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silentheron25 silentheron25 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#1101 ·
I’m not on a diet and I don't obsess over my nutrition because I honestly don't think it helps people with psoriasis. My take is that if you, say, don't eat meat for two years and then suddenly have a steak, it'll just shock your system and trigger a massive flare-up.
I eat fruit and veggies every day, plus meat and grains—just a standard diet. I smoke, drink occasionally, sometimes have soda, and I consume coffee by the gallon.

You are seriously working against yourself here. Even without this condition, smoking, alcohol, excessive caffeine, and all that soda would wreck your body. It seems like you still put more faith in the medical industry, which clearly isn't—and likely won't—cure psoriasis. If they could, they probably would, but they won't because they’d lose a huge chunk of their market: us, especially those of us who are already destroying ourselves with those toxins. While I was at the beach today, I noticed my largest patch has faded significantly, though it's still very much there. Just to point out, Gregory Mendoza3, what good is any help if someone is stuck in a hospital bed, eating three terrible meals a day and being smeared with various junk? For me, naphthalene didn't do squat. This balm is slowly clearing things up, though I wish it would disappear overnight; it's a slow process. If it takes some time to see results, then so be it. But if we find something that works, are you going to be hypocrites who wait until it helps others before deciding to order it yourselves? There will always be creams and ointments for people like that in every pharmacy. Personally, I'm done wasting money on that nonsense. I don't trust the industry much, so I'd rather try something alternative, even if I still smoke. Hopefully, this balm does the trick. And nothing beats the ocean. 👍
Smoking, drinking coffee, having soda, and then acting surprised by the results makes zero sense. 👎
Sophia Campbell73 Sophia Campbell73 Member
36 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1102 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:I’m not on some strict diet and I don't obsess over my food intake—honestly, I don't think it helps those of us dealing with psoriasis. My theory is that if you, say, stop eating meat for two years and then suddenly have a burger, it’ll just shock your system and send the psoriasis into overdrive.
I eat fruit and veggies every day, meat, grains—basically a standard American diet. I smoke, I drink occasionally😬 and yeah, sometimes I grab a soda, plus I drink enough coffee to fill a swimming pool.

Right now, I'm just taking multivitamins because I happen to have them lying around🙂 along with some evening primrose oil capsules (people swear by them for skin).
For the last few days, I've been mixing a spoonful of vinegar with 2-3 tablespoons of honey and a little water in the morning.
I've heard from several different sources that honey and vinegar are actually good for our condition.

The internet says that if you don't have open sores from the psoriasis, you can toss some vinegar into your bath or mix it with your body lotion. Apparently, the vinegar calms the itching and disinfects the skin without killing off the good Bacteria.

As for oils... man, I swear by them.🙏 🙏
For years now, I've been applying oils to my skin while it's still wet right after showering.
I've tried olive, sesame, St. John's Wort, calendula—you name it, they all work wonders. After I apply the oil to my damp skin, I just pat myself dry with a towel. Even basic store-bought stuff, like Nivea, works great.

I also use that calendula ointment from CVS which costs about $3.00. Since it has petroleum jelly in it, it really nourishes my skin.

Basically, oils have been my lifesaver. Most of us with psoriasis deal with incredibly dry skin, and the oils help flake off the scales, smooth everything out, and tone down the redness.

