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Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1161 ·
Hey everyone, so like I said, it’s almost cleared up again (those red bumps are gone, just some slight redness left—should be totally gone in 2 or 3 days) so there's no point in doing a biopsy now. Robert Clark2, I'm pretty sure it flared up last time because of that wind blowing in from the coast a few days ago, anyway, check out these photos.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6374/clip3yg9.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6638/clip4us4.jpg
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1162 ·
Robert Clark2 said:Don't run experiments on children.

To me just looks like blatant advertising.

I’m calling on the moderator to step in here—maybe even ban posts like this if necessary.

Health is one of our greatest treasures, and there is so much at stake when you don't actually know how your ointment affects skin conditions.

As you mentioned, you performed your testing on Torlak.

It seems like you're just seeing a golden opportunity to promote yourself right now.

Register your ointment officially so doctors can give their professional opinion,which is what really matters.

If the moderator thinks it's needed, please start a poll regarding this issue.


Yeah, hmm...
you're absolutely right about that.
But then again, you can't stop a father from applying something like Colazyme to his son; nobody questioned that heavy-duty ointment used for kids either.
I would definitely stick to mainstream medicine rather than some random creams with ingredients I've never heard of.
Go ahead and experiment on yourself, but on a child? 😱 Honestly, it makes me feel a bit sick to my stomach.
It feels like we've become way too inclined to use various kitchen remedies.🙄

Michael Ramos3, seriously, tone down the ads and propaganda. Focus more on the illness and how to fight it, and less on making a sale.
Also, don't claim you can heal psoriasis when you don't have any actual proof.😉

Thanks for listening!🙂
Sandra Fox12 Sandra Fox12 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1163 ·
copperviper102 said:Hey Nick! Honestly, you should go back and read every single post by Michael Ramos3 because he talks all about his dad’s ointment, and that’s where you’ll find the full scoop on how it works. As for my own experience, I’m pretty happy with it, but you really ought to dig through my old threads too. If you want to figure out how to actually buy the stuff, just shoot Michael Ramos3 a private message and he’ll get you sorted. It might also be a smart move to lay out your specific situation here on the forum so the veterans can give you some pointers—sorry guys for using that term, but it’s just easier for me to say... people like Robert Clark2, Emergence, Otto (if he shows up), and the rest. Cheers...

Thanks so much!
No problem at all, looks like I've got some serious homework to do if I'm going to read everything from the very beginning. 🙂

I've been dealing with psoriasis for years now, maybe 15 years or so. Since it only flares up on my scalp and behind my ears (thank God for small mercies) and mostly during those times when things are slightly calmer, doctors weren't even sure if it was psoriasis, seborrheic dermatitis... or something else entirely. But, I finally had a biopsy a month ago, and they officially diagnosed it as psoriasis vulgaris.👎
The absolute worst patch is right along my hairline, creeping toward my forehead... it's this nasty red spot covered in scales. That one really gets me down.

Out of everything I've tried—and believe me, I have tried basically everything—nothing works better than steroids. Don't even get me started on the mountain of money I've wasted on all those overpriced medical shampoos, lotions, and creams... it's ridiculous.

I recently got a prescription for some herbal tea, so I'm giving that a shot... drinking it, doing my best... the doctor said I should see results in about 3 to 6 months, so we'll see.

I even tried those mineral baths... they help, but the relief doesn't last very long.

So yeah, that's my story...

I'll see how I progress with the tea... but that ointment is definitely still an option on my list!

