Coffee talk

Same deal over here: I quit smoking about eighteen months ago, and coffee is still the only thing that actually gets me going. 😁 Green tea messes with my voice, though I’ll occasionally give in to that temptation if I add a little lemon.

Melissa Cruz2 said:It’s because she’s trashing the very product she’s supposed to be promoting. I mean, she isn't exactly required to be honest if she's basically an asset for a corporation...

Oh, come on—if she had just said she looked like that naturally, or if she'd lied about it, then she'd be 1) a liar, 2) full of herself, and 3) just selling you guys smoke and mirrors.

Besides, where in her contract with Revlon did it say she has to lie about her own appearance?

Secondly: someone her height who dropped over 60 pounds in just a few months wouldn't be...

First off, where do you get the right to call people livestock? Look, I don't care about Cindy, but it's easy to tear down someone who can't even defend themselves. She never actually carried an extra 60 pounds, so she didn't have "sagging skin" or whatever... I remember her photos from 15 years ago when I was...😳 well, it doesn't matter what I was doing, but that woman has always looked good. 🙂 Her face, for what it's worth, isn't anything special either. Just average.

Though reading your post, there were moments I couldn't tell if you were talking about Cindy or 😕About Opri...

Matthew Sullivan32 said:Honestly, reading through your post, I couldn't tell for a second if you were talking about Cindy or About Opri... 😕

It’s gotta be About Opri, because I'm pretty sure the other one wasn't trying to drop 30 pounds.

And regarding that whole coffee and green tea thing—back when I quit smoking, I swapped my morning coffee for green tea and the effect was basically the same. That hit of alertness, the metabolic kickstart...

Rebecca Grant46 said:It’s probably about Opri—because I’m assuming this other person wasn't supposed to drop 30 pounds...

As for the coffee versus green tea thing—back when I quit smoking, I swapped my coffee for green tea and the effect was pretty much the same. That alertness, the metabolic kick...

Green tea can actually go either way—it can wake you up or help you relax depending on how long you let it steep... maybe 2 to 5 minutes...

Hey everyone,
I was watching an episode of Oprah the other day—this nutritionist or whatever his title was—and he made this claim:

"Don't touch coffee for six weeks; instead, switch to green tea, and I guarantee you’ll drop 10 pounds..." He explained that coffee spikes insulin production, which essentially makes it easier for sugars to bind—leading to that whole "frying" process where we just end up gaining weight.

Yet, just recently, I read something entirely different in a major news outlet: that coffee actually boosts your metabolism by about 5-10%, making it a perfect tool for dieting.

I honestly don't think people realize how conflicting this all is. I've heard from countless sources that coffee accelerates metabolism—in fact, I am literally holding a recent medical journal right now that states: "...Caffeine acts as a stimulant on the metabolism. It releases fatty acids and allows them to be utilized during physical activity. While fat is being used as an energy source, carbohydrate consumption decreases, allowing blood sugar levels to remain elevated for longer, while increased glucose helps suppress appetite. This is why caffeine is frequently found in various weight-loss supplements."
....And of course, I believed that completely—UNTIL I heard this doctor on Oprah present his opposing theory... so,

Does anyone actually know the truth behind what that guy on Oprah said? He was citing "expert data"—not personal experience, mind you!!!! (Because, let's be honest, I definitely have to run to the restroom after my coffee, but I highly doubt that wouldn't happen regardless...😁 )

Caffeine is pretty much the undisputed king of sports nutrition. It basically triggers fat mobilization in the body. If you get some caffeine in your system before hitting the gym or a big game, those fats start burning way faster. I guess it’s worth remembering that during those first 20 minutes of exercise, your body is mostly just burning through carbohydrates, and only then does it really pivot to fat. So, if an athlete drinks Thermojetics tea before training, they can effectively preserve those carbs. That way, they save their energy and hopefully see better endurance.

