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Sandra Evans13 Sandra Evans13 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2008
#2881 ·
Amanda Miller69 said:Honey,
I completely get you because I’m going through the exact same thing. I held onto hope until Friday, then I saw the discharge papers confirming metastatic carcinoma—it’s everywhere. We have her settled in Springfield. She’s in pain, and they’re giving her 10mg of Tramal twice a day (a doctor friend of hers calls that a massive dose). She can’t eat, she has no appetite, she can’t even handle a decent cup of coffee....
On top of that, she’s incontinent, weak, looks terrible, and we are just praying to God to take her soon so she doesn't have to suffer. The doctors in Springfield say it could be three days, a few weeks, or months. My sister-in-law, based on her experience losing several relatives to cancer, thinks it’ll be 10-15 days. Mom’s doctor friend says his experience points toward a couple of weeks. Besides, Mom is depressed; she wanders off occasionally, and when she snaps out of it, she gets agitated and demands to go home. She barely speaks now. If I knew this would only last a day or two, I’d bring her home to pass away in peace, but I simply can't afford 24-hour nursing care, and I couldn't handle watching her die right in front of me. My dad passed away three years ago from a heart attack, my brother has his own family to deal with, so my boyfriend and my mom’s cousin are my only real support right now. My brother is actually doing even worse than I am. Hang in there; this is the hardest stretch we'll ever have to push through. Pusa and a big hug.🙂

Dear Amanda Miller69....
What else is there to say to comfort you? Unfortunately, all we can do is pray that they pass in peace and with dignity...
Stay strong... love your mom and be her strength during these days....
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2882 ·
Sandra Evans13 said:Good luck to anyone still holding onto hope... mine has completely burned out... Sis, I'm so sorry...

Honey, I am so sorry... but please, remember that hope is usually the last thing to flicker out. Try to hold onto it, because you have to find a way to stand tall through this remaining time and be there for her. If you stay this broken, it’s going to be incredibly hard to give her what she needs. She needs you to keep believing and keep hoping. She deserves that from you, because at the end of the day, she's the one going through this—we're all just caught in the wake of it. Please, try to pull yourself together. Do it for Mom, do it for your sister, and do it for yourself... hang in there and fight. Life is essentially one long struggle, and we have to fight even when there isn't a shred of guarantee that we'll win. We don't have any other choice but to fight. The only time we can truly give up is when we close our eyes for good; that's the only time the battle of life actually ends.
Believe me, when a person throws up their hands in surrender, God only needs to move a finger to take control. I learned that lesson deeply many times while my own mother was sick.
John Chase6 John Chase6 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Jun 2007
#2883 ·
Hey there!
I don't really have any good news to share :-(—basically, the test results were pretty rough, so we had to push things back a week to give her body a chance to hopefully stabilize... (markers are up, sedimentation is high, CRP is elevated... and we still don't even know why???) But hey, I guess patience is a virtue.
Dear Amanda Miller69, I am so incredibly sorry that the latest updates regarding your mom are this bad. Please, please try not to take it personally when she says something harsh—it’s just not who she truly is. That irritability she might be showing? It’s probably just a reflection of how much she's hurting because of everything she's going through.
Sandra Evans13, I'm keeping your mom, you, and your sister in my thoughts. I hope you all find the strength you need to get through this. I totally get it, too—I went through something similar about two years ago when I had to say my final goodbye to my dad...
Best, Grace Fowler
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2884 ·
Grace Fowler said:Hey everyone!
I don't have much good news to share :-( Honestly, the lab results were pretty rough, so we had to push things back a week with the German doctor to see if her condition improves... (her markers and sedimentation levels spiked, plus CRP is up... we aren't even sure why yet???) But I'm just trying to stay patient and take it one step at a time.
Dear Fiza, I am so incredibly sorry to hear that the latest updates regarding your mom are this bad. Please, try not to take any harsh words she might say to heart—it’s not really her. That irritability she's showing is likely just a reflection of how much pain she's in because of everything she's going through.
Sandra Evans13, I'm praying for your mom, and for you and your sister too. I hope you all find the strength you need to get through this. I truly understand what you're feeling, because I went through something very similar two years ago when I had to say my final goodbye to my dad...
Best, Dina

Damn it all😠
Hang in there, girl, things will get better! We're all standing right here with you!
Zachary Booth3 Zachary Booth3 Member
27 messages
joined Dec 2008
#2885 ·
It’s painful reading through all these terrible updates... I truly empathize with everything you're going through—all those heavy emotions and the heartache involved.
My dad isn't doing great either, but I try to tell myself this is just a phase, like the ones he's had before, and that things will improve eventually..
Amanda Miller69, don't let the prognoses get to you. Try to ignore them as much as possible; they can be so counterproductive you might not even realize it. You can't give up because of your mom—she's still here and she needs you!