Best,
N.
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1164 ·
Casey Miller9 said:Hey everyone! Like I said before, it’s backing off again. Those red bumps are gone—just some lingering redness left, which should clear up in maybe 2 or 3 days. No biopsy needed this time. Nick, it definitely flared up last time when that warm wind was blowing through a few days ago. Check out these photos.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6374/clip3yg9.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6638/clip4us4.jpg

It really has cleared up, and quite a bit too! Honestly, from day one, I suspected this wasn't psoriasis at all, just dermatitis.
From what I know, you should take the kid up to the mountains to get some sun. A change in climate can work wonders for their overall health.
Also, keep an eye on the southern side for any construction sites—cement can be a massive allergen. Then there’s shipyards or waste runoff from boats containing heavy metals. When those warm winds blow, they kick up tiny droplets from the water surface and carry those allergens right into the air.
If you stay super observant about the environment, you can really help out and give the doctors clues about potential allergens. If you can, try keeping a little daily journal of everything relevant. It could be a total game-changer for eliminating the dermatitis.

Best!
Mark Fox44 Mark Fox44 Member
17 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1165 ·
Hey everyone, I see things have picked up quite a bit in the last few hours. I wanted to share a few thoughts regarding the current debate going on here. Personally, I find Michael Ramos3's whole argument about registering his product to be a bit thin. I’m not even sure if there’s a registered small business or an herbalist LLC involved, which wouldn't necessarily require a massive bureaucratic ordeal anyway. If he actually had credible evidence regarding the efficacy of what he's making, he would likely secure support from financial backers and medical circles almost instantly. After all, this "medicine"—and I use that term specifically because of the constant talk about being "healed"—would cause a total revolution in dermatology and pharmacology. It also strikes me as somewhat improbable that one single ointment could work across such a vast spectrum of ailments and effectively treat everything! Most frustratingly, though, is how Michael Ramos3 gets so defensive whenever someone asks a question or expresses a shred of doubt about his salve. As I've mentioned before, if he truly believes in the product's validity, he really ought to have some statistics, photo documentation, and scientifically backed evidence to show for it. Surely his conviction isn't based solely on faith in God; he seems to imply in every post that God will smooth everything over. Now, don't get me wrong—I do believe the ointment has some sort of effect. People are reporting positive reactions, so clearly it does *something*, but he simply cannot claim that it HEALS! I once had a colleague who jumped into various multi-level marketing schemes—think Aloe Vera, Noni, Herbalife, and so on—and every single time, he was absolutely convinced and tried to persuade everyone around him that his current products were the ultimate answer to every problem. To paraphrase a wise sentiment: "It’s awfully hard to doubt the quality of your product when it’s the very thing paying for your food and clothes!" That’s my take on the matter for now.
I'm heading back to the coast tomorrow until the weekend, so I'll be popping back onto the forum then! Bye!
Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1166 ·
Robert Clark2 said:Yeah, it really backed off—like, a lot. Honestly, from day one, I figured this wasn't psoriasis, just dermatitis.
From what I know, you should probably take the kid up to some mountain areas to get some sun; changing the climate could seriously help his whole health situation.
Just check if there aren't any construction sites on the south side, because cement can be a massive allergen. Plus, you gotta watch out for shipyards or waste being dumped from boats—all that heavy metal stuff. When the wind blows from the south, it kicks up tiny water droplets and spreads those allergens everywhere.
By keeping a close eye on the surroundings, you can actually help a ton by pointing doctors toward potential triggers. If you can, maybe start a little daily log to track everything relevant—it could be huge for getting rid of the dermatitis.

Best,

Thanks a ton for the effort, Robert Clark2, seriously, you're a lifesaver. I don't have the slightest clue about experimenting with all these random ointments, and honestly, my son's eczema isn't even that alarming—just on his elbows, a bit on his neck, and a tiny spot on his face that's been there for maybe 2 or 3 months. Maybe there's a small quarry on the south side where the wind hits, I'll check today. There are also tons of olive trees around, and since their pollen is a major allergen, I'll put it all together and head straight to the pediatrician. That idea about keeping a journal is great—when you're stressing out, you lose your mind and forget everything. Thanks again. Anyway, how are things going with you?
That tip from Emergence about applying oil right after showering (I use homemade St. John's Wort oil) is seriously awesome. It calms the skin down and keeps it from getting dry for a long time. That's all from me, cheers.
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1167 ·
jadesailor14 said:yeah true
you're actually right about that
but still, you can't stop a father from rubbing something like petroleum jelly on his kid. it wasn't even an issue back when people used that old-school grease for the same purpose
i'd definitely stick to actual medicine rather than some random creams where nobody knows what's in them
go ahead and experiment on yourself, but on a child? 😱 honestly, it makes me sick
we've become way too obsessed with using kitchen remedies🙄