Just a little note for the competitive types out there regarding caffeine intake. Caffeine isn't on the banned substances list, though it has been flagged for monitoring—though honestly, the concern isn't how much you consume, but rather what shows up in your urine—so I suppose it should still be used within reason. That said, back on September 23, 2003, at the International Olympic Committee congress, they decided that caffeine isn't a doping agent. That ruling took effect on January 1, 2004. Since then, you can technically take as much as you want. Again, I'll emphasize that quality is everything. Ideally, you want a natural source of caffeine that breaks down gradually and steadily in your bloodstream, rather than that "quick hit" you get from coffee.

If you're looking for a solid alternative to coffee, Guarana is actually quite great. People often use it during weight loss cycles because it helps curb hunger and seems to have a positive effect on both body and mind. It's also frequently used to help students deal with mental fatigue during those intense exam seasons. Maybe its most significant benefit is the ability to boost psychological tension and overall resistance to fatigue, regardless of the circumstances.

According to experts who have looked into how it works, the effects of Guarana are tied to several active components, including a caffeine content of about 4.28%. Even with a percentage like that, using Guarana doesn't usually cause jitters, nervousness, or insomnia. This is probably because the caffeine alkaloid is absorbed much more slowly; unlike coffee, the caffeine levels in your bloodstream don't spike aggressively. Plus, Guarana doesn't contain extra stimulants like >, which you'll find in coffee.

ps: if you want more info on > tea or Guarana, just shoot me a DM.. 😎

Matthew Sullivan32 said:Oh please, if she had just admitted she’s naturally like that instead of lying, she wouldn't be 1) a liar 2) conceited 3) trying to sell you guys snake oil.

Besides, where in her contract with Revlon does it say she has to lie about her own appearance?

First off, who gives you the right to call people cattle? Honestly, I don't give a damn about Cindy, but it's easy to bash someone who can't even defend themselves. She never carried an extra 60 pounds, so she doesn't have any loose skin; I remember looking at her photos from 15 years ago when I...😳 anyway, it doesn't matter what I thought, but that woman has always looked good.🙂 Her body is fine, though her face isn't anything special. Just average.

Actually, reading your post, there were moments I couldn't tell if you were talking about Cindy or About Opri.😕

What are you even on about?😁

I don't think everyone actually gets it. I've heard in dozens of places that coffee speeds up your metabolism—in fact, I'm literally holding a recent medical journal right now that says the exact same thing: '...Caffeine acts as a stimulant on metabolism. It releases fatty acids and allows them to be utilized during physical activity. While this fat is being used as an energy source, carbohydrate consumption decreases, keeping blood sugar levels elevated for longer, and high glucose levels suppress appetite. This is why caffeine is frequently found in various weight loss supplements.'
....and of course, I believed that WHOLE thing UNTIL I heard this doctor on the Oprah show explain his theory... so,

Does anyone know anything about what that guy on Oprah said regarding the "scientific" data? Not just his own personal experience!!!! (Because, look, I poop after drinking coffee too, but I don't believe that wouldn't happen anyway...)

Look, I haven't seen a single instance where someone spits after drinking coffee without an ad for some other product immediately following—usually something way more expensive than the coffee itself. Let me tell you right now: if you want decent green tea, start filling up your wallet.

If you're so interested in the guy from her show and what he was rambling about, just go to her official website and do your own digging. Maybe then you'll find some logic in what I'm typing here instead of just dismissing it as some arrogant rant.

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Betty Hill82 said:What are you even talking about?😁

It’s wild how much negativity people throw at someone they’ve probably never even met in person, let alone actually had a conversation with... honestly, feels like someone had way too much caffeine today.😁

If an athlete drinks a Thermojetics tea before working out, they'll preserve their carbohydrates.

Good grief...🙄

nimbleviper23 said:Just a quick heads-up for all you active competitors out there regarding caffeine intake—listen closely! Now, caffeine isn't technically on the banned substances list, though it does sit on the warning list (and honestly, the real kicker isn't how much you actually consume, but rather what shows up in your urine analysis), so one really ought to exercise reasonable judgment. However—and this is a big "however"—back on September 23, 2003, at the International Olympic Committee congress, a definitive ruling was made that caffeine is absolutely not considered doping. That decision officially kicked in on January 1, 2004. Since then, caffeine can be taken in any amount whatsoever! Again, I must emphasize: quality is everything. You really should be looking for a natural source of caffeine that breaks down gradually and steadily in your bloodstream—nothing like that "lightning bolt" rush you get from a standard cup of coffee.

