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Charles Edwards8 Charles Edwards8 Member
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joined Feb 2007
#241 ·
Yeah, Ivanna, I am totally with you on this one.👍 It really comes down to faith and hope.
Unfortunately, if you don't have that faith, even the perfect diet, lifestyle changes, and supplements won't mean much.

Like, I'll say it again: spontaneous healings definitely happen, they're just rare. And honestly, how we interpret them all depends on our own perspectives, our beliefs, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Walter Cox5 Walter Cox5 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#242 ·
slyseal28 said:Honestly, I am just so tired of hearing about all these "miracle cures" that supposedly fix everything.

It’s the same thing from what we’ve seen—those lucky people who have never even come close to this awful disease think they hold the secret key to a cure.
If it weren't so pathetic, it would almost be funny! 👎
Walter Cox5 Walter Cox5 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#243 ·
Angela Wright;7961795 said: faith and consistency


👍
exactly—just like everything else we tackle in life... faith and consistency.
Brenda Richardson33 Brenda Richardson33 Member
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joined Apr 2007
#244 ·
This is my first time on the forum, at least as a registered member, so I hope I can manage to get this out clearly. I’m posting because I find myself in a difficult situation as well—I'm part of the family that needs comfort and support right now, and I'm glad this topic was created, if that's how you call it 🙂. To start with, my father is very ill; this is the third time he's faced this, and this time things are looking truly grim. Ultimately, I just feel incredibly helpless and 😠 because I don't know where else to find the strength to process what's happening or how to help him, knowing that nothing I do will make a difference... Well, I'm not quite sure what I intended to say, but I am grateful there are people here willing to share their pain with others. Perhaps it will make things even a little easier for all of us...
slymoose4 slymoose4 Newcomer
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#245 ·
Betty Allen65 said:It’s the same story every time. From what we've seen, it's always those lucky people who have never even come close to this horrible disease—they're the ones acting like they hold the master key to a cure...
If it weren't so pathetic, it would actually be funny... 👎

You've got to be kidding me, Betty Allen65! Maybe you’re taking a shot at me, maybe you aren't. But if cancer is hitting 15% of the population here in the States, there is no way to avoid coming into contact with it. In my own neighborhood, I've lost an aunt, an uncle, three neighbors, a colleague...

Look, I don't have the magic key to a cure myself. That belongs to the late Dr. Johanna Budwig; she was the one who actually did the research and put it into practice. If a professor from Finland like Dr. Brkki Halme claims that the Budwig method can heal 90% of patients—compared to the measly 16% success rate seen in mainstream medicine back in 1983—then there’s clearly a way to get much better survival rates...

As for mainstream medicine, you've got doctors out there who just don't put in the effort... things often go sideways because they're looking in the wrong direction, and it's just so hard for any new insights or fresh ideas to actually break through the system...

Have you ever heard about what happened to Ignaz Semmelweis? He was running a maternity hospital back in 1847 and realized that filthy conditions—like doctors not washing their hands—were causing huge numbers of mothers to die during childbirth. In his ward, the mortality rate was as high as 13%. It took decades for the medical community to actually listen to him. They didn't accept his findings until the end of the 19th century, and he died before they did... I shouldn't have to tell anyone that basic hygiene is fundamental in any hospital, especially in operating rooms or maternity wards...

Hey there,
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#246 ·
Brenda Richardson33 said:So, this is my first time posting here as a registered member, and I’m really hoping I can find the right words. I’m reaching out because my family is going through one of those incredibly heavy times—we’re the ones who need comfort and support right now. I’m just so glad this thread was started, if that's the right way to put it. 🙂 To start off, my dad is very sick. This is the third time he’s battled this, and this time, things look truly grim. Honestly, I just feel completely and utterly helpless, 😠 and I don't know where else to turn to find the strength to process what's happening or how to help him, knowing that nothing I do will actually change the outcome... I don't even know what else to say, but it means a lot to see people here willing to share their pain with others. Maybe that'll make things a little easier for all of us...

Honey, there isn't anything I or anyone else on this forum can say to strip away that sense of helplessness once you've tasted it. It's a weight everyone here knows too well. What I can tell you—though you likely already know it—is that you have done everything humanly possible for your father. Just let that feeling of helplessness sit with you for a while; it’s a perfectly natural reaction to what you're facing. Eventually, you’ll accept it and find a way to come to terms with the situation. All that will be left is the grief and the void he leaves behind. But eventually, the sharp edge of that grief softens, and the longing turns into beautiful, vivid memories of the good times.
Even though it feels like you're running on empty right now, believe me, that strength is still inside you. You'll surprise yourself by how it resurfaces right when you think you're about to break.
Don't give up hope for your dad. You mentioned this is the third time, and maybe this time, luck is finally on his side. Life is strange like that—sometimes the most trivial, harmless things end in tragedy, so why couldn't the opposite happen? Life constantly oscillates. Hold onto hope and stay strong!
slyseal28 slyseal28 Member
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joined Mar 2007
#247 ·
Does anyone know how the radiation procedure actually works?

