no more Heart Disease: How Nitric Oxide Can Prevent -- Even revers -- Heart Disease and Stroke

I’m dedicating this entire thread to anyone currently battling heart and vascular issues—or even those who just know they're heading down that road eventually.

I want to talk about a discovery so massive it honestly belongs in the same conversation as penicillin—it’s the kind of breakthrough that earned the Nobel Prize back in '98: "NO - Nitric Oxide as a signaling molecule in the cardiovascular system." Given that heart disease mortality rates have skyrocketed past 50% lately, and we're seeing people hit these issues well before age 40, I truly believe this info could be a lifesaver. If people actually take the time to learn this stuff, maybe they can finally take control of their health and protect themselves from the big one—the heart attack. 😢

Also, a quick word to the trolls and skeptics out there: please, just keep it civil. This isn't some trivial debate; it's incredibly serious business. I suspect even some doctors specializing in this field might pick up something useful here... 🙂

Since we are dealing with such heavy subject matter, I’m going to try my best to pack this with as many hard facts and data points as possible so anyone interested gets the full picture of what this discovery actually means.

Personally, I’ve had the chance to hear two of the three Nobel Prize winners speak on the subject of Nitric Oxide, so I'll try to pass that knowledge along to you all—but let's start from square one...

The prize was awarded for this absolutely stunning discovery—that a gas everyone used to label as just another air pollutant is actually produced inside the human body, playing a massive role in regulating all sorts of physiological functions. We're talking about everything from blood pressure to nerve impulse transmission and even immune responses. It’s a total historical paradox, really—Nitric Oxide is actually what makes nitroglycerin effective, which is a medication used for heart arrhythmias. And get this: Alfred Nobel, the man who founded the prize, actually refused to use it himself because he knew exactly how it worked within his own invention, dynamite. In recent years, medical and pharmacological research has put Nitric Oxide right at the center of how erections work, making it the primary target for the hit drug—Viagra.

Looking ahead, as the National Academy of Sciences has pointed out, this line of research is going to pave the way for brand-new treatments for heart disease, cancer, and even toxic shock syndrome. The three winners, who are splitting a $975,000 prize equally, are: Robert Furchgott, from the State University of New York in Brooklyn, Louis Ignarro, from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), and Ferid Murad, from the University of Texas Medical Branch in Houston.

But anyway, let's backtrack to those early discovery years that eventually led to this kind of recognition.
Back in 1977, Dr. Ferid Murad discovered that nitroglycerin works against chest pain caused by heart disease by releasing a gaseous chemical compound—Nitric Oxide—which dilates blood vessels.
Three years later, Robert Furchgott figured out that certain cells in the body create a compound that widens blood vessels by relaxing smooth muscle cells. Mr. Furchgott concluded that the human body creates signaling molecules to pass messages between cells, though, at the time, he had no clue which specific compound was responsible.
That’s when the Los Angeles scientist Louis Ignarro went hunting for that mysterious compound, and by 1986, the two of them finally established that it was indeed Nitric Oxide.

According to the Nobel Prize Committee, the work done by these three winners triggered an absolute avalanche of research in laboratories all over the world. In fact, back in 1992, the journal Science declared Nitric Oxide to be the Molecule of the Year!

With this discovery, you can finally take control of your destiny when it comes to cardiovascular issues—and since I want to explain how this actually works, I’ll try to pass along what I’ve gathered from Dr. Ignarro... 🙂

As most people already realize, cardiovascular diseases are largely lifestyle-driven; they're triggered by obesity, poor diet—and I'm talking about diets loaded with saturated fatty acids—and a general lack of physical activity.

We now understand that these factors actively suppress and reduce the production of our own Nitric Oxide. It’s also a well-established fact that anyone struggling with heart disease is essentially dealing with a deficiency in Nitric Oxide.

A massive amount of research shows that if we could just boost Nitric Oxide production back to normal levels, we might be able to significantly alleviate the symptoms of cardiovascular disease.

