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goldendrifter19 goldendrifter19 Member
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#101 ·
Michelle Long6;49264214 said:Clearly, you haven't seen the excellent Black Swan.

I have. I've seen Garden State—and that absolute disaster of a Star Wars movie too. Plus Leon, Goya's Ghosts, The Other Boleyn Girl, Everyone Says I Love You, Cold Mountain... the list goes on. I've watched plenty of her work; I don't base my entire opinion on just one single film.

In my eyes, she had her best role in Leon. As for Black Swan and Closer, they're fine, I guess. I've already made it clear that she isn't a total catastrophe—she has some decent roles—but she’s mediocre when you consider all the hype people throw her way. I just don't see this "versatile genius" everyone talks about... I see a pretty average actress who occasionally manages to stand out—usually playing some fragile woman, even when she's supposed to be portraying a strong character.
Michelle Long6 Michelle Long6 Member
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#102 ·
I mentioned Black Swan as an example where things aren't actually bad, quite the opposite. And as for Star Wars, I guess I'm way too subjective to talk down on anyone else... except maybe Jar Jar Binks. 😬
Michael Jackson10 Michael Jackson10 Active Member
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#103 ·
I don’t really have any set criteria when it comes to judging actresses (for totally irrational reasons, right? 🙂), but I’ve always had a soft spot for Natalie Portman. Maybe it’s because she basically grew up on screen, starting with Leon... though honestly, she’s losing some charm for me lately. Maybe it’s just her look—she can come off a bit smug sometimes. Not that you can deny she tries to make up for it with sheer effort in her better roles. But hey, you either have charisma or you don't. She’s got that "child actor curse," where she just grew up being a little actress.

Now, I look at certain guys and I’m genuinely torn. Take Jack Nicholson or Robert De Niro; hardly anyone would call them bad, but I just can't stand their recent garbage. It’s like they went crazy and are trying to regress back to their prime: Jack is constantly twitching like he’s still in The Shining, and De Niro is stuck playing some disturbed Taxi Driver type. It seems like the moment an actor hits their peak, the rest of their career is just a struggle to recapture that magic.

Look at Clint Eastwood. The guy used to hang out on the fringes of B-movies, acting like this dry, cynical old codfish. He found his niche in that corner, carved it out his own way, redefined the rules, and left a massive mark...
Most everyone else does the opposite. They go on a downward spiral, or they just happen to land a role that was tailor-made for them.
- George Clooney is such a striking face, right up until O Brother, Where Art Thou?. Baaaaaam, that was it. That suave, playful, carefree vibe... now, all I see is that one character and nothing else. End of story.

- Ben Affleck and Keira Knightley: they both have these waxwork faces. Zero expression, zero spontaneity. It’s just: "Okay, script says laugh now: ha-ha, script says cry now: boo-hoo."
- Nicolas Cage—I swear, the man is Hollywood's biggest "blue-collar worker." He’s like their version of a hard-working laborer who overworks every single role. With that intense facial expression, he just lacks the effortless charisma or authority to pull a role off purely on talent. We should start rating actors like figure skaters: technical execution: 5, artistic impression: 2.
- Orlando Bloom, the wannabe medieval knight. Rugged, sure, but a total heartthrob hero, while the girl next to him is like: "Ugh, where is my hair regenerator?"

Does Drew Barrymore even fit here? I can't wrap my head around her; she feels so fake that I don't think I could even handle meeting her in real life...

On the flip side, Charlize Theron has moved from being just "movie eye candy" to someone I’ll unthinkingly believe in. She’s the perfect example of why a neutral look is actually a superpower; it provides the perfect canvas for insane transformations. A little bit of talent and character goes a long way when you have that kind of foundation.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#104 ·
Michelle Long6 said:I mentioned Black Swan as an example where things aren't actually bad, quite the opposite. And as for Star Wars, I guess I'm way too subjective to talk down on anyone else... except maybe Jar Jar Binks. 😬

Her role in Star Wars isn't any worse than the rest of them.
It's like any other movie, man, but I definitely remember her being absolutely killer in other roles.
darkranger52 darkranger52 Newcomer
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#105 ·
Jennifer Aniston was never actually part of the A-list actress crowd... 😳
Richard Brown7 Richard Brown7 Member
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joined Jun 2010
#106 ·
Nobody seems to be bringing up Halle Berry and Kate Winslet, despite both being Oscar winners.

