Guitar talk

So, what’s actually the deal with the difference between a classical and an acoustic guitar? I'm asking because, well, I'm a total newbie and I managed to snap two strings while trying to tighten them up—and since the old ones were already pretty brittle, they just gave out on me. Now I'm sitting here totally lost on what I should actually buy next.
Here’s my poor, battered beginner beauty:
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As for the difference between an acoustic and a classical guitar... a classical model uses nylon strings and has a wider neck, whereas an acoustic features steel strings and a narrower neck. Is that everything one needs to know?😁

Alright, for those of you just starting out, here is the most current breakdown of guitar types:
-Classical guitar (some people still call it Spanish, concert, or nylon string). The architect of the modern classical design was Antonio de Torres back around 1860.

-Acoustic guitar (Western or steel string). I don't know who specifically invented this exact iteration, but "Martin" stands as the most iconic manufacturer and distinguishes six basic body styles: 1, 2, 0, 00, 000, and D. In this hierarchy, the 1 is the shortest with the narrowest body, while the D is the largest and widest. The Dreadnought is the ubiquitous acoustic model and corresponds to the Martin D (featuring 14 frets to the body). A Jumbo acoustic features an even larger, more rounded body. A "cutaway" refers to that notch in the body that allows easier access to the higher frets beyond the 14th. Finally, a 12-string acoustic utilizes paired strings where the first two pairs are tuned in unison, whereas the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th pairs feature one string tuned an octave higher than its partner.

-Resonator guitar (Dobro or National are the names you'll recognize). These utilize a metal resonator cone; the strings pass over a bridge that sits directly on the resonator, creating a vibration transfer similar to how a diaphragm microphone functions.

-Jazz guitars fall into three primary categories: acoustic (think Django Reinhardt), semi-hollow with a pickup (Wes Montgomery style), and the Archtop—which is often what people mean when they simply say "jazz guitar." These typically feature carved tops reminiscent of violins, two f-holes, and are almost always played through an amplifier.

-Electric guitar. This is where string vibration is captured by pickups, sending an electrical signal through a cable to an amp, which, well, amplifies it. The division here is based on: single-coil (a single-coil pickup) used by Fender on the Stratocaster and Telecaster; humbuckers (dual-coil pickups) characteristic of the Gibson Les Paul; and solidbody guitars, which frequently combine two single-coils and a humbucker, usually paired with a Floyd Rose tremolo system.

-Double bass (upright bass). It has four strings tuned exactly like the 6th, 5th, 4th, and 3rd strings on an acoustic, just an octave lower.

-Octave guitar. Roughly the size of a mandolin, it is tuned like a classical guitar but an octave higher (available in both steel and nylon strings).

-Beyond that, there are various national variations, including Flamenco guitars, ukuleles, banjos, and so on, as well as historical instruments like lutes and Baroque guitars.

ruggedcrane22 said:Alright, if you're just starting out, here’s a quick breakdown of how guitars actually categorize today:
-Classical guitars—sometimes called Spanish or concert guitars, or even just nylon-string guitars—trace their modern design back to Antonio de Torres around 1860.

-Acoustic guitars (what we usually call Western guitars or steel-string guitars)—I'm not entirely sure who the single inventor was, but since Martin is the gold standard, they tend to define things by six main body styles: 1, 2, 0, 00, 000, and D. The '1' is the shortest with the narrowest body, while the 'D' is the largest and widest. The Dreadnought is easily the most common acoustic style and matches the Martin D model (it has 14 frets before the body starts). Then you have the Jumbo, which features an even larger, more rounded body; the Cutaway, which has that little notch to help you reach those higher notes past the 14th fret; and the 12-string, where the strings come in pairs—the first two pairs are tuned in unison, while the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th pairs are tuned an octave higher.

-Resonator guitars (brands like Dobro or National are the big names here)—these feature a metal resonator plate. The strings sit right over it, so the vibration transfer is actually quite similar to how a diaphragm microphone works.

-Jazz guitars generally fall into three buckets: purely acoustic (think Django Reinhardt), semi-hollow with a pickup (like Wes Montgomery used), and the Archtop—which is what most people mean when they say "jazz guitar." These usually have carved tops similar to violins, featuring two f-holes, and are almost always played through an amp.

-Electric guitars work by using pickups to capture string vibration, sending an electrical signal through a cable to an amplifier—where, well, it gets louder. We can split these into single-coils (that one-coil setup Fender uses on Stratocasters and Telecasters), humbuckers (the dual-coil style iconic to the Gibson Les Paul), and solid-body guitars, which often combine both types of pickups and frequently feature a Floyd Rose tremolo system.