Every single cell in the human body is made up of atoms.
Nitric Oxide is one of the smallest, simplest molecules in the body—just one nitrogen atom (N) and one oxygen atom (O). But don't let that simplicity fool you; despite being so basic, Nitric Oxide is arguably the most critical signaling molecule in our entire system.

So, what does Nitric Oxide actually do?

It performs a staggering number of functions in the body, but I’ll just touch on a few of them here.
Nitric Oxide triggers vasodilation—which is just a fancy way of saying it dilates the arteries—allowing more blood to flow through the body and, in turn, nourishing every single cell.
Whenever those arteries dilate, blood pressure within them drops. It really is that straightforward—it isn't just some abstract concept—and we now know that Nitric Oxide handles at least two vital roles: improving circulation and lowering blood pressure. In reality, it does countless other good things that protect us from cardiovascular disease.
Supplementing Nitric Oxide can improve the function of many different organs in the body, which is something that is already very well documented.

Nitric Oxide can actually help improve muscle function—it really can.

Look, when Nitric Oxide actually starts improving blood flow through your muscles—which is exactly what you want—it’s going to be a total game-changer whenever you're working out, whether you're hitting the pavement for a run, grinding through a gym session, or out on a bike ride. I mean, it's pretty simple logic, really: if you ramp up that blood flow, you're essentially delivering a massive surge of extra blood—and by extension, way more oxygen and essential nutrients—directly to those hard-working muscles. It just makes sense.
If you’re one of those people who lives for a long run or spends your weekends tearing up the pavement on a bike, you probably know the drill—that brutal, nagging ache in your legs once you finally finish your workout. It’s honestly exhausting. And look, if we're being scientific about it, that's mostly because lactic acid builds up in your muscles as a byproduct of metabolism, which is exactly what triggers that soreness. It's just how it works, I guess.

Look, it’s pretty simple—when you increase blood flow, you’re also ramping up the drainage. You're essentially speeding up the removal of lactic acid, which, in theory, should help dial back that pain. I guess it just makes sense, doesn't it?
And of course—the whole point here is to ramp up your own internal production of Nitric Oxide and actually get it working for you.

So, how exactly can we ramp up Nitric Oxide production and actually get it working effectively in the body? It’s not just about having it present—it's about the action behind it.

NO is actually synthesized from a specific substance called "arginine." It’s an amino acid that shows up in basically every protein found in our bodies—and, honestly, in almost everything we eat, too. Whether you're sticking to meat, fish, or just loading up on vegetables... they all seem to be packed with arginine.

One of the other things arginine actually does—aside from just ensuring you're getting enough nutrition—is that it boosts the production of Nitric Oxide. I won't get bogged down in all the technical details here, but let's just say that arginine essentially gets metabolized—or rather, converted—into Nitric Oxide within the body.
When Nitric Oxide is generated from arginine, there's actually another substance produced alongside it—it's called citrulline.
Look, Citrulline is actually a massive deal—really important. A whole bunch of scientists have figured out that Citrulline can be converted back into Arginine right inside your cells. So, if you’re feeding those cells more Arginine, you’re essentially boosting your levels of Nitric Oxide—especially if your cells are already running low on it. It just makes sense, I guess.
Plus, it’s becoming pretty common knowledge now—if you actually give your cells enough Citrulline, they’ll just grab it and use it to synthesize Arginine, which then converts into Nitric Oxide. It’s a bit of a chain reaction, really—meaning you can essentially supercharge your Nitric Oxide production even further than before.

But there's one more thing we absolutely have to get done—we can't just leave it at that.
Look, the reality is that NO is an incredibly unstable molecule—it just doesn't stick around for long. In fact, signaling molecules within the body never last more than a second or two; they perform their specific function and then, just like that, they're gone.
The whole idea—if you really want to boost your Nitric Oxide levels—is that you actually need to keep it circulating in your bloodstream for as long as possible.

