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Is music dying?

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Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#41 ·
I think it’s vital to point out that when we talk about music as a universal language for everyone, the complexity of the composition doesn't actually matter—what matters is whether the music is good.
Anyone can mess around with software on a laptop, just like anyone can "specialized" their way through a cello, but that doesn't change the fact that a kid behind a computer screen might be a much better songwriter than a cellist, regardless of the fact that mastering the cello is objectively harder.

How was the melody for Amazing Grace born? Honestly, I have no clue, but I know someone probably had it stuck in their head a hundred years ago—someone who might not have even known how to read a single note—and they sang it while working the fields, and then others heard it and passed it along.

That song was likely created without any grueling technical struggle, yet to this day, it remains one of the most precious musical and cultural gems in history.

Laypeople—and even musicians who judge music based on how complicated it was to write, perform, or produce—are people who simply cannot grasp what music actually is.
Music isn't math, no matter how many people I know who act like it is. Music is so much more than that! Whether a track holds up depends entirely on the talent, the ear, and the sensibility of the creator, whether they are using a violin, a wooden plank, a crappy 80s synth, or a computer program.
That’s why music critics are so limited; they aren't talented, nor do they have the emotional depth to truly feel music. They just have specific styles they prefer or dislike.

Approaching music with prejudices—whether by identifying with it or not, or judging it based on the persona or image of the person who made it—makes you an incompetent and ungrateful listener right from the jump, let alone a music critic.

Music itself won't die, but it has lost value because commercialism is being churned out on a massive scale. What becomes a hit and what doesn't is decided by a mass of teenagers whose goal isn't to hear a quality song, but to identify with the performer's image—whether they're playing at being a tough guy, a satanist, or a ghetto gangster—just to boost their own egos and melt into the crowd they want to belong to.
But that isn't really music; that falls under sociology, psychology, and the development of a person who probably lacks talent, taste, or an ear for music but "knows what they like."

And that is exactly why music is failing in certain segments—because in too many cases, it is just plain bad—though I don't believe music will ever truly perish.
Commercial trends fluctuate, and when shitty music finally bores people to death, things will turn around for the better. Things are already looking better than they were in the 90s, when we were hit by that wave of rave culture and uninspired techno, which was basically synonymous with brainwashed teenagers zoning out to repetitive beats in dark, laser-lit basement clubs. Not to mention the dance music that mostly relied on covers of 70s and 80s pop classics. Those were the first signs that something was wrong, because suddenly nobody could write a decent song anymore since all the doors had opened to cater to the most aggressive and easily influenced listeners—kids. Untalented, plain-looking girls and pretty boys were essentially sponsoring themselves in music videos that looked like commercials, with the songs serving merely as background noise for them.
A huge part of the blame lies with MTV, which in the 90s was the ultimate brainwashing tool for pumping garbage into the minds of kids. As MTV began to decline and shift its programming focus, music started to improve again.
MTV nearly destroyed music because it wasn't selling sound; it was selling image, posing, superficial beauty, and pure vacuity. The saddest part is that millions of people fell for it.
Unfortunately, that's still how it works in many cases today.
Chris Gonzalez6 Chris Gonzalez6 NewcomerOP
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#42 ·
I’m with you on that... especially regarding MTV, since nowadays any kid with zero talent and a lot of frustration can find a way to make it big...
Jason Chavez32 Jason Chavez32 Active Member
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#43 ·
Come on, everyone—let’s try to show a little more empathy here.🙄
Kenneth Clark7 Kenneth Clark7 Newcomer
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#44 ·
James Kelly said:I mean, how did the melody for "Amazing Grace" even come to be? Honestly, I haven't got a clue...

