Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival (Archive)

Man, you guys are getting way too spoiled... if you want a massive festival, you’ve gotta be ready to make some compromises...

With festivals this size, the person booking the acts doesn't really have total freedom. Sponsors dictate a lot of the rules. They usually control the whole look and feel, and in this case, they're clearly demanding that certain headliners play the Apple stage since Apple is a main sponsor alongside VIP. Since VIP put up more cash, they get the bigger names on the main stage, but obviously, Apple needs at least one big name on their stage too, so they won't just be playing opening acts for some random indie band.

It all makes perfect sense to me, and I don't get why everyone is complaining so much. Most of you will be trashed by 10 PM anyway, and you won't give a damn about some half-dead Iggy Pop when the beat drops. Same goes for Sonic Youth—you'll be fighting for front-row spots thirty minutes before they play, without giving a single thought to the New York Dolls.

The only thing that bugs me is the organizer comparing us to those huge European festivals... honestly, who cares about what happens over there?

Jesse Sanchez60 said:Good grief, you guys have certainly gotten spoiled... If you're dreaming of a massive festival, you have to be willing to make the necessary compromises...

With festivals like the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival, the talent bookers unfortunately don't have total creative control. They’re often answering to sponsors who dictate quite a bit of the direction... In this case, it’s clear that the sponsors aren't just shaping the visual identity, they're also calling the shots on the lineup. Since Apple and VIP are the primary backers, there's a lot of pressure to ensure certain headliners perform on the Apple stage... Because VIP provided the bulk of the funding, they get the biggest names on the main stage, but Apple naturally needs at least one major act on their stage too. You won't see them playing as a mere opening act for some indie band...

Everything makes perfect sense to me, and I honestly don't get why everyone is getting so worked up...

Look at Mr. Professional over here... What you're saying makes perfect sense. But come on, just let us have a little fun and get heated for a minute... 😁
There’s always a way to reorganize things so that everyone walks away happy... both the big spenders and those of us just chipping in a little bit... if we just approach it right... I know... Hey there... how's everything going?

Jesse Sanchez60 said:Let's be honest, most of you will probably be three drinks deep by 10 PM anyway. You won't give a damn about Iggy Pop being half-dead when the crowd starts surging... And let’s face it, half an hour before Sonic Youth hits the stage, everyone will be scrambling to grab a spot in the front row, without giving a single thought to the New York Dolls...

That is exactly what I've been calculating myself... 😳

Jesse Sanchez60 said:The only thing that really bothers me is how the organizers keep comparing us to those big European festivals... honestly, who cares about what's happening over there...

That's what I'm telling you...

You’re totally missing the point about the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival—everyone is really just going for Hold Steady and SY anyway! 😎

But moving on to much more interesting topics... Jesse Sanchez60, what kind of greatness do you have in store for us this fall/winter season? So far, I've only heard rumors about the nationalists (which is a massive deal in its own right).

Megan Rodriguez44 said:You can always shuffle things around to make everyone happy

Yeah, you're totally right about that... we could've just put Rosin Murphy as the headliner on the Apple stage, moved Happy Mondays to 7 PM since they're barely even conscious during their daytime sets, and slotted NY Dolls right before SY. Problem solved, everyone wins...

Ryan Gonzalez13 said:Jesse Sanchez60, what kind of good stuff are you planning for the fall/winter season? I've only heard about the nationalists so far (which is already huge).

There'll be plenty of solid little shows coming up, but I'll drop all the details in another thread soon.😉

Jesse Sanchez60 said:Why does Happy Mondays take so damn long? Can they even stay upright for more than thirty minutes? 🤔

Eventually, Paradise will be such a blast that everyone’s gonna ditch the Stooges... and these guys will probably drag their set out just to steal the crowd away...

Man, you have no clue. The Mondays are the main event. 👍
Do you even know anything about music? 🤣

Megan Rodriguez44 said:😠 enough to drive you crazy. Sonic Youth and the Dolls too. 🙂

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Jesse Sanchez60 said:The Happy Mondays should probably move their set to 7 PM while they’re still somewhat conscious enough to realize they’re actually standing on a stage.

hahaha 🤣

Honestly, there isn't a single festival out there with two or more stages where sets don't overlap at some point. If anything, we're lucky here since there aren't even that many interesting bands playing...

oh man, what a mess 😉

shadowgardener12 said:man, you're missing the point, Mondays are the real deal.

I guess you didn't really get what I was getting at.🙂

Man, I think I might have a bit of a scheduling conflict because the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival and the ADF seem to be overlapping right on top of each other 😁. But, all joking aside, does anyone happen to know how long the headliners usually play for? For instance, if SXSW kicks off at 10:15 PM and they say they can go until midnight, I guess that would mean they're playing for about an hour and forty-five minutes? 🙂

Jack Torres3 said:So does that mean they're playing for an hour and 45 minutes? 🙂

Now that's some serious optimism. 😁 You're definitely looking on the bright side...

Sigh, I honestly doubt they’d even bother playing if they were headlining their own solo show.🙂

Susan Clark10 said:lol 🤣

Every single festival with two or more stages has overlapping sets. Honestly, it's better here since there aren't even that many good bands playing anyway..

But that’s exactly the point. They have four great bands and they're all clashing with each other instead of clashing with garbage acts. It's stupid. Plus, there's zero bike parking. Even stupider. 😳

I don't know about all this, there's really only one band that catches my interest... 😉

How can I even put this... I’d love to see !!! and Nirvana again, and The Hold Steady are definitely on my radar, but honestly? I’d much rather grab a drink while listening to The Stooges than deal with Leto Stuke.

Basically, it makes zero sense for bands that have been teased as headliners for ages to be playing the same slots, especially when there's plenty of other garbage they could be paired with instead.

hollowseal33 said:I don't even know how to put this...

Err... I totally get what you mean. I was just saying that I don't really run into those kinds of issues since nothing ever overlaps for me.🙂

hollowseal33 said:Basically, it makes zero sense to have bands that have been teased as headliners for ages playing at the exact same time—especially when there's plenty of mid-tier acts they could be paired with instead!

I totally hear you, but look—the first big names they dropped were Nirvana, The Stooges, and TBA.

Honestly though, don't you think we'd be just as annoyed about the Day 1 schedule even if Nirvana and The Stooges hadn't been the very first ones announced? It feels like a bit of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, right?

Iggy Pop is an absolute icon.

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