The primary way the body actually clears Nitric Oxide out of its system is through oxidation—at least, that’s how I understand it.
Look, we’re talking about oxidative stress here—and I won't get bogged down in every single microscopic detail unless I have to—but essentially, what triggers this oxidative stress is a specific type of oxygen. You could call it "bad oxygen," if you want to keep it simple, and the real problem is that this stuff can absolutely destroy your Nitric Oxide.
This is exactly what happens with cardiovascular disease—and honestly, it’s the same story with so many other conditions—there is just an overwhelming amount of oxidative stress happening, which inevitably leads to a drop in Nitric Oxide.

I suspect most people have already crossed paths with antioxidants by now—they've been floating around in all sorts of different products on the market for years, if not decades.

Vitamin C and Vitamin E are probably the two most common antioxidants out there—I mean, sure, there are plenty of others if you really start digging into the science, but those two are definitely the heavy hitters everyone talks about.
The term "antioxidants" literally translates to "against oxidation"—it’s right there in the name.
Antioxidants basically work by mopping up those nasty free radicals—you know, the bad oxygen—which allows Nitric Oxide to hang around in your bloodstream way longer. It’s not exactly groundbreaking news, either—this has been pretty much common knowledge in the medical community for the last 15 years or so.

So, here’s the thing—if you actually bother to add antioxidants into the mix, you’ll manage to preserve your Nitric Oxide and even trigger the production of even more of it. It’s pretty straightforward, really.
It is absolutely critical—and I mean truly vital—to make sure you're getting enough arginine, citrulline, and antioxidants all at once. You can't just pick and choose; they really need to be taken simultaneously to actually work.
And all those substances—they're actually present in... NiteworksAnd honestly—it’s just incredibly easy to take all those substances at once like that. I mean, really, it's almost too simple.

We really ought to touch upon Taurine as well—it’s another essential amino acid that deserves some attention here.

Taurine is actually one of the most precious amino acids out there.
It is quite fascinating that during fetal development, there is more Taurine present than any other amino acid; it is essentially the most prominent amino acid in the body. During our teenage years, Taurine levels are incredibly high, but—and this is the kicker—as we age, those levels just start to plummet.
There seems to be a massive correlation between this decline in Taurine and the rise in cardiovascular diseases.

How many children do you know who suffer from cardiovascular issues?
Not many, I’d imagine—but as we get older, those heart problems start creeping in. Plenty of scientists have been digging into whether Taurine plays a specific role in preventing these kinds of cardiovascular issues.
Just like any other amino acid, Taurine is found in abundance in meat and fish. Based on what we know, if you eat plenty of fish and watermelon, you’re getting a solid dose of arginine, citrulline, and Taurine. Of course, we have to eat meat, but—let’s face it—meat is packed with saturated fats...

Now, fish provides roughly the same amount of protein as meat, but it has one huge advantage: it doesn't carry all those saturated fatty acids; instead, it offers unsaturated fats. That’s why the general consensus is that we should be eating way more fish and significantly less meat.

We also know that Taurine acts as a powerful antioxidant and, interestingly enough—and this is vital information—it actually helps boost Nitric Oxide production. This is relatively recent, highly significant stuff.
It’s also a staple in sports drinks. For years, certain beverages on the market have included Taurine to help people perform better during workouts. A lot of people report feeling much better and having higher energy levels when they consume drinks containing Taurine. There are plenty of options out there; I mean, everyone has heard of Red Bull, which is fine, but there is now something even better— lift off!!!

Look, whether you’re ready for it or not, the name 😉HERBALIFE
is going to be popping up constantly in your future.
Despite all the pressure from various big pharma companies trying to recruit him, Dr. Louis Ignarro decided to take his groundbreaking discoveries, his expertise, and his entire reputation and put them to work for Herbalife—so, here is an interview with him (transcribed from the video):

Jamie McManus:
Hello, I’m Jamie McManus, Vice President of the Herbalife Medical Advisory Board. I am incredibly excited to talk to you today about our amazing product, Niteworks, and even more thrilled to be sitting down with the man who helped bring it to life, Dr. Louis Ignarro. Now, Dr. Ignarro was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine back in 1998 for his research regarding Nitric Oxide, which is such a critical indicator of cardiovascular health.
Dr. Ignarro, honestly, there is so much to say about your work—it is truly a massive honor for both Herbalife and myself personally that you are part of our scientific advisory board and our research team. We’d love to hear, how did it feel to receive such a prestigious award, and what has life been like for you since then?

