? Was it a doctor, or someone else?
John Martin14 John Martin14 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2009
#1060 ·
@Angela Wright/">@@Angela Wright:
Thanks for such a detailed response. I’m going to pass your post along to this poor mother. We're honestly feeling a bit lost on how to move forward from here...
@slyseal28/">@@slyseal28:
I have no idea who suggested that specific treatment to her; she just asked me to look it up online since she isn't exactly tech-savvy.
thanks so much.
Best regards,
John Martin14

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