Michael Ramos3, seriously tone down the ads and the propaganda. write more about the disease and how to fight it, less about selling stuff
besides, don't claim you can heal psoriasis when there's zero proof for it😉

thanks for the input🙂

Look, let's be honest and realistic here.
A forum dedicated to a condition that is "officially" incurable and whose true cause isn't even known has to deal with "unofficial" stuff.
If certain members—who pretend to be experts on everything and act like they "know it all," while the rest of us and the entire planet know
that this leads nowhere but wasting another day, and tomorrow, and so on... just spending 20-30 years trying to maintain a slightly better state with practically no results, it only leads to total disappointment and losing hope.
Why haven't the members who act like they "rule the situation" reacted ALARMINGLY to the mention of ivy?
Is anyone going to tell me ivy isn't toxic?
I'm calling on everyone here to honestly list everything you've tried during your long history with this illness. You'll see it's a mix of everything—normal stuff and completely insane stuff.
Why don't you guys react as strongly to the mention of corticosteroids? Because that's okay since they're registered and patented. Meanwhile, the same planet that lies every single second uses them on themselves and ruins their skin, and they won't even think about their liver until ten years later if they're lucky. I just wonder who those people are lying to. Are they lying to THEMSELVES or to OTHERS?
I can't lie to you if you won't let me, or conversely, I can only lie to you if you want me to.

You're telling me to tone down the ads and the campaign and write more about the disease and WAYS TO FIGHT IT ??????????????????????

I'm the only one writing about it realistically (even if you don't believe me), while everyone else writes about maintenance and keeping journals—especially now that the first two members are almost completely clear after not even a full month of use.
If I were just putting pure hormones in an ointment, I doubt it would work like this. Wouldn't it?

That's why, with a clear conscience, I'm calling for that same survey the respected member mentioned.

And I have one more question for the moderator. Are you also suffering from some serious or, God forbid, officially incurable disease?
I'm asking this "purely" hypothetically because I feel such a sense of arrogance and competence regarding US patients
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1168 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:I actually have one more question for the moderator. Are you personally dealing with any serious or—God forbid—officially incurable illnesses?
I’m asking this purely "hypothetically," because I just sense such incredible empathy and competence when it comes to US patients like us.

Oh honey, you can start clapping your hands and dancing with joy right now because the answer is a big yes!
It's such a resounding yes because, honestly, what I'm facing is much tougher than psoriasis.
I truly believe I've just made your whole life better by sharing this!😁 😁 😁 😁 😁
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1169 ·
The reactions from this supposedly "cured" gentleman are truly bizarre.

A bit of advice—try to cool it with the hostility and stop attacking anyone asking reasonable questions. No one here has had their psoriasis completely cleared up thanks to your ointment, so please, stop spreading misinformation.

And yes, if you had actually put pure hormones in that cream, the psoriasis would have vanished, so you're wrong on that front too.

I suppose you won't dare accuse me of being aggressive, since apparently expressing an opinion is considered a hostile act these days... where is the world heading...🙄
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1170 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:The way this "cured" guy is reacting is just totally unhinged.

Just a bit of advice—maybe dial it back a notch and stop attacking anyone asking reasonable questions. Nobody here actually saw their psoriasis completely vanish thanks to your ointment, so please, let's stick to the facts and avoid spreading misinformation.

Also, if you were just adding pure hormones to that cream, the psoriasis would have cleared up too, so you'd be wrong there as well.

