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Thomas Peterson46 Thomas Peterson46 NewcomerOP
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joined Feb 2006
#41 ·
Casey Ramirez2 said:I haven't stopped by here in a while, and unfortunately, I'm a bit pressed for time tonight.
To put it simply: Sister Elvira is a wonderful woman, but there are definitely better options out there...
The community at SUSRET is an American group and feels much more grounded than what you find at Cenaccoll!

I really have to head out right now, but I'll be sure to share more of my thoughts tomorrow or sometime soon..

Thanks🙏 😘
Ethan Smith76 Ethan Smith76 Newcomer
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#42 ·
tinitrus said:Great topic! :-) Honestly, a few years back here in the States, there was this huge debate between people who thought rehab centers were the answer and those pushing for methadone therapy along with needle exchange programs (you know, the "harm reduction" crowd who argued it’s better to minimize damage). Personally, I lean toward the second group. Isn't it better to provide someone with clean supplies to protect them from Hepatitis or HIV, and then, if—and that's a big if—they actually decide to get clean, move them toward methadone? That said, you can't ignore how much a user's personality shifts over time; that chemistry they're putting in their system fundamentally rewires the brain (not to mention every other bodily system).
Rehab centers end up feeling a lot like long-term psychiatric hospitalizations, which is something modern psychiatry is trying to move away from. But hey, for some people, those communities actually work. Even if they slip up later, at least they had a little breather to reset. Though, God forbid they go right back to their old dose after a break—that’s a recipe for an overdose. And honestly? I feel like all those public service announcements and educational campaigns just end up making the lifestyle look interesting to kids, don't they?

I have a question for you. What makes you so sure that these rehab centers are just like long-term hospital stays? And why the "unfortunately"? Have you actually been through one of these places, or are you just guessing? Because let me tell you, nobody ever truly gets "cured" in a psych ward or through methadone. It’s just a way for the government to keep addicts under control rather than actually treating them. Tell me, have you ever actually heard of anyone being truly cured by using methadone?
Thomas Peterson46 Thomas Peterson46 NewcomerOP
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#43 ·
Ethan Smith76 said:I have a question for you. How can you be so sure that rehab centers are just like any other hospital stay (sadly)? What do you mean by "sadly"? Have you actually been through a residential program yourself, or are you just guessing? In my experience, nobody ever truly gets clean just by being on methadone in a psychiatric ward. It feels more like the government is just keeping addicts under control rather than actually treating them. Tell me, have you ever actually heard of someone getting cured using methadone?

Fair enough, but why exactly do you think his point is flawed?
Give me some arguments!😉
Ethan Smith76 Ethan Smith76 Newcomer
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#44 ·
Sandra Hernandez13 said:Alright then, why exactly do you think his argument doesn't hold water?
Give me some actual reasoning here!😉

Look, there's a massive difference between institutions designed for harm reduction and those actually focused on recovery. What he’s describing is just damage control, and let’s be real—nobody ever gets clean through damage control.
Methadone is just a substitute for heroin; how on earth are you supposed to get cured that way?
It’s like trying to treat an alcoholic who can't stop drinking brandy😬 by handing them prescription wine🤣 instead.
Ethan Smith76 Ethan Smith76 Newcomer
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#45 ·
I’m honestly surprised we haven't heard from Vilko yet regarding his own journey through addiction.🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Olivia Martinez20 Olivia Martinez20 Member
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#46 ·
Sandra Hernandez13 said:Honestly, I believe the core of any effective addiction education—and its primary promotional tool—should move away from those tired "drugs are bad" clichés 🙄 and instead focus on vividly illustrating the actual physiological and psychological fallout that follows use. If a young person were to read about the inevitable crash that follows two or three hours of artificial euphoria, I highly doubt they would ever even consider touching the stuff. Furthermore, we need to cultivate an awareness in youth regarding the collateral damage drugs inflict on the family unit; we must show them how substance abuse doesn't just destroy their own lives, but devastates everyone around them too...

You hit the nail on the head.

The standard drug prevention programs here in America are built upon an anachronistic foundation of "all drugs are evil" and "just say no," a philosophy that is frankly patronizing and utterly ineffective. The undeniable proof of this failure is the steady rise in the number of young people experimenting with or actively using substances.