I've tried using oils too, but never on wet skin like you do. I might give that a shot, but what about clothes? If you grease yourself up like that, won't you just ruin your wardrobe? Do you wait a while before getting dressed? I've got patches on my stomach and back, so I always end up sticking to my shirt.
I use calendula ointment sometimes too, mostly because it’s so greasy. I usually just put it on at night before bed, though honestly, almost everything I apply goes on right before sleep.
Plus, I get breakouts on my face too—around my nose and everywhere else.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1103 ·
silentheron25 said:You’re essentially fighting against yourself. It would be perfectly normal if you weren't constantly fueling the fire with smoking, alcohol, coffee, and all those sodas... You clearly put more faith in the medical industry, which seemingly has no interest in curing psoriasis. If they wanted to, they probably would have by now, but they likely won't because we represent a massive market—especially those of us who are self-destructing with these toxins. While I was at the beach today, I noticed my largest patch has faded significantly, even though it's still quite visible. Just to mention Gregory Mendoza3, what good is any help if he's stuck in a hospital bed, eating nothing but three poor meals a day and being smeared with useless junk? For me, naphthalene didn't do much. This balm is slowly clearing things up, though I wish it would vanish overnight... it's a slow process. If it takes time to see results, then so be it. But if it works for us, will you hypocrites suddenly decide to order it after refusing to trust it yourselves? For people like you, there will always be plenty of creams and ointments in the pharmacies. Personally, I've spent enough money on nonsense. I don't trust the industry much; I'd rather try something alternative, even if I do smoke. Hopefully, this balm is the answer. And long live the ocean... 👍
smoking, drinking coffee, and having soda while expecting different results just doesn't make sense. 👎

That's my life, not yours, dear.🙄

I don't see where in my post I suggested I was poisoning myself with creams, considering I've been using natural products for years, and they're quite affordable.

If you truly believe Gregory Mendoza3 can't be helped while in the hospital, then you're being incredibly ignorant.

It's clear you have no idea what it feels like when 90% of your body is covered in psoriasis.
I know, because mine was covered, and if I hadn't gone to the hospital, I literally would have died.

@Sophia Campbell73—wait a moment before you get dressed. When you apply this to damp skin, you're going to feel very greasy.
Apply a very, very thin layer of Geocortone ointment to your face. That was the only thing that worked for me, and I haven't had a flare-up on my face since. Apply it for a week or two...
Sophia Campbell73 Sophia Campbell73 Member
36 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1104 ·
Thanks and take care,
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1105 ·
Sophia Campbell73 said:Thanks and best regards

🙂 let me know how you're doing...
silentheron25 silentheron25 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#1106 ·
Look, I’m not going to get into a "who has it worse" competition with you. Believe me, I’ve had enough sleep deprivation in my life to know how much it messes with you when you're younger. And honestly, there's no arguing with the facts: alcohol, soda, and dehydration are bad news for any body. Everyone makes their own choices, but I think you're being a bit too skeptical here. Maybe it's because, like most of us, you've probably only experienced temporary relief, and we all know how it feels when those symptoms crawl back. Even if he ends up in the hospital, or if they give him some topical cream for now, it doesn't change the long game. I haven't had a single flare-up in seven years—not even close—while others struggle constantly despite being "Healed." If he actually managed to resolve it, then maybe there's hope for me and everyone else. But without actual hope and belief, you're fighting a losing battle, because otherwise, it feels incurable. With a little hope, though, it isn't. 👍
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1107 ·
silentheron25 said:I don't want to descend to the level of arguing over who has it worse; believe me, I have enough sleep deprivation myself, especially back when I was younger and it bothered me much more. And there’s no arguing with the fact that alcohol, soda, and sun exposure harm everyone's body. Everyone makes their own choices, though I think you're being a bit too skeptical—perhaps because, like many of us, you've only experienced temporary relief. We all know how things feel once it returns. It won't matter if he ends up in the hospital; maybe the creams they use will help him now, but I haven't had a seven-year streak without a single flare-up, whereas Michael Ramos3 has managed that. If it worked for him, maybe it can work for me and the rest of us too. Without hope and faith, you really have nothing, because otherwise, it feels incurable. But with hope, perhaps it isn't...👍

Yes, I am skeptical.
Though I have learned to live with psoriasis, and it doesn't bother me quite as much if one can maintain faith.
🙂
rapidpanther41 rapidpanther41 Member
47 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1108 ·
urbangull says: Take a look at this post.
You’re claiming no other medication offers a permanent fix. So—are you implying this balm actually has that potential, while simultaneously saying we can just use it whenever we feel like it? Where exactly is this "permanent effect" hiding? Can you send over some before and after photos of your dad using the balm? Look, I don't mean to sound harsh, but I have faith in God—what I'm lacking is faith in this balm.