Dr. Louis Ignarro:
It was extraordinary. Truly. It was the culmination of thirty years of grueling work. See, when you’re deep in research, nobody actually knows for sure which direction the work will head or if it’ll even be successful. That was my reality, too—it was incredibly difficult to publish those initial results and secure any kind of financial backing from the government to keep the research going. Our first major breakthrough was realizing that nitroglycerin helps by stimulating the release of Nitric Oxide within the body. That was just the starting line. This is particularly significant because nitroglycerin has been used since the 19th century, yet we had absolutely no clue how it actually worked. All we knew was that it lowered blood pressure and eased heart pain. Even Alfred Nobel used it—he famously derived dynamite from nitroglycerin. So, you have this substance that is an explosive, yet simultaneously a vital medicine. It took us another hundred years to finally uncover its mechanism in the body—that it triggers the production of Nitric Oxide. Once that clicked, I began focusing entirely on Nitric Oxide, which led us to so many other discoveries. I put an immense amount of hard labor into this, and in 1998, the Nobel Foundation finally announced that my work had earned the Nobel Prize.

Jamie McManus:
And you shared that honor with two other colleagues, correct? They were also working in that same field and reached similar conclusions.

Dr. Louis Ignarro:
That’s right. We were all operating differently, spread across three different laboratories, but we all arrived at the exact same conclusion: Nitric Oxide is a vital signaling molecule. That’s why we were honored together.

Jamie McManus:
Just to clarify for everyone listening, Nitric Oxide is a process generated within our own bodies that serves multiple functions, but your focus was specifically on its impact on the cardiovascular system. Could you walk us through how that works?

Dr. Louis Ignarro:
Well, my earliest breakthroughs were centered on the cardiovascular system—that’s my specialty, so that's where I focused my efforts. Its importance to the cardiovascular system lies in how it affects heart function, specifically regarding the blood vessels. Nitric Oxide triggers something called "vasodilation"—in plain English, it expands the blood vessels, making it much easier for blood to flow through them. Additionally, it strengthens the vessel walls, making them more elastic, and reinforces the cells that make up the vessel lining, which are crucial for many other bodily functions. Simply put, it facilitates circulation, which leads to a healthier vascular system—and a healthier heart, because the blood vessels are what feed the heart.

We take in Nitric Oxide naturally through our diet; amino acids play a massive role in producing it—specifically, one amino acid known as "arginine." We get this through our food, and in fact, most of the arginine in our bodies comes directly from what we eat. You can find it in meat, fish, nuts, and various proteins. Inside the body, arginine converts into Nitric Oxide, and during that process, another substance called "citrulline" is created, which is also an amino acid. This is incredibly important because citrulline converts back into arginine within the cells, which essentially boosts the concentration of arginine in the cell. It’s a recycling loop that drives the creation of Nitric Oxide, closing the circle. Once the production of Nitric Oxide begins, it keeps going as long as there are reserves of "arginine" and "citrulline" available. That is the fundamental process behind creating Nitric Oxide.

Nitric Oxide is—well, let's be honest—a pretty unstable thing; it breaks down incredibly fast. Now, the antioxidants in your system actually slow down that degradation. This is absolutely critical because when you're dealing with high oxidation levels—say, during intense stress—the concentration of Nitric Oxide tends to plummet since those oxidation byproducts just chew it right up. Antioxidants that mop up those oxidative molecules essentially protect the Nitric Oxide. Our bodies have plenty of them, and we get a lot through our diet—which is why fruit and veggies are so vital, and why natural juices are considered healthy. They’re packed with antioxidants. Their whole job is to boost and maintain Nitric Oxide levels in the body, which in turn keeps your blood vessels and heart functioning properly.