Modern addiction prevention strategies rely on providing precise information regarding substances—detailing both the highs and the lows—so that individuals can make an informed choice about whether or not to engage with drugs. In several other developed nations, the Government actually sponsors informative services (for instance, "talk to Frank" is one such model) that offer free, anonymous data on various substances.

The crux of the matter is that those who ultimately decide to use drugs (and let’s be realistic, an advertisement featuring some guy with a pathetic voice whining about "lost childhoods and wasted lives—just say NO!" will NOT stop them) need to have access to accurate (scientifically verified and substantiated) information about how these chemicals affect the brain, rather than being fed moralistic fairy tales. That is how you appeal to a person's rational mind and actually discourage use.

Moreover, this approach clearly distinguishes between casual use and actual abuse. It acknowledges the reality that certain substances aren't as inherently destructive as others, rejecting the "all drugs are evil" fallacy. It also recognizes the distinction between recreational use—where users are often high-functioning, productive members of society rather than the "junkies" or "failures" depicted in media—and substance abuse, which is fundamentally no different from the misuse of any other substance, such as alcohol.

As long as the face of our addiction prevention efforts remains hypocrites like Jadranka Kosor and Bernardica Juretic—who, without a shred of self-reflection, insist all drugs are pure evil—we will fail. Kids see through this immediately because they experiment, smoke a joint, and realize they haven't turned into heroin addicts overnight. In other words, children know when they are being lied to right to their faces, causing them to lose all credibility with authority figures, even when those figures are telling the truth. Consequently, the number of addicts and experimenting youths can only continue to climb.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#47 ·
There’s supposed to be some kind of treatment for heroin addiction, at least according to what I was reading.
Ethan Smith76 Ethan Smith76 Newcomer
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#48 ·
jadetinker85 said:I mean, there’s supposed to be some kind of medication to help with heroin addiction, or at least that's what I read somewhere.

http://www.nytimes.com/archive/2004/health/article.html

Look, that isn't a "cure" for addiction, and honestly, anyone who actually knows anything about this stuff—including Sandra Hernandez13 and everyone else in the know—can tell you that. In most cases, people are basically forced to take that medication, and even if they choose to take it, once they stop, the underlying addiction is still right there waiting for them.
The real issue is that once you've taken something like methadone, you absolutely cannot touch any other opioids, otherwise you're looking at a serious risk of an overdose.
That’s why when someone takes their dose, they know they can't use anything else that day. But then, the very next day? They might just slip a pill under their tongue and spit it out later to avoid getting caught... see how easy it is to cheat the system?
Thomas Peterson46 Thomas Peterson46 NewcomerOP
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#49 ·
Scott Smith said:drugs are bad (but kids listening to that actually KNOW they aren't, because they try a joint themselves and realize they didn't instantly become heroin addicts—basically, kids know they're being lied to right to their faces, which makes them lose trust in everything those people say, even when they're telling the truth). The number of addicts and young people experimenting with drugs can only go one way: up.

YES,
but kids don't start using just because they know they're being lied to,
it's also driven by curiosity which—even if it sounds unbelievable to some—
is actually triggered by those "drugs are bad, just say no" type commercials.
Being pretty young myself, when I really think about it, those "just say no" ads actually spark this urge in me to try this so-called "evil,"
just to see for myself why some people love it and why others find it so destructive...
That’s how most young people think, and we all know there's an age where "forbidden fruit" is the sweetest fruit, which is exactly what these kinds of ads subconsciously encourage. It's high time someone pulled that idiot with his equally idiotic little jingle off the airwaves and started actually addressing this issue, which is unfortunately becoming a massive problem here in America.
darkjackal70 darkjackal70 Member
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#50 ·
Sandra Hernandez13 said:YES,
but kids don't start using drugs just because they know these people are lying to their faces;
it’s also driven by a sense of curiosity which—even if it seems unbelievable to some—
is actually triggered by those "drugs are evil, just say no" style commercials.
I’m still quite young, so when I really think about it, those "just say no" and "drugs are bad" ads only fuel my desire to try this so-called "evil,"
just to see for myself why it feels great for some and terrible for others...
That’s how most young people think, and we all know that at a certain age, even later on, the main driver is that "forbidden fruit is the sweetest" mentality, which ads of that caliber unconsciously encourage. So, it is high time someone removed that idiot and his equally idiotic jingle from our TV screens and started actually addressing the issue, which unfortunately is becoming an even bigger problem here in America.