I totally get where you're coming from. I honestly don't know how long they're going to keep insisting this is a cure for psoriasis, but mark my words—the disappointment is only going to pile up for everyone who tries it. And personally? Faith and God have nothing to do with it—at least not in my book.
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1109 ·
rapidpanther41 said:urbangull says: Look at the post.
You claim no other medication has a lasting effect. Are you trying to say this balm actually has that potential, while simultaneously saying we can use it as much as we want? Where is this "lasting effect"? Can you send some photos of your father, before and after using the balm? I don't mean to be rude, but I have faith in God; I also need some faith in this balm.

I completely agree. I don't know how long they'll keep insisting this is a cure for psoriasis, but I know the disappointments will only get worse for those who try it. Faith and God have nothing to do with it—at least not in my belief.

I'm sticking to my guns that this is a permanent cure because I SEE the results almost every single day over the last few years. What am I supposed to do, just sit here with what I have and stay quiet? Well, my conscience won't let me.

And I’d love for you all to explain exactly what you are basing your insistence on when you claim this is NOT a cure for psoriasis. Have you already used it and had it fail, or do you just know someone else who did?

Just say it publicly and clearly: "I THINK Michael Ramos3 is a fraud and is LYING with every word he speaks."

That's your opinion, but state it openly without beating around the bush. Don't try to force other forum members to share your view just to validate your own stance.

Be honest if you're so certain. Say that you will never take the balm from me. NEVER. Even if it gets registered and patented, it’s still my balm—someone else would just be MANUFACTURED it.

Now, here's what I think. I think you aren't actually that convinced (since you have no proof) that the balm does nothing. Instead, you're just waiting for dragon100 to write in three months that his skin is clear again, and then "I," "Gregory Mendoza3," and "Casey Miller9" (God willing) and others will follow suit. Then you'll finally voice your opinion, claiming it's okay now because it's "natural" or "mild," or you'll try it because you've already tried thousands of other things. And even when you've been clear for a year (God willing), you still won't publicly say, "THIS WORKS." You'll just say it helped a little, or blame other factors—that the psoriasis just went away on its own, maybe because you were at the beach, or because you drank filtered water, or used a specific aftershave that probably influenced it.
I'm writing this based on seven years of experience.

And that's a fine enough opinion, provided you present it straight, without the fluff.

Let's wait for more opinions to come in before we talk based on actual experience.

Unless, of course, you already BELIEVE that "dragon100" is lying about nearly being cleared, and that he's just part of my crew working together to steal your last dollar.

Even that would be a fair way to think, and it wouldn't even bother me, BUT JUST SAY IT ONCE AND FOR ALL.

WITH FAITH IN GOD
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1110 ·
Forgive me, Michael Ramos3, but I get the feeling you’re actually angry at US for being skeptical about your balm.

How are we supposed to know you're being sincere when every single post mentions God?

I truly hope you are being honest, but it feels a bit strange to expect us all to believe that you alone hold a miracle cure based solely on your word.
We don't know you, we don't know your father, we have no idea what's actually in the balm, and we don't even know how severe your father's psoriasis was.

All we have is your word that it works, and with all due respect, that isn't nearly enough to convince me of anything...
After all, people lie for their own gain every single hour of every single day, all over this world.
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1111 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:Sorry, ma'am, but I get the feeling YOU'RE angry at US because we're skeptical about your remedy.

How are we supposed to believe you're being honest when you mention God in every single post?

I mean, I deeply hope you are sincere, but it feels a little strange that you expect all of us to just take your word for it—that you have this miracle cure—based solely on what you say.
We don't know you, we don't know your father, we don't know what's actually in the remedy, and we have no idea how bad your father's psoriasis actually was.

All we have is your word that it works, and with all due respect, that isn't enough to convince me that anything actually works.
Because look, people lie for their own gain... every hour, every second, all over the globe.