And hey, I guess you won't dare accuse me of being aggressive, because apparently these days, having an actual opinion counts as an attack... honestly, what is the world coming to?🙄

I don't have much else to say, so I'll just restate it:

the way this "cured" guy is reacting is just totally unhinged.

My advice? Calm down a little and stop jumping down the throats of people asking normal questions. No one's psoriasis has entirely disappeared using your salve, so please don't spread false info.

And yeah, if you were putting straight hormones in that mix, the skin would clear up, making you wrong on that front too.

Plus, I suppose you won't try to claim I'm being hostile, since expressing a viewpoint is treated like a declaration of war nowadays... goodness, where is the world heading?

Chris Morgan67 👍
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1171 ·
Look, let me be clear: I’m not claiming I can permanently cure psoriasis. I’ve just had massive success managing and keeping it under control. I don't guarantee anything to anyone, and everything you do is at your own risk—I take zero responsibility. I hold certifications from all the official institutions and top-tier clinics in Papua New Guinea, and I have extensive photo documentation showing famous "before" and "after" cases, along with contact numbers for satisfied customers. Naturally, the ointment is available EXCLUSIVELY via cash on delivery, and if you aren't happy after 10 days, you can return it for a full refund.

Does that make everyone feel better now?
Is this what you're looking for?
You think I didn't know I could write something like this?
Exactly. That right there is how you sell snake oil.
Am I doing marketing now, or does this finally remind you of those trashy tabloids running ads for breast enlargement pills?

Well, sorry, but I don't deal in that stuff.

With faith in God
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1172 ·
jadesailor14 said:Oh honey, you can just clap your little hands and cuties scissors in pure joy because the answer is a big YES.
It's such a resounding yes because everyone agrees this is way more brutal than psoriasis.
I’m sure I’ve just made the rest of your life wonderful.😁 😁 😁 😁 😁


Not at all. Quite the opposite. Honestly, I only wrote that because I was praying for a "No."
I am deeply, sincerely, and personally sorry.
I'm right there in the same boat as you.

Please, excuse me for that one more time.
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1173 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:Not at all! If anything, I actually wrote that hoping the answer would be NO.
I am so incredibly sorry, and I truly feel for you.

😂
just give me the 🤣 🤣 🤣
Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1174 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:Michael Ramos3's reactions are seriously unhinged.

Advice—maybe chill out a bit and stop attacking everyone who asks normal questions. It’s not like anyone here had their psoriasis completely cured by your little ointment, so please, quit spreading fake info.

And yeah. If you actually put pure hormones in the balm, the psoriasis would vanish, so you'd be wrong there too.

And obviously you wouldn't dare accuse me of attacking anyone, because apparently nowadays just having an opinion counts as a hostile act... where is this world even headed...🙄

Don't get worked up, Emergence, it's bad for your skin—and honestly, kudos for using that oil after showering. It really does soothe things and seems to rebuild the skin, even healthy skin. I have some homemade St. Joseph's oil (we have plenty of that out here in the South) and it seems great for the skin. If you don't have any, I've got extra I can send over (and Nebojshi too), totally free of charge. Take care.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1175 ·
Casey Miller9 said:Don't let it get to you, Chris Morgan67; stress isn't good for psoriasis. But honestly, kudos to you for using oil after showering—it really helps soothe things and seems to rejuvenate the skin, even healthy skin. I have some homemade St. John's Wort oil (we have plenty of this around here in the South), and it works wonders. If you don't have any, I have a little extra I can send your way, and Robert Clark2 as well, absolutely no charge. Best regards.

