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Proper posture?

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Participants Melissa Perez10Jeffrey Reyes4Austin Ward7ironsurfer8Casey Cook10wanderingraven15analogtrucker15Jamie Clark74mistyraven42hiddenmason11steeleagle13Megan Fowler79Thomas Ortiz10wanderingcrane51Lawrence Bishop14Laura CoxSam Cox73
mistyraven42 mistyraven42 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2007
#21 ·
analogtrucker15 said:Basically, I have this intense, burning pain right under my left shoulder blade. It’s so bad that when my husband tries to massage it even a little bit, I feel like screaming.

For me, it’s the right shoulder blade, my right arm, and the whole right side of my neck down to the shoulder. Just wonderful.👋
analogtrucker15 analogtrucker15 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#22 ·
mistyraven42, you haven't caught a draft or something, have you?
Maybe it’s just a matter of which side of the coin you're looking at. Or maybe you've been sleeping with the windows wide open and letting the AC blast right on you...
hiddenmason11 hiddenmason11 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#23 ·
A truly decent chair can solve most of your ergonomic woes. If you spend your days hunched over a computer mouse, you'll quickly realize your arms never actually sit at the same level unless you have a chair with adjustable armrests. It’s also quite beneficial to have a rocking mechanism, allowing your body to maintain some constant, gentle movement rather than staying frozen. And as for the seat itself? You want something firm and thick—on my second-to-last chair, they used this incredibly soft foam that bottomed out almost instantly, leaving me feeling like I was sitting on a literal wooden plank. 🙂
Then there is the matter of lumbar support, which is absolutely vital for keeping your lower back from collapsing. For years, I foolishly struggled with those "budget-friendly" options, only to eventually realize that my spine is significantly more important than having the latest iPhone, so I bit the bullet and invested in a high-end, professional chair. 🙂
analogtrucker15 analogtrucker15 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#24 ·
So, my office just got these weird new chairs delivered. The backrest is basically fixed only at the center, which means the sides just swing freely along with you whenever you move. At first, I honestly thought they’d messed up the order, but once you actually sit in them? They're actually incredible.
analogtrucker15 analogtrucker15 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#25 ·
I’m still a little lost on what you meant regarding the armrests. To be honest, I never actually use them; my arms stay right on the desk. One hand is busy with the mouse while the other handles the keyboard...
hiddenmason11 hiddenmason11 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#26 ·
That is precisely why adjustable armrests are such an absolute game-changer—you can raise them high enough so that your elbows are constantly supported, which means you’re maintaining a much more natural posture and, quite frankly, avoiding that soul-crushing fatigue.
ironsurfer8 ironsurfer8 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#27 ·
It’s rare to find a typing chair that actually gets the armrests right. They’re almost always too low for me—I either have to hunch over just to get some elbow support, or my arms are just left dangling in mid-air,

I think it might be time for a career change; I need to find an office with decent ergonomic seating. 😁
Austin Ward7 Austin Ward7 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#28 ·
Melissa Perez10 said:That wouldn't fly in my board of directors office; actually, it wouldn't happen at all.
I have a few questions, since you're already sitting on one:
1. Is there a lot of weight on your legs? Since the ball is round, I guess there might be a risk that if you sit down loosely and put all your weight on your glutes, you'll just fall.
2. What is the angle of your hips and knees? How big is the ball, and how do you know which size to get?

Actually, I'm sitting on the ball right now while I type this.🙂 I'm rocking side to side to shake off fatigue and stretch out my hips.😍 The ball is the largest one, about 34 inches in diameter; when I sit, my eyes are perfectly level with the monitor. It’s firm, but soft enough that you sink in just a little bit, so it feels stable. My main worry was the cleaning lady—she's about 220 pounds—worrying she might pop the ball if she sits on it, but honestly, she seems too intimidated by it to even try, so it's safe enough.👍

So, regarding question 1: it's stable, you aren't going to fall. Regarding question 2: you set whatever angle you want, because you can move the ball or the chair closer to or further from the desk, so you can adjust your knee angle as needed. Sometimes I like being closer, sometimes further, but in any position, you find yourself naturally stretching or moving your hips and back while you work.

In the end, sitting right in the middle like I am today, you can even do a few Pilates moves without getting up. For example, you can push your glutes and hips forward against the ball, or slowly lie back onto it. You can lean back slowly with your feet staying on the floor for support—keeping them a bit wider for stability—until your head touches the floor. Your back stays on the ball the whole time, essentially rolling your back along the surface. You can roll back and forth over the specific part of your back that hurts, and then slowly push back using your legs and hips to bring your spine back to an upright position.👍

It's basically the perfect chair, or rather, a piece of exercise equipment.