Jamie McManus:
Now that we've laid all this groundwork from your research, it's clear that the ultimate goal was to develop a supplement people could actually use. That’s how " Niteworks " came to be, through a collaboration with Herbalife. It utilizes arginine and citrulline to kickstart the recycling process of Nitric Oxide in the body, alongside Vitamins C and E—which are potent antioxidants meant to prevent that breakdown I mentioned.

Dr. Louis Ignarro:
Exactly. This is an idea I've held onto for quite some time, and it's finally become a reality. I believe we've struck the right balance here—combining specific amino acids to drive Nitric Oxide production with a solid blend of antioxidants to ensure it stays active in the body.

Jamie McManus:
That's the entire point of "Niteworks"—to stimulate the production of Nitric Oxide. Personally, I can tell you from experience that when I take "Niteworks," I wake up feeling rested and genuinely energized to tackle whatever the day throws at me. We haven't actually specified how to take "Niteworks" yet, though. Just mix two scoops—you'll find them in the box—of "Niteworks" with about a few ounces of liquid. Water or sparkling water works fine, but I personally like mixing mine with HerbalAloe since I enjoy having that before bed.
It’s incredibly straightforward to use—just once a day. Ideally, you want to take it before sleep because it has a rather calming effect. I suspect everyone will eventually see the benefits, just as we have.

I really want to thank Dr. Ignarro for serving on our scientific advisory board and for his instrumental role in bringing "Niteworks" to life. It has been a genuine pleasure speaking with you, and I hope you now understand why Dr. Ignarro pours so much passion into his scientific research. He truly represents excellence to the world through Herbalife.

The book "no more Heart Disease : How Nitric Oxide Can Prevent -- Even revers -- Heart Disease and Stroke" by Louis Ignarro offers so many insights—honestly, it’s almost impossible to cover everything here without writing a novel...

But look, the most important thing—always—is hearing from the actual people who are already using Niteworks:

http://herbal-alternatives.net/testimonialsNW.pdf

http://niteworks.edietstar.com/hit.html

http://www.givemerelief.com/Nitework...r_Testimonials

We're talking about the proven experiences of thousands of folks using "Niteworks" so far:
- 2003 - USA
- 2004 - Canada, Singapore
- 2005 - Taiwan .... and as of this month, it's officially available in Europe too.. 👍

It’s also worth mentioning—and this is crucial—that science has shown it's actually impossible to push Nitric Oxide above its maximum safe level. It's completely safe, doesn't cause side effects, and it's all naturally based—composed of amino acids (L-arginine, L-citrulline, Taurine) along with vitamins C and E... 🙂

NITEWORKS COULD LITERALLY CHANGE YOUR LIFE AND SAVE IT!
THERE IS SIMPLY NOTHING ELSE LIKE IT!!!

Alright, ex mayo!!!

First off, tests to analyze Nitric Oxide levels in the blood have been commercially available on the market for over five years now.

Second, please, learn the language before you start posting, because you constantly prove you don't even understand what you're copy-pasting! It isn't "nitric oxid," it's Nitric Oxide, and it isn't "taurine" or "carnitine"... it's arginine, taurine, and carnitine—and "argitine" isn't even a thing, it's ARGININE!!! That’s basic high school science curriculum, honestly.

And third, 🙂

Sarah Gomez52 said:First off—just to set the record straight—tests to analyze Nitric Oxide levels in the blood aren't some new discovery; they’ve actually been commercially available on the market for over five years now.

Secondly—for the love of everything—just learn the language already! You keep proving that you have absolutely no clue what you're actually copy-pasting. It’s not "nitric oxid," it's nitrogen dioxide—get it right. And don't even get me started on the supplements; you don't say "taurine" or "carnitine"... it's arginine, taurine, and carnitine. As for "argitine"—that isn't even a real thing! It's ARGININE!!!

