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Robert Ruiz9 Robert Ruiz9 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
#821 ·
Angela Wright said:My mom's episodes actually stopped once I brought a priest in to give her the Anointing of the Sick and hear her confession. They sat in her room talking for about two hours, and from that moment on, she just wasn't afraid anymore.
I honestly don't know exactly what he said to her, but she used to mention all the time how our local pastor was a total saint.
If someone is a believer, I really feel like a kind-hearted, gentle priest having a heart-to-heart could help them way more than a psychologist or psychiatrist who basically just "processes" you through an appointment. It would also be just as helpful if she could connect with people going through the exact same thing.
My mom has always been a very sensitive, emotional person—I think I mentioned that somewhere in her profile before.

Thank you so much for the advice, dear Angela! I wish I could "borrow" the priest from your parish, but he's quite a long way from 😳
I agree with you that a gentle priest is definitely the way to go, but Mom is insisting on seeing a psychiatrist instead. I wonder if it's because of a bad experience she had back during Christmas...
She’s actually stayed in touch with some people she met at the hospital, and it’s so lovely that she’s the one encouraging them, even though she's often the one struggling more than they are...

Oh well, I'll figure something out eventually; surely I can find a compassionate priest here in Miami... and who knows, maybe later on she won't be so set on the psychiatrist after all...

Anyway, how are you doing? And how is your mom?
northernfox9 northernfox9 Newcomer
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#822 ·
Peter Johnson4 said:Please—if anyone out there knows exactly what to drink and at what intervals during a 42-day fast... what specific teas, how many times a day, etc.—it is urgent, thank you...

Author Rudolf Breuss: "Healing Cancer and Leukemia, and Other Seemingly Incurable Diseases with Natural Means" or "Total Cancer Therapy." Pick up either of those two books—both describe the therapy in great detail. The book costs about $40, and you can find it in almost any bookstore. Also, check out www.lepina.blog.hr—this man actually applied the therapy and posted all his experiences online. If anything remains unclear, please feel free to send me a private message. Be brave.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#823 ·
Lisa Lopez83 said:Let's hear the questions!
Someone in the family deals with epilepsy. Lecen is currently over in China trying some traditional methods. I'm not sure if they teach things using two different tracks over there—like combining traditional ways with modern medicine.

Look, the meds being imported from China were supposed to wipe the disease out entirely, but all they really did was take the edge off the seizures. They happen less often and aren't as intense. BUT! THE COST!

It's true we aren't relying on barbiturates or those old-school drugs anymore, but still... what do you suggest? Do we revert to the old ways—even though we haven't needed those meds for a long time—and start popping things like phenobarbital and barbiturates again, or do we just keep moving forward?

Seizures are going to happen regardless, one way or another.

You’re saying the seizures are less frequent and milder... so what's the better option then?😳
I don't know everything there is to know about epilepsy as a condition, but from what I understand, every single seizure leaves some kind of damage on the brain. So, in my opinion, the fact that they've become less frequent is actually a huge deal. At this point, it really just comes down to the financial side of things, and that's something only you can decide based on whether you can afford it or not. I can tell you from experience that everything I have goes toward my mom; we've been deep in the red for a long time, and we even cut back on food just to make things easier for her, but that's just how we roll. What I will say is that in this valley of tears, there is always someone willing to step up when things get rough. In the beginning, I found it really hard to accept that kind of help, but I eventually realized that support works both ways—there is just as much nobility in knowing how to accept help as there is in giving it.
Don't be ashamed!
Do whatever you feel is best.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#824 ·
Michelle Hernandez43 said:Thanks for the advice, Angela Wright. I’d love to "borrow" a priest from your parish, but they're a long way from me 😳
I agree that a gentle priest is the best route, but Mom is insisting on a psychiatrist. I can't tell if she's just hung up on a bad experience from last Christmas...
She's staying in touch with some people she met at the hospital, and honestly, it’s great that she’s the one encouraging them when they're actually the ones struggling more than she is...

Whatever, I'll figure something out. I'm sure I can find a mild-mannered priest somewhere in Miami... and who knows, maybe she won't be so set on a psychiatrist later on...

Anyway, how are you doing? How's your mom?