When we visit my dad, we talk about the usual everyday stuff (even if he doesn't say much back to us lately, which happens more often). We joke around, tickle him, and my brother will even lie down in the hospital bed next to him just to chat about anything and everything. Even though we're all adults now, we've always been close like that. We just act like we're hanging out in our own living room, talking and joking around... I constantly tell him he's the most loved man in the world, and we're affectionate with him. It makes us feel better, and we make sure to pass nothing but positive energy his way.
Of course, we aren't delusional. We aren't ignoring the reality or the facts. But within that reality, we've decided that this is how we fight the illness—by supporting Dad this way to help him recover.
Obviously, it’s incredibly hard sometimes. There are moments when I don't just want to scream from the frustration, but I want to tear everything apart. But I don't have a choice—for my dad's sake, I can't let go or give up. I have to fight right alongside him.
gentlemoose62 gentlemoose62 Active Member
105 messages
joined Jul 2008
#2886 ·
Grace Fowler;13725160 said:Hi there!
I don't have much good news, unfortunately :-( My results were pretty rough, so we had to push things back with the German doctor by a week to see if things improve... (markers, sedimentation, and CRP are all up... we aren't even sure why yet???) But hey, patience is a virtue, right?

Grace, honey, hang in there! Let's hope it's just inflammation from that wound after surgery. It really won't leave you alone... ugh!😠
You're right about being patient, but I really hope this gets sorted out quickly!

To everyone else fighting their own battles right now, stay strong. This is all temporary... nothing lasts forever, and one thing is certain... better days are coming.
Benjamin Grant6 Benjamin Grant6 Member
36 messages
joined Aug 2008
#2887 ·
Grace Fowler, please remain steadfast and resolute, and continue to trust your intuition! They say patience is a virtue, and I am truly glad that your heart is guiding you through this... We Americans are fighters, and please know that you are in our thoughts...

Every update is significant news, and unfortunately—life encompasses both the light and the dark... I sincerely hope that the findings will improve very soon...

kisses

Grace Fowler said:Hello!
I don't have much good news to share :-( actually, the test results were quite poor, so we had to postpone the appointment with the German doctor by a week to see if her condition might stabilize... (there was an increase in markers, sedimentation, and CRP... though the cause remains unknown???) But as they say, patience is key.
Dear Amanda Miller69, I am so deeply sorry to hear that the latest updates regarding your mother are so discouraging; please, do not take any harsh words she may utter to heart, for they do not reflect her true spirit. The irritability she might be exhibiting is merely a reflection of the profound sadness caused by her current situation...
Sandra Evans13, I am praying for your mother, and also for you and your sister, that you may find the strength required to weather such circumstances. I understand your pain, as I faced something quite similar two years ago when I had to say my final goodbye to my father...
Best, Grace Fowler
Zachary Howard2 Zachary Howard2 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jan 2009
#2888 ·
Grace Fowler said:Hi there!
I don't really have any good news to share :-( . My lab results were quite poor, so we had to push things back with the German doctor by a week to see if her condition might improve somehow... (her markers, sedimentation, and CRP levels spiked, but we aren't even sure why???) Still, I suppose patience is a virtue.
Dear Fiza, I am so incredibly sorry to hear that the latest updates regarding your mother are so discouraging. Please, try not to take it personally if she says anything harsh; it’s just not her true self speaking. Any irritability she shows is likely just a reflection of the grief and frustration over everything she's going through right now.
Sandra Evans13, I am keeping your mother in my thoughts, along with you and your sister. I hope you all find the strength needed to navigate this. I truly understand what you're feeling, as I went through something very similar two years ago when I had to say my final goodbye to my father...
Best, Grace