As for people who might give you weird looks, don't worry about them. Your back health matters more. If anyone asks, you can just tell the snobs that this is the latest trend in the corporate world (which it is). You could say that the folks in HR are always trying to stay ahead of trends with new ways of office seating, but that this particular wave of awareness is taking a little longer to reach the mainstream... but it'll get there eventually.😉
analogtrucker15 analogtrucker15 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#29 ·
Honestly, I don't give a damn what my coworkers think, but here’s the reality: if I brought that kind of thing into the office, I’d probably get hauled into a meeting with the board of directors. They'd tell me it doesn't fit the "professional image" of the company—which, to be fair, it doesn't. There's no way they'd let me keep a ball or a gaming chair sitting in my workspace... 😬
hiddenmason11 hiddenmason11 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#30 ·
The fundamental issue with sitting—if we even want to call it that—is that it is an inherently unnatural posture, one for which the human anatomy simply wasn't "engineered" to endure. To think that swapping out a standard desk chair for an exercise ball somehow fixes this is a fallacy; instead, you are merely forcing the body into a precarious, unstable state under constant strain for eight or more hours a day. Can we honestly expect our physical well-being to remain intact when subjected to such prolonged, awkward tension? Long-term, it is practically impossible for this to be anything other than detrimental to one's health.

But I shouldn't presume to be the sole authority on the matter, so let us instead consider the perspective of a legitimate expert:

"The intent of the ball chair developers was laudable: to take an item that seems to be beneficial in an area of health care (rehabilitation and strengthening/wellness) and apply the same principle to the office. But just like a hammer might be a valuable tool for some tasks (hanging a picture), in others (washing dishes) it’s useless or may do more harm than good.

The exercise ball might be great for strengthening and toning in the gym or at home, but it can’t compete with a truly ergonomic chair for long-term sitting in an office environment."
(Jeanie Croasmun, The Ergonomics report)
ironsurfer8 ironsurfer8 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#31 ·
She also has that charming little setup—a ball accessory, basically. It’s a holder with a small backrest that keeps the ball from rolling away, giving you a chance to actually sit back and relax for a moment.
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#32 ·
ironsurfer8 said:According to some new study I was reading, those classic "sit up straight" instructions—you know, the whole 90-degree thing—are total garbage.
You’re actually supposed to sit with your legs slightly extended (so more than 90 degrees at the knee) and your back tilted back slightly—meaning more than 90 degrees at the hips too.
Basically, you should be sitting with your entire backside against the chair; it helps circulation in both your legs and your lower back.

And regarding that straightening out after washing your hair...
First off, leaning over like that to wash your hair is a disaster for your posture. Try washing your hair standing up in the shower, or at least lean one hand on the tub to take the pressure off your back—honestly, you end up getting those sudden back spasms because they're being loaded at a weird angle.
Afterward, doing core exercises regularly really helps. Most bad posture comes from weak abs, which makes your back curve in a way that sticks your butt out too far.

I don't want to sound like I'm just philosophizing for no reason—I'm 25, I work a desk job, and I dealt with the exact same back issues until I fixed these few things.


So, what did you pick up? A decent chair?

How much does a good chair even matter?

I can't deal with the whole "sitting upright" nonsense myself. I tried intensely sitting perfectly straight without any back support—just using my back muscles—until after a few days I ended up with massive back pain and numbness in my ass.😬
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#33 ·
Megan Fowler79 Megan Fowler79 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2007
#34 ·
I suppose I should join in and vent a little bit as well...

My main struggle when it comes to sitting is definitely my shoulders and my lower back... it’s quite a nuisance...
Between work and everything else, I spend at least 10 to 11 hours a day glued to a computer screen...
And I rarely get up from my desk, either... unless I’m feeling hungry, thirsty, or just need a bathroom break... otherwise, I stay put...
I’ll even go out of my way to ( 😁 ) wash a few coffee mugs or glasses just to give myself an excuse to finally stand up...
It isn't that I'm avoiding movement, per se, it's just that there's often no pressing reason to move...

When I'm at home, I mostly use an exercise ball... my lower back certainly appreciates that, but my shoulders still feel the strain... 😢
At the moment, my doctor has referred me to a physical therapist to work on stretching those specific areas...
I even get a brief massage at the end of the sessions... honestly, the guy is incredibly skilled, and it feels absolutely wonderful... mmm...