I know there are some really wonderful priests over at the Health of Mary shrine, and honestly, the easiest way to judge a priest's temperament is just to sit through a Mass and listen to the sermon. Also, the Franciscans are probably your best bet since they're such an outreach-focused order—you could head over to St. Francis and get a feel for them.

Mom hasn't changed; she's still doing just as poorly.😢
James Murphy12 James Murphy12 Newcomer
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#825 ·
Thanks, Angela Wright. We aren't trying to be cheap or anything, it’s just that things are tighter now that there's a baby in the mix...
plus, you have to set aside money for the kid too.

Let me just be totally real with you.
I'm the patient here, even if it was a little hard for me to admit that in my first post on this thread.
The attacks are milder now—less intense—and they don't happen nearly as often, which was also true back when I was sticking to traditional medicine. But the catch is, I'm now shelling out over $2,100 a year just for meds. How long can that actually last? How much can one person take?
I'm honestly worried I won't be able to keep this up for much longer.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#826 ·
Lisa Lopez83 said:Thanks, Angela Wright. Look, we aren't ashamed of anything, but we're feeling the squeeze now that there's a baby in the picture...
and you have to set money aside for a child, too.

Let me be completely blunt here.
I am the patient, even if it was a little hard for me to admit that in my first post on this thread.
The seizures are milder now—less intense—and they’ve become infrequent, which was also true back when I was sticking strictly to conventional medicine. But the catch is that I'm now shelling out more than $2,100 a year just for medication. How much longer can this go on? What's the breaking point?
I'm afraid I won't be able to sustain this for much longer.

Yeah, you're in a really tough spot. You know as well as I do that epilepsy is a lifelong battle, and despite having a kid with their own needs, there is an equally massive need for a child to have their father present for as long as possible.
You're going to have to sit down, weigh the pros and cons, and make a call or find some kind of middle ground.
One thing I’d suggest is not getting hung up on this one alternative treatment like it's the only hope out there. And that goes for conventional medicine, too—new drugs hit the market every single day. Keep digging; treat this like a mission if you have to. There is almost certainly something else out there that might be even cheaper and more effective than what you're using now. In our generation, finding answers is so much easier than it was for our parents because of the internet, so use that tool to its full potential.
Back when I used to go with my mom to see a holistic healer, I met plenty of people with epilepsy who found a sense of "peace" through her sessions. They'd go in for a course of treatment every few months and then go seizure-free. They all said that even while staying on their standard prescriptions, their condition improved significantly after the treatments. That's just one example. I truly believe most illnesses stem from a complex web of imbalances, so it makes sense that treating them requires a complex combination of methods.
Just give it some thought.
Elizabeth Collins60 Elizabeth Collins60 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#827 ·
You people are wonderful. Thank you, Angela Wright!!!!! I want to send a huge thank you to every single one of you dealing with similar struggles. It somehow makes the burden feel lighter knowing you aren’t walking this path alone. It is incredibly difficult for me because, unfortunately, I am also a medical professional. I have stared death in the face countless times while working to save others, yet here I am, forced to witness that same familiar suffering and pain within my own family. As a doctor, I know exactly what comes next and exactly how this unfolds—and yet, I am utterly powerless. How can one feel so disillusioned by their own profession?
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#828 ·
Elizabeth Collins60 said:You people are wonderful, thank you Angela Wright!!!!! I can't thank you all enough—everyone here dealing with these same struggles. It honestly makes things feel a little lighter just knowing you aren't alone in this fight. It’s hitting me hard because, unfortunately, I work in medicine myself. I've stared death in the face countless times while working to save others, but now I'm forced to watch this same familiar suffering and pain unfold within my own family. As a doctor, I know exactly what comes next and exactly how this plays out, yet you are left feeling completely powerless. It makes me lose faith in my own profession.

Don't let your profession disappoint you. Medicine is a human discipline, sure, but the most critical decisions and the ultimate outcomes? Those are in the hands of the One above.