THANKS for finally being honest and laying your cards on the table.

I'm not angry at all. If I were the type to get angry, I wouldn't be doing this in the first place.
I'm not mad that you're skeptical. Skepticism includes a certain level of positive thinking too. Honestly, your stance pleased me. What I can't wrap my head around is the attitude that it doesn't work 100% without even trying it—forming an opinion based solely on the fact that people lie all over the planet every day, just like you said.
If that's how you feel, then just say so.
People have been lying since the dawn of time, sure, I agree, but even today, we trust each other to some degree. Do you only trust people you know personally?
You were only imprecise in one part: "I deeply hope you are sincere." If you're hoping, does that mean you believe? For me, those two things are pretty much inseparable.

I don't expect you to believe me just because I mention God. If I did, I'd have to stop believing people who don't mention Him, and I don't do that. If you have the right to not mention Him, then I have the right to mention Him. These are personal matters, and I don't think they should be mixed up with anything else.

Did you personally know the manufacturer of every single product you've ever used? Did they suffer from psoriasis too? Did you know them during their illness so you could see how bad their condition actually was?

Millions of people lie every day, yet they drink Coca-Cola without knowing its secret ingredients. When you take tea from someone, how do you know it's exactly what they claim it is? Do you put the tea through independent lab testing first? What about honey? Or that herbal remedy from Bihać? Did everyone know exactly what was in Vipsogal from the start?
This kind of skepticism never ends (just like unrealistic optimism).

Define what it would take to convince you that this works.
My thought? Just try it, and then judge based on your own experience.

Again, I apologize if anyone thought I was angry.

With faith in God
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1112 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:Are you all subjecting this to any kind of independent analysis? What about honey? Or that herbalist from Bihać? Did everyone actually know what was in Vipsogal from the start?
That kind of skepticism is endless (just like unrealistic optimism)...

Just define what it would take to convince you that this works.
In my view, you should just try it and judge based on your own experience...

Once again, I apologize if anyone thought I was being angry.

With faith in God...

I only drink teas when I am 100% certain of the ingredients, usually sourced from trusted close contacts or established manufacturers. It’s the same principle with honey.
I haven't visited the herbalist in Bihać, nor do I plan to; as for Vipsogal, even the box states it contains a corticosteroid... which is quite easy to verify online.
Even though that Dr. Višnjić claimed his cream was safe and non-steroidal—he was lying.

As I said, I wouldn't put anything on my skin if I didn't know exactly what was in it.
If you were to reveal the composition of that balm without specific measurements, no one could replicate it themselves.
So, perhaps you and your father might consider disclosing at least 90% of the formula to the public, naturally omitting the exact proportions...
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1113 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:I only drink teas when I am 100% sure what’s actually in them, usually sourced from trusted people close to me or major reputable brands. It’s the exact same thing with honey.
I haven't bought anything from that herbalist in Bihać and I don't plan to. As for Vipsogal, the label itself says it contains a corticosteroid... which is incredibly easy to verify online if you bother to look.
Even though that Dr. Višnjić claimed his cream was safe and steroid-free—he was lying.

Like I said, I wouldn't put anything on my skin if I didn't know the ingredients.
If you actually reveal the full formula without specific measurements, nobody would be able to replicate it themselves.
So, just think about it—would you or your father really want to give people 90% of a secret formula just for transparency?

Fine, fine. I'll post the ingredients for the balm.
But I'm asking again: how are you going to prove I'm not lying? You can run a chemical analysis and find the synthetic stuff, but there's no way for you to verify exactly which herbs I'm mixing into it.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1114 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:Fine, I will post the balm's ingredients...
But I have to ask again, how will you know if I'm being honest? A chemical analysis can only identify the synthetic components; it won't be able to verify which specific herbs I'm blending into it...

Well, I wouldn't know🙂
I am just curious about the recipe because I know quite a bit about herbalism and how different plants interact...