Outside of that, I try to stick to yoga and running whenever I can at home...
I used to make it to the local YMCA once or twice a week for swimming, but my schedule hasn't allowed for it lately... though I plan to get back into a routine this summer...
So, that's where things stand...
Thomas Ortiz10 Thomas Ortiz10 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#35 ·
I’ve been using a stability ball at my desk for about six months now and honestly? It’s been awesome. My back feels way better—all that core work from sitting on the ball has really toned me up. But here’s the catch: now that the weather has turned cold, the ball is freezing. Even though the office is warm, the second I sit down, it’s ice cold. And let’s just say... I ended up catching a bit of a chill down there. Not ideal.
So, I finally put the ball away today and sat in a regular office chair... and man, everything hurts! I got so used to the ball that this chair feels like actual torture. Does anyone have a fix for this, or am I just stuck suffering in this chair until spring arrives?
wanderingcrane51 wanderingcrane51 Newcomer
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#36 ·
Man, I am dealing with a similar issue and it is absolutely KILLING me. Out of nowhere, every six or seven days, my back just starts acting up. And the pain isn't even steady—it shifts around all day long. It starts with these muscle pains right along the spine, just above the glutes. Then, before I know it, the ache migrates up to my shoulder blade, and then finally hits my right shoulder and that neck muscle. It’s ALWAYS the right side, specifically that muscle running up toward the neck, not the bone itself. Honestly, I could probably deal with the back stuff, but it's what happens next that's the real nightmare: this intense tension kicks in, and my head starts throbbing so hard around my eye and temple that I feel like I'm going to pass out. When that pain hits its peak, I can't do anything for the rest of the day. I work at a computer, sure, but I'm not stuck in an office cubicle all day; I make it a point to get up every fifteen minutes or so. I even play soccer recreationally, hitting the field almost every single day, but even that doesn't seem to help. What's weird is that it doesn't happen daily, but every week or so, and it's become so frequent and exhausting that I just can't take it anymore.
Has anyone else dealt with a syndrome like this, where back pain triggers these insane headaches? It’s always the right side that destroys me. And it doesn't even feel like a typical headache; it's more like this crushing tension that makes me feel incredibly drowsy and weak once it really takes hold for a few hours.
Thomas Ortiz10 Thomas Ortiz10 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#37 ·
Lisa Nelson96 said:I’ve been using a stability ball at my desk for about 6 months now and honestly, I love it. My back feels way better—it's definitely helped tone everything up through the constant micro-movements... but man, now that the weather has turned cold, the ball itself is freezing. My office stays warm, but the second I sit down, that chill hits me. And let's just say... it led to a bit of a "cold" situation downstairs. Yikes.
Today I finally tucked the ball away and sat in a regular chair... and ouch! Everything hurts! I got so used to the ball that this standard office chair feels like a torture device. Does anyone have a fix for this, or am I just stuck suffering in a regular chair until spring rolls around?

Is it just me, or is the ball actually freezing during this season??
analogtrucker15 analogtrucker15 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#38 ·
I was hanging out at kika the other day and spotted one of those stools... I’m honestly not even sure what to call them. There’s no backrest, and you basically kneel on it—you rest your knees and sit right back on your butt. Apparently, it’s this big new trend meant to take the pressure off your lower back and stop you from slouching, though if you ask me, I think it’ll just wreck my spine anyway.
It looks pretty cool, though I initially thought it would be awkward to sit on, but it actually isn't. I didn't pull the trigger just yet since it's about $267, but I'm seriously considering picking it up as a little Christmas gift to myself...
😁
Lawrence Bishop14 Lawrence Bishop14 Member
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joined Apr 2006
#39 ·
Lisa Nelson96 said:Is it just me, or does my stability ball feel freezing in this weather??

Can't you just warm it up near a radiator or something? 🤷
I'm sitting on mine at home right now and it feels totally fine—honestly, I don't think it's ever felt cold to me, so I can't really give you much advice based on my own experience!
But hey, have you thought about grabbing a thin cushion? You know, those little ones they put on patio chairs outside at coffee shops? Maybe try sitting on one of those instead! 🙂
Thomas Ortiz10 Thomas Ortiz10 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#40 ·
Maria Clark said:Can't you just warm it up near a radiator or something? 🤷
I usually just sit on my yoga ball at home and it’s totally fine—never actually felt cold before—so I can't really give you much advice based on experience.
Have you tried grabbing a thin cushion? Like those little pads they put on outdoor cafe chairs? Just sit on that! 🙂

I'm getting up all the time so the cushion keeps slipping off—plus the ball always wobbles a bit.
Gotta figure something out...

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