I want to say one more thing, or maybe just repeat it for everyone on this forum:
There are plenty of times when medicine throws up its hands in defeat, but God only needs to point a finger to perform a miracle.
John Chase6 John Chase6 Newcomer
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#829 ·
Hey there, friends! I’ve mostly just been lurking and reading lately—honestly, I barely had the strength in my hands to type anything... but I feel a bit more human again today. I guess I'm finding it way harder to deal with this chemo than I did before; maybe my body is just getting a little more worn out, who knows? :-( Anyway, I wanted to tell you all that you guys are such an inspiration to me. And Angela Wright, I find myself thanking you in my head all the time for following God's lead and starting this thread. I truly believe in miracles... they're out there somewhere, waiting for all of us.
Best, Grace Fowler
Harold Richardson4 Harold Richardson4 Member
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#830 ·
Hello everyone, God bless. I truly hope you and your loved ones are holding up as well as can be expected and that you're finding the strength to keep fighting.
My mother is doing significantly better, though we’re currently at a standstill with her third round of chemo because her white blood cell count has plummeted; we have to wait about a week before we can proceed. She has become so thin that, frankly, it’s harrowing to look at—she's down to just 121 pounds. She has only recently started to regain some of her appetite, which is a small mercy. Generally speaking, she seems to be handling the chemotherapy quite well. We also started her on mistletoe injections a couple of weeks ago. Once she finishes the second cycle, we'll be praying for God to guide us. After that, comes the daunting part: the scans, the CTs, and all those tests to determine exactly where we stand. To be honest, the anxiety is overwhelming. Once this entire ordeal is over, we plan to send her to a wellness retreat or a spa to recover. Does anyone have recommendations for a good one? Sending my best to all of you; I read every single one of your posts daily. I am rooting for you all and wishing you endless strength and energy.

Angela Wright, check your private messages.
James Wood302 James Wood302 Newcomer
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#831 ·
Hey everyone

I've been lurking on this forum for a while, but I just stumbled onto this subforum and thread yesterday. Maybe I’ve been subconsciously avoiding it, honestly. The last three years have been nothing but a brutal run of dealing with serious illnesses hitting people close to me.

To get straight to the point, my dad was diagnosed with lung cancer about a year and a half ago. He went through a 30-day radiation cycle, followed by his first round of chemo. That combo actually seemed to work—things were looking up, and he was living his life with a decent amount of optimism. But after finishing eleven rounds of that first chemo, they had to switch him over to a new drug (docetaxel)—basically a second type of chemo. He’s had four rounds of that now, and it hasn't done a damn thing. If anything, the cancer is aggressively progressing.

His latest CT scan was a disaster. When his oncologist saw the results, he basically told us there’s nothing more they can do and that we should focus on palliative care to manage the pain. It’s a lot to swallow. After reading through your posts, I realized there are a lot of smart people here who might be able to answer a few things for me. Any suggestions or advice would be huge.

So, here’s what’s on my mind: 1) Are there specific limits when it comes to using Breuss therapy? I'm thinking mainly about his weight—he’s lost a ton of mass and gotten really weak over the last month—and just his general physical state. 2) He’s been getting treated at the oncology center in Miami. I’ve noticed a lot of people bashing them online, and I'm wondering if anyone can explain why. To me, they always seemed professional and like they knew their stuff. We even sent his scans over to the Mayo Clinic early on to get a second opinion, and both places said the exact same thing. I can't shake the feeling that maybe my family missed something, so I'm trying to find any possible way out. Hope this doesn't sound scattered. I'm not a pessimist; I still believe we need to keep fighting.

Anyway, kudos to the people who started this thread. Wishing you and your families health and good luck. Catch you later.
Carol Sanchez2 Carol Sanchez2 Active Member
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#832 ·
Grace Fowler said:Hey there, dear friends! Honestly, I’ve just been sitting here reading lately because I just didn't have the strength in my hands to type anything out... but now I feel a bit more like a human being again.... somehow I'm finding these chemo treatments a lot harder to handle than before, who knows, maybe my body is just feeling a little more worn out:-(. I just wanted to tell you all that you are such an encouragement to me, and Angela Wright, I frequently thank you in my thoughts for letting God guide you to start this thread. And yes, I truly believe in miracles... they are out there somewhere, close enough for all of us.
Best, Grace


Greetings to you!! People like you are such a huge source of courage and strength for those of us with sick family members, helping us get through these heavy times a little easier. I truly admire you—just keep moving forward! No giving up! Kisses!😘
Carol Sanchez2 Carol Sanchez2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#833 ·
James Wood302 said:Sending my best to everyone!