My dear,
I am so deeply sorry about those bad test results; reading your message truly saddened me. 😢
If there is anything at all I can do to help, please let me know.
I am an absolute wreck right now, just constantly worrying about Mom. Yesterday, I found out from the doctors in Springfield that they haven't even done a brain CT scan—it was never performed. The abdominal ultrasound report was sloppily written, and the discharge summary felt more like a dismissal than actual medical care. My aunt went to the hospital yesterday to get a signature for some intestinal procedure, and the head nurse told her that Mom had already been aggressive there. It wasn't that IV bags were bursting, but rather that she was tearing them apart; she refused to walk entirely. And that part about her losing consciousness when they lifted her? That wasn't true—she actually fell out of bed, and my aunt realized then that there was no hope left. What absolute hacks. To whom were they lying for three or four years? Honestly, it would have been better if they hadn't operated at all; they would have spared her all this further misery and pain. It feels as though she was merely a textbook case for them to practice on. That explains why they weren't properly attending to her, and I honestly suspect someone gave her the bad news prematurely, because she went from talking about everything she wanted to do once she got home to suddenly becoming completely apathetic. Her friend told me yesterday that she can't even walk anymore.
The poor woman is struggling so much that she turned off her phone just to shut everyone out. I can't even blame her; I'm just endlessly heartbroken.😢
Hang in there and stay strong, just as you have been so far.👍
Pusa and a big hug🙂
Zachary Howard2 Zachary Howard2 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jan 2009
#2889 ·
Linda Peterson37 said:It breaks my heart to read through all these heavy updates... I truly feel for everyone here. I can sense the weight of everything you're going through and the sheer intensity of the emotions sitting in your hearts. It sounds incredibly painful.
My dad isn't doing great lately, but I try to frame it in my mind as just another phase—like the ones he's navigated before—and that things will eventually take a turn for the better.
Amanda Miller69, please don't let the medical prognoses get under your skin. Try to tune them out as much as possible; they can be so counterproductive that you might not even realize how much they're affecting you. For your mom's sake, you can't afford to lose hope. She's still here, and she needs you.

Whenever we visit my dad, we just talk about the usual everyday stuff (even if he doesn't say much back to us lately; he’s been getting quieter). We joke around, tickle him, and keep things light. My brother will actually climb into the hospital bed with him just to chat about anything and everything. Even though we’re all adults now, we’ve always been that close, so we act like we’re just hanging out in our living room, catching up and laughing. I make sure to tell him constantly that he’s the most loved man in the world. We stay affectionate, and honestly, it makes us feel better too. We focus entirely on projecting positive energy toward him.
Don't get me wrong, we aren't delusional. We aren't ignoring the reality of the situation or the medical facts. We've simply made a conscious choice within our own reality to fight this illness alongside him and help him heal.
Of course, that’s easier said than done. There are moments when I feel like I want to scream from the pure exhaustion of it all, or just smash everything in sight. But I really don't have a choice. Because of my dad, I can't just let go of the wheel and give up; I have to stay in the fight right there with him.

My mother has stopped communicating effectively. Her voice is so weak now, and all she repeats is that she wants us to take her home. Sadly, for her, there isn't any hope left. This isn't just a passing phase; it's more a question of how much longer she can hold on. Mom is resentful toward all of us right now (I don't blame her, though I find myself hating myself for the whole situation), and the doctors advised us to visit less frequently so we don't agitate her further. I'm currently trying to find a facility where I can at least ensure she has a dignified transition.😢
slyseal28 slyseal28 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2007
#2890 ·
Amanda Miller69 said:I am in a complete state of misery right now; I’m tearing myself apart because of my mom, she’s all I can think about. Yesterday, I found out from a doctor in Springfield that there wasn't even a brain CT performed (it just wasn't done), the abdominal ultrasound report was sloppy, and the discharge papers were basically dismissive. My aunt went to the hospital yesterday to get a signature for a colostomy bag that was missing, and her head nurse told her that Mom had already been aggressive there—she wasn't just tearing the bags open, she was refusing to walk entirely. And regarding what she said about passing out when they lifted her? That wasn't it; she actually fell out of bed, and she told my aunt she knew there was no hope left for her. What absolute crooks, I can't even say it. Who were they lying to three or four years ago? It would have been better if they hadn't done anything at all, if they hadn't operated, just to spare her this further agony and suffering. It feels like she was just a textbook case for them to practice on and continue their studies. That’s probably why they didn't bother with her, and I honestly suspect someone told her the truth about her condition, because first she was talking about everything she'd do once she got home, and then she suddenly became completely apathetic. Her friend told me yesterday that she couldn't even walk anymore.
The poor woman is struggling so much right now, and she turned off her phone just so she wouldn't have to deal with anyone. I can't blame her; I'm just endlessly sad.😢
Hang in there and don't give up; stay strong, just like you always have.👍
Big hugs🙂