Look, this is basic stuff—we’re talking high school level material here, maybe even some early college engineering courses... and that’s just getting started. 🙂

To kick things off, I asked:

casualnomad42 said:And honestly, I’m asking all the trolls out there to just—for once—show some restraint. Seriously. Cut out the mindless, irrelevant comments because we are dealing with something incredibly serious here. I truly believe that even many doctors who specialize in this field might actually walk away from this conversation with some new, useful information... if they can manage to keep an open mind.

Look, I’m actually going to address your "comments"—just so you can rest easy and get some peace of mind. 😉

Look, I’m not even talking about tests here—I'm talking about actual solutions... you know, like an actual way you can step up and make a real change. In PRACTICE!!! ... but I honestly don't see where I ever mentioned anything about "Nitric Oxide analysis tests." 😕

casualnomad42 said:Fast forward three years—and Robert Furchgott discovers that certain cells in the body actually produce a compound capable of widening blood vessels by relaxing smooth muscle cells. It was Furchgott who concluded that the human body generates these signaling molecules to pass messages between cells—though, at the time, he didn't have a clue which specific compound was responsible.
That elusive, secret connection—it’s exactly what the Los Angeles scientist Louis Ignarro spent his career hunting down, and... Back in 1986. Those two actually figured out that it all comes down to... Nitric Oxide. It’s one of those things that people just don't seem to grasp—how much of a game-changer it actually is for our health. Seriously, if you aren't paying attention to how this works, you're missing the whole picture..

According to the Nobel Prize Committee, the groundbreaking research conducted by these three winners essentially triggered a massive wave of studies in laboratories all over the world. In fact, back in 1992, the journal Science actually declared that—well, you know—it was a total game-changer. Nitric Oxide—it’s easily the molecule of the year!

2) quoting:

casualnomad42 said:NO is actually built up from a specific substance called... Arginine—it’s one of those terms you see tossed around constantly in health circles—but honestly, people rarely seem to grasp the actual nuance behind it. It’s an amino acid, sure, but its role in the body is far more complex than just being another supplement on a shelf. Most importantly, it serves as a precursor to Nitric Oxide, which is the real heavy hitter when it comes to vascular health. I mean, if you aren't looking at how it influences blood flow and vessel dilation, you're basically missing the entire point of why anyone would bother taking it in the first place. It’s all connected, though most discussions stay way too surface-level for my liking.So, here’s the thing—there is this one specific amino acid that's essentially everywhere. It's present in every single protein within our own bodies, and honestly, it's in pretty much all the proteins we consume too—regardless of whether you're eating meat, fish, or just sticking to vegetables... it’s just incredibly abundant. Arginine—it’s one of those things you hear tossed around constantly in health circles, isn't it? I guess people treat it like some sort of magic bullet, but we really need to look closer at how it actually functions within the body. It’s essentially an amino acid that acts as a precursor to Nitric Oxide, which—as anyone who has bothered to read a bit of science knows—is absolutely critical for vascular health. I mean, if you aren't supporting your nitric oxide levels, what are you even doing? It’s the fundamental mechanism behind vasodilation. Without it, everything just... stalls. It's not just about "feeling good"—it's about the actual physiological necessity of keeping those pathways open. Maybe it's overhyped in certain mainstream circles, but when you dig into the actual biochemistry, the importance of amino acids like arginine becomes pretty hard to ignore. It’s all right there—hidden in that food.

One more thing that... Arginine—it’s one of those amino acids that everyone seems to be buzzing about lately, though I suspect most people don't actually grasp the mechanics behind it. It’s essentially a precursor to Nitric Oxide, which—as anyone who follows cardiovascular health knows—is absolutely critical for vasodilation. I mean, if you aren't looking at how your body manages Nitric Oxide levels, are you even really paying attention to your vascular health? It’s all connected. You take the arginine, it converts, your vessels relax, and things theoretically run smoother. But, as with most things in the supplement world, there's always a catch or a nuance that people gloss over in their rush to find a magic pill. I guess it’s worth looking closer at how much of an impact it actually has on systemic circulation versus just being another trendy additive on a label. radi ....

I honestly can't wait for you to tell me exactly what I do—and don't—understand.