I’ve been lurking on this forum for a long time, but I only just stumbled upon this specific sub-forum and topic yesterday; honestly, maybe I was subconsciously "avoiding" it because the last three years have been filled with such heavy, heartbreaking experiences dealing with serious illnesses in my immediate family.

To get straight to the point without rambling too much—my dad was diagnosed with lung cancer about a year and a half ago. He went through a full 30-day radiation cycle, and after that, he started his first round of chemotherapy. The radiation and chemo actually seemed to be working at first, which gave us so much hope, and he was living a relatively normal life with a really positive outlook. However, since he had already completed 11 rounds of that first chemo, they had to switch him over to a different medication (docetaxel)—basically a second type of chemo. He’s had four rounds of that now, and unfortunately, it hasn't shown any results whatsoever; in fact, the disease is progressing rapidly.

His most recent CT scan was devastating, and when the oncologist saw the results, he basically told us there wasn't anything more that could be done and that we should focus on pain management for the rest of his time. It is so incredibly hard to wrap my head around that, and after reading through all your posts here, I realized there are so many brilliant people in this community who might be able to help answer a few questions for me. Truly, any suggestions or advice you might have would be more than welcome.

So, here is what I'm wondering: 1) Are there certain limitations when it comes to applying the Breuss therapy? I'm thinking specifically regarding body weight (he has lost so much weight and become so weak in just the last month), and just his overall physical condition. 2) He was being treated at the oncology department in Miami. I've noticed quite a bit of criticism directed toward them online, so I'm curious if anyone can explain why people feel that way? To us, they always seemed very professional and highly competent. We even sent his records to the Mayo Clinic early on just to get a second opinion, and both places were in total agreement. Now, I'm haunted by this nagging feeling that our family missed a crucial step or an opportunity, so I'm trying to find any possible way out. I hope you understand where I'm coming from and that this doesn't sound scattered—I'm not a pessimist, and I still firmly believe we have to keep fighting.

Finally, a huge thank you to the people who started this thread. I wish you and your loved ones nothing but health and happiness. Best regards, talk soon.


Regarding the Breuss method, the best thing to do is to read his book very carefully and precisely (which you probably already have). Personally, I feel that applying that kind of therapy to someone whose body is already emaciated isn't ideal. It feels like it might just cause extra suffering. But, if the situation is such that there truly is no other way and Breuss is the final hope, then go for it. Of course, you should also look into other possibilities—like bioenergy or the Johanna Budwig Therapy...
At the end of the day, what matters most is what your father wants.

I don't have personal experience with the hospital in Miami, so Angela Wright might know more about that, but as for that crushing feeling that your family missed something... please know that it's a completely normal feeling. We all carry that weight. Every single day, I ask myself what else I could have done or if I did enough. Just by reaching out to this topic, you are showing how wise and determined you are to find anything that might help you and your family. The most important thing is that you are there by his side, and remember: no giving up!!! 👍
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#834 ·
James Wood302 said:So, here’s the main thing I'm wondering about: 1) Are there any actual limits when it comes to applying the Breuss therapy? My main concern is his weight—he’s dropped a ton and looks incredibly weak after just this last month—as well as his overall physical condition.

You need to wait at least six months from the date of your last chemo session.
I went through treatment at the Mayo Clinic in the oncology department. I’ve noticed a lot of people around here throwing shade at them, and honestly, I’m trying to wrap my head around why. From where I was sitting, they seemed incredibly professional—they knew exactly what they were doing. Early on, we even sent all our test results over to Johns Hopkins just to get a second opinion, and both teams came to the exact same conclusions every single time. Now, I can't shake this nagging feeling that my family and I might have missed a step or failed to act on something crucial. I'm searching for any possible alternative or way out, and I hope you guys don't think I'm being irrational. I'm not a pessimist; I still believe we have to keep fighting this fight.

My experience with the Mayo Clinic was an absolute disaster, so I wouldn't dream of taking anyone in my family there if they needed an oncologist.
When I was just two months old, I ended up dehydrated. To make matters worse, the doctors at the hospital basically messed everything up; they were so obsessed with trying to prove I was actually sick that their own meddling just made my condition spiral. Honestly, if it hadn't been for my grandmother—who was one hell of a spunky, tough woman—I would've been stuck in that cycle forever. She took matters into her own hands, scooped me right out of that hospital bed, and brought me home, saving me from any more unnecessary suffering.