My husband had his CT verification this past Friday. Now we’re just sitting tight, waiting for the doctor to get back to us. Once they reach out, do they confirm if the mapping is good to go, or is there a chance they’ll have to redo the CT scan entirely?😕

I’m just trying to wrap my head around the protocol here. If the CT verification comes back fine, what happens next? Do they call you in for the actual radiation sessions, or are you expected to schedule something yourself?

Also, does the wait for radiation tend to be long? Sister Smilje mentioned it might take about a month!😲
Walter Cox5 Walter Cox5 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#248 ·
slymoose4 said:bla bla bla

Is there some specific reason you felt called out? A guilty conscience, perhaps?!

Also—you claim Dr. Budwig holds the key to a cure, yet in the very next breath, you say the cure rate is 90%. That would mean there is NO "key" to a cure for the other 10% of patients!!!!

I honestly think you’re either swallowing information whole without chewing, totally misreading what’s in front of you, or... well, just talking nonsense!
Brenda Richardson33 Brenda Richardson33 Member
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joined Apr 2007
#249 ·
Angela Wright said:Look, there isn't anything I or anyone else here can say to strip away that sense of helplessness we all face at one point or another. What I can tell you—though you already know it—is that you have done everything humanly possible for your father. Let that feeling of powerlessness just sit with you for a while; it’s a completely natural reaction. Eventually, you'll accept it and find some peace with the situation. All that will remain is sadness and the void he leaves behind. But even that sadness eventually fades, leaving only the vivid, beautiful memories of the good times.
Even if you feel like you're hitting a breaking point right now, trust that there's a strength within you. You'll likely surprise yourself by how it surfaces just when you think you're about to crumble.
Don't lose hope for your father. You mentioned this is the third time, so perhaps this is his third stroke of luck. Sometimes the most trivial things end in tragedy, so why shouldn't the opposite be true? Life is nothing but constant fluctuations. Keep your chin up and hang in there.

Thank you. I'm hoping for better days too, even if it doesn't feel that way right now. I consider myself a fighter and an optimist, but it's hard when you watch things decline day after day, and the doctors tell you it's only going downhill... especially with the tumor being in the worst possible location... and well... it's just heavy right now. Maybe tomorrow will be better.
Betty Gonzalez8 Betty Gonzalez8 Newcomer
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#250 ·
My uncle passed away from cancer last week, so I’ve naturally started looking into the whole thing quite a bit. What I’m really wondering about is... is it possible to, say, go in for screenings once a year just to catch anything in an earlier stage? I mean, I assume it’s doable, but then it doesn't make much sense why people don't do it more often when so many people end up losing their lives to this. Also, besides that, is there any actual, realistic reason why someone gets it? Or is it mostly just genetics and luck of the draw? Thanks.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#251 ·
Betty Gonzalez8 said:My uncle passed away from cancer last week, so I’ve started digging into this whole thing myself. What I really want to know is: can you just go in for screenings once a year to catch potential cancer at an early stage? I assume that's possible, but if it is, why aren't more people doing it when so many are dying from this stuff? Also, is there actually a logical reason why someone gets it, or is it just a roll of the genetic dice? Thanks.

There are a massive amount of variables at play here. Some types of carcinoma can be caught early through routine checkups, which allows for much better treatment outcomes. However, other types are practically invisible until it's too late; even if you catch them early, they are incredibly difficult to treat—take Glioblastoma multiforme stage IV, for example. It's a different beast entirely.
There are already plenty of forums dedicated to this exact topic, so you might want to spend some time browsing those.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#252 ·
Brenda Richardson33 said:Thank you! I’m hoping things turn around too, even if it feels impossible right now. I consider myself a fighter and an optimist, but when you see things getting worse day after day—and then the doctors tell you it can only go uphill while the tumor is in the absolute worst possible spot... it’s just hard. It’s heavy right now. Maybe tomorrow will be better...

Things will work out somehow, and I truly believe they can get better. My advice? Try to take everything as it comes and don't let the doctors' words weigh you down too heavily. Their talk is almost always based on broad statistics or limited personal experience. Don't forget, they spend their entire careers building that experience. Why couldn't your dad become a brand new, positive case study for them? I don't know if you're religious, but from my own life, I can tell you that God has the final word. When my mom got her diagnosis, they basically prepared to bury her after just six months. Yet, here she is, nearly two years later, still fighting through it all.
Just let life teach you how to carry these heavy burdens. That's just the way it is.😘
slymoose4 slymoose4 Newcomer
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#253 ·
Betty Allen65 said:Is there a specific reason you felt called out?! A guilty conscience?!