Amanda, I’ve been following your story for a while now, and I can't help but feel that you might be drawing some of the wrong conclusions here. Your mother underwent surgery, and by doing so, they certainly gave her a fighting chance to live a bit longer. No doctor would have even touched her if her condition were as dire as you’re describing it. I get the impression that ever since you read that pathology report, you've completely misinterpreted a few things. You mentioned metastatic ovarian cancer... and that everything was involved. But that is precisely why such a radical surgery was performed. Your mother needs to recover now... and honestly, in my opinion, what you're doing right now is totally misplaced. I might sound harsh (and I truly don't mean to offend you), but it seems to me like you're mourning her before her time.

Furthermore, you say she's withdrawing... Well, your mother has a colostomy. Honestly, I would shut myself away too because of an ostomy, at least for a while. Please try to understand that everyone needs time to process a shock like this... She has to adjust to this new reality, and by acting this way, you're only making it harder for her. Forgive me again if I'm being too blunt, but I really think you're overreacting. I think you need to pull yourself together and focus more on her during this moment. If I were in your shoes, I would bring her home no matter how difficult it was. Even if it's destined that she passes within two, three, or seven days, then let it be in her own home.

Amanda, once again, please take this in good faith. I don't intend to insult you; I'm just trying to point out that some of your reactions seem off.
slyseal28 slyseal28 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2007
#2891 ·
Grace Fowler said:Hey everyone!
I don't really have any good news to share :-( To be honest, my test results were pretty rough, so we had to push things back with the German doctor by a week to see if things might stabilize... (my markers, sedimentation, and CRP levels spiked, and we aren't even sure why yet???) But I suppose patience is a virtue.

Grace, I'm thinking of you. Sending you all my strength and nothing but positive vibes! Things have to get better!
Laura Williams74 Laura Williams74 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Apr 2008
#2892 ·
I’ve been reading your posts for a long time now... I want nothing but the absolute best for everyone here—above all, I hope you find healing, and that things finally start looking up... stay strong, keep your faith... this whole thing has truly become a monster..

And honestly, given how my own health situation is unfolding, I think I might be joining your ranks soon... once I get an official diagnosis...

I'm 31, a single mom, and I'll update you all once I have concrete news today. I read a lot here, and I truly believe it’s vital that we share everything—how things progress for each of us, from those first symptoms through the diagnosis... the medications, and everything else that comes with it...

Amanda Miller69, Grace Fowler, and the rest of you... I know how incredibly hard this is. Knowing you can't even get decent medical leave just to care for a loved one, it’s just... it's soul-crushing. Sometimes doctors can be so blunt and harsh in the way they speak; it makes it so difficult to hold onto hope. I'm sending you all strength and hope, and I completely agree with what slyseal28 wrote.

God, this damn thing... such a vile, sneaky piece of work....
Zachary Howard2 Zachary Howard2 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jan 2009
#2893 ·
slyseal28 said:Fiza, I’ve been following your story for a while now, and I can't help but feel you might be reaching some rather flawed conclusions. Your mother underwent surgery, which undoubtedly gave her a fighting chance at more time. No doctor would even touch her if her condition were as dire as you're making it out to be. Honestly, I get the impression that ever since you read that PhD report, you've completely misinterpreted the situation. You mentioned metastatic ovarian cancer and that everything was involved... but that is precisely why such a radical surgery was performed. Right now, your mother needs to recover. What you're doing right now feels, in my honest opinion, entirely misplaced. I might sound harsh—and please believe me, I have no intention of offending you—but it seems to me like you're essentially giving up on her prematurely.