Furthermore, I'm wondering how your father actually came across this formula? Was it just a lucky find, or did he spend years experimenting with various botanicals?...
silentheron25 silentheron25 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#1115 ·
This whole thing is slowly driving people apart—pitting the skeptics against those of us who actually believe there’s a way out. If you don't buy into this now, then don't bother believing it when it works for me, >, and a few others, because we could all be lying to you for all you know. You can just sit tight and wait for the day some massive pharmaceutical giant finally discovers a total cure, or you can just accept what's working and stop fighting it. Honestly, I’m turning 25 today. That means I’ve been dealing with this crap for nearly 20 years, with a few breaks here and there, and trust me, "just accepting it" isn't an easy option. This is a specific kind of hell that suffocates most people, and if you're someone dealing with this for 15 or 18 years already, it's even worse. I don't care what the exact ingredient list looks like; I just want relief. As for you perpetual skeptics—even if someone actually found a miracle cure tomorrow, I bet you'd still be sitting there with your endless doubts and questions.
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1116 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:I wouldn't know,🙂
I just want to know the ingredients. I know my way around herbs and generally understand how they work.

Also, how did your father come up with the formula for this balm? Did he stumble upon it by accident, or did he spend years testing different herbs?


No comment.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1117 ·
silentheron25 said:This is just leading to more arguments between the skeptics and those of us who actually believe help is possible. If you don't believe me now, then you shouldn't believe anyone—not even when my experience works for me and others... you'll just be waiting for some massive pharmaceutical company to finally find a total cure, or you can just accept this mess and stop trying altogether. I’m turning 25 today, which means I’ve dealt with this nonsense for nearly 20 years, with a few breaks here and there. Believe me, "just accepting it" isn't an option; this is a specific kind of misery that suffocates a person, and it’s even worse for someone who's only been dealing with it for 15 or 18 years. Honestly, I don't care what the ingredients are, as long as it works. And for you eternal skeptics, even if someone actually found a cure, you'd probably still have doubts and questions...

No one is arguing here.

I've accepted my situation, but that doesn't mean I've given up.

You know, people are different; some are stronger than others.

It's not that I don't care about the balm's ingredients, I'm just curious...
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1118 ·
@Michael Ramos3/">@@Michael Ramos3 why the silence?

I am simply curious about how your father reached that particular discovery... I know you have shared details about it here before, but I cannot seem to recall which page it was on...
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1119 ·
silentheron25 said:This is just leading to more arguments between the skeptics and those of us who actually believe there’s a way out. If you don't believe it now, why bother believing anyone when it works for me, dragon100, and others? We could all be lying for all you know. Just wait until some big pharma company finally finds a "miracle cure" for total healing—until then, either accept this or don't even bother trying. I'm turning 25 today, which means I've dealt with this crap for nearly 20 years, with a few breaks here and there. Trust me, this isn't something I just "accept." This is a specific kind of hell that suffocates people, and if you've been dealing with it for 15 or 18 years, it's even worse. I don't care what's inside the bottle; I just care that it works. As for you eternal skeptics, even if someone actually found a cure, you'd probably still have doubts and questions anyway.


I completely agree.
To save everyone some time and unnecessary energy, I'm done arguing or commenting on this thread, unless someone starts making things personal or attacks my integrity (morally speaking, of course).

Regards
urbanbadger53 urbanbadger53 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#1120 ·
Chris Morgan67, I honestly don't get you. If you don't like this balm or simply refuse to believe it works, then just leave the man alone. Nobody is forcing you to buy his product; he showed up, shared his story, and explained what he offers. That's it.
If you think he's lying, fine—that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But attacking him personally is totally uncalled for.
You're just taking out your own anger and frustration on him. If you find it so difficult to accept or believe what he says, then don't even read his posts. People have been talking about this balm for a while now, some have actually tried it and shared positive feedback, which is why I don't think Michael Ramos3 deserves to be mocked and interrogated like this.
Either you believe him or you don't. There is no middle ground.
Best regards,

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