🙏 🙏 🙏 😁
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#45 ·
Kenneth Clark7 said:🙏 🙏 🙏 😁


🙂 🙂
Raymond Jackson3 Raymond Jackson3 Newcomer
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#46 ·
Simplicity has always served as a sort of fundamental metric... at least when it comes to the realm of music.
fadedcanyon482 fadedcanyon482 Newcomer
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#47 ·
I don't think music is ever going to die—it just evolves, exactly like it always has. That said, if you look at the American music scene right now, there seems to be a serious shortage of truly talented artists... honestly, I’m struggling to find anyone worth mentioning. For instance, Bruce Springsteen is a legendary songwriter, but his vocals aren't exactly powerhouse material; then you have someone like Freddie Mercury, whose voice was incredible, though I wasn't always a fan of his songwriting style. To me, the only one who felt like the total package was Elvis—but since he's gone, we've been left adrift. We are definitely lacking good rock bands lately, too; groups like Foo Fighters haven't been touring much recently, and everyone else seems to have lost their edge...
As for the global stage, there will always be great bands and musicians out there... they are light years ahead of us!

Anyway, my apologies if my take offended anyone—it's just my opinion!
William Martinez84 William Martinez84 Newcomer
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#48 ·
fadedcanyon482 said:We’re definitely missing quality rock bands lately. The Dirty Dozen doesn't play out much anymore, and everyone else seems to have lost their edge...

And what about the underground scene? 🤷
Jason Chavez32 Jason Chavez32 Active Member
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#49 ·
There's nothing actually "underground" about it—you just have a bunch of amateurs who can't play a note, some bands that broke up years ago, and others who simply lack any real skill because they don't even use real instruments; instead, they rely on those cheap fake battery-powered gadgets. At this rate, music is honestly going to go extinct 🙂
Lisa King2 Lisa King2 Member
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#50 ·
The point you're making is solid, it’s just phrased a bit off... Music doesn't actually die out—it just evolves into new genres. It's mostly driven by technology and the way production keeps shifting.
Think about it—music sounded totally different thirty or forty years ago than it does now, and in another thirty years, we'll be looking back at today's stuff as "old school" too. How society perceives sound is always changing, and that's just the nature of things... it's constant.
But music itself? That's never going away—not as long as humans have ears to hear it. 😁
Kevin Wright8 Kevin Wright8 Newcomer
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#51 ·
Music is my entire life, too. When it’s gone, I’ll go with it. R. I. P.
neonmarlin19 neonmarlin19 Newcomer
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#52 ·
...Music isn't dying, per se, but finding listeners with actual taste? Now that’s becoming a lost art...☕
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#53 ·
neonmarlin19 said:Music isn't dying, but finding people who actually know how to listen? That's becoming a lost art.☕