Furthermore, you say she’s withdrawing... Well, your mother was fitted with a colostomy bag. Frankly, if it were me, I’d shut myself away because of that too, at least for a while. Try to understand that everyone needs time to process a shock like this. She has to adapt to this new reality, and by acting this way, you're only making things harder for her. Forgive me again if I'm being too blunt, but I truly think you're overreacting. I think you need to pull yourself together and focus more on her right now. If I were in your shoes, I would have brought her home regardless of how difficult it was. If it is her fate to pass within two, three, or even seven days, then let her spend those days in her own home.

Fiza, please take this in the spirit it's intended. I'm not trying to attack you; I'm just trying to point out where I think your perspective is skewed.


My dear,
if things were actually going the way you suggest, I would be the happiest person alive. I spoke with the doctor in Springfield today, and he made it very clear that we have to accept that this is reaching its natural end and there is nothing left to be done. He reviewed all the clinical findings, and it isn't a matter of me misinterpreting anything. These medical teams deal with dozens of cases like this every single day. A close friend of my mother’s, who is also a diagnostic specialist and someone she trusts implicitly, told me the same thing—and he wouldn't lie to me, especially not as her child. Her entire abdomen is involved; the peritoneum, the liver, the bladder, the intestines, the stomach. They didn't touch the liver or the stomach because she wouldn't have survived the procedure. The metastases are systemic. Do you really think I wouldn't give anything for her to get better or for some miracle to happen?
It felt as though they used her at the hospital as a "test case" to see how much could be done, and afterward, they practically avoided us. Even Dr. Smith told us he was hesitant about whether to operate at all, mentioning before the surgery that, in principle, this wasn't considered operable.
Please forgive me, and forgive everyone else too; I am at my wit's end and I know I'm being abrasive.🙂
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2894 ·
Laura Williams74 said:I’ve been reading through all your posts for a while now... I just want to wish everyone the absolute best—most importantly, I hope you all find healing and things start looking up. May you find strength and faith... this whole situation has turned into an absolute nightmare.

And honestly, based on how my own health has been trending lately, I think I might be joining your ranks pretty soon... once I get an actual diagnosis...

I'm 31, a single mom, and I'll post an update once I get concrete news today. I read a lot here, and I truly believe it's vital that we all swap information—sharing what's happening with each of us, from those very first symptoms to the final diagnosis, the meds, and everything else that comes with it...

Fiza, Dina, and everyone else—I know how incredibly hard this is for you. It's brutal when you can't even get standard medical leave to take care of your loved ones, so hang in there... doctors can be so blunt and harsh sometimes that it makes it almost impossible to hold onto hope. I’m sending you all strength and hope, and I completely agree with what slyseal28 wrote.

God, this thing is such a cursed, low-life piece of filth....

Laura, hold your horses!😳 What you’re describing sounds more like shingles to me, just like I mentioned to you over in that other thread. Don't jump to conclusions; let a competent, dedicated doctor actually do their job first. Once you have a real diagnosis, then we can talk about whether it’s cancer and how to tackle it. What you're doing right now is pure panic, and frankly, it's doing you more harm than good. Pull yourself together, lady, and handle things one step at a time—which means stop trying to solve a problem you don't even know exists yet.
I don't believe you have cancer.
Laura Williams74 Laura Williams74 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Apr 2008
#2895 ·
Forgive me, I know most of you already have a diagnosis in hand, but I don’t have anything official yet. Looking back, my previous post was a bit... unrefined, I suppose. Panic just took over. About six months ago, I had to walk away from my job. My heart started racing uncontrollably, my face flushed out of nowhere... then this sharp, burning pain under my arm. I ended up heading straight to the ER—because, honestly, it felt like the tenth time I'd had an episode like that—and that's when the doctor first mentioned cancer. She looked at me and said, "These symptoms aren't anything to take lightly; you need testing. This could potentially be a carcinoid tumor." When I asked where, she just pointed toward my abdomen and said, somewhere in there...

I've got a bump in my ear, and frankly, I'm not feeling great... but here I am. Reading through your stories, I've actually learned so much from all of you. It's made me realize that this doesn't just happen to "some random person"—it's right here among us. And it's better to be proactive, to get the tests and the screenings done early...