I appreciate the concern.😘
I'm not actually worked up; people just tend to perceive me that way...😬

I'm truly glad the oil is working for you. It was a lifesaver for me and does incredible work regenerating the skin.👍
Thank you so much for the offer, but I have enough on hand for now—mostly homemade, though I pick up some from Whole Foods occasionally.
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1176 ·
Casey Miller9 said:Don't stress out, Chris Morgan67! Stressing is the worst thing for psoriasis. But man, kudos to you for using that oil right after your shower—it really calms things down and feels like it’s rebuilding the skin, even the healthy parts. I actually have some homemade St. John's Wort oil (we have tons of it out here in the South) and it seems amazing for the skin. If you don't have any, I've got extra I can send your way (and Robert Clark2 too), totally free of charge. Best,

Thanks so much for checking in! Things are looking better than ever. Most of the patches are gone, everything is clear except for a tiny bit of redness. Like I mentioned, my go-to routine is using Kantarion oil, Calendula cream, and white petroleum jelly.
I'm heading to the beach in a few days (don't worry, I won't hog the whole place!), but until then, I'll just be soaking up the sun under the shade of an olive tree.

Thanks a million for the offer on the oil! I actually have plenty on hand. I harvested the Kantarion myself—there's enough of it growing within 100 yards of my house. I also have olive trees, so I make my own oil the old-fashioned way. Every year, including this one, I whip up about 10 gallons for my own use, specifically the Kantarion oil.
Cheers
Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1177 ·
Robert Clark2 said:Thanks for asking, things are looking pretty good—most of the redness cleared up, just a tiny bit left. Like I said, I’m just using St. John's Wort oil, some Calendula cream, and white Vaseline.
Heading to the beach in a few days (won't take over the whole place, obviously), but until then, I'm just tanning under the shade of an olive tree.

Big thanks for the tip on the oil. I actually have plenty of my own—I pick the St. John's Wort myself, there's tons of it within 100 yards of my place. I've got olive trees too, so I make my own oil the old-school way. Every year, including this one, I whip up about 10 liters for my own use—specifically the St. John's Wort oil.
Later

Same here. I've got an olive grove with about 250 trees, and underneath them, enough St. John's Wort to blow your mind. I don't use any pesticides or toxic crap, so it's all totally organic. Anyway, how do you make your oil? I usually grab a jar of flowers with a little leaf mixed in, pour in some olive oil, and let it sit in the sun for maybe 45 days before straining it into a dark glass bottle. Am I doing it wrong? Someone told me once that keeping it in the sun isn't good, but I don't buy that. That's how my grandma taught me.
Casey Miller9 Casey Miller9 Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1178 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:thanks for looking out😘
i'm not even stressed—it just seems like people get that impression for some reason😬

really happy about the oil situation though. honestly, it saved my skin and actually helps it heal👍
thanks a ton for the offer on the oil, but I've got plenty of my own stuff right now—sometimes I just grab some from Whole Foods instead.

No worries, anytime🙂
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1179 ·
Casey Miller9 said:I have an olive grove with about 250 trees.

Whoa! 🙂
That sounds lovely!

Man, I am so jealous of everyone living on the coast!

I don't know much about oils, but it just seems logical to keep them out of the sun. Heat and light usually break down all those healthy nutrients, right?
Kate Collins82 Kate Collins82 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1180 ·
Robert Clark2 said:Don't run experiments on children.

In my opinion, this is nothing more than blatant advertising.

I’m calling on the moderator to step in, and if necessary, ban posts like this entirely.

Health is one of our greatest assets, and there is a lot to lose when you have no idea how your ointment actually affects bone conditions.

So, you claim you performed your testing at Torlak.

Now, in this instance, you see a perfect opportunity to hawk your product.

Register your ointment so actual doctors can weigh in,which would be much, much better.

If the moderator thinks it's warranted, they should start a poll regarding this issue.

Good day!
I’ve had enough of this, so I’m jumping in.
I've been following Izlecen from the very beginning.
It's been obvious for a long time now that OKTO, DRAGON 100, Ja!, Izlecen, and maybe a few other names,
ARE ALL THE SAME PERSON!!!
I'll let you all draw your own conclusions.
I'll stay quiet, because everyone uses whatever tools they want, and I don't lose sleep over fools.
"I cannot forgive children!"
I've been on this forum under a different name for ages...
If you need more info, feel free to ask, but I think I've said enough.

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