Haha, that’s a great way to put it. 😁
Alex Rogers91 Alex Rogers91 Newcomer
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#54 ·
Sometimes I’ll just listen halfway through an album, decide it sucks, and call it a day. But then there are times when I’m sitting there waiting for something like a new release from a band out of Seattle or a heavy hitter from Portland, and once it finally drops, I’ll loop it fifteen times straight. I'll be like, okay, this track is a banger, this one is just alright, but overall, yeah, it hits.
Yesterday was even worse, though. I downloaded 28 different albums, and honestly? I barely got three songs out of any of them before moving on.
darkviper27 darkviper27 Newcomer
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#55 ·
Maybe it's dying out. Music matters to me, I guess, but I can't say my entire life revolves around it. If I actually had the money, sure, I'd be buying vinyl and CDs. But I'm broke, even though I have internet access 🙂 plus there's just this constant influx of commercial bands lately; most of them lack the raw power that older groups used to have
Kate Wood4 Kate Wood4 Newcomer
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#56 ·
Music is dying.
It’s a sad reality—musicians just can't make a living anymore. Everything hits the internet before an album even officially drops. Nobody buys physical media; there's zero thrill in going down to a local record store to hunt for a vinyl or a CD—that era is dead. You just hop online and grab whatever you want. They can't survive on streams alone. Touring is the only way left to pull in cash, but even that has become purely commercialized. From Rihanna to 50 Cent, it’s all just hollow noise. Music lacks substance now. To my great disappointment, the days when music actually meant something—when it could move people or even influence politics—are gone. The '60s, '70s, '80s, and the early '90s... that was the golden age of timeless classics. Now? Nothing like that exists. People find it too much effort to sit through a masterpiece like November Rain—they claim the solo is too long or they don't like the guitar tone because they prefer "modern" sounds. At least, that's what my friends tell me. We live in an era of computerized music, and frankly, I hate that I was born into it. I feel like I missed the boat entirely. 😠
neonmarlin19 neonmarlin19 Newcomer
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#57 ·
Kate Wood4 said:Music is dying.
And unfortunately, I have to agree. Musicians just can't make a living anymore. Everything leaks onto the internet before they even get a chance to officially drop an album. Nobody buys physical media anymore. There used to be this genuine thrill in heading down to the local record store, browsing the aisles, and finally picking up a vinyl or a CD, but that feeling is dead. Now? You just hop online and download whatever you feel like. It’s impossible for artists to survive on streaming alone. Their only lifeline left is touring, but even that has become so incredibly commercialized. From Rihanna to 50 Cent, it all feels like one giant, hollow nothingness. Music doesn't carry a message anymore. To my great sadness, the era when music actually meant something—when it could move people or even influence politics—is gone. The 60s, 70s, 80s, and even the early 90s... that was when real music was forged, creating those timeless classics and hits that stay with you forever. We don't see that now. Nowadays, people find it too much effort to sit through a full track like November Rain; they complain it's too long, or they hate the guitar tone, because they only want those processed, modern sounds. At least, that's what my friends tell me. We are living in this age of computerized, synthetic music, and I am deeply saddened to have been caught in it. I feel like I was born in the wrong era.. 😠

...you didn't miss anything... just hold onto those "dusty crates" where you've stashed away the best sounds...
When the time comes, you'll be paying with pure gold... (people laughed at me when I posted a similar thread)... but who cares what they think...😉
Kate Wood4 Kate Wood4 Newcomer
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#58 ·
Heh... there’s nothing funny about it. I’m still young—even if saying that sounds ridiculous 😂. At fifteen, I’m already obsessed with vintage sounds!! It is sooo hard to stay relevant!!! haha
I grew up with my dad's vinyl collection and old tapes, and people still roll their eyes when they see my box of cassettes!!! Let them laugh... I know what I like. And yeah, I guess I missed the era entirely!!! Every artist I listen to is either dead or long retired!! 😁 Getting tickets to see them live is impossible!!! 🙂
neonmarlin19 neonmarlin19 Newcomer
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#59 ·
Kate Wood4 said:hehe.. There’s really nothing to laugh at here. I’m still young (god, that sounds so silly 😂 ). Even at fifteen, I’m already obsessed with vintage sounds!! It is sooo hard to stay hip!!! haha
I’ve got my dad’s old vinyl collection and his cassette tapes, and people still give me these looks whenever they see my box of old tapes!!! Let them laugh... I know what I like. And yeah, okay, I might have missed the era by a bit!!! Every single artist I listen to is either dead or long since retired!! 😁 And don't even get me started on concerts!!! 🙂

...wait, am I actually coming off as old to you???😲 ...you clearly haven't spent your life collecting paper napkins...😕
...my "dusty treasure chest" was just a metaphor... I inherited my taste from my old man, so deal with it🤷 ...besides, modern concerts are pretty mediocre anyway...😛
Kate Wood4 Kate Wood4 Newcomer
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#60 ·
looool 😂
Hehe, sorry—yeah, you did seem a bit older to me!! (but in a good way 😁 )
I also listen to the kind of music my parents dig—though not all of it. Some stuff is just unlistenable!! haha
Napkins? —Never. haha
Man, I was just out right now. Listening to Rihanna and her umbrella umbrella umbrella!!
😵

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