I can only offer you my own experience and that of a few friends as an example. Personally, I didn't touch anything until I turned 20... absolutely nothing. Even weed and cigarettes disgust me; I find them repulsive, so I haven't touched them then and I never will. Until 20, I would get drunk here and there, but nothing excessive. I've never used heroin and I never will because those kinds of narcotics don't attract me one bit. As far as synthetics go, I've tried almost everything—Ecstasy, speed, coke, pure MDMA, and various cocktails—but I never became addicted to it. If I wanted to, I took it; if I didn't, I didn't. And that was that. It stays that way even today; if the urge hits, fine, but otherwise, I have no need for it.

Regarding the problems of today... the biggest issue is simply that chemicals have become cheap. When I was a kid of 15, my crew and I would just get buzzed on beer in the local parks. Today's kids are slamming synthetics because they are easy to get and inexpensive. You can pick up some Ecstasy for maybe ten bucks... or speed for eighty...$33 they scrape money together all week just to get wasted on the weekend, because the high lasts longer and hits harder than alcohol, and all they care about is being in that headspace and feeling good. Back in the day, prices were much higher, the quality was better, and it was a bit more of an investment. Nowadays, everyone is doing it everywhere, and that is the reality. Besides, more people die from the consequences of smoking and alcoholism than from drug use, and that is the reality.
Casey Ramirez2 Casey Ramirez2 Newcomer
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#51 ·
Alright, like I promised, I'm jumping back in tonight to try and add some perspective to all these heavy questions, answers, and debates going on.

Sandra Hernandez13: You’re asking about walking issues and stuff like that. Well, look, personally I never touched heroin, but I’ve seen enough people who did to know exactly what you're talking about. It’s tragic, really—most people who’ve been hooked for a long time, especially if they were riding synthetic stuff and cocaine, end up with permanent psychological issues like tics, balance problems, or trouble concentrating. Usually, the heroin addicts have more physiological stuff going on—mostly wrecked veins that mess with their motor skills, hands, and legs.
I mean, I deal with memory lapses, focus issues, and sometimes my coordination feels just... off. So yeah, it's a real thing.

There’s one other thing I really need to hammer home here: it is honestly heartbreaking how today's kids don't even hit rehab centers until after they've spent years frying their brains on synthetics, only to finally reach the stage where they have to move down to heroin just to become "real" junkies!
Where's the catch? The catch is that synthetic drugs PERMANENTLY wreck your brain, and they do it way faster and much more violently than heroin ever could. How big of a deal this is for recovery is proven by the fact that experts are seriously considering splitting addiction programs into two groups: one for the "classic" heroin addicts and another for those who ended up there after burning through ecstasy, speed, and all that other garbage, including cocaine.
And you know what? It's actually way easier to fix a "classic" addict! Mostly because of my years of experience, but also because once their brain gets cleaned out for about six months, it actually returns to its normal chemical structure and starts functioning like a healthy person again—aside from whatever lingering psychological issues or permanent damage I mentioned earlier.
Unfortunately, for those who "only" do the synthetic stuff, the damage is already so deep by the time they hit the heroin stage that they can't function normally without antidepressants, and let's be real—that isn't actually "treatment."

And right there lies the answer to all the endless arguments about methadone, various pills, or even those crazy electroshock treatments! The only real way out is group psychotherapy after at least six months of being clean—not even an aspirin.
Sure, the pills help during the initial detox phase, but personally, before I started methadone therapy, I was doing okay both at work and socially. But once I started mixing it with actual drugs for a few months, I completely fell apart, both physically and mentally.
Anyway, I eventually got clean using Hep, and then I headed off to a residential facility.
It was Elvira's community, the one your friend was at. Their whole vibe is basically prayer and manual labor—like working with a shovel—to keep you positive and engaged! Don't be surprised if he acts like that. The only snag is that the whole program is designed so that once people leave, they head straight for a totally NEW environment. They run away from anything that reminds them of drugs like the devil from a crucifix!