Also, you claim Dr. Budwig holds the key to a cure, then in the very next breath, you say the cure rate is 90%. That means there is NO "key to a cure" for the other 10% of patients!!!!

I think you're either swallowing information without chewing it, or you just don't understand what you're reading... or you're just talking nonsense!

I knew I’d provoke you. And yeah, I felt targeted because I mentioned earlier that I haven't dealt with cancer myself.

In my book, 90% is an incredible result. Honestly, even 50% would be stellar, considering they can't even hit those numbers today despite dumping billions into research and treatment.

It feels like the price of progress and industrialization was way too high—all these new diseases popping up (even if we did settle some scores with the old ones), the pollution we're leaving for future generations, and that constant talk about global warming.
We really need to pump the brakes on the obsession with profit and maybe actually share some of the world's wealth with the poor.

And as for the swallowing thing, I wouldn't recommend anyone skip chewing. Everyone should chew their food at least ten times for the sake of their health.

Best,
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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joined Feb 2007
#254 ·
slymoose4 said:I knew I’d provoke you. Yeah, I felt called out because I mentioned earlier that I didn't get cancer.

In my view, a 90% success rate is an absolutely stellar result. Honestly, even hitting 50% would be considered outstanding these days, especially when you consider that most researchers and medical institutions aren't even seeing those kinds of numbers despite dumping billions of dollars into R&D and clinical treatments.

It feels like the price tag for progress and industrialization was way too steep. We’re paying for it with this wave of brand-new diseases—even if we did manage to settle some scores with the old ones—not to mention the massive pollution we're dumping on future generations and that constant, looming threat of global warming everyone keeps talking about.
We really need to take a breather and stop obsessing over nothing but the bottom line. It’s time to pump the brakes on this constant pursuit of profit and actually start sharing the world's wealth with those who have nothing.

When it comes to swallowing, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone if they actually care about their health—unless, of course, you want to start chewing every single bite of food at least ten times before letting it go down.

Hey there,

slymoose4, thanks again for your generosity in sharing information about this treatment method. At the same time, I need you to understand the skepticism coming from people who are being hit directly and incredibly hard by cancer. It’s not just once or twice that they've had close encounters with all sorts of so-called "methods" that did nothing but torture their loved ones, offering false hope while delivering zero results. In my opinion, it wasn't the actual method you presented that provoked Betty Allen65, but rather the way you framed it: "my people, I can't believe you don't know about this yet." It felt like someone was patronizing us, implying we’re stupid or blind. Every single one of us here has been doing—and continues to do—everything humanly possible to help our loved ones through things most people couldn't even imagine, let alone without diving into deep literature and consulting with specialists all over the world, not just locally.
Una is a woman who recently lost her beloved child, so can you even begin to fathom how soul-crushing and devastating it would be for her if she discovered that what you’re presenting as a cure was actually within her reach all along? Imagine the agony of knowing that if she had only known about this, she might have saved her little one—but instead, she missed it because, like most of us, she relies on her intellect and places her faith in scientifically proven studies. Look, you can find arguments for or against just about anything in this world, but we need to maintain some grounded, realistic standards; otherwise, we’re all just drifting aimlessly into chaos.
Like I’ve said before, trying to help people battling cancer is incredibly slippery ground. You can stumble straight into hell through nothing more than good intentions. That’s why the smartest move is to simply present what you believe to be beneficial and then step back—let people decide for themselves if they want to take that leap or not. Once you've shared your truth, your mission is done. Pushing harder or trying to convince anyone beyond that usually just ends up being counterproductive. Personally, I put my entire faith in God's will; I believe that through His grace, healing can come from something as simple as an apple. But hey, that's just me—not everyone sees things that way.
Thanks again, and just so you know, I’m going to try giving this to my mom. It can’t hurt her, and honestly, I give this particular method a huge thumbs up.
mistyridge5 mistyridge5 Member
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#255 ·
Honestly, I believe any therapy is effective if the patient actually feels better afterward—even if it’s just a matter of personal suggestion. Of course, this assumes the treatment doesn't carry negative side effects (and by that, I mean elements involving chemistry, physics, or biology...)
Whether we are talking about faith and what might seem like a simple prayer, or perhaps certain natural juices and supplements...