My grandmother dealt with arteriosclerosis. One day she bumped her finger, which turned bruised and purple, and of course, the doctors immediately jumped to conclusions, insisting it was gangrene. Then, while she was still at the hospital, the discoloration actually faded, so they pivoted and decided it wasn't gangrene after all—but instead insisted on performing a bypass on her leg because they claimed the limb was basically a lost cause anyway. They opened her up only to realize they couldn't complete the procedure because of her diabetes; apparently, they hadn't bothered to check her full medical history before starting the surgery. To make matters worse, they stitched her up poorly, leaving the wound much higher than necessary, and it ended up getting infected right there in the hospital. When she tried to protest the negligence, they had the nerve to tell her, "Why are you making such a fuss? They’re going to have to amputate that leg soon anyway, and it won't be long before they have to take the other one too." Naturally, she took matters into her own hands and walked out of that hospital. She treated herself using traditional home remedies and lived to walk firmly on both feet for another 15 years until the day she passed away.

My grandfather was lying on the floor of the hospital on his way to the restroom, and for an entire hour, nobody even bothered to check on him. When a nurse finally did stumble upon him, she didn't offer any sympathy—she just absolutely tore into him. She started yelling about why on earth he thought he could wander off alone and why he wasn't smart enough to wait for help. The poor man had been pressing that call button repeatedly for sixty minutes, but the staff just kept staring at the TV or gossiping over coffee. He was struggling with prostate issues, but he was too proud and dignified to admit he needed help with his business. By the time we found him, he’d broken his nose and split his lip from the fall, and nobody had even bothered to clean the wounds; my mom had to do it herself when she arrived. Honestly, whenever I went to visit, the nurses would just sit in their lounge, acting like they were on a break, sipping coffee and watching soap operas. If I actually approached them to ask for help because he was soaked and needed changing, they’d just roll their eyes and give me this attitude, basically telling me, "Ugh, do it yourself, I'm not touching that."
It’s just a shame that those were his final days. He really didn't deserve an end like that.😢

Two years ago, my uncle was in a horrific motorcycle accident. He was thrown from the bike and suffered massive head trauma and severe brain bruising. When he first regained consciousness, it was blindingly obvious he had sustained a major neurological injury, yet they didn't bother with an emergency CT scan. By the very next day, he started showing his first clear neurological deficits—symptoms so blatant that even I, a total layman, could see exactly what was happening. Still, no CT scan. By the second day, they finally rushed him into imaging, and what did they find? A massive edema. Then it was Mannitol, then more treatments, and eventually, he was shoved into a shock room. You could hear the doctors being dismissive, saying things like, "Doctor, how does he look? What do you think?" and getting replies like, "Oh, don't worry, he’ll be fine, things will turn around." An hour later? Flatline. Just a steady, continuous beep.

Thanks, but I wouldn't take any more risks there myself; you have to give credit where it's due to the professionals...👎

Look, those are just my experiences with the Mayo Clinic.

What kind of lung cancer is your dad fighting?

I’m truly sorry things have reached this point, but please don't lose hope—hope is the last thing to die. I know coming to terms with the end is incredibly hard, but you have to look at the reality of what it means to be diagnosed with lung cancer specifically. Try to focus all your energy on maximizing his quality of life—keeping him comfortable, minimizing his pain, and making sure he’s surrounded by family in the comfort of his own home. Don't let him see you breaking down. There will be plenty of time for tears later; for now, just try to be grateful for every single day you still have together. Talk about the good times and the memories you've built. Use this window of time to tell him things you've never said, to offer forgiveness, or to ask for it. You have to remember that this man lived a full life; he worked, he provided, he raised you... those are massive achievements, and without that foundation, life feels wasted. In the end, everything boils down to that.
Partings always feel too early and far too heavy, but they are a natural part of the cycle, and every day we live is just one day closer to our own end.
Being able to face these kinds of illnesses and accept mortality is the mark of a mature adult, and whether we were born with that capacity or are learning it through this hardship, we all eventually get there. My mom once told me after my grandmother passed away that she only felt truly grown up once she had lost both her mother and father. That's just life, and it's the hardest school there is.