Sadly, most people can't pull that off. That's why the program at zajednica susret is way better suited for our situation, not to mention the fact that all these facilities are located right here in the States and run by locals.
The approach is built on group therapy, finding common ground with the family, and REINTEGRATING into your old life in a stable mental state—one where you aren't constantly tempted to spiral back down. Plus, in every major US city, there are counseling centers where the transition continues even after you leave rehab, giving you full support from therapists and other former addicts.

In theory, all these programs have merit. And even though I personally never thought I'd be the type to go to a residential center (GROSS!!!) and essentially "admit" to everyone that I'm an addict (TOTAL FAILURE!!), in the end, I'm just glad I was desperate enough—but smart enough—to actually do it!
Because seriously, what's one or two or three years compared to a whole lifetime? And I've still got my whole life ahead of me...

Anyway, I didn't plan on writing such a novel... if anyone has questions, I'm happy to answer them!

Just one more note: you can't help someone if they don't want to be helped, and that's just the cold, hard truth. Also, the success rate for treatment before age 27 is three times lower than it is for older people... it all comes down to maturity, I guess.
It's just a shame that kids nowadays fry their brains on synthetics first and then move on to heroin. They would be so much healthier and have way better chances at recovery if they just started with heroin right out of the gate!
I mean, sure, it’d be ideal if they just stayed stuck in some hazy, dreamlike state—you know, like they're constantly under the influence of something like Xanax or just lost in a permanent fog—for the rest of their lives, but let's be real... that almost never actually happens.
Thomas Peterson46 Thomas Peterson46 NewcomerOP
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#52 ·
Casey Ramirez2 said:As I mentioned earlier, I wanted to jump back in tonight and offer a few thoughts on these heavy questions and all the intense debate going on here.

Regarding those issues with walking or balance—I never personally touched heroin, but I’ve seen enough people go through it to know what you're talking about. Unfortunately, most long-term users, especially those heavily into synthetics or cocaine, end up dealing with lasting psychological issues like tremors, balance problems, or trouble concentrating. Heroin addicts usually face more physiological hurdles, mostly involving damaged veins that mess with their motor skills and coordination in their hands and legs.
I actually deal with some memory lapses, focus issues, and occasional coordination hiccups myself. It's just how things are.

There is one more thing worth highlighting: it’s honestly heartbreaking that today’s youth often don't end up in rehab centers until they’ve spent years spiraling on synthetics, only finally hitting that stage where they have to transition to heroin and essentially become "classic" addicts.
Where's the catch? The issue is that synthetics permanently damage the brain much faster and more destructively than heroin does. You can see how significant this is by the fact that many treatment programs are now being split into two categories: one for "classic" heroin addicts and another for those who arrived there via pills, speed, or cocaine.
And you know what? It’s actually much easier to help a "classic" addict recover! Based on my years of experience, after about six months of being clean, their brain chemistry tends to reset to a more normal baseline, allowing them to function relatively normally—even if they still deal with some lingering mental fog or the permanent physical issues I mentioned earlier.
Sadly, for those who spent their time solely on synthetics, the damage is often so deep by the time they reach the heroin stage that they can't function without antidepressants, which, by definition, isn't really "recovery."

That's the answer to all the debates regarding methadone, various pills, or even electroshock therapy. The only true path is group psychotherapy after at least six months of being completely clean—not even an aspirin.
Of course, medication helps during the initial withdrawal phase, but personally, I was functioning quite well at work and in my social life before I started using methadone. Once I began mixing it with other drugs for a few months, I fell apart both physically and mentally.
In the end, though, I managed to get clean from the heavies and eventually entered a residential program.
It was Elvira's community where your friend stayed. Their approach is built on prayer and hard manual labor to keep everyone positive and active! Don't be surprised if he seems different. The only catch is that the whole goal is for people to move into a totally NEW environment afterward, running as far away from anything that reminds them of drugs as possible.