I’m not even going to touch my thoughts on Halle, but Kate Winslet actually left me feeling pretty disappointed after watching the Mildred Pierce series she won so many awards for. Her performance was just lackluster.
cosmicbear0 cosmicbear0 Newcomer
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#107 ·
npr. Ashton Kutcher and Jennifer Lopez 🙂
bluemaker24 bluemaker24 Newcomer
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#108 ·
Right now, the names jumping to mind are Ben Stiller, Jim Carrey, Ashton Kutcher, and Steven Seagal, though I can't think of a single woman off the top of my head.
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active Member
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#109 ·
My personal Top 5 worst actors/actresses:

1. Angelina Jolie
2. Angelina Jolie
3. Angelina Jolie
4. Angelina Jolie
5. Angelina Jolie
darkranger52 darkranger52 Newcomer
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#110 ·
cosmicbear0 said:npr. Ashton Kutcher and Jennifer Lopez 🙂

👍👍👍
Angela Gray12 Angela Gray12 Member
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joined Jan 2013
#111 ·
Honestly, it’s way easier to list the actors who actually deliver than the ones who don't, but fine—I'll give you my take on the ones who just feel the exact same in every single role, whatever...
Johnny Depp - The guy is just exhausting to watch. I've genuinely tried to sit through one of his movies all the way to the end, but I just can't make it happen.
Nicolas Cage - The dude simply doesn't know how to act. His whole "style" is basically just overacting, which most people just laugh at anyway.
Brad Pitt - Maybe he'll stumble into a decent performance once in a while, but as far as I'm concerned, he's just not a great actor.
Orlando Bloom - I can't tell if it's his acting or just that accent that irritates me more.
Shia LaBeouf and his co-star from Transformers - Just bottom-of-the-barrel talent there. Total flops.
Natalie Portman - She's basically coasting on past glory at this point. Everyone was obsessed with her in Black Swan, she grabs an Oscar, and then she shows up in Thor looking like she's constantly struggling to remember her own lines!!!

Man, there are so many... like I said, it's much simpler to just name the ones who are actually good, the ones who can actually leave you breathless with their talent.
mistyowl11 mistyowl11 Member
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#112 ·
bluemaker24 said:Right now, the names jumping to mind are Ben Stiller, Jim Carrey, Ashton Kutcher, and Steven Seagal, though I can't think of a single woman off the top of my head.

No way Carrey belongs on this list.
I get why people hate his style, but he actually nails those serious roles...
bluemaker24 bluemaker24 Newcomer
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#113 ·
mistyowl11 said:No way Carrey belongs on this list.
I get why people hate his style, but he actually nails those serious roles...

Well, I haven't actually sat down to watch his serious stuff, just the comedies, so I guess I can't really weigh in on that...😉
Eric Patel7 Eric Patel7 Member
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joined Sep 2013
#114 ·
Julia Roberts

It’s honestly hard to wrap my head around how irritatingly bad this woman is. She’s an absolute mediocrity—actually, maybe even worse than that.

Yet somehow, over the last decade, everyone just decided to elevate her to the heavens—not to mention she was one of the highest-paid actresses out there for a while. I mean, seriously, why? Why does that even happen?
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active Member
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#115 ·
Eric Patel7 said:Julia Roberts

It’s honestly hard to wrap my head around how irritatingly bad this woman is. She’s an absolute mediocrity—actually, maybe even worse than that.

Yet somehow, over the last decade, everyone just decided to elevate her to the heavens—not to mention she was one of the highest-paid actresses out there for a while. I mean, seriously, why? Why does that even happen?

I couldn't wrap my mind around it back then, and honestly, I still can't. Every time I look back at that era, I get this bitter taste in my mouth—it's practically nauseating, if you catch my drift. It was just a total farce.
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active Member
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#116 ·
Michael Jackson10 said:I don’t really have any set criteria when it comes to judging actresses (for totally irrational reasons, right? 🙂), but I’ve always had a soft spot for Natalie Portman. Maybe it’s because she basically grew up on screen, starting with Leon... though honestly, she’s losing some charm for me lately. Maybe it’s just her look—she can come off a bit smug sometimes. Not that you can deny she tries to make up for it with sheer effort in her better roles. But hey, you either have charisma or you don't. She’s got that "child actor curse," where she just grew up being a little actress.

Now, I look at certain guys and I’m genuinely torn. Take Jack Nicholson or Robert De Niro; hardly anyone would call them bad, but I just can't stand their recent garbage. It’s like they went crazy and are trying to regress back to their prime: Jack is constantly twitching like he’s still in The Shining, and De Niro is stuck playing some disturbed Taxi Driver type. It seems like the moment an actor hits their peak, the rest of their career is just a struggle to recapture that magic.

Look at Clint Eastwood. The guy used to hang out on the fringes of B-movies, acting like this dry, cynical old codfish. He found his niche in that corner, carved it out his own way, redefined the rules, and left a massive mark...
Most everyone else does the opposite. They go on a downward spiral, or they just happen to land a role that was tailor-made for them.
- George Clooney is such a striking face, right up until O Brother, Where Art Thou?. Baaaaaam, that was it. That suave, playful, carefree vibe... now, all I see is that one character and nothing else. End of story.