Of course, I'm hoping it's nothing, but as time goes on, that certainty is slipping away... anyway, sorry again. I came charging in here in a total panic before even having a diagnosis. A few years back, my grandfather passed away from lung cancer. He lived down in Miami; I didn't see him often—actually, I hadn't seen him in years. I feel bad about that now, but maybe that's why I didn't truly "grasp" the reality of it like some of you who have been caring for your loved ones... but now, it seems like everywhere I turn, no matter who I talk to, the word "cancer" pops up. Even that doctor during my ER visit...

Stay strong. Lately, I've been falling asleep to prayer—praying for my family, for everyone who is sick... and even for those I'm at odds with. It helps me keep the resentment at bay...
It feels like I'm just scattering all this negative energy that seems to be swirling around me... but there's no doctor present for that...
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2896 ·
Laura Williams74 said:I’m sorry—I know some of you already have a diagnosis while I’m still waiting on anything official. Looking back, my last post was a bit much... I let panic get the best of me. About six months ago, I had to walk off the job because my heart started racing like crazy, my face went bright red, and I felt this sharp, burning pain under my arm. Basically, I ended up at the ER because it was yet another one of those episodes. That’s when the doctor who saw me first mentioned cancer. She told me, "These symptoms aren't anything to ignore; you need to run tests, because this could be a carcinoid tumor." When I asked where, she just pointed toward my abdomen and said it was somewhere in there...

I've got an ear infection and I'm generally feeling pretty rough... but honestly, reading through your posts has taught me so much. I've realized that this isn't just something that happens to "some doctor"—it's right here among us. It’s better to be proactive and get the testing done rather than just waiting.

Of course, I’m hoping it’s nothing, but as time goes on, I’m losing that certainty. Again, I apologize for coming in hot with the panic before I even have a diagnosis. A few years back, my grandfather passed away from lung cancer. He lived in Miami, and since I hadn't seen him in years, I didn't really "process" it the way many of you did—you all who were right there caring for your loved ones. But now, it feels like everywhere I turn, no matter who I talk to, the word "cancer" pops up... including from that doctor that day...

Hang in there. Lately, I’ve been falling asleep to prayer—praying for my family, for everyone who is sick, and even for the people I'm clashing with. It helps me keep from holding onto any resentment toward them...
It’s almost like I’m trying to disperse all this negative energy surrounding me... but enough about that...

Honey, it’s going to be okay🙂. You’re facing whatever this is head-on, and you’re going to handle it. These symptoms could stem from a thousand different things, and cancer is just one of the worst-case scenarios. Don't spiral. Even if it turns out to be something serious—and it doesn't necessarily have to be cancer to be serious—you’ll deal with it just like anyone else deals with a crisis. Like I said before, the most important thing is not to make it worse by jumping to conclusions. No illness, especially cancer, should be allowed to hijack your life. We have to be the ones in control of the disease, not the other way around. Keep telling yourself that until it becomes your mindset; it's the only way to actually manage whatever comes your way. Right now, you *are* taking control. You’ve started the testing, and as soon as you have answers, you’ll start treatment.
What you can do right now is focus on boosting your immune system immediately. There’s been plenty of discussion on this forum about supplements and ways to strengthen your immunity based on people's personal experiences.
rustyscout31 rustyscout31 Member
11 messages
joined Sep 2006
#2897 ·
slyseal28 said:Angela Wright was actually referring to the community forum. Our forum was specifically designed to be a gathering place for people from all sorts of different cities, small towns, and even different countries... I think you might have misinterpreted her invitation.