Unfortunately, that doesn't work for everyone. That’s why the programs at the community center here in the States are often better suited for our situation, not to mention the fact that most major facilities are located right here in the US and run by local professionals.
Their method focuses on group therapy, rebuilding communication with the family, and successfully reintegrating into your old life in a stable mental state—so you don't fall back down. Plus, in most major US cities, there are outpatient clinics where the rehabilitation process continues even after you leave the facility, providing full support from therapists and others who have walked the same path.

In principle, every program has its merits. Even though I personally never thought I'd ever have to check into a facility (which felt terrifying!) or have to admit to anyone that I was an addict (which felt like a total defeat), I'm actually glad I was desperate enough—and smart enough—to do exactly that!
Because what's a couple of years compared to the rest of my life? And I have a lot of life left ahead of me...

Anyway, I didn't mean to write such a long post... if anyone has any questions, I'm happy to answer them!

Just a quick thought: you can't really help someone if they aren't willing to help themselves—it’s a tough reality to accept. Also, from what I understand, treatment success rates for those under 27 are about three times lower than for older adults. It all seems to come down to a person's level of maturity.
It's honestly tragic how many kids today start by frying their brains with heavy chemicals before ever touching anything else. They’d likely be much healthier and have a far better shot at recovery if they just started with something like marijuana instead.
Of course, the gold standard is staying away from everything and sticking to water and peace of mind for life, but we all know that rarely happens in the real world...

😘 🙏
Michelle Robinson56 Michelle Robinson56 Newcomer
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#53 ·
Here’s the situation...
I’m dealing with an ex-boyfriend, and honestly, I have no idea what to make of any of this. I am desperately asking for help—any advice at all, no matter how small, would mean the world to me. He spent years deep in addiction—heroin, cocaine, speed, weed—basically anything he could get his hands on. He was smoking and snorting heroin, and obviously injecting it too, for years on end. After all that, he supposedly quit the heroin (he was in a coma for a year and a half), but now he’s using heptanone and can’t go a single day without smoking weed (at least two joints). When he was on heroin, he did absolutely anything to fund his habit... and I mean *anything*. I didn't enter his life until after he had allegedly cleaned himself up, so I don't know what his life looked like before me, but I know he was a mess. He would disappear from home for long stretches, hung out with a shady crowd, and just constantly made terrible decisions. From what I could tell, I was the first "normal" girl he’d been with—someone who wasn't a user, though I'd occasionally smoke a joint with him (thank God, not anymore!). Now here is the problem: we broke up a year ago. Since then, I haven't seen or heard from him because we live in different cities, but rumors keep reaching me. People are saying he suddenly came into a massive amount of money and has completely changed. He’s back to hanging out with that same sketchy crew and going out constantly (which he never used to do). What confuses me most is his style; he’s suddenly very well-dressed. When we were together, he dressed normally, but when he was heavily using heroin and dealing, he actually dressed quite sharply too. It feels strange—I read somewhere that people do that to hide the truth, thinking that if they look polished, they won't be seen as just another junkie. Maybe I'm just overthinking this, but it’s eating at me. I keep wondering if I should try to go back, try to fix things, and help him, even though everyone tells me to run for the hills if I don't want my life to turn into a living hell. On top of that, I have a question: is it possible he pushed me away on purpose just so he wouldn't "corrupt" me? When we broke up, he was dead drunk, crying, telling me he would ruin me if I stayed, and that he didn't deserve me—all while insisting he loved me. And one more somewhat intimate question: during sex, he would sometimes lose his erection suddenly and couldn't finish. Is that a side effect of the heptanone, or is it because he never truly stopped using drugs, or is it some lasting consequence? Who knows? Please, I need help. This is incredibly important to me. I want to help him, but I have no idea how.