Keep fighting!
Elizabeth Collins60 Elizabeth Collins60 Member
32 messages
joined Jul 2007
#835 ·
Ever since things took a turn for the worse, I’ve been here every single day. It’s where I find my strength, somehow. As Angela Wright says, you have to stay positive and be grateful for every extra day you get. Yesterday was brutal—I honestly had already played out the worst-case scenario in my head—but today? Today is actually alright. We’re sitting here at the Mayo Clinic, talking and laughing about old times. In fact, we’ve been doing this for a year and a half now. Ever since we got that diagnosis, we’ve spent an incredible amount of time together, grabbing coffee, going on trips... though lately, those trips are just walks down hospital hallways. She’s in the hospital now, but she goes home tomorrow... and if there isn't anything else to toast with, then we'll toast with this.
I’m noticing that everyone seems to be hunting for some kind of alternative cure. Speaking as a physician, I have to disagree. I don't believe all these various methods or special concoctions can offer much help once conventional medicine has run its course. They might make sense for prevention while you're still healthy, but in a situation like this?
slyseal28 slyseal28 Member
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joined Mar 2007
#836 ·
Elizabeth Collins60 said:I’ve noticed everyone here is searching for an alternative solution. Speaking as a physician, I have to disagree; I don't believe all these various methods and concoctions can offer much help once conventional medicine has reached its limit. They might make sense as preventative measures while you're still healthy, but in a situation like this...

I feel compelled to respond, though please don't take this the wrong way:
I am not looking for "alternatives" per se, but rather allies—something to help my husband bolster an immune system that has been undeniably compromised by conventional treatments.

My husband has already completed six cycles of Doxorubicin and Holoxan. Following that, he underwent 27 radiation sessions plus 10 using conformal technique. Next week, he begins a new chemotherapy regimen: Dacarbazine and Holoxan, cycle 4.

While he was undergoing chemo, I supported him with propolis, a strict diet (plenty of vegetables and fruit, lots of fish, plenty of olive oil, and lean proteins like turkey, veal, and steak), and even took him to see a bioenergy practitioner. The result of all that effort? His blood counts never once dipped into the danger zone. Meanwhile, his doctor had explicitly told us to expect terrible results.

It is my belief that the combination of both conventional and complementary approaches is what kept him afloat. I don't subscribe to the idea that you must strictly separate the two. In my view, they can work in tandem to support those who are suffering. So, I cannot agree with your assessment that alternative methods are only useful for prevention when one is still healthy.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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joined Feb 2007
#837 ·
Elizabeth Collins60 said:Ever since things took a turn for the worse, I’ve been here every single day; somehow, this place gives me strength. Like Angela Wright says, you have to find ways to be happy and grateful for every extra day you get. Yesterday was brutal—I already had the end playing out in my head—but today is actually okay. We’re sitting here at the Mayo Clinic just talking and laughing about old times. Honestly, we’ve been doing this for the last year and a half, ever since we first heard the diagnosis. We spend so much time together, grabbing coffee, going on little trips... though lately, those trips are mostly just within the hospital walls. She’s in the hospital now, but heading home tomorrow... if there isn't anything else to toast to, at least we have this.
I'm noticing everyone here is hunting for some kind of alternative solution. Speaking as a doctor, I have to disagree. In my view, when conventional medicine doesn't have a cure, all these different methods and various herbal concoctions aren't going to do much to help. They might make sense for prevention while you're healthy, but in a situation like this...

I don't agree with you either. Don't forget that long before modern medicine existed, people treated themselves—more or less successfully—using what we call "alternative" methods today. It surprises me a bit that after experiencing the "other side" yourself, you haven't felt the urge to embrace anything that might actually do some good.
Actually, I resent modern medicine for treating a human being merely as a patient, or more specifically, as an organ or a disease that falls under a specialist's narrow purview. It’s a proven fact that stress or mental struggles can trigger physical headaches. Alternative philosophy suggests that a person exists on multiple levels: body, soul, spirit... a disturbance in one of these "bodies" can cause damage to any of the others. Conventional medicine tends to cut or remove the symptom, usually focusing strictly on the physical body, but it rarely addresses the root cause. It is precisely because of this limited perspective and the stubborn refusal to accept ancient, foundational wisdom upon which great civilizations were built that medicine stagnates. It still lacks answers to many questions, such as why cancer happens. Cancer is simply the body's response to one or more imbalances manifesting within the WHOLE being.
I wrote about my own experiences and insights regarding alternative approaches near the beginning of this thread, so if you're interested, feel free to scroll back. I really don't feel like repeating myself right now.😁

Hang in there and keep fighting the fight.
Elizabeth Collins60 Elizabeth Collins60 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#838 ·
slyseal28 said:I feel compelled to respond (without being angry):
I am not looking for "alternatives" to replace medicine; I am looking for allies to help my husband rebuild an immune system that conventional medicine has clearly compromised.