-The upright bass—a four-string instrument where the tuning for the top four strings is simply an octave lower than the corresponding strings on a standard acoustic guitar.

-Octave guitars—roughly the size of a mandolin, these are tuned an octave higher than a classical guitar (available with either metal or nylon strings).

-And then there are all sorts of national variations—including Flamenco guitars, ukuleles, banjos, and so on—plus historical instruments like lutes and Baroque guitars.

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ruggedhound23 said:What's actually the difference between a classical and an acoustic guitar? I'm just starting out and I already managed to snap two strings while tightening them—plus the old ones snapped too—so now I'm kind of lost on what to buy next.
Here's my little beginner beauty, all beat up already...
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Well, classical guitars are usually smaller, whereas acoustics tend to be bigger... 😁

If you’re planning on cranking up that tension, you might as well just commit to an acoustic setup with steel strings.😉

Man, how am I supposed to just drop a photo here? I need you guys to tell me what to get first—I'm looking at buying some new strings and I really don't want to screw this up.
I'd love to actually play something decent, even though I'm still such a total beginner... I'm basically just wrestling with basic notes right now, haha.
My dream is to be shredding through some solos today or tomorrow—maybe some Ozzy Osbourne tracks from his solo era if anyone out there is actually listening!

ruggedhound23 said:What good is me posting a picture? You’ll just tell me I need to buy new strings so I don't mess things up.
I’d love to actually play something, even though I’m a total beginner still stuck on basic notes. haha.
Dreaming of shredding some Ozzy solos today or maybe tomorrow. Anyone else listening?

Look, here’s the deal: if your tuning pegs—those little screws you wind the strings onto—are plastic, then go get plastic strings. If they're metal, stick with metal. And honestly? Stop worrying about learning sheet music and start learning how to actually play.

It looks like I’ve found a group here with some actual expertise.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a solid music notation software?

Also, where can I track down some simple songs for beginners—specifically things designed for learning via sheet music?

And when does the curriculum typically introduce chords?

I’m really just playing the role of the financier here; my junior is currently in guitar lessons, and they're moving into strictly reading notation during this second year. I’m not worried about it, of course—he’s young, and having a strong foundation in theory won't hurt him one bit—but I’d love to hear some thoughts or commentary from those of you who know the ropes.

So they’re metal strings, then. Got it—thanks a ton for clearing that up! I’m planning to head over and check everything out tomorrow, though I definitely need to pick up some new screws while I'm at it... if you know what I mean. Okay, so that means I won't have to stress about the notes being off. That's a huge relief. Honestly, I can't wait to actually start learning something real, haha. Right now, I've just been blasting "Back in Black" by AC/DC on repeat.
man, that's awesome

Should beginners go with nylon or metal strings? 🤔 😁

A lady at the shop actually gave me some advice—she suggested that if I was going to go with metal tuners anyway, I should grab the 10mm thickness ones because they don't dig into your fingers as much. So, naturally, I listened! I ended up picking up a set of gold $20 Fender tuners. Now, I’ve gotta swap out my old video gear too since it's getting pretty ancient... hopefully, I can finally head out and pick up something new today

nimbleangler34 said:Which is better for a beginner: nylon or metal strings? 🤔 😁

I would suggest nylon. They are much easier to press down and won't hurt your fingers as much. 😉

ruggedcrane22 said:Don't bother learning music theory.

What a joke! Sure, practice is everything, but knowing how to read music adds so much value. Plus, it helps you actually understand the soul of the music...

Ryan Price20 said:What absolute nonsense! Look, practice is obviously the most important part, but having musical literacy provides an incredible advantage. Not to mention that reading music actually allows you to grasp the soul of the composition much more deeply.

I find myself getting frustrated with musicians who rely solely on sheet music, and frankly, even those who feel they need it just to make sense of what they're playing.

ruggedcrane22, you really nailed that summary! Hats off to you! 😬 👍

It’s straightforward. A classical guitar is generally smaller, featuring 18 frets and nylon strings, whereas an acoustic typically has metal strings, roughly 20 frets depending on the model, and should be larger—and arguably more aesthetically pleasing.🙂Go with the acoustic if you think you might eventually switch to electric. It’ll also help toughen up your fingertips a bit...

Oh man, that’s awesome. So I ended up picking up those iron wires—the ones with 18 fields—and honestly? They just don't feel nearly big enough for me...