p.s. If anyone can describe what a needle mark looks like... I saw a photo where someone had tiny dark spots on their arms—sort of bluish-black dots. Is that what it looks like?
HELP ME!!!!!
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#54 ·
you clearly have absolutely nothing going on in your life
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#55 ·
If he passed out, it's probably because he was on some heavy stuff
casualraven43 casualraven43 Member
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#56 ·
It’s honestly unbelievable... I keep reading this and I just can't stop shaking my head.😲
If you truly are the person everyone says you are, then I have to wonder what on earth is going through your mind right now. Seriously...
The guy is pure trouble—a total wreck. It's blindingly obvious that his only priority is himself; he intentionally pushed you away, made the choice to sink into drugs, and settled into a life of complete chaos. So, tell me, what exactly are you hoping to find by staying?😲Do you really think you can fix him?🤣The truth is, there isn't a single soul on this planet who can help someone like that.
Run, don't look back, and thank God you got out while you still could.
Michelle Robinson56 Michelle Robinson56 Newcomer
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#57 ·
I know... Narkic was the real deal... though he definitely has his moments when he’s trying too hard...
I used to judge girls who dated guys like him, thinking they were just being foolish... but once you're actually in that situation, you realize how wrong you were. It's one thing to watch something you love fall apart right in front of you while you're powerless to stop it. And it's even worse when he can't even help himself. He’s a genuinely good man; he’d never let me down or anything like that. He even told me he’d rather die than hurt me. I just want to help him, but I’m at a loss. I’ll be back in that city in about a month for work for a few months. I think I'll keep my distance until I can figure out if he's spiraling again—which is what it feels like. Once I know, maybe I'll try to reach out, if he'll let me. Just strictly on a friendship basis.
Chloe Bailey67 Chloe Bailey67 Newcomer
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#58 ·
Hey everyone,
I’m not entirely sure if this fits the specific topic of this thread, but I really need some perspective from anyone who has dealt with a situation similar to mine.
Basically, my boyfriend has started using cocaine. I noticed it, and now I’m desperate to help him—for his sake, for our relationship, and because of the environment he’s surrounding himself with.
His parents, along with basically everyone else close to him, refuse to see it. They just won't acknowledge that their son actually has a serious problem.
His friends have tried talking to him, but it hasn't worked. When he's high, he acts like the center of the universe, like everything revolves around him. Whenever his buddies try to stage an intervention, his only response is, "Man, being on coke feels amazing!" He genuinely believes that having cocaine in his system makes him the king of the night. To make matters worse, he's part of the 12th Man fan group, and it seems like 99% of them are constantly on coke or speed...
Then there's his best man. This guy used to be a professional athlete, but now he's completely turned to dealing. He’s been feeding my boyfriend this narrative that it's all part of the lifestyle, and unfortunately, my boyfriend is buying it hook, line, and sinker. It's actually caused them to reconnect after my boyfriend previously called him a complete loser and a disgrace to America. Now, they talk every single day. The best man is smuggling drugs, and I am terrified my boyfriend is going to fall completely under his influence. This guy is a manipulator, a thief, and a total wreck; he had everything going for him and blew it all. Now, he's fully committed to the drug trade. He is a toxic influence, because whenever he's around, my boyfriend changes—it's like, "Who cares what anyone thinks? I'm on coke, I'm the man!"

He even claims that all professional athletes are on various drugs, so he views his own habit as totally normal. He’s spending more and more time in Miami because he supposedly has a dealer there who is also a fellow fan, and they go to every single game together. This dealer looks down on anyone who lives a regular life or holds down a decent job. Honestly, the guy would probably sell drugs to his own mother if it meant making a quick buck.
I am convinced that both the best man and this dealer—who pretends to be this great friend and a "good guy"—are the primary reasons he's spiraling. If it weren't for them, he'd be a perfectly normal person. How can I pull him away from this crowd?