My husband completed six cycles of Doxorubicin and Holoxan. Following that, he underwent 27 radiation treatments plus 10 sessions using conformal technique. Next week, he begins a new chemotherapy regimen: Dacarbazin and Holoxan—cycle four.

Throughout his chemo, I supported him with propolis, a clean diet (plenty of vegetables and fruit, lots of fish, olive oil, and lean proteins like turkey, veal, and steak), and even took him to see a bioenergy practitioner. The result? His blood counts never once dropped to a concerning level. And the doctor? He fully expected his blood work to be terrible.

It is my belief that the combination of alternative support and conventional medicine is what pulled him through. I don't believe in strictly separating the two. In fact, I think they can only serve the patient when they work in tandem. So, I disagree with your assertion that alternative methods are only useful for prevention when we are healthy.

I certainly didn't intend for you to feel called out or forced to defend your choices. Eating well—consuming vegetables, fruit, and olive oil—isn't "alternative medicine." That is simply basic nutrition required every single day, not just when a crisis hits. As for bioenergy? I'm not entirely sure what that entails, but if it helps manage stress, then fine—though ideally, one would address stress before the illness arrives. When I say "no," I am not suggesting these things are harmful; I am simply pointing out that despite all these powerful "alternatives," people still die of cancer. It won't hurt, but does it actually help? Perhaps it mostly benefits those left behind, giving them the illusion of control so they can escape that soul-crushing sense of helplessness that eats at us daily. From a medical standpoint, the idea that cancer is merely a systemic reaction to some other imbalance is highly debatable. Cancer is, first and foremost, a disease, not a reaction... a fact documented in countless American medical textbooks. What we all know intimately here is that this is a brutal fight for every single one of us and our loved ones.
slyseal28 slyseal28 Member
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Elizabeth Collins60 said:I didn't mean to call anyone out or make you feel like you had to defend yourselves. Eating well—plenty of vegetables, fruit, olive oil—that isn't "alternative medicine." That’s just basic nutrition, something you should be doing every single day, not just waiting until a serious illness hits. As for bioenergy, I'm not entirely sure what that entails, but if it helps manage stress, then fine, provided it's used before a disease takes hold. When I say "no," I don't mean these things are bad or harmful, but unfortunately, despite all these powerful "alternatives," people are still dying from cancer. It won't hurt, sure, but is it actually effective? Probably more for those who just need to feel like they're taking action, to stave off that gut-wrenching sense of helplessness that eats away at us daily. From a medical standpoint, the idea that cancer is merely a reaction to some systemic imbalance is highly debatable. Cancer is primarily a disease, not a reaction... that’s clearly documented in any standard American medical textbook. What we all know here, though, is how brutal this fight is for us and our loved ones.

I don't feel targeted; I just happen to disagree with your perspective... No hard feelings, obviously.
My take is simply that alternative approaches and conventional medicine ought to work in tandem. And if we're categorizing things, I'd argue that proper nutrition falls under that "alternative" umbrella too...

At the end of the day, we're all just trying to find the best path for our families. Some people put their absolute faith in modern medicine alone; others lean entirely into alternative routes; and some believe the combination is the only way forward. Who’s actually right? It's hard to say. Ultimately, I think it matters most that we believe in something and do whatever we can to help ourselves and those we love.
ruggednomad182 ruggednomad182 Newcomer
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James Wood302;9276690 said:Hey everyone, hope you're all doing well.

)Are there any specific limits when it comes to using the Brus therapy? I'm mostly wondering about weight

You need to wait at least six months after the last round of radiation therapy. As for his weight loss, honestly, it doesn't matter at all. If someone is that weak, this therapy might actually be exactly what he needs—it provides enough essential nutrients to keep him going and potentially even help him regain some strength.

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