Your criticisms just don't hold water—seriously. If I put something in quotation marks (like what I cited above), then it wasn't even written in English to begin with. And honestly, if a stray letter or two somehow slipped through in a title, I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about it... it’s really not that deep.
Look, of course I know that the American term for NO is Nitric Oxide—or "Nitric Oxide," if you want to be technical—but since that abbreviation "NO" pops up constantly, it’s just way easier for anyone reading to follow the flow if I actually write out "Nitric Oxide"... and honestly? I don't really care if that bothers you. You clearly don't have anything better to do than sit around nitpicking everything I say. 👎

3) Honestly, one little emoji says more than my reply to your comments ever could >>>>>> :2up:

For the last time—and I mean this—I am ASKING YOU 🙂 to stop trying to derail this thread... there is information here that could actually save lives, and you're just sabotaging it.. 🙂

ps: maybe try filing an appeal with the admins to let them know you aren't dealing with some Catholic priest here ... 😉 😁

casualnomad42 said:..

I’m asking you ONCE AGAIN, 🙂 please stop sabotaging this thread. This info could literally save lives.. 🙂
...

Oh wow, look at us! A true humanitarian has arrived to save the day.
He’s clearly not just some guy selling Herbalife on his days off—no, he’s a total healer.

Is there any way we can just mute this person?

jadesailor14 said:Is there any way to just shut you up?

There is—it's just that I’m far too polite to announce it here in public... 😁

ps: U2 >>> :2up:

casualnomad42 said:It exists, but I’m being way too polite to just drop it all here in public! 😁

P.S. U2 >>> :2up:

Wow, a true man of culture straight from the construction site!

casualnomad42 said:1)

You didn't mention any actual tests, but you're acting like discovering the Nitric Oxide molecule in the bloodstream is some massive breakthrough that Dr. Herbalife just whispered to you ten minutes ago, and now you're on a mission to enlighten the entire planet!
Get real—we've understood Nitric Oxide, how it works, and why it matters for over 15 years now. You didn't just "discover" this yesterday. 😁

casualnomad42 said:Once again, I am ASKING YOU 🙂 please don't derail this thread, because this information could actually save lives...

And once again, WRONG!!! Sure, maybe you'll save a life, but only your own if you can find enough naive people willing to buy the HL powders you're peddling as a cure-all for every ailment on Earth.

STOP ADVERTISING HL!!!
🙄 🙄 🙄

LOL, this guy just won't quit... he's some kind of health zealot.

Sure, I'll give you this: there's actual nutritional value in those products.

But let's be real, this is just one link in a massive chain, and you're clearly here primarily to line your pockets... helping people is just the side hustle.

So, to wrap this up: I actually enjoy this health forum, but you're cluttering it up with all these mindless copy-paste threads.

The garbage from you and your clones has made this board unbearable... we're all suffocating under it.

Get it through your head, man... direct marketing doesn't happen on a forum, at least not this one.
I guess after months of spamming, you finally achieved that "brand awareness" you were aggressively chasing.
Just remember, whatever they taught you in that "get rich quick" seminar isn't going to fly here... I hope.

Through this post, I’m calling on the admins... since this is a textbook case of live direct marketing, please ban this user immediately.
Because if he gets to dump ads everywhere, why shouldn't I or anyone else?

Is this forum really meant for stuff like this?

Sarah Gomez52 said:You didn't even mention any actual tests, yet you're acting like discovering the NO molecule in the bloodstream is this massive, revolutionary breakthrough that some doctor from Herbalife just whispered in your ear ten minutes ago—and now suddenly you’re the one meant to enlighten the entire world!
Look, get this through your head: the reality of Nitric Oxide in the blood, how it works, and why it matters—that's been common knowledge for over 15 years!!! But apparently, for you, it was just discovered yesterday. 😁

Maybe try humbling yourself for a second and actually study the fundamentals from the ground up... 😵

The real breakthrough here isn't just knowing about the molecule—it's finding an EFFECTIVE way to utilize Nitric Oxide to actually protect the cardiovascular system... and, of course, the most critical part: protecting against heart attacks.