- Ben Affleck and Keira Knightley: they both have these waxwork faces. Zero expression, zero spontaneity. It’s just: "Okay, script says laugh now: ha-ha, script says cry now: boo-hoo."
- Nicolas Cage—I swear, the man is Hollywood's biggest "blue-collar worker." He’s like their version of a hard-working laborer who overworks every single role. With that intense facial expression, he just lacks the effortless charisma or authority to pull a role off purely on talent. We should start rating actors like figure skaters: technical execution: 5, artistic impression: 2.
- Orlando Bloom, the wannabe medieval knight. Rugged, sure, but a total heartthrob hero, while the girl next to him is like: "Ugh, where is my hair regenerator?"

Does Drew Barrymore even fit here? I can't wrap my head around her; she feels so fake that I don't think I could even handle meeting her in real life...

On the flip side, Charlize Theron has moved from being just "movie eye candy" to someone I’ll unthinkingly believe in. She’s the perfect example of why a neutral look is actually a superpower; it provides the perfect canvas for insane transformations. A little bit of talent and character goes a long way when you have that kind of foundation.

Back in the day, Ben Affleck actually auditioned for that old Beverly Hills show from the 90s—only to get rejected because they thought he was too ugly 🤣🤣

Then, just a few years later, he turns into some sort of ladies' man. Honestly, it’s wild what Hollywood does to people ☕
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#117 ·
Let’s talk about how many times we end up mentioning Nicolas Cage, an actor who seems to possess exactly one facial expression: the "sad puppy" look.

Then there’s Keanu Reeves, who also appears to operate with a single setting: a total blank slate. Don't get me wrong, he was perfectly fine in The Matrix, but that’s really where his range ends for me.

As for Gwyneth Paltrow—I just can't bring myself to like her. She comes across as incredibly precious and whiny in every single role. And don't even get me started on that Academy Award ceremony where she spent half an hour sobbing (alongside her colleague Halle Berry)... honestly, it was so awkward I actually had to change the channel to escape the secondhand embarrassment.🙈

I find Keira Knightley completely unappealing too, but I won't go into detail there; I know I’m being biased.

*To be fair, Halle Berry is actually a decent actress.
goldendrifter19 goldendrifter19 Member
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#118 ·
slywolf45 said:Let’s talk about how many times we end up mentioning Nicolas Cage, an actor who seems to possess exactly one facial expression: the "sad puppy" look.

Then there’s Keanu Reeves, who also appears to operate with a single setting: a total blank slate. Don't get me wrong, he was perfectly fine in The Matrix, but that’s really where his range ends for me.

As for Gwyneth Paltrow—I just can't bring myself to like her. She comes across as incredibly precious and whiny in every single role. And don't even get me started on that Academy Award ceremony where she spent half an hour sobbing (alongside her colleague Halle Berry)... honestly, it was so awkward I actually had to change the channel to escape the secondhand embarrassment.🙈

I find Keira Knightley completely unappealing too, but I won't go into detail there; I know I’m being biased.

*To be fair, Halle Berry is actually a decent actress.

How on earth she snagged an Academy Award over someone like Cate Blanchett is still a mystery to me. For a year or two, everyone treated her like she was some kind of legend, but she’s really not all that—and frankly, I have no clue what she does now, besides running some wellness blog and filming yet another sequel to Iron Man.

Someone else mentioned Depp above. I actually used to like him—some of his nineties stuff still holds up—but the man has turned into a total caricature of himself. Sometimes I think Jack Sparrow was the worst thing to ever happen to his career. It's like he forgot you can actually act without being a cartoonish mess, overacting, or working with Tim Burton.
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#119 ·
goldendrifter19 said:How on earth she snagged an Academy Award over someone like Cate Blanchett is still a mystery to me. For a year or two, everyone treated her like she was some kind of legend, but she’s really not all that—and frankly, I have no clue what she does now, besides running some wellness blog and filming yet another sequel to Iron Man.

Someone else mentioned Depp above. I actually used to like him—some of his nineties stuff still holds up—but the man has turned into a total caricature of himself. Sometimes I think Jack Sparrow was the worst thing to ever happen to his career. It's like he forgot you can actually act without being a cartoonish mess, overacting, or working with Tim Burton.

I’m with you—that Academy Award win felt pretty arbitrary to me too, though at this point, the whole thing isn't exactly a reliable barometer for actual quality.
She’s just... I don't know, a total non-entity.🤷
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#120 ·
bluemaker24 said:Right now, the names jumping to mind are Ben Stiller, Jim Carrey, Ashton Kutcher, and Steven Seagal, though I can't think of a single woman off the top of my head.

Look, Seagal was never even B-list.
He's fine if you just want some mindless action, but nobody ever claimed he was actually a great actor. 🤷

But comparing Carrey to guys like Stiller or Kutcher is a massive reach. It's like comparing Lionel Messi to some random guy playing pickup ball at the local park. 😉

PS
Offtopic
Even if you don't follow sports, you know who Messi is, and in about thirty seconds, you'll pretty much get the gist of who this local legend is. 😉

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