Everyone in his inner circle treats it like it's no big deal, which only reinforces his belief that it's fine. People who know him can see he isn't the same person anymore; he spends half his time slipping away to the restroom just to take a hit.
He's completely succumbed to peer pressure and thinks the ultimate goal in life is being high and acting wild at Hard Rock Stadium. How do I get him away from that scene? And how do I get him off the drugs? Does anyone here have experience with this, or can you recommend a specialist who might actually be able to help me navigate this?
He has a good job, but he pours his entire paycheck into his addiction. He isn't an athlete; he works as an accountant and insists his job is incredibly stressful, so he uses cocaine as his way to "unwind." Do you think I should approach his parents or maybe his sister? Though, honestly, I feel like they'll just label me as crazy or dramatic before they ever believe their son is facing a genuine crisis and needs help. Does anyone have advice on how to talk to him? He's so deep in this mindset that he truly believes it's great; he isn't thinking straight because he's always high.
Please, I need any advice or comments you can give. I want to help him as much as I possibly can, but I feel completely helpless. My hands are tied, and I can't stand watching him destroy himself right in front of me. I haven't slept properly in months because of this, and I just want to resolve this as soon as possible.
Thank you so much for any response!
Best regards!
Chloe Bailey67 Chloe Bailey67 Newcomer
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#59 ·
Hey everyone,
I’m not entirely sure if this fits the specific topic of this thread, but I really need some perspective from anyone who has dealt with something similar.
Basically, my boyfriend has started using cocaine—I noticed it, and now I’m desperate to help him, both for our sake and because of the environment he's surrounding himself with.
His parents, along with everyone else close to him, just refuse to see it; they won't admit their kid has a serious problem.
His friends have tried talking sense into him, but it's useless. When he's high, he acts like the center of the universe, like everything revolves around him. When his buddies try to bring it up, his only response is, "Man, being on coke feels amazing!" He thinks having cocaine in his hand makes him the king of the night. He’s part of the 12th Man fan group, and honestly, it seems like 99% of them are constantly on coke or speed..
To make matters worse, his best friend is a former professional athlete who turned into a dealer. He’s been feeding my boyfriend this line about how great it all is, and unfortunately, he’s bought into it. This actually led to them reconciling after my guy called him a complete loser and a disgrace to America. Now, they talk every single day. The friend smuggles drugs, and I am terrified my boyfriend is going to fall completely under his influence. This guy is a manipulator, a thief, and a total wreck; he had everything going for him and gambled it all away. Now, he’s fully immersed in the drug trade. He is such a toxic influence because whenever he's around, my boyfriend's whole persona changes to, "Who cares what anyone thinks? I'm on coke and I'm the man!"

He even claims that all professional athletes are on some kind of drugs, so he views his own habit as totally normal. He’s spending more and more time in Miami because he supposedly has a plug there who is also a huge fan and goes to every single game with him. This dealer of his looks down on anyone who lives a normal life or holds down a decent job. His only goal is to move product, and he’d probably sell drugs to his own mother if there was enough money in it for him.
I am convinced that his best friend and this dealer—who pretends to be this amazing mentor and buddy—are the ones driving him down this path. If it weren't for them, he’d be perfectly fine. How can I pull him away from these people?

Everyone in his inner circle who uses drugs presents it to him as something awesome and standard, so he believes them. People who actually know him can see he isn't the same person anymore; he’s constantly looking for an excuse to slip away to the restroom just to take a hit.
He’s fallen victim to this peer pressure culture where he thinks the pinnacle of life is being high and acting wild at Hard Rock Stadium. How do I distance him from that scene? And from the drugs themselves? Does anyone here have experience with this, or know a specialist who could actually help me navigate this mess?
The thing is, he has a good job, but he spends his entire paycheck on drugs. He’s not a manual laborer; he works as an analyst and claims his job is incredibly high-stress, so he treats cocaine as his "relaxation" method. Do you think I should go to his parents or his sister to talk? Honestly, though, I feel like they’ll just label me as crazy or dramatic before they ever believe their son is facing a genuine crisis and needs intervention. Does anyone have advice on how to approach him? It's hard to get through when he's stuck in this delusional loop where he thinks everything is perfect while he's high.
Please, I need any advice or comments you can give. I want to help him as much as I can, but I feel completely helpless. It’s like my hands are tied, and I can't stand watching him destroy himself right in front of me. I haven't slept properly in months because of this, and I just want to resolve this as soon as possible.
Thank you so much for any response!
Best,
Grace Richardson24 Grace Richardson24 Member
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#60 ·
It’s a tough pill to swallow, I know—but honestly, the smartest move is to just let it all go and focus on moving forward with your life.
You’ve used some pretty heavy language here, and if you were to say those things out loud to the wrong person—especially if that godfather happens to be someone influential in town—it could really backfire on you. For the sake of your own "well-being," I’d suggest stepping away from this whole situation.

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