Just because people have known about Nitric Oxide for "over 15 years" doesn't change the fact that ONLY NOW have we finally managed to create a high-quality supplement that can be used without any issues. (And I think I've already made that point clear).

Charles Young said:1) Sure, I’ll give you that—there’s definitely some healthy stuff in those products.

2) BUT—let’s be real—that’s just one link in the chain, and you’re clearly here primarily to line your pockets, even if you claim you're helping people secondarily.

3) So, to wrap this up: honestly, I love this health forum, and you’re out here polluting it with your constant copy-paste threads.
The garbage from you and your little clones has made this forum stink—we're all suffocating in it.

4) Look, man, direct marketing doesn't happen on a forum—at least not this one.
I guess after months of spamming, you finally built up some "brand awareness" that you're now trying to force down our throats.
Just remember, whatever they taught you in that "Get Rich Quick" seminar isn't going to work here—at least, I hope not.

5) This is my plea to the admins: since this is basically a live demonstration of direct marketing, please ban this user ASAP.
Because if he can just toss ads around whenever he wants, why shouldn't I—or anyone else—do the exact same thing?

6) Is this forum really the place for this kind of stuff?

1) Oh, please... where are you even getting that from? Are you actually sure about that? .. 😁

2) You just don't get it—there is NOTHING like this out there!!! ... and seriously, stop playing games and ask yourself how much your own life is actually worth to you.

3) Just skip over what you don't care about. From what I can see, you haven't even offered a single opinion regarding the claims mentioned; instead, you're just obsessing over me and trying to psychoanalyze my intentions. Chill out a bit... 👋

4) What kind of "marketing" are you even talking about? .. I'm here strictly to spread information and raise awareness about health and how to achieve it.. I have way too much work to do to be wandering around here trying to sell things to people—you're seriously overthinking this... 😁

5) If information on how to manage heart issues and protect yourself from a potential heart attack isn't important to you, then spare us your comments on this thread. Don't be so incredibly selfish by insisting on your "perfect" assessments, okay?

6) At least I take this "health" forum seriously, rather than treating it like a joke like some others do... and you know best what's right for you..

It’s honestly pathetic how the guy peddling "his" products ends up looking significantly sharper than the people trying to take him down, at least based on this thread. Honestly, your comments are just... 😵

It’s honestly pathetic how people dismiss this info as just some blatant advertisement instead of recognizing it as the potential solution to one of the most lethal issues we face today... 😢

And then there's all this wasted energy—just endless, pointless effort spent focusing on the wrong things. Everyone is so obsessed with the messenger that they completely miss the actual message being delivered. I mean, why is that? Maybe those self-proclaimed "crusaders" should take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask themselves that very question... 😉 😁

In their sheer helplessness—and this desperate attempt to suck up to anything that didn't originate from their own tiny minds—they end up grasping at the most trivial nonsense imaginable. They'll nitpick a minor typo or some other absolute nothingness just to feel relevant. It’s truly, deeply pathetic... 😢 😎

banderas said:It’s honestly a bit tragic—and frankly, quite embarrassing—that the guy promoting "his" own products ends up looking significantly sharper than the people trying to take him down, at least based on this specific thread. I mean, these comments are just... well, you know... 😵

We are losing steam here, truly. It feels like every other day someone pops up under a brand-new handle just to spout the exact same nonsense. As for the quality of the arguments? Look, if Mchummermayo doesn't even grasp the basics of what arginine actually is, then of course he's going to stumble over the spelling—writing "arginin" one second and "arginine" the next! To anyone who actually understands the science, those little slips immediately flag his supposed level of "expertise."

As Sarah Gomez52 would say, the real issue here isn't what is being said, but rather who is doing the talking.

There’s one thing I just don't get: a few months back, I posted an announcement here about launching a website—which isn't even a commercial venture, by the way—and the thread was nuked almost immediately. How exactly does this guy get away with posting spammy content and threads without them being deleted?