K-R-I-V-O. There is an exact, strictly defined amount of cAffeine that athletes are permitted to take—anything exceeding that threshold is flagged as doping. Unfortunately, I don't have my official manual right in front of me at this moment, so I can't give you the precise number.

On one of those shows about Opri, they found Escherichia coli in the restroom, and then these Americans in the audience just sat there with their jaws on the floor—like, damn, how did that even get in there?😕
It was freaking hilarious.😂 😂 😂 🙂 🙂 🙂

nimbledriver81 said:W-R-O-N-G. There’s actually a super specific limit on how much kAfeine an athlete can have before it officially counts as doping. I don't have my manuals handy right now, so I can't give you the exact number.

coffee = caffeine? .. :lol 😂 😂

Man, the guy just gave you a perfectly good answer, but I guess you just have to go and screw it up by needing to correct everyone constantly, huh? ... I mean, do you seriously have all that written down in your little notebooks while you're prepping for the Olympics or whatever? .. 😁

The reality is that caffeine used to be flagged as a banned substance, but it isn't anymore (not since back in early 2004) ... maybe check when those books of yours were actually written, because they're probably stuck in the last century. .... 😁

ps: That bit about Guarana is legit, I've tried it myself .. 😎

James Newman4 said:Coffee = caffeine? ... lol 😂 😂

A wise man feels shame for his errors, while a fool simply parades them around—but hey, please, don't let me stop you from continuing with your little antics! Honestly, if you’re looking for the actual name of that compound, just go ask any chemist down at a local lab.
Just because you happen to be rude, uninformed, and frankly, a bit dim doesn't mean everyone else reading this thread is on your level.

Unlike you—who seems to be nothing more than a walking, talking collection of marketing pamphlets—there are people here who actually take nutrition seriously, whether they're elite athletes or just folks trying to stay healthy. People who have read something deeper than your glossy brochures know exactly where to find reliable data. Go ahead—try to debunk me. I dare you. Use actual arguments for once. 😁

So, I guess the World Health Organization suggests sipping on at least one cup of green tea a day, and honestly, it seems like a ton of people are swapping out their usual morning coffee for green tea lately, claiming they actually feel a bit different health-wise.

Basically, —this green tea plant—is part of the Tea family. In medical circles, it’s known as Folia Theae, and it's basically this massive powerhouse of an antioxidant, antiviral, anticancer, antitumor, anti-atherosclerotic, antiseptic, antibacterial, analgesic, detoxifying, digestive, diuretic, galactogenic, and cardiotonic agent.

The really heavy-hitting medicinal stuff in the tea comes from these flavonoid compounds, like catechins, flavonols, and flavones. Science says these things are crazy strong natural antioxidants that fight off cancer and hardening of the arteries. You know how those free radicals floating around in the environment can cause all sorts of chaos, damaging your DNA and cell membranes? That's what leads to all kinds of issues, like MS or autoimmune diseases, I suppose. Apparently, these flavonoid compounds are even more effective against free radicals than Vitamin C or Vitamin E. Studies show that once you drink it, you see this antioxidant activity pop up in your blood, and it's most noticeable after having green tea.
Since it's such a good antioxidant, green tea extract is pretty handy if you're trying to slow down skin aging. People usually take it as a drink, but it also shows up in skincare products like protective creams. Plus, nowadays you can find all these healthy drinks packed with green or black tea extract, and you can even toss these extracts into other foods to make them "health food," if that's even a thing.

It might be worth mentioning too, though I don't know, that drinking green tea can actually help smokers quit.

Nowadays, the whole "preventative health" vibe is catching on with pretty much everyone who's somewhat informed about what's going on in the world. Everyone's asking the same questions: which medicinal plants should we use for prevention, or what kind of supplements—you know, dietary supplements—are actually worth it for people trying to stay healthy naturally.