Sometimes, I suppose, we just become skeptical. We stop believing in alternative approaches, and everything starts to feel like just more nonsense that leaves us sinking even deeper into the mess. Please excuse my choice of words—I’m just currently going through a phase of intense anger and rage, something I truly thought I had moved past a long time ago.

And yes, it can be quite pathetic and sad, but I guess some people don't necessarily develop empathy after facing major life tragedies.

One part of me tried to live composedly, realistically, "by the book"; meanwhile, another part was struggling with feelings of helplessness, anger, sadness, pain, fury, grief, resentment...
And now.... now I am in this second phase... And as much as I feel terrible, I actually feel (believe it or not) somewhat good, because I’m hoping this process will purge everything from within me—that it won't just build up until I eventually explode....
Walter Cox5 Walter Cox5 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#256 ·
Betty Gonzalez8 said:My uncle passed away from cancer last week, so I've started looking into this whole thing. What I really want to know is—can you just go in for checkups once a year or something to catch potential cancer early? I assume it's possible, but then why don't more people do it if so many are dying from it? Also, is there a real reason why someone gets it, or is it just genetics and bad luck? Thanks.

It's possible, dear—you could even go once a month... maybe even daily, though that seems extreme.

A real-life example... my precious baby girl.
Her last exam was August 17, 2006, right after she got back from a week of snowboarding... just standard tests and everything, and the doctor told us to come back in a year because she looked absolutely wonderful—she felt better than ever, and all her results were perfect.
By September 2006, during her 15th birthday... she came back from a two-day hiking trip (our sweet girl was always such a healthy, active athlete...) and started complaining about pain on her right side... My goodness, we honestly thought it was just from her backpack.

Two weeks later, they told her she was terminal and there was nothing left to do... which was confirmed by seven different top-tier cancer clinics worldwide.
Then, we reached out to a private clinic in San Diego... "Unfortunately, we don't have enough experience treating this specific type of sarcoma, so we can't help you."
Next, a private clinic in Northern Spain... "Regrettably, her case is extremely rare..."

To be specific, the issue was that the subtype of sarcoma my baby had is one of the rarest in existence. She was only 19... the longest anyone in the US has lived with this was 32 or 33, and even then, they were in hospitals for therapy every couple of years.

My beautiful child became an angel on December 3, 2006.

Anyway, that's our story.
Walter Cox5 Walter Cox5 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#257 ·
slymoose4 said:I knew I’d push your buttons eventually.


Honey, don't flatter yourself—
you aren't provoking me...
I'm just genuinely impressed by your stupidity.

You claim you're 44... though you act like a 7-year-old kid.

Enjoy yourself!
Walter Cox5 Walter Cox5 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#258 ·
Angela Wright;7980976 said: ....


Every single time—I’m just blown away by your strength.
Walter Cox5 Walter Cox5 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#259 ·
Betty Gonzalez8 said:Is there actually a real reason why this happens? Or is it just down to genetics and luck? Thanks.

First off, we really need to clarify which type of cancer we're talking about—is it what people call "lifestyle" cancer, is it genetic, or something else entirely?

Take our situation as an example...

In our family, Najmilija was the first one to ever deal with carcinoma.
Both sides of our family tend to live pretty long lives, too.
And honestly, I can't even describe how shocking it was—we’re the kind of family that is super conscious about nutrition, and all four of us stay active regularly...
You know how it is—you take care of yourself and think, "Okay, that should be enough."

Well... it isn't. Maybe it lowers the odds, but it's definitely not a 100% guarantee.

With sarcoma, nobody truly knows where it comes from or how it starts.
Right now, we're working with specialists in the US (through our local specialist here) to compare data from a journal I kept when the baby first got sick. We're trying to see if there's any link between her growth patterns and the onset of the sarcoma, since we noticed a specific pattern that might help us understand things better.

So... yeah. There are really no guarantees in life, and I suppose you just have to live every day as if it were your last.
Brenda Richardson33 Brenda Richardson33 Member
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joined Apr 2007
#260 ·
When I read Una’s story, my heart just sank. I have so much respect for you... and for everyone here showing this kind of strength. Thank you, Angela Wright, for those kind words of support. I consider myself a believer, but honestly, I feel like there’s nothing more we can do for my father. Because of the cancer in his bone that's pressing against his brain, he lost almost all of his sight and hearing in such a short window of time. Every single day seems to bring something worse; it’s progressing far too quickly. It’s hard to face such a brutal reality, and even harder to witness his pain. I suspect most of you feel exactly how I do—wishing you could just take the suffering away from those you love, but knowing it’s impossible. The hardest part is trying to imagine life without someone so dear to you...😢 The worst part is that fear that follows you through the days and the nights...

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