Thanks for clearing that up, slyseal28😉. By the way, I really want to offer you my full support because seeing you stay so hopeful somehow makes things a little easier for me too, even though I’m painfully aware that I’m slowly losing my mother (I totally feel you, sis). But if nothing else—since we’ve already tried just about everything—I truly just want to help her enough to make her life as comfortable as possible. I used to always scold her for taking too many pills, but now, poor thing, she’s actually enduring this sneaky, underlying pain just to avoid taking a painkiller, and now that I’m facing a completely different situation, my mom is just... lost, my poor dear. My trusted doctor and several close friends who have lost loved ones to cancer told me that I should give her pain medication so she doesn't have to suffer. My doctor friend actually wouldn't recommend chemotherapy at all because she is just too weak and has such poor bone marrow health (thanks to that damn osteoporosis😠). He feels that chemo would just break her.
The dilemma: do we insist on chemotherapy or just let nature take its course?
And another dilemma: should I let her take Voltaren and Tramadol as needed, or should I strictly dose her tablets? I'm so afraid they won't be strong enough for her very soon...
Oh, the heartache🤷
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2898 ·
rustyscout31 said:Thanks for the insight, slyseal28.😉 Honestly, I want to throw my full support behind you because seeing you hold onto hope actually makes things a little easier for me, too—even though I’m fully aware I’m slowly losing my mother (I feel you, sis). But if nothing else, since we’ve pretty much tried everything already, I just want to help her enough to make her life as easy as possible. I used to guilt her constantly for taking way too many pills, and now the poor woman is actually enduring this sneaky, underlying pain just to avoid taking more medication. Now that I'm facing a completely different situation, my mom is just lost, bless her heart. A doctor I trust, along with several friends whose loved ones passed away from cancer, told me I should give her painkillers so she doesn't have to suffer. My friend, who's a physician, says he wouldn't even recommend chemotherapy because she's simply too frail and has such weak bone marrow (thanks to that damn osteoporosis😠). He thinks chemo would just break her.
The dilemma: push for chemo or just let nature take its course?
And another thing: should I let her take Voltaren and Tramadol as needed, or strictly dose them out? I'm terrified that soon, they won't be strong enough to touch the pain...
God, it's just so hard.🤷

Regarding the pain management, you should call the Pain Management Clinic at the MD Anderson Cancer Center at 713-793-5500 and consult with them on how to handle the dosing. Every case is highly specific and needs an individualized approach.
Zachary Booth3 Zachary Booth3 Member
27 messages
joined Dec 2008
#2899 ·
Amanda Miller69, , I’m right there with you. I agree with everything fighter girl said—it’s wrong to bury someone while they're still breathing. I know this isn't easy for you, and honestly, it's not easy for anyone here. In fact, I know it's damn hard for you, and even if you fled to Mars or tried to crawl out of your own skin, nobody can tell you how much longer your mom has left. Go to her. Be there (regardless of her saying she doesn't want you there), talk to her. It’ll help you, and it’ll help her too.
My dad is going through a brutal time, though I struggle to admit how bad it is to myself, and I do it very slowly. He's wasting away right before our eyes; he looks terrible and just can't talk to us... he simply can't. But I refuse to obsess over what happens tomorrow, next week, or six months from now. I'm just driving myself crazy, and panicking like this doesn't do a single thing to help him.
Hang in there, everyone.
Benjamin Grant6 Benjamin Grant6 Member
36 messages
joined Aug 2008
#2900 ·
Amanda Miller69 said:My dear,
if things were truly as you suggest, I would be the happiest person alive. I spoke with the physician at the Mayo Clinic today, and he made it quite clear that we have to accept that this is simply running its course and there is nothing left to be done. The man reviewed every single test result, so it isn't a matter of me misinterpreting the situation... they deal with dozens of cases just like this every single day. My mother's friend, who is a diagnostic specialist and a close family friend—or at least, someone she trusts implicitly, and certainly someone who wouldn't lie to her child—told me the exact same thing. The malignancy has spread through her entire abdomen; the peritoneum, the liver, the gallbladder, the bladder, the intestines, and the stomach. They haven't even touched the liver or the stomach because she wouldn't survive the procedure. The metastases are systemic... do you honestly think I wouldn't give anything for my mother to recover or for some miracle to occur?
It felt as though they were using her as a "test case" at Johns Hopkins to see what could be achieved, only to avoid us once they realized the outcome... Dr. Meyer even expressed his doubts about whether surgery was even an option, mentioning before the procedure that it wasn't realistically operable.
Please, forgive me and everyone else, but I am at my breaking point and I know I am being harsh...🙂

Your state of mind is entirely understandable, and I don't perceive any rudeness whatsoever in your words. Unfortunately, fighting cancer is a battle against an unpredictable end, and it is nearly impossible to foresee anything... I am certain your family friend would not be dishonest with you. Still, might I suggest seeking a second opinion?

Hang in there and stay strong.

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