Most modern Americans just use green tea as a solid stimulant to help them focus at work without losing their minds, while also getting that wide range of healing benefits. The big players in green tea are caffeine and catechins. Those catechins—specifically epigallocatechin, because research shows that catechins, along with polyphenols and bioflavonoids, have the strongest anticancer effects—protect your cells from those nasty free radicals. They act as powerful antioxidants (kind of cytostatic and cytotoxic) and even stop the development of the urokinase enzyme—which is that protein kinase thing that breaks down living cell proteins to let cancer cells move in and feed themselves—basically helping to kill off cancer cells.

Looking at traditional Eastern medicine practices

Western medicine actually leans on that Eastern wisdom quite a bit, recommending green tea for some pretty heavy stuff—like cancer, tumors, painful conditions, various wounds, skin burns, colds, flu, dysentery, different types of poisoning, high cholesterol, managing blood pressure, diabetes, edema, epilepsy, skin rashes, fevers, headaches, bleeding, malaria, food poisoning, amoebic dysentery, and intestinal infections.

What's actually inside it:

Green tea is loaded with good stuff: caffeine and theine (which helps with fatigue and acts as a diuretic), theobromine, theophylline, trehalose, polysaccharides, essential oils, catechins (which help lower cancer risk, shrink tumors, reduce mutations, fight oxygen oxidation, lower cholesterol, and kill bacteria), Vitamin C (for stress and overall strength), the B-vitamin complex, and Vitamin E (for that antioxidant boost).

Matthew Sullivan32 said:It’s honestly wild how much negativity people dump on someone they’ve probably never even met in person, let alone actually talked to. It’s like you had way too much coffee today. 😁

First off: she has turned her entire lifestyle and persona into a product that she pushes through her shows and magazines. As a consumer, I have every right to voice my opinion on a product that's being shoved in my face for an hour twice a day.

Matthew Sullivan32, seriously, how many episodes of Oprah have you actually watched? Have you ever even held one of her magazines? Ever stepped foot on her official website to read anything?

I suggest you try sitting through a single season of her show. If you can actually handle it (or if you already have🙂—then maybe we can talk about her in the "miscellaneous" or "TV" threads), especially since you seem so desperate to defend her from my critiques.

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Betty Hill82 said:First off—she’s basically turned her entire existence and lifestyle into a branded product to hawk on her shows and in her magazine. So, as a consumer, I think I've earned the right to have an opinion on a "product" that's being shoved down my throat twice a day for an hour at a time!

Shoved down your throat? Well, you could always change the channel! Or—heaven forbid—just turn off the TV altogether!

nimbledriver81 said:Namece? Why don't you just change the channel? Or better yet, just turn off the damn TV.

How about you just shut down your computer instead?

Betty Hill82 said:Why don't you just shut down your computer?

And why on earth would I do that? — honestly! — I’m certainly not complaining about what's being posted here. At the end of the day, I'm the one in the driver's seat when it comes to deciding how to spend my precious time.

nimbledriver81 said:Why would I? I’m not complaining about what he posts. I decide for myself how I spend my time.

Well, you know... people share stupid advice, so I might as well join in...

By the way, I’m not complaining—I’m spitting facts. I’m done playing the victim. Now, I’m the aggressor.

Betty Hill82 said:First off: she’s turned her entire persona and lifestyle into a product she markets through her shows and magazine. So, as a consumer, I have every right to voice my opinion on a product being shoved in my face twice a day for an hour at a time.

Dodo, honestly, how many Oprah specials have you actually watched? Have you ever even held one of her magazines? Ever stepped foot on her official website to read anything?

I’d suggest you try sitting through a single season of her show—if you can actually stomach it (or if you already have🙂—then maybe we can have a real conversation about her on the "General Discussion" or "TV" boards. If you're really that invested in defending her from my critiques.

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How is she imposing a product on you? Watching her show is a choice you make yourself. Just change the channel if it irritates you; you're only hurting your own time, not hers.
But hey, if that makes you feel better....

update...I didn't notice that nimbledriver81 already replied 😁 (nimbledriver